Liakhovich vs. Valuev

[emanuel_augustus]

is supposedly the eliminator for the WBA belt and is listed already on boxrec (which means little).

If this comes off, I'm thinking I favor Sergei, although I hate his inactivity. He has the style to beat Valuev, incorporating subtle movements to keep the big man off balance, countering effectively with crisp shots and getting out of range, much like Chagaev did.

The big question here would be ring rust. It looks like Liakovich isn't taking a tuneup pre-Valuev, which could be a mistake, but all in all, I would have to favor the White Wolf to get it done against plodding and possibly declining Valuev.

[Motor City Sam]

is supposedly the eliminator for the WBA belt and is listed already on boxrec (which means little).

If this comes off, I'm thinking I favor Sergei, although I hate his inactivity. He has the style to beat Valuev, incorporating subtle movements to keep the big man off balance, countering effectively with crisp shots and getting out of range, much like Chagaev did.

The big question here would be ring rust. It looks like Liakovich isn't taking a tuneup pre-Valuev, which could be a mistake, but all in all, I would have to favor the White Wolf to get it done against plodding and possibly declining Valuev.

I agree. Favoring Sergei if he has overcome getting knocked out of the ring by Shannon and the resulting inactivity. That's a big IF.

[cross_trainer]

Lyakhovich didn't seem great when it came to fighting against a larger, taller opponent. While Valuev is considerably slower than Briggs and lacks the same punching power, he does seem to present problems for Lyakhovich's outside-fighting strengths that carried him to victory against Brewster.

That, and the fact that Valuev is not coming off of inactivity and a devastating loss.

On an unrelated note, Lyakhovich is a bit of a Beaker lookalike himself.

[Cachibatches]

This has stinker written all over it. I just hope Sergei doesn't come in fat.

[joeboxer]

Lyakhovich didn't seem great when it came to fighting against a larger, taller opponent. While Valuev is considerably slower than Briggs and lacks the same punching power, he does seem to present problems for Lyakhovich's outside-fighting strengths that carried him to victory against Brewster.

That, and the fact that Valuev is not coming off of inactivity and a devastating loss.

On an unrelated note, Lyakhovich is a bit of a Beaker lookalike himself.Valuev has slower hands than briggs...but is much faster and will throw far more punches. Before the briggs fight i would have picked lyachovick. but now I'll pick Valuev by late tko.

[KO byBRIGGS]

Briggs should fight Valuev that would be a better fight.

[LogDog69]

Valuev has slower hands than briggs...but is much faster and will throw far more punches. Before the briggs fight i would have picked lyachovick. but now I'll pick Valuev by late tko.

That statement confuses me. :huh

[LogDog69]

Briggs should fight Valuev that would be a better fight.


I would rather watch a Grey's Anatomy marathon than watch Briggs fight anyone ever again. :yep

[Cruiser1]

I don' wanna start a firestorm but I really think Sergei was intimidated by Briggs. He was willing to trade with Brewster who can hit like a mule but he wanted absolutely no part of Briggs, which is shame cuz he could have easily won that fight. I think Shannon's trashtalking and insults got to him and I read an article somewhere (months after the fact) that suggested the same thing.

Now here's the thing...Valuev's intimidation factor is practically gone after his last few performances. Yeah he's huge but he's beatable and he can't crack like Briggs. The only things that would stop Sergei from winning this fight IMO is if he lost another mental battle or if the ringrust was too much.

[badreader]

It will be TKO for Valuev. Problem with Liahovich - he is too tough too stupid. He don't listen to his corner and he standing and traiding when he need to box. Which is a recepie for disaster with Valuev.

[unclepaulie]

serguei takes it by ud, he moves his head too much and he can flurry really well.

[box03]

It will be TKO for Valuev. Problem with Liahovich - he is too tough too stupid. He don't listen to his corner and he standing and traiding when he need to box. Which is a recepie for disaster with Valuev. I agree, Briggs is a big guy himslef at 6'4 270 but compared to Valuev at 7'1 328 hes a huge ass guy. I see Valuev taken it to Liakhovich and eventually knocking him out in the 6 round, Sergeis chin will never be the same after what Briggs did to him.

[Artani]

Lets happen :good
Interesting fight .

[jopez707]

I am a still a supporter of Liakhovich, I think he can stay active enough to use his fast hands to pull out a points decision against the Giant. His ring inactivity is disturbing but then again he was coming off a 14 month layoff when he put it all together against Brewster.

[Heavyrighthand]

I smell a snoozer of a fight that has Valuev winning a very close decision.

[RUSKULL]

Briggs should fight Valuev that would be a better fight.

Forget Briggs already, the guy is done.

[RUSKULL]

Valuev beats Sergei. Both guys are bums but Valuev wins because of his height.

Neither fighter is a "bum" you geek. :thumbsup

[Blacc Jesus]

Valuev beats Sergei. Both guys are bums but Valuev wins because of his height.
Nah.

[LennoxGOAT]

Valuev will win. People continue to try and discredit him. Valuev is really good.

[LennoxGOAT]

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


:-( You obviously have never worn a jockstrap in your life.

He is 7 foot, can move, jabs, has excellent stamina, and has an iron jaw. Valuev will never be a pushover.

[box03]

:-( You obviously have never worn a jockstrap in your life.

He is 7 foot, can move, jabs, has excellent stamina, and has an iron jaw. Valuev will never be a pushover. well said, his stamina is amazing for his size. Valuev I think would even be a tall order for Wlad to handle.

[Decker]

:-( You obviously have never worn a jockstrap in your life.

He is 7 foot, can move, jabs, has excellent stamina, and has an iron jaw. Valuev will never be a pushover. :lol: Agree, but it would be interesting to see how/if SL could deal with Valuev.

well said, his stamina is amazing for his size. Valuev I think would even be a tall order for Wlad to handle. Yep, NV has superb stamina for his size. I'd favor Wlad to win by UD. :good

[Farmboxer]

Valouev will knock Lyakhovich out.

[rags19]

I've thought that the Brewster fight took more out of Sergei than people think. His team seems awfully careful about who they're willing to match him with, and say what you want about Briggs, but he can bang.

Seems to me that Liakhovich "lost" by "winning" vs. Brewster, that fight took a lot out of both guys, and in the Briggs fight, Sergei seemed unwilling to engage after getting rocked early in the fight, and since then, Liakhovich's team has carefully avoided seeking fights vs. big hitters instead seeking fights vs. guys like Valuev (doesn't hit particularily hard for his size) or James Toney (hasn'd KO'd anyone in couple of years now).

[joeboxer]

That statement confuses me. :huhwhoops, i meant as far as body movement.

[box03]

I've thought that the Brewster fight took more out of Sergei than people think. His team seems awfully careful about who they're willing to match him with, and say what you want about Briggs, but he can bang.

Seems to me that Liakhovich "lost" by "winning" vs. Brewster, that fight took a lot out of both guys, and in the Briggs fight, Sergei seemed unwilling to engage after getting rocked early in the fight, and since then, Liakhovich's team has carefully avoided seeking fights vs. big hitters instead seeking fights vs. guys like Valuev (doesn't hit particularily hard for his size) or James Toney (hasn'd KO'd anyone in couple of years now). Liakhovich is gun shy now, as you already said Brewster took alot of him. In the Briggs fight he got countered early by Briggs and was tenative since, When Briggs knocked him out in the 12th round I was shocked and was in disbelieve. Sergei will never be the same and will not fight well against even an above average puncher like Valuev, his size will be too much to handle for Sergei IMO.

[emanuel_augustus]

Sergei will never be the same and will not fight well against even an above average puncher like Valuev, his size will be too much to handle for Sergei IMO.

Who the hell knows what he'll be like after getting ko'd. He hasn't fought again since then so we have no barometer. By your absurd logic, Maskaev shouldn't have ever gotten anywhere near a world title, since he'd been brutally ko'd several times.

Liakovich is still relatively young and definitely talented enough to make another run at a world title.

[box03]

Who the hell knows what he'll be like after getting ko'd. He hasn't fought again since then so we have no barometer. By your absurd logic, Maskaev shouldn't have ever gotten anywhere near a world title, since he'd been brutally ko'd several times.

Liakovich is still relatively young and definitely talented enough to make another run at a world title. Well anyone whos ever been in the ring will tell you, after you get knocked out in a devastating way like he did you should always try and get a fight within the couple months so you dont dwell on it cause that will only make you worse when you do have to come back and fight. I like Sergei, but he listens to no one in his corner and does things his way in the ring, and paid for it. Look at Brewster when he came back to fight Wlad, he was not the same fighter that fought Sergei just 15 months before.

[emanuel_augustus]

Look at Brewster when he came back to fight Wlad, he was not the same fighter that fought Sergei just 15 months before.
The Brewster fight was a brutal, sustained beating where Brewster was hit repeatedly and sustained a serious retinal injury.

Liakovich/Briggs was a non-event with Liakovich outboxing him and basically taking no punishment at all up until the ko in the last round.

Two different fights, with different consequences for the combatants.

I agree that that kind of ko can take your confidence, but it doesn't necessarily have to. Sergei should really fight more frequently though. A tune-up confidence building fight, say 6 or 8 months ago would have been a really smart thing to do.

[box03]

The Brewster fight was a brutal, sustained beating where Brewster was hit repeatedly and sustained a serious retinal injury.

Liakovich/Briggs was a non-event with Liakovich outboxing him and basically taking no punishment at all up until the ko in the last round.

Two different fights, with different consequences for the combatants.

I agree that that kind of ko can take your confidence, but it doesn't necessarily have to. Sergei should really fight more frequently though. A tune-up confidence building fight, say 6 or 8 months ago would have been a really smart thing to do. Thats what I was trying to say, hes already sat on the loss to long IMO. I really dont believe a guy like Valuev is the best choice of oppenents for him, while he might not hit as hard as Briggs he certainly is a very Physically imposing figure to square of against. Valuev will beat Liakhovich, his punch is enough to back Sergei up and if he gets him up against the ropes I could see this one being stopped in the early rounds.

[LogDog69]

whoops, i meant as far as body movement.

Okay now I get what you're saying. :good

[Bigcat]

One thing Valuev is able to do is make otherwise exciting solid heavyweights look ordinary because they react a bit warily when they are faced with the freakish dimensions...... Valuev is an expert at making a great fight look sluggish. He has a face for radio and a style better watched in braille..

He isn't good he just suffocates those who are.........

[magnificentdave]

I agree that this does not sound like a very exciting match up... if sergei fights on the outside like he did against Briggs...
I'd predict an almost carbon copy of the chagaev valuev fight...
short armed heavy weights using foot speed to get in and out without taking too many shots
if he tries an inside fight... he might do very well, and actually make an interesting fight! but the problem with staying on the inside with Valuev is not getting knocked out, it's getting leaned on by 300+ pounds in clinches

[KO byBRIGGS]

The White WOlf and Briggs need a comeback opponent so they should just fight a rematch, and I assure ya, Briggs isn't going to get lucky this time.

White Wolf KO BriggsI would like to see this rematch if this fight against Valuev is an eliminator then maybe Briggs will get the first crack at the title if Sergei wins it. I would love to see the rematch just to show all the haters the outcome would be no different

[24barrels]

I agree that this does not sound like a very exciting match up... if sergei fights on the outside like he did against Briggs...
I'd predict an almost carbon copy of the chagaev valuev fight...
short armed heavy weights using foot speed to get in and out without taking too many shots
if he tries an inside fight... he might do very well, and actually make an interesting fight! but the problem with staying on the inside with Valuev is not getting knocked out, it's getting leaned on by 300+ pounds in clinches

Hopefully SL wins but i doubt he can do it as impressive as Chagaev. Chagaev has more explosiveness and very good footwork.