Calzaghe vs Glenn Cately/Dean Francis

[Boro chris]

Enjoy.:good

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[ollyc]

No doubt some might use this as evidence why Joe would've beaten Dean in the pro ranks as well, but Calzaghe was a good couple of years older than him, and was physically much more developed.
It was a case of pitting a man against a boy, as can happen in the ams.
And by his own admission Francis wasn't a great amateur either.

[Vantage_West]

if dean hadnt got in trouble with the law then blew to cruiser i think he would of given calzaghe some troubles.

[Mandanda]

Dean Francis was potential world class and that one night he just needed a win to get a shot and sadly got injured and it went downhill from there. Dean was class. I like to see him fight Tony Bellew if he drops back to light heavy.

[ollyc]

if dean hadnt got in trouble with the law then blew to cruiser i think he would of given calzaghe some troubles.

Dean's take on events was that he was only defending his sister's friend from some aggressive rugger types on a night out, and the judge went out of his way to make an example out of him.
Although like most I believe it was more the shoulder troubles which did for his world title aspirations.
He's still ranked number seven at light-heavy in the WBO's rankings, and whilst I believe he should stay retired, i'd still love to see him get a shot at that title should Cleverly win it in the near future.

[cityofgod]

i saw a video of froch vs inkin as amateurs...froch lost, but it showed exactly why he would have demolished him over 12 as a pro.

ams are ams... pros are pros

[DOM5153]

No doubt some might use this as evidence why Joe would've beaten Dean in the pro ranks as well, but Calzaghe was a good couple of years older than him, and was physically much more developed.
It was a case of pitting a man against a boy, as can happen in the ams.
And by his own admission Francis wasn't a great amateur either.

Joe would still beat Francis in the pro's imo, but francis was certainly a good enough fighter himself to go on to worlds titles:smoke

[atberry]

Francis punched very very naturally, and so could focus on power and velocity because accuracy just came anyway. He had a very good stiff left jab, too. When he matured and strengthened as a man towards mid-20s and sorted his diet out, that led to devastating punching, prior to the major shoulder problems.

He demolished Cornelius Carr, who Collins looked shit against. Same with Starie, who Calzaghe looked shit against.

[Boro chris]

Francis punched very very naturally, and so could focus on power and velocity because accuracy just came anyway. He had a very good stiff left jab, too. When he matured and strengthened as a man beyond mid-20s and sorted his diet out, that led to devastating punching, prior to the major shoulder problems.

He demolished Cornelius Carr, who Collins looked shit against. Same with Starie, who Calzaghe looked shit against.

Didn't know that he'd beaten Starie! Dean's career was a big disapointment. Shame.

[KCD]

Great videos:good

On a side note Francis has to be perhaps one of Britains biggest wasted talents.

I remember his career going down hill after the Undra White fight.

[brown bomber]

Calzaghe was a class above.

[atberry]

Didn't know that he'd beaten Starie! Dean's career was a big disapointment. Shame.
Frederic Seiller as well, knocked him clean out for the European title. Against Collins and Liles, and Kalambay and Rocchigiani, Seiller was still standing.

[Boro chris]

Frederic Seiller as well, knocked him clean out for the European title. Against Collins and Liles, and Kalambay and Rocchigiani, Seiller was still standing.

Fuck me what a waste!:-(

[TFFP]

It's pretty obvious he'd beat Dean Francis regardless. Completely different levels.

[ollyc]

It's pretty obvious he'd beat Dean Francis regardless. Completely different levels.

The thing is I disagree, but I know I have very little to base my opinion on other than my assumptions of what Dean would've become.
I was certain Dean was going to become a world champ who'd defend several times, unify and have a glorious career. So was Chris Sanigar, the poor sod.
Here's a great article, from what seems an eternity ago:
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[Gaz S]

I think Calzaghe would have always been a bit too much for Francis, but without being disrespectful or derogatory to Francis in any way, to me he's a fighter who has never lived up to his potential. I feel he could have achieved so much more than that he did, and be it for whatever reasons (the shoulder, etc) he didn't. Shame.

[StWerburghs]

The thing is I disagree, but I know I have very little to base my opinion on other than my assumptions of what Dean would've become.
I was certain Dean was going to become a world champ who'd defend several times, unify and have a glorious career. So was Chris Sanigar, the poor sod.
Here's a great article, from what seems an eternity ago:
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Well Sanigar was even more certain Haskins was going to be world champ. Hes desperate for a breakthrough fighter who can really put them on the map.
Catley got theret, but it didnt last long, im sure he thought he struck gold with haskins, and francis...wasnt meant to be tho.

Hopefully it will happen eventualy...Chris is a really top bloke, a genuine geezer!

Deans birthday today so dont wana slag him too much...happy B-day