View Full Version : How High Can Pavlik Go Up In Weight?
surreal deal
10-02-2007, 02:09 PM
Obviously whilst remaining an effective,fit, elite fighter.
the guy is only 25,6ft3,powerful and struggles at 160(he was 169 for a fight 2 years ago)
how big when he's say 30ish.
is cruiser out of the question?
Boom_Boom
10-02-2007, 02:12 PM
anything past supermiddle and he will be a low risk high reward gate keeper at best
Crusier seems like too big for him. I could def see him at LHW in 5 years.
Relentless
10-02-2007, 02:19 PM
pavlik is a huge middleweight, with all the strength training he does i wonder how he makes the weight.
klion22
10-02-2007, 02:21 PM
pavlik is a huge middleweight, with all the strength training he does i wonder how he makes the weight.
Didn't you see HBO's Preview show? He runs like a deer.
Relentless
10-02-2007, 02:22 PM
it must kill him to make weight.
natural fighting weight = 168
max fit fighting weight 175
The man is 6'3"; larger than most at 168...shows no significant body mass at 160. He is draining himself to make 160, literally looks emaciated. It's more than entirely likely he's at a detriment at 160 lacking the nourishment to compete at 100%. 168 is the natural fighting weight at this stage of his career. His power and strength will be greater at 168, and peak at or just below 175. Saying 175 is out of the question is ridiculous.
LHW at best and there he wouldn´t be as effective. Right now he shouldn´t even move up to 168, i doubt he could beat any top fighter there.
I like Pavlik over all at 168 with the exception of Calzaghe, Kessler, and Green.
Saying at 6'3" middleweight who looks emaciated at 160 and just broke down a man who outpointed BHOP twice (who has made noise at 175) will have no problem at 168.
He'll have greater endurance, power, speed, strength...everything.
I'm 6'1"...i fight between 147 and 160 pounds. There's a big difference in how i feel fighting at 147 (where i look as drained as Pavlik did) and when i fight at 154 or 160. The extra fuel and extra mass help. I can cover more of my body with the extra mass on my arms and back, and i can go more rounds at a faster pace with the extra energy from being well rounded nutritionally. I'm more alert, focused, and my timing is on point.
cross_trainer
10-02-2007, 03:02 PM
I would recommend that he unify (if he can) at 160, then move up in weight as soon as he possible to beat the winner of Kessler-Calzaghe. 168 seems like a better place for him to dominate in the long term.
klion22
10-02-2007, 03:04 PM
Well, he's naturally lanky and has a lean body so it might not be THAT tough for him to make 160 seeing that he does run a lot just like Hopkins did. If he'd dedicated, maybe he can put together a long string of defenses.
Lampley
10-02-2007, 03:42 PM
Ideally, I'd like to see him fight Abraham, then move up. The Taylor rematch and potential huge money against the winner of Calzaghe/Kessler obviously could affect that plan, though.
I think he can be very bit as good at 168 as he can at 160, but I think he'll probably lose a bit at 175.
brooklyn1550
10-02-2007, 03:51 PM
We will see him at 175 before his career concludes
We will see him at 175 before his career concludes
I think that is possible, depending how long his career is. He has talked about fighting till his early 30s then retire.
mattress
10-02-2007, 06:25 PM
He'll go up but at the moment he'll have his ass handed to him.
Kamil
10-02-2007, 08:13 PM
Love to to see him go up weight and fight Chad Dawson or maybe Adamek, would be interesting match ups
He Hate Me
10-02-2007, 08:15 PM
natural fighting weight = 168
max fit fighting weight 175
The man is 6'3"; larger than most at 168...shows no significant body mass at 160. He is draining himself to make 160, literally looks emaciated. It's more than entirely likely he's at a detriment at 160 lacking the nourishment to compete at 100%. 168 is the natural fighting weight at this stage of his career. His power and strength will be greater at 168, and peak at or just below 175. Saying 175 is out of the question is ridiculous.
He can easily establish himself at 175.
surreal deal
10-03-2007, 06:38 AM
he's taller than Hearns,and started at a higher weight,yet hearns went to cruiser(albeit ineffectually)
this guy can go up the divisions without doubt.
im not even convinced cruiser is ultimately beyond him.
rydersonthestorm
10-03-2007, 07:01 AM
Well when you consider that people like david haye weigh 230 pounds and fight's at cruiserweight, i doubt pavlik will make a good cruiserweight.
Mendoza
10-03-2007, 07:34 AM
Obviously whilst remaining an effective,fit, elite fighter.
the guy is only 25,6ft3,powerful and struggles at 160(he was 169 for a fight 2 years ago)
how big when he's say 30ish.
is cruiser out of the question?
Pavlik can fight at 168 and 175 for sure. I'm not sure if his power would work as well at 200. It would be in Pavlik's best interest to make an easy title defense at 160 on HBO, then fight the winner of Clazaghe vs Kessler at 168. If Pavlik fights the winner of Clazaghe vs Kessler, the winner could be boxing's #1 pound for pound fighter.
Bigcat
10-03-2007, 10:16 AM
A light heavyweight if i ever saw one..
Natural Lt heavy in his latter years..
A solid banging 175 pounder ..... Like a Lalonde type.. only a lot more versatile..
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