View Full Version : Marquez could be next for Khan
Mandanda
01-20-2010, 05:28 PM
Roach is saying there's no agreement with Maidana and Golden Boy have postponed purse bids for two weeks. The Marquez fight is on the table. I would put the article up but not getting banned again :lol:
Serious display of balls from Khan if he takes the fight!! I wonder who Losfer would support? :hey:think
Losfer_Words
01-20-2010, 05:35 PM
Serious display of balls from Khan if he takes the fight!! I wonder who Losfer would support? :hey:think
JMM all day every day:deal:lol:.
If Khan did take the fight and win then I'd give him his props, though, as it would be a world-class name for the record. Thing is, at 140, I would think that the fight would favour Khan anyway. If Khan could keep the fight at range using his far longer reach and also opted to throw his fast combos whilst darting in and out, I don't see what his awesomeness, Mr JMM, could do about it:?:-(.
Stay at 135 PLEEEEEASE, JMM!!!
Mandanda
01-20-2010, 05:37 PM
Roach is saying he said yes to Marquez and no to Maidana because he feels the Maidana fight needs time to be hyped up and the money won't be enough for the risk so he's told Amir to not fight him.
Losfer_Words
01-20-2010, 05:38 PM
Roach is saying he said yes to Marquez and no to Maidana because he feels the Maidana fight needs time to be hyped up and the money won't be enough for the risk so he's told Amir to not fight him.
Thing is, mate, Roach likes to think he is a promoter and manager when he isn't. What he 'wants' doesn't mean shit in the grand scheme of things.
Mandanda
01-20-2010, 05:45 PM
Thing is, mate, Roach likes to think he is a promoter and manager when he isn't. What he 'wants' doesn't mean shit in the grand scheme of things.
Nah very true. Just letting people know what's being said that's all. Roach to involved for my liking.
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Worth reading this article from Dan Rafael who's very reliable with his sources. Schaefer also talks about building the Maidana fight but the alternative opponents mentioned are Nate and Diaz, not JMM.
Losfer_Words
01-20-2010, 05:50 PM
Nah very true. Just letting people know what's being said that's all. Roach to involved for my liking.
Agreed:good. Roach needs to stick to the pads and what he's good at rather than act like he's a negotiator or something. TBH, I think JMM-Khan is a crap fight considering the other fights that both could make at this point in time. The only thing that would interest me in this fight is if Khan were to fight JMM at 135, but I also think that it wouldn't happen.
Really hope this doesn't happen.
Mandanda
01-20-2010, 05:50 PM
Thing is for me i don't see Maidana as type to have a long reign. He's a banger but how long do they wanna hype this fight for...it has to be soon imo because i don't see Maidana being a long reigning champion.
JIM KELLY
01-20-2010, 06:01 PM
Ok, so the maidana thing was just speculation.
I think they will get marquez..
Losfer_Words
01-20-2010, 06:03 PM
Thing is for me i don't see Maidana as type to have a long reign. He's a banger but how long do they wanna hype this fight for...it has to be soon imo because i don't see Maidana being a long reigning champion.
I'm worried about the use of the word 'hype' at the moment as it seems to translate as 'until Maidana loses' / 'let's see how long we can put the fight off for'. When Maidana faces a boxer who won't fight his fight, he'll lose, IMO. I would be very disappointed if the fight isn't made between Khan and Maidana next as it's a perfect fight for introduction to the States on a big undercard, and would also make for an intriguing fight which could give Khan a chance to dispell the Prescott demons. I really hope Khan does take the fight and the last day's worth of quotes aren't too much to worry about. Other than Schaefer's comments today, the fight is being reported as on everywhere else:think.
izmat
01-20-2010, 06:05 PM
If Maidana doesn't agree to sidestep...it will go to the pursebids?
Mandanda
01-20-2010, 06:08 PM
I agree Losfer. Maidana won against Ortiz but Ortiz could of boxed his ears off if he used his brain. I like Maidana and wanna see the fight but i sense what you said...put the fight off till he loses...not to keen on that sorta thing.
Darni187
01-20-2010, 07:19 PM
The thing is if Maidana does not back down, Khan will fight him because he dont want to give up his belt. But a name like JMM could tempt Khan into dropping the belt to fight a much bigger name like JMM where the Mexicans will go mad in the U.S and Mexico.
I still think Khan Maidana will happen, GBP are just giving options for bigger money fights.
BIG WORM
01-20-2010, 07:35 PM
I think it would be the perfect fight for Khan, It would be a test of course, but it'd be a much more sensible fight than fighting Maidana !!
It would be a good warm up and confidence builder before he fought Maidana !!
A fighter that puts on pressure, but not too much of it !!
And Khan has got all the skills and power to get the job done in style !!
Maidanas too much of an animal for Khan to be dealing with, as much of a big puncher and class act JMM is, he is a very technical thinking type fighter that is pretty easy to predict & time - if you got a style like Khan where you can box and move !!
Primadonna Kool
01-20-2010, 08:01 PM
JMM :lol: LOL....
people need to shut up about this man, hes not a threat at 140 or above...!
pathmanc1986
01-20-2010, 08:26 PM
thinking of what maidana could do if khan does something else
urango anyone? war?
LP_1985
01-20-2010, 08:30 PM
i think marquez is alot more dangeous than maidana. JMM wud after a few rounds start timing khan comin in and catch him with an uppercut and game over. madaina wont get close to khan. he'll box him at range for the first 8 then look to take him out IMO
Primadonna Kool
01-20-2010, 08:33 PM
i think marquez is alot more dangeous than maidana. JMM wud after a few rounds start timing khan comin in and catch him with an uppercut and game over. madaina wont get close to khan. he'll box him at range for the first 8 then look to take him out IMO
People said shit like this leading up to Mayweather vs JMM..
Fact is, JMM cannot handle speed...JMM cannot handle a fighter who can applie speed with slickness.
And dont bring up Manny Pac......Pacman throws punches and half the time he dosent have a clue where there going...!
Amir Khan will beat down JMM badly and end his career...
Mayweather didnt even get out of first gear against him..!
LP_1985
01-20-2010, 08:43 PM
People said shit like this leading up to Mayweather vs JMM..
Fact is, JMM cannot handle speed...JMM cannot handle a fighter who can applie speed with slickness.
And dont bring up Manny Pac......Pacman throws punches and half the time he dosent have a clue where there going...!
Amir Khan will beat down JMM badly and end his career...
Mayweather didnt even get out of first gear against him..!
ok i agree floyd barely got out of first gear. does he fight like khan. IMO khan will get timed coming in and get caught. goodnight. JMM might be getting old but he still aint no mug
Primadonna Kool
01-20-2010, 08:51 PM
ok i agree floyd barely got out of first gear. does he fight like khan. IMO khan will get timed coming in and get caught. goodnight. JMM might be getting old but he still aint no mug
Barrera was meant to of timed Amir Khan.............It did not happen..!
Akxtinguish
01-21-2010, 02:18 AM
JMM is being seriously underrated since his loss to PBF.
kerrminator
01-21-2010, 04:32 AM
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Worth reading this article from Dan Rafael who's very reliable with his sources. Schaefer also talks about building the Maidana fight but the alternative opponents mentioned are Nate and Diaz, not JMM.
It would be a shame if Diaz sticks around and starts losing to guys like Khan. Juan is a fantastic fighter and a great warrior to boot but he is just far too small for 140lbs. He would probably make super feather no probs.
modestbiggles
01-21-2010, 06:02 AM
Do you get the impression that they are delaying the Maidana fight in the hope that he loses in the mean time, and the fight therefore doesn't have to happen?
Mazallan
01-21-2010, 06:07 AM
This is the fight I want to see. JMM is still a great great fighter and although not big enough for light welter he can still probably beat any of the current champions. Khan is a real warrior for even mentioning this fight. Hopefully he takes it instead of hypoe jobs like Maidana or the non punching Malinfaggi.
Khan should win UD but it could be a classic.
Wonder how hard it will be to make though. I would like to see him finish off Hatton first and I guess Malinfaggi and Maidana are not too bad time filler for fights for someone with Khans godly ability.
abzmanc
01-21-2010, 07:34 AM
This is the fight I want to see. JMM is still a great great fighter and although not big enough for light welter he can still probably beat any of the current champions. Khan is a real warrior for even mentioning this fight. Hopefully he takes it instead of hypoe jobs like Maidana or the non punching Malinfaggi.
Khan should win UD but it could be a classic.
Wonder how hard it will be to make though. I would like to see him finish off Hatton first and I guess Malinfaggi and Maidana are not too bad time filler for fights for someone with Khans godly ability.
You seriously crack me up :rofl
Mazallan
01-21-2010, 07:41 AM
You seriously crack me up :rofl
Hopefully you will still be laughing when Khan has finished beating up every champion and contender at 140 and any body with the bottle to step up from 135. Only Mayweather and Pac can beat him at 140. In a few years time Britain will be able to claim the p4p number 1 champion and British fans will shadow in the glory of our greatest ever boxer. We have a young amazing fighter capable of achieving more than any other fighter we have ever had...Khan will not sit around beating nobodies for a worthless WBO belt for 10 years like Calzaghe and he will not spend his time with a WBU belt and only beating ordinary fighters like Hatton. Khan will be a genuine multi weight champion.
Gaz S
01-21-2010, 08:39 AM
I think Khan's team should seriously consider taking the Maidana fight now. Although not a huge name, he's still got enough to hype the fight right to make it a worthwhile and dangerous opponent for Khan.
It will gain him some credibility in the States (and make him a virtual god in the UK media, because no doubt they'll make Maidana out to be some beast with the power of Tyson, Jackson, McClellan all rolled into one...), as well as getting the mandatory out of the way.
Maidana is very, very beatable in my opinion and not anywhere near as good as some hype him up to be. Yes, he has a killer punch which is a huge danger to someone like Khan, but I think Khan will be able to easily outbox him, maybe even stop him.
And if Khan-Maidana is put on the backburner for now, I think there's a good chance Maidana will get beat in the interim.
Take the fight now, and get the victory over such a perceived danger man, and it will do loads for Khan's credibility and status when negotiating further, bigger fights.
Of course, it's still a big risk because we all know exactly what Maidana would do to Khan if he lands one of his bombs, but I think it's a gamble worth taking as I believe Khan's speed/skill will be the stronger element in this fight.
abzmanc
01-21-2010, 09:00 AM
Hopefully you will still be laughing when Khan has finished beating up every champion and contender at 140 and any body with the bottle to step up from 135. Only Mayweather and Pac can beat him at 140. In a few years time Britain will be able to claim the p4p number 1 champion and British fans will shadow in the glory of our greatest ever boxer. We have a young amazing fighter capable of achieving more than any other fighter we have ever had...Khan will not sit around beating nobodies for a worthless WBO belt for 10 years like Calzaghe and he will not spend his time with a WBU belt and only beating ordinary fighters like Hatton. Khan will be a genuine multi weight champion.
Dont worry mate I'm a Khan fan ;)
ryanm8655
01-21-2010, 09:11 AM
What is this JMM is crap at 140 anf above crap...he was shit against floyd, who stylisticly was a bad match and was also the best fighter in the world, plus he weighed in at 144...
He has never fought at 140...
I'd like to see Marquez-Hatton at 140 personally. A big fight with two big names plus lets see how good Marquez is at 140.
Mazallan
01-21-2010, 09:15 AM
What is this JMM is crap at 140 anf above crap...he was shit against floyd, who stylisticly was a bad match and was also the best fighter in the world, plus he weighed in at 144...
He has never fought at 140...
I'd like to see Marquez-Hatton at 140 personally. A big fight with two big names plus lets see how good Marquez is at 140.
JMM would destroy Hatton. JMM vs Khan is a great fight though and the win will really put Khans name on the map.
Darni187
01-21-2010, 09:41 AM
Hopefully you will still be laughing when Khan has finished beating up every champion and contender at 140 and any body with the bottle to step up from 135. Only Mayweather and Pac can beat him at 140. In a few years time Britain will be able to claim the p4p number 1 champion and British fans will shadow in the glory of our greatest ever boxer. We have a young amazing fighter capable of achieving more than any other fighter we have ever had...Khan will not sit around beating nobodies for a worthless WBO belt for 10 years like Calzaghe and he will not spend his time with a WBU belt and only beating ordinary fighters like Hatton. Khan will be a genuine multi weight champion.
The stage is set, i also have the faith. Khan needs to first take care of the 140 division this year by beating Bradley by the end of the year, then bring em on anyone.
Mazallan
01-21-2010, 09:54 AM
The stage is set, i also have the faith. Khan needs to first take care of the 140 division this year by beating Bradley by the end of the year, then bring em on anyone.
I think Khan will probably only fight 3 times this and for me I would have a tune up in America vs either Paulie or Maidana. Someone to look good against for the Americans like those two. Then Hatton in a huge fight in Britain and then JMM although I would love to see that fight first but think it will come later. Whoever else proves themself capable of getting in a ring with by the end of the year/start of 2011 will need to be top class, hopefully that means Khan vs Bradley.
SouthpawSlayer
01-21-2010, 10:49 AM
khans speed is gonna cause jmm a lot of problems
Davro
01-21-2010, 10:55 AM
Thing is, mate, Roach likes to think he is a promoter and manager when he isn't. What he 'wants' doesn't mean shit in the grand scheme of things.
You say that but he is very wise, he cares about his fighters and not dominated by the pursuit of money.
I'm sure Khan appreciates his insight, instead of corporate leeches trying to flog him for the biggest buck. Just ask Mike Tyson about that.
Khan did well to come back from one mismatch. If Maidana KOs him in 1, that's millions poured down the drain. Maybe Roach doesn't think it's such a good idea putting a glass jawed fighter in with a KO demon for half the purse of another title fight - especially when it has the potential to be much bigger in a few years time.
so calm down, he knows what's best for his fighters.
Losfer_Words
01-21-2010, 05:19 PM
You say that but he is very wise, he cares about his fighters and not dominated by the pursuit of money.
I'm sure Khan appreciates his insight, instead of corporate leeches trying to flog him for the biggest buck. Just ask Mike Tyson about that.
Khan did well to come back from one mismatch. If Maidana KOs him in 1, that's millions poured down the drain. Maybe Roach doesn't think it's such a good idea putting a glass jawed fighter in with a KO demon for half the purse of another title fight - especially when it has the potential to be much bigger in a few years time.
so calm down, he knows what's best for his fighters.
Chillax, dude. I love Roach and I'm no hater. I just think that people should put his comments into perspective given that he isn't actually involved in negotiations:good. His feedback is probably always welcomed with open arms amongst his fighters, but in reality he can do little about what promoters and managers choose to do.
From Dan Rafael's notebook today:
Schaefer said he's talking to HBO about junior welterweight titlist Amir Khan's American debut taking place April 10. "Amir will have his own date and one fight HBO is very interested in is Juan Manuel Marquez," Schaefer told ESPN.com. "Amir facing Marquez live on HBO, now that's a big fight isn't it," he said. Other bouts being discussed for Khan, include Paulie Malignaggi and Juan Diaz. But Golden Boy also needs to sort out the situation with Khan's mandatory against Marcos Maidana during a two-week window it has received from the WBA. Schaefer, who co-promotes Maidana, said his manager is coming to Los Angeles to meet with about the situation.
Whether he fights Khan or not, lightweight champ Marquez is moving off May 1 because Shane Mosley-Floyd Mayweather is in the works for that date, Schaefer said. "We're not there yet with Mosley-Mayweather, but if that fight happens I think the most likely date is May 1 [on HBO PPV] and Marquez would be May 8 live on HBO," he said. Possible opponents include Michael Katsidis and Juan Diaz [in a rematch of 2009's fight of the year], or the possibility of a Khan fight in April or May. "A lot depends on venue availability and fighter preferences," Schaefer said. "We also have to see what kind of monies are available."
Whatever headliners Golden Boy promotes on HBO in April and May, Schaefer also has undercard bouts to finalize and he's discussed various matches with the network. If Katsidis doesn't fight Marquez in a main event, one match could be interim lightweight titlist Katsidis, one of Marquez's mandatories, facing junior lightweight titleholder Robert Guerrero, who would move up in weight. "We'd like to put that fight together for one of our undercards," Schaefer said. Guerrero manager Shelly Finkel also told ESPN.com that it's a fight they'd like to make. Guerrero's alternative is an unattractive mandatory against Mzonke Fana, which HBO isn't interested in and isn't economically viable. Maidana is also a possibility for one of the undercards. "There are a lot of things to discuss, but there are lot of guys we can mix and match and make some great fights," Schaefer said.
FLINT ISLAND
01-22-2010, 11:38 AM
Apart from Mayweather Marquez has been competive with everyone. So he has a great chance of beating Khan.
Khan is all about speed and movement - so that could give Marquez real problems too.
Should be a good fight. - I would give my vote to Marquez though. He is not a shot mexican like Barrera was against Khan.
Marquez is a solid dangrous operator - he was just outclassed last time by a modern great fighter who had every physical advantage over him.
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