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garymcfall
10-02-2007, 02:22 PM
Who woul be your shout for the fighter who has been most blatently and consistently avoided in the last 20 years?
PowerPuncher
10-02-2007, 02:42 PM
Based on them earning big fights and being avoided:

1. McCallum (avoided by Fab 5)
2. Herol Bomber Graham (avoided by everyone)
3. Lennox Lewis (avoided by Bowe/Holyfield/Moorer/Tyson/Foreman/Seldon/Botha)
4. Vitali Klitchko? (Did Lennox, Tyson, RJJ, Byrd/Ruiz avoid him?)
5. Wlad Klitchko?(Did Lennox, RJJ, Byrd/Ruiz avoid him?)
6. Junior Witter (avoided by Hatton for 7 years, mandatory to Mayweather, couldnt get shots at Cotto/Gatti/Harris - he jsut beat Harris as WBC Champ, wanted Corrales, now trying to get Malignaggi in the ring)

2 & 6 are from the same gym :D
TBooze
10-02-2007, 03:00 PM
Based on them earning big fights and being avoided:

1. McCallum (avoided by Fab 5)

Most at the time wanted to see Hearns/Duran over Hearns/McCallum; then when McCallum had another chance to fight one of the fab four, he blew the Kalambay fight.

2. Herol Bomber Graham (avoided by everyone)

Shame he did not avoid Kalmabay, or indeed Jackson's right hand;)
My dinner with Conteh
10-02-2007, 03:08 PM
Super Greg Page of course. :good
Danny Ocean
10-02-2007, 03:14 PM
bergeron
cross_trainer
10-02-2007, 03:15 PM
bergeron

Unquestionably. It's getting to the point where anybody getting ducked is being "Bergeron'ed".
BITCH ASS
10-02-2007, 03:17 PM
Margarito!!!!!!!!!
PowerPuncher
10-02-2007, 03:44 PM
Margarito!!!!!!!!!

Less than Witter/Harris in recent times. Oh and he turned down Mosley and Mayweather
JohnThomas1
10-02-2007, 06:40 PM
Super Greg Page of course. :good

If they said 30 years he'd be a shoe in

:D
My dinner with Conteh
10-02-2007, 07:21 PM
If they said 30 years he'd be a shoe in

:D



If they said 35 years...


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rydersonthestorm
10-02-2007, 07:24 PM
lol on lewis avoiding vitali and wlad, he beat vitali when he was pretty much retired so why should an out of shape none peak lewis stop his retirement plans for a fight he won and only did for an extra payday.
mcvey
10-02-2007, 07:27 PM
Most at the time wanted to see Hearns/Duran over Hearns/McCallum; then when McCallum had another chance to fight one of the fab four, he blew the Kalambay fight.



Shame he did not avoid Kalmabay, or indeed Jackson's right hand;)
McCallum is a good pick,Toney was avoided by Benn ,Eubanks and Watson
JohnThomas1
10-02-2007, 07:30 PM
If they said 35 years...


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:good

:rofl

Was that last line aimed at The Mallard?

:lol:
PowerPuncher
10-02-2007, 07:38 PM
Most at the time wanted to see Hearns/Duran over Hearns/McCallum; then when McCallum had another chance to fight one of the fab four, he blew the Kalambay fight.

Shame he (Bomber GRaham) did not avoid Kalmabay, or indeed Jackson's right hand;)

Were the Kalambay fights (against McCallum and Graham) fair results? I didnt catch those, and dodgy decisions are notorious in Italy

Kalambay must have been some fighter though if he beat McCallum and Graham fair and square
Jear
10-02-2007, 07:43 PM
Not sure if he was ducked but noone was queing up to fight Quartey. Excluding maybe Oscar everyone made a big loop around Ike
Boro chris
10-02-2007, 08:00 PM
Were the Kalambay fights (against McCallum and Graham) fair results? I didnt catch those, and dodgy decisions are notorious in Italy

Kalambay must have been some fighter though if he beat McCallum and Graham fair and square

Yes he was. Though both of them got the better of him in their respective rematches. (Though Graham was robbed).

Shame a lot of people think of the Nunn blowout when Kalambay's name is mentioned.

SK deservedly won the first match against Graham though it was close. Didn't see the first MM match.
Vantage_West
10-02-2007, 08:20 PM
Not sure if he was ducked but noone was queing up to fight Quartey. Excluding maybe Oscar everyone made a big loop around Ikeike was big material no one wanted part of him oscar didnt want to fight him ike just turned up when oscar was at welter. ike had the talent that made him an undercard hero.

oscar just picked him. and looked bad
PowerPuncher
10-02-2007, 08:28 PM
ike was big material no one wanted part of him oscar didnt want to fight him ike just turned up when oscar was at welter. ike had the talent that made him an undercard hero.

oscar just picked him. and looked bad

Ike took 9rounds for me
Thread Stealer
10-03-2007, 12:15 AM
Trinidad was going to fight Quartey in late 98'. Arum made an offer to Quartey. This came after when Oscar was getting some criticism for his choice of opposition after Whitaker, reaching its low point with the Chavez rematch. Quartey pulled out to fight Oscar, who most likely provided a bigger payday. Tito ended up fighting Whitaker shortly after DLH-Quartey.
Thread Stealer
10-03-2007, 12:16 AM
Ike took 9rounds for me

I gave Ike 7 rounds and Oscar 5 (114-113 Quartey).
RoccoMarciano
10-03-2007, 12:36 AM
No doubt it's the mighty freak, Valuev! Wasn't he about to crush a record???? :)
My dinner with Conteh
10-03-2007, 06:02 AM
Re: Kalambay.


I thought Herol shaded the second fight in Italy but Sumbu was a good winner in their first meeting. The McCallum fight was an easy win for Kalambay. The judges had it way too close. 117-111 was about right.
TBooze
10-03-2007, 02:53 PM
Didn't see the first MM match.

I remember watching it on Sports World Extra (a proper blast from the past!)

Kalambay won; fairly well, but McCallum did not seem with it that night, and blew some potentially huge pay days because of that performance.
Titan1
10-04-2007, 11:51 AM
Grant Mitchell.
hopkinsfan07
10-04-2007, 04:28 PM
winky wright and witter
saul_ir34
10-05-2007, 07:17 PM
HUMBERTO SOTO! this guy has been avoided by so many super featherweights its sad he hasnt fought any of the big names. and he has around 50-60 fights.
cuchulain
10-05-2007, 08:23 PM
lol on lewis avoiding vitali and wlad, he beat vitali when he was pretty much retired so why should an out of shape none peak lewis stop his retirement plans for a fight he won and only did for an extra payday.


I believe Sugah meant that Lennox avoided the rematch. He mulled things over for a year before deciding against it, and retired.
cuchulain
10-05-2007, 08:26 PM
I gave Ike 7 rounds and Oscar 5 (114-113 Quartey).


That I gave them six apiece. 114-113 for Oscar.
cuchulain
10-05-2007, 08:26 PM
Winky ?
Thread Stealer
10-05-2007, 08:28 PM
.

7 to 5 for Ike would be 115-113, minus the 1 point for the KD in round 12.

Round 6 when both went down was a pretty clear 10-9 for Ike, since he clearly did the better work after the 2 KDs.
LeonMcS
10-05-2007, 11:20 PM
Was going to say McCallum (the most under-appreciated champ in my memory) but nah, has to be Bergeron. I still maintain Valuev pulled a gun on him at the start of the sixth. Watch the tape, its all there.