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brown bomber
01-22-2010, 06:29 PM
You know on WWE RAW when the undertaker takes on some guy with his own name in black shorts, whose already in the ring at the start of the program.... Well this thread is dedicated to the pointless match ups of 2010..............


Post em up. :good:good:good:good

Oh and how about the promotors name next to it.... Bit naughty but will allow us to keep tabs.

THE LIST OF SHAME

Groves 7-0 (5) Vs Sarohanian 2-2 (0) - Frank Maloney
McAllister 30-2 (7) Vs Amaoko 6-0 (2) - Tommy Gilmour
Kevin Mitchell 30-0 (22) Vs Ignacio Mendoza 27-5-2 (18 )- Wazza
Liam Walsh 6-0 (5) Vs Sid Razak 4-40 (1)- Wazza
Nathan Cleverly 18-0 (8 ) Vs Antonio Brancalion 32-7-2 (8 )- Wazza
Jamie Cox 13-0 (7) vs Micheal Frontin 2-6-1 (0)- Wazza

skel1983
01-22-2010, 06:31 PM
You know on WWE RAW when the undertaker takes on some guy with his own name in black shorts, whose already in the ring at the start of the program.... Well this thread is dedicated to the pointless match ups of 2010..............


Post em up. :good:good:good:good

Oh and how about the promotors name next to it.... Bit naughty but will allow us to keep tabs.

Hahahaha that made me laugh.

brown bomber
01-22-2010, 06:31 PM
Groves 7-0 (5) Vs Sarohanian 2-2 (0) - Frank Maloney

hagman1989
01-22-2010, 06:34 PM
Groves 7-0 (5) Vs Sarohanian 2-2 (0) - Frank Maloney


that was a test for groves got hit to often for such a poor opponent

Mazallan
01-22-2010, 06:34 PM
Good job Groves has a good chin though.

brown bomber
01-22-2010, 06:36 PM
Rukes are it has to be televised

brown bomber
01-22-2010, 06:37 PM
that was a test for groves got hit to often for such a poor opponentHow was it a test? It was a pointless waste of time.

brown bomber
01-29-2010, 05:49 PM
New addition McAllister 30-2 (7) Vs Amaoko 6-0 (2)

kosaros
01-29-2010, 06:16 PM
Former 'world' title challenger Matthew Hatton (37-4-2) is scheduled to fight Mikheil Khucishvili (13-9-2).

brown bomber
01-29-2010, 06:22 PM
Only added when its on the telly otherwise id never stop typing

GazOC
01-29-2010, 06:47 PM
that was a test for groves got hit to often for such a poor opponent

Yup. Awful performance from Groves. If he wants to make that left hand down style work then he better improve sharpish.

anklespanker75
01-30-2010, 06:28 PM
i know its alread been but tarver v dawson II.... And yes i did think it was pointless before the fight as well as after..

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 04:56 PM
New entries

Kevin Mitchell 30-0 (22) Vs Ignacio Mendoza 27-5-2 (18) (Continental no-mark with no form of note other then one sided lost to 21 year old john murray)
Liam Walsh 6-0 (5) Vs Sid Razak 4-40 (1) (one win in his last 41 contests)

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 05:02 PM
Nathan Cleverly 18-0 (8 ) Vs Antonio Brancalion 32-7-2 (8 ) - one fight in the last 14 months, that been a sub 2 minute KO loss- no wins of great note.

Martbowski
02-13-2010, 05:05 PM
It's the chance of a European title - how's that a what's the point match?

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 05:11 PM
It's the chance of a European title - how's that a what's the point match? Its a vacant title fight against an inactive opponent, coming off a one round KO loss- he wins in one 'who cares!' he loses and its a disaster.... thus its a pointless match up... i understand that you don't really understand boxing and how the sport works but hope this helps...

... Anyway shouldn't you be masturbating over gay porn?:lol:

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 05:35 PM
Wow busy night, Jamie Cox 13-0 (7) vs Micheal Frontin 2-6-1 (0) serious? Not a terrible fighter but what the fuck is Cox fighting him for?

Martbowski
02-13-2010, 05:37 PM
Its a vacant title fight against an inactive opponent, coming off a one round KO loss- he wins in one 'who cares!' he loses and its a disaster.... thus its a pointless match up... i understand that you don't really understand boxing and how the sport works but hope this helps...

... Anyway shouldn't you be masturbating over gay porn?:lol:
It's almost Valentines Day - I'll be taking for once.

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 05:38 PM
It's almost Valentines Day - I'll be taking for once.:lol::rofl

Darn it!!!

skel1983
02-13-2010, 05:40 PM
Wow busy night, Jamie Cox 13-0 (7) vs Micheal Frontin 2-6-1 (0) serious? Not a terrible fighter but what the fuck is Cox fighting him for?


Cox looks shite tonight, the guy he is fighting has been a good test. Deffo not pointless.

Beeston Brawler
02-13-2010, 05:42 PM
The fact that someone sports an Audley Harrison avatar disturbs me :-(

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 05:43 PM
Cox looks shite tonight, the guy he is fighting has been a good test. Deffo not pointless.Ok, if he won in one round by triple ko would you have been impressed? Me neither... the match is irrelevant and thus is pointless.

Frontin has lost to serial loser Alex Spitko- the match up has zero worth, no wonder Cox has gone off the boil after looking sensational.

Cox or Groves looking shite is not improtant... going in the match means nothing.

hagman1989
02-13-2010, 05:47 PM
a few of your pointless matchups have been rather more competative than your billing would sugest

i say stop making stupid posts

skel1983
02-13-2010, 05:48 PM
Ok, if he won in one round by triple ko would you have been impressed? Me neither... the match is irrelevant and thus is pointless.

Frontin has lost to serial loser Alex Spitko- the match up has zero worth, no wonder Cox has gone off the boil after looking sensational.

Cox or Groves looking shite is not improtant... going in the match means nothing.


How the fuck is it irrelevant??

Cox has/will learn alot from this experience of tonights fight alot more than hsi past few fights, he and his team will go back and see some flaws and see where he can improve, I dont see how a fight like this is pointless for a 13 fight pro who is getting 8 rounds under his belt??

IMO this has been just what Cox needed, I think he has been believing his hype a little bit to much in his last few fights and calling the likes of Kell Brook can be put on hold for a while after this a very good fight for me and one which will benefit him loads for the future.

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 05:53 PM
a few of your pointless matchups have been rather more competative than your billing would sugest

i say stop making stupid posts

Romanov - Murray
Bognar - Gomez
Devakov - Oliver
Szabo - Matthews
Catley - Galfi
Epifancev - Jacobs
Lockett - Tsarenko

were all competitive... they were shit matches going into the fight... that you don't get the idea of the thread is your problem you thick cunt. :thumbsup

How about you shut the fuck up:good

TFFP
02-13-2010, 05:53 PM
This thread was going well until you claimed there was no point in fighting for the European title.

Even though Brancalion was shit, the point of the European title is it makes more money and it improves your ranking for world titles.

skel1983
02-13-2010, 05:55 PM
Romanov - Murray
Bognar - Gomez
Devakov - Oliver
Szabo - Matthews
Catley - Galfi
Epifancev - Jacobs
Lockett - Tsarenko

were all competitive... they were shit matches going into the fight... that you don't get the idea of the thread is your problem you thick cunt. :thumbsup

How about you shut the fuck up:good

Spitting your dummy out now?

hagman1989
02-13-2010, 05:56 PM
Romanov - Murray
Bognar - Gomez
Devakov - Oliver
Szabo - Matthews
Catley - Galfi
Epifancev - Jacobs
Lockett - Tsarenko

were all competitive... they were shit matches going into the fight... that you don't get the idea of the thread is your problem you thick cunt. :thumbsup

How about you shut the fuck up:good


find someone else that disagrees with me

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 05:57 PM
How the fuck is it irrelevant??

Its irrelevant because he is boxing a light welterweight who has had nine fights and won two.... He should be addressing these issues in sparring not in an arena full of people.

Had he won the fight in one or two rounds would you have been suprised? Would you have cared? No wonder he is looking shit and making mistakes, he's fighting one over-matched unknown opponent after another.

Had he lost the fight he would be written off, win impressively and no one cares.. look bad and its a good match?:huh I don't get your logic.

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 05:59 PM
find someone else that disagrees with meSorry bit harsh with the reply had a few fosters...:D I'd find loads... the matches i've listed were wastes of time for everyone involved.

LHL
02-13-2010, 06:02 PM
Cox looks shite tonight, the guy he is fighting has been a good test. Deffo not pointless.

I thought Cox looked shit more to do with going over old ground. Cox is being linked with a fight with Brook and he gets that guy wtf... pointless fight he should be fighting someone that will move him up the rankings not make him looked bored.

skel1983
02-13-2010, 06:02 PM
Its irrelevant because he is boxing a light welterweight who has had nine fights and won two.... He should be addressing these issues in sparring not in an arena full of people.

Had he won the fight in one or two rounds would you have been suprised? Would you have cared? No wonder he is looking shit and making mistakes, he's fighting one over-matched unknown opponent after another.

Had he lost the fight he would be written off, win impressively and no one cares.. look bad and its a good match?:huh I don't get your logic.

Man you come across quite clueless considering you were once a so called boxer.

How many fighters have said they needed that when they have either been beat or put in a stinker when in truth it should of been an easy nights work. Cox might have cut some corners in training he might of took this guy lightly a fight like this will do him the world of good for the future he will learn alot from a fight like this.

I think your getting a bit touchy mate, chill out. Your thread on the whole has been a fail you will come again dont worry..:good

hagman1989
02-13-2010, 06:04 PM
Sorry bit harsh with the reply had a few fosters...:D I'd find loads... the matches i've listed were wastes of time for everyone involved.


they simply wernt im afraid your being either realy stupid or realy stuburn

they were good fights (fr the most part) that were great for the learning and development of the prospects

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 06:04 PM
This thread was going well until you claimed there was no point in fighting for the European title.

Even though Brancalion was shit, the point of the European title is it makes more money and it improves your ranking for world titles.Granted the title has some value, but much like Rendall Munroe he has a plastic title... Crawford Ashley, Ole Klementson, Clinton Woods, Yawe Davis etc etc all earned their European title. Cleverly rescued it from a dustbin against a seemingly retired fighter... The title has no value. He's hardly a European champion? Whose he beaten for the title? Its just like the Vacant WBO title fights ****** used to stage... pointless.

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 06:06 PM
they simply wernt im afraid your being either realy stupid or realy stuburn

they were good fights (fr the most part) that were great for the learning and development of the prospects No they were record padding wastes of time.

hagman1989
02-13-2010, 06:06 PM
Granted the title has some value, but much like Rendall Munroe he has a plastic title... Crawford Ashley, Ole Klementson, Clinton Woods, Yawe Davis etc etc all earned their European title. Cleverly rescued it from a dustbin against a seemingly retired fighter... The title has no value. He's hardly a European champion? Whose he beaten for the title? Its just like the Vacant WBO title fights ****** used to stage... pointless.


hows the title or any title for that matter suposed to return after its vacated unless we have fights for vacant titles

hagman1989
02-13-2010, 06:07 PM
No they were record padding wastes of time.


i see im wasting my time trying to inform you of your mistakes

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 06:09 PM
hows the title or any title for that matter suposed to return after its vacated unless we have fights for vacant titlesSo there is no light heavy in europe with better form then one fight, a two minute kayo loss in the last 12 months... get outta here you joker:lol:

hagman1989
02-13-2010, 06:11 PM
So there is no light heavy in europe with better form then one fight, a two minute kayo loss in the last 12 months... get outta here you joker:lol:


is that what i said ............................. no nd maybe there isnt someone more capable .. do you know this

fuck off everyone agrees that the thread is flawed so leave it to die and do your ESB british forum reputation some good

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 06:18 PM
Man you come across quite clueless considering you were once a so called boxer.
:good Happy to do a few rounds and see how so called I was tough guy... :good

Re the rest of your post

How many fighters have said they needed that when they have either been beat or put in a stinker when in truth it should of been an easy nights work. Cox might have cut some corners in training he might of took this guy lightly a fight like this will do him the world of good for the future he will learn alot from a fight like this.

Try and get your head around this one hot rod....

The fight was a poor match because Cox stood to gain nothing other then a digit on his record. He's gained no respect, put in a shit performance against an unknown opponent and learned nothing he couldn't learn in a good sparring session.

Is it really that hard to understand... If Man Utd played scunthorpe every weekend do you think anyone would give a shit if they won? Do you think they'd learn anything? Do you think they'd start conceding the odd goal because they were unchallenged and going through the motions? Do you think when they had to play a fellow premiership side the match would serve any real purpose?

Are you that retarded you can't understand the concept of making an attractive match.

I feel for Dean Powell, I really do... he's got a tough job and I don't blame him- he does the best he can but these matches are irrelevant.

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 06:24 PM
is that what i said ............................. no nd maybe there isnt someone more capable .. do you know this

fuck off everyone agrees that the thread is flawed so leave it to die and do your ESB british forum reputation some good

Thierry Karl 28-4 (18)- 6 wins in a row all by KO.

Karo Murat 21-0 (13)- former European super middle champ

Here have a look at this you plank

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:deal Happy reading... glad you care about your ESB reputation so much, I don't give a shit :good

LHL
02-13-2010, 06:26 PM
Murat gave the title up. Rusal would have been a lot better than the Italian he was tough against Marco

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 06:27 PM
Murat gave the title up. Rusal would have been a lot better than the Italian he was tough against MarcoOk cool, but you get my point LHL? Or am i really deluded... its pretty late:lol:

hagman1989
02-13-2010, 06:32 PM
Thierry Karl 28-4 (18)- 6 wins in a row all by KO.

Karo Murat 21-0 (13)- former European super middle champ

Here have a look at this you plank

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:deal Happy reading... glad you care about your ESB reputation so much, I don't give a shit :good


lol nice to see you can use boxrec

the cleverly fight wasent poitless give it up

as for the outhers on the first page just give it up mate

as for esb rep as you put it i dont care if im controversiol aslong as im right nnd you sir are not right

LHL
02-13-2010, 06:32 PM
Ok cool, but you get my point LHL? Or am i really deluded... its pretty late:lol:

No i think your right other than the title this fight didn't make a lot of sense. Not ****** or Clev's fault but how this guy made it into a Euro title fight after losing almost a year ago to Brahmaer is a joke. I know the division is weak but surely not this weak.

The EBU could of made Rusal who was very tough against Huck a mando or that other unbeaten Ukrainian.

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 06:40 PM
lol nice to see you can use boxrec

the cleverly fight wasent poitless give it up

as for the outhers on the first page just give it up mate

as for esb rep as you put it i dont care if im controversiol aslong as im right nnd you sir are not right Nice to see you are illiterate; I don't know who you are.. if you think this fight had a point other then a easy title, then your easily impressed and probably VERY new to boxing- in which case pipe down. If you are a long time fan then you should be ashamed of yourself.

As fot the 'outhers' they were all equally pointless. All this 'you sir' stuff is equally gay and ruins your argument a little. That said you have no argument- your either a newbie or a mong.. you choose. :good

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 06:42 PM
No i think your right other than the title this fight didn't make a lot of sense. Not ****** or Clev's fault but how this guy made it into a Euro title fight after losing almost a year ago to Brahmaer is a joke. I know the division is weak but surely not this weak.

The EBU could of made Rusal who was very tough against Huck a mando or that other unbeaten Ukrainian. So i'm not completely barking then:lol:

hagman1989
02-13-2010, 06:42 PM
Nice to see you are illiterate; I don't know who you are.. if you think this fight had a point other then a easy title, then your easily impressed and probably VERY new to boxing- in which case pipe down. If you are a long time fan then you should be ashamed of yourself.

As fot the 'outhers' they were all equally pointless. All this 'you sir' stuff is equally gay and ruins your argument a little. That said you have no argument- your either a newbie or a mong.. you choose. :good


like i said erlier pal find someone else that disagrees with me

end of thread faggot

royalt0208
02-13-2010, 06:44 PM
Brancalion wasn't the greatest opponent and shouldn't have been the co-challenger but I thought tonight was a very good show and I though that Clev will have learned something from tonight.

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 06:45 PM
like i said erlier pal find someone else that disagrees with me

end of thread faggot:lol::patsch

Read above you dumb schmuck

hagman1989
02-13-2010, 06:47 PM
he didnt agree with the thread just your views on one fight , even if bracaloion wasent the strongest opponent avalible it dosent make it a "pointless" fight

idiot

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 06:47 PM
Brancalion wasn't the greatest opponent and shouldn't have been the co-challenger but I thought tonight was a very good show and I though that Clev will have learned something from tonight.Yep a fairly decent bill and great to have boxing back on a saturday. Can't complain about Gavin, Degales or del boys opponents either... it was a good show. I'm not all doom and gloom but this thread will prove interesting reading at the end of the year.

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 06:48 PM
he didnt agree with the thread just your views on one fight , even if bracaloion wasent the strongest opponent avalible it dosent make it a "pointless" fight

idiotTitle aside... why was it a good match up? What did Cleveley prove?

LHL
02-13-2010, 06:49 PM
So i'm not completely barking then:lol:

Not by me anyway, but im a bit of a twat :lol:

Good nights boxing but this fight although it made a decent watch was still pointless. A bit like Jones Vs B-Hop will be a decent fight but a bit pointless

kosaros
02-13-2010, 06:49 PM
like i said erlier pal find someone else that disagrees with me

end of thread faggot

The only one that you could argue that isn't 'pointless' that is on the list is the Cleverly fight, and I can see why Bomber put it there. The rest were pointless.

hagman1989
02-13-2010, 06:51 PM
Title aside... why was it a good match up? What did Cleveley prove?


hes of that level and now he can defed against euro level

hagman1989
02-13-2010, 06:54 PM
Groves 7-0 (5) Vs Sarohanian 2-2 (0) - Frank Maloney
Kevin Mitchell 30-0 (22) Vs Ignacio Mendoza 27-5-2 (18 )- Wazza
Liam Walsh 6-0 (5) Vs Sid Razak 4-40 (1)- Wazza
Nathan Cleverly 18-0 (8 ) Vs Antonio Brancalion 32-7-2 (8 )- Wazza
Jamie Cox 13-0 (7) vs Micheal Frontin 2-6-1 (0)- Wazza

if they were pintless then they i watched differant fights

they were either learning fights or stay sharp fights either way they wernt pointless

again some of them were far too competative to be labbled pointless

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 06:55 PM
idiot


:patsch:patsch:patsch

I've just read through some of your previous posts; I apoligise unreservedly for arguing with you this evening- I didn't realise that you are genuinely retarded.

Thank you for making me feel clever for a few minutes. Doesn't happen often. I kind of feel like of been arguing with myself now- doh!

Anyone who spells Bastard 'Basturd', among other funny shit you say... really needs all the encouragement they can get.

Ha ha... night night mate...

ollyc
02-13-2010, 06:56 PM
Murat gave the title up. Rusal would have been a lot better than the Italian he was tough against Marco

Murat relinquished the EBU super-middle title.
He's never fought for the light-heavy version.

hagman1989
02-13-2010, 07:00 PM
:patsch:patsch:patsch

I've just read through some of your previous posts; I apoligise unreservedly for arguing with you this evening- I didn't realise that you are genuinely retarded.

Thank you for making me feel clever for a few minutes. Doesn't happen often. I kind of feel like of been arguing with myself now- doh!

Anyone who spells Bastard 'Basturd', among other funny shit you say... really needs all the encouragement they can get.

Ha ha... night night mate...


so you pick on spelling mistakes on a saturday night infront of the tv (which ussaly involes beer like tonight)
instead of arguin the pints ive made

answer me this how can a resonably compeitive fight or a fight for a title be pointless good night sir youre done

LHL
02-13-2010, 07:01 PM
Murat relinquished the EBU super-middle title.
He's never fought for the light-heavy version.

:patsch My bad mate seems he is already got himself a WBO intercont.... one of them straps that gets you a top 10 ranking :lol:

Also the fights BB has mentioned the Walsh fight is the only one i would say is acceptable

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 07:01 PM
pintless then they i watched differant fights

they were either learning fights or stay sharp fights either way they wernt pointless

again some of them were far too competative to be labbled pointless :rofl ... Please read through the thread and here you will find all the information you need regarding my opinion on the matter. All the best.

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hagman1989
02-13-2010, 07:03 PM
:rofl ... Please read through the thread and here you will find all the information you need regarding my opinion on the matter. All the best.

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fair play this made me laugh but your still wrong

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 07:04 PM
No i'm not... but good night anyway

pauluscanary
02-13-2010, 07:06 PM
I do think it's difficult to call any young fighter's fights pointless. They're still learning their trade and when you look at a fighters first ten fights or so you won't generally look out for any big names. While sparring obviously teaches you a lot perhaps it's not such a bad experience to basically do the same thing in front of thousands of people getting on your back if you're not doing well. That said, for Walsh to still be fighting journeymen in his 7th fight raises some eyebrows.

Mitchell and Cleverly were obviously up against inferior opponents tonight, but both were a stepping stone onto bigger things. However, we shouldn't take anything away from them as it's their promoter that chooses their fights. And for some fighters it's difficult to build up any motivation against weaker opponents. But both fighters put on a good show and fought as if it were the toughest fight of their careers.

As you've already said though, an entertaining night of boxing and great to have it on a Saturday night again.

royalt0208
02-13-2010, 07:08 PM
Title aside... why was it a good match up? What did Cleveley prove?

Well maybe not a whole lot but in the wider context of his career it is another step forward and another decent win on his notch. Brancalion shouldn't have been co-challenger (makes a bit of a mockery of the EBU) but he is vastly experienced and teek tough the only reason Nathan made it look so easy was because he worked out the Italians weekness and exposed it superbly, the first couples of rounds were close and competitive. And in my book it's definately not worthy of going onto whats the point match up hall of shame.

royalt0208
02-13-2010, 07:11 PM
I do think it's difficult to call any young fighter's fights pointless. They're still learning their trade and when you look at a fighters first ten fights or so you won't generally look out for any big names. While sparring obviously teaches you a lot perhaps it's not such a bad experience to basically do the same thing in front of thousands of people getting on your back if you're not doing well. That said, for Walsh to still be fighting journeymen in his 7th fight raises some eyebrows.

Mitchell and Cleverly were obviously up against inferior opponents tonight, but both were a stepping stone onto bigger things. However, we shouldn't take anything away from them as it's their promoter that chooses their fights. And for some fighters it's difficult to build up any motivation against weaker opponents. But both fighters put on a good show and fought as if it were the toughest fight of their careers.

As you've already said though, an entertaining night of boxing and great to have it on a Saturday night again.

Spot on

ollyc
02-13-2010, 07:11 PM
How the fuck is it irrelevant??

Cox has/will learn alot from this experience of tonights fight alot more than hsi past few fights, he and his team will go back and see some flaws and see where he can improve, I dont see how a fight like this is pointless for a 13 fight pro who is getting 8 rounds under his belt??

IMO this has been just what Cox needed, I think he has been believing his hype a little bit to much in his last few fights and calling the likes of Kell Brook can be put on hold for a while after this a very good fight for me and one which will benefit him loads for the future.

The fight was a massive waste of time.
I doubt he'll learn anything from this fight - he's looked poor for a while & this regression seems to have continued.
It's seems blowing Jason Rushton out in a round has convinced him he's some kind of kayo merchant, when at best he carries a respectable dig.
However to suggest the Brancalion fight was a waste of time is a bit bizarre.
The title has value even if the opponent is substandard.

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 07:14 PM
I do think it's difficult to call any young fighter's fights pointless. They're still learning their trade and when you look at a fighters first ten fights or so you won't generally look out for any big names. While sparring obviously teaches you a lot perhaps it's not such a bad experience to basically do the same thing in front of thousands of people getting on your back if you're not doing well. That said, for Walsh to still be fighting journeymen in his 7th fight raises some eyebrows.

Mitchell and Cleverly were obviously up against inferior opponents tonight, but both were a stepping stone onto bigger things. However, we shouldn't take anything away from them as it's their promoter that chooses their fights. And for some fighters it's difficult to build up any motivation against weaker opponents. But both fighters put on a good show and fought as if it were the toughest fight of their careers.

As you've already said though, an entertaining night of boxing and great to have it on a Saturday night again.
Appreciate the thoughtful reply, please read earlier in my thread for my views. I agree that subsequently some of the matches became testing and thus learning fights, but this is by accident more then anything! Put it this way one sided fights can be 'good' matches and competitive fights can be 'bad' matches. If beforehand a fighter stands to gain little kudos at the conclusion regardless of the outcome then its a bad match.

Gavin beating the likes of McDonagh and Saville is good matching regardless of his perfomances during the bouts...

Gavin fighting a eurobum/ afrobum we've never heard of is a bad match. I don't want to have my first viewing of a foreign fighter against a 'hot' prospect....

In hindsight watching Cox's opponent against some other prospect now becomes a reasonably good match but only because he has established his credentials in a fight where Cox had nothing to gain.

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 07:16 PM
Well maybe not a whole lot but in the wider context of his career it is another step forward and another decent win on his notch. Brancalion shouldn't have been co-challenger (makes a bit of a mockery of the EBU) but he is vastly experienced and teek tough the only reason Nathan made it look so easy was because he worked out the Italians weekness and exposed it superbly, the first couples of rounds were close and competitive. And in my book it's definately not worthy of going onto whats the point match up hall of shame.

Please see my post above, again thanks for the decent reply and I can see your point but don;t agree. :good

brown bomber
02-13-2010, 07:19 PM
The fight was a massive waste of time.
I doubt he'll learn anything from this fight - he's looked poor for a while & this regression seems to have continued.
It's seems blowing Jason Rushton out in a round has convinced him he's some kind of kayo merchant, when at best he carries a respectable dig.
However to suggest the Brancalion fight was a waste of time is a bit bizarre.
The title has value even if the opponent is substandard. ok I see your point.... picking up the title has a point obviously... but the fighter he beat was retired after a 120 second loss. Thus the match and the title aren't that impressive. His win over Quigley holds more weight for me olly

ollyc
02-13-2010, 07:34 PM
ok I see your point.... picking up the title has a point obviously... but the fighter he beat was retired after a 120 second loss. Thus the match and the title aren't that impressive. His win over Quigley holds more weight for me olly

I agree that this isn't his most impressive win.
For me that would be the Oakey victory (even taking into consideration that Oakey took the fight on short notice).
The question I ask is who should he have fought if he didn't fight for the European title at this stage of his career?
The truth is he shouldn't fight any more British opponents until Bellew reaches his level of competition (which isn't to long hopefully); he's already cleaned out the domestic scene: Oakey, Fry, McIntosh & Boyle.
I'd have preferred it if he had a better co-challenger for the title, but for once that isn't ******'s fault.
Next time out i'd like to see him fight Murat as you suggested, but I doubt this'll happen considering Murat's the WBO's number 2 challenger for the light heavy title. (Hopkins is number 1, and Braehmer's going to jail, so I reckon Murat-Erdei will tkae place for the vacant title).

royalt0208
02-13-2010, 08:01 PM
How about most of Top Ranks early card.
Matt Korobov-Lamar Harris. Why is a former amateur star facing such poor opposition I thought he was going to be fastracked.
And Jose Benavidez he finished his opponent (0-2) in 1.