Danny Green - Is he relevant to Aussie boxing and the world?

[dominator]

I was just checking the ESB world boxing ratings on the main forum, which had the following top 10 rankings for Cruiser and Light Heavy:

Cruiserweight
ESB Champ: (Vacant)
1. Steve Cunningham
2. Marco Huck
3. Zsolt Erdei
4. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
5. Victor Emilio Ramirez
6. Yoan Pablo Hernandez
7. Grigory Drozd
8. Giacobbe Fragomeni
9. Ola Afolabi
10. Denis Lebedev

Light-Heavyweight
ESB Champ: Chad Dawson
1. Bernard Hopkins
2. Jean Pascal
3. Glen Johnson
4. Tavoris Cloud
5. Gabriel Campillo
6. Adrian Diaconu
7. Behbut Shumenov
8. Karo Murat
9. Hugo Hernan Garray
10. Yussuf Mack

Here is the link to the thread:

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Danny Green seems to have taken on this escapade in trying to take on a few names in his final few years in the sport to piece together some sort of legacy and make some decent coin.

The latter, he is certainly doing and kudos to him for that.

The question is, does the sporting and boxing public of Australia care about what he is going about?

Secondly, does the world rate him as a legitimate force on the global scene at either Light Heavy or Cruiser?

I just find it bizarre that by fighting at just over light heavy, he is neither a light heavyweight or legitimate cruiserweight. I just can't figure where he fits into and whether he is considered a relevant fighter......

[pecks]

The Jones fight was good and was a bit of a shot in the arm for Aussie boxing, and Green himself.

The win did up his profile, though it will be quickly forgotten if he doesn't follow it through with anything significant.

[ashley]

Yeah...strange...he should be ranked at CW top 8 to 15

[Sydney Smutt]

My God! If he doesn't make the ESB ratings, he might as well give it away!!!

[shiner]

yeh they are really accurate, eg Garay has been retired for 12 months and still have him in there? I bet he must be devasted ESB don't rate him.

[ashley]

Yeah...strange...he should be ranked at CW top 8 to 15


LOL at Sydney :lol:

Come to think about it he should be ranked higher....maybe 4 to 8...sorry Danny :D

[flamengo]

Give Green his dues.. He picked up the IBO strap by belting a bloke that made no impact anywhere, yet defended the same belt against on of the games (until the excuses flowed) most respected ever talents. A match with Bhop was nearly cemented afterwards....

Unlike another local fighter, Green can ben given a lot of respect for chasing big names.. Where does he fit into the rating World wide??? Pretty bloody highly, as any fight is possible, just as garanteed $$$$$$$ for anyone he fights...

TeamRJJ's behaviour after the embarrasssing 1 round KO, is no better than ducking away to 154, and has no qualifications for anything, except doing the local game harm.

Green's probably only as good as his next win, although his last victory has given him more respect than anything Mandy has accomplished in the last 5 years. Yes, he's good for the local scene and anything that avails O/S.

[Francis75]

Give Green his dues.. He picked up the IBO strap by belting a bloke that made no impact anywhere, yet defended the same belt against on of the games (until the excuses flowed) most respected ever talents. A match with Bhop was nearly cemented afterwards....

Unlike another local fighter, Green can ben given a lot of respect for chasing big names.. Where does he fit into the rating World wide??? Pretty bloody highly, as any fight is possible, just as garanteed $$$$$$$ for anyone he fights...

TeamRJJ's behaviour after the embarrasssing 1 round KO, is no better than ducking away to 154, and has no qualifications for anything, except doing the local game harm.

Green's probably only as good as his next win, although his last victory has given him more respect than anything Mandy has accomplished in the last 5 years. Yes, he's good for the local scene and anything that avails O/S.

Yeah whatever.:patsch

[Bentchassis]

I hope he gets a shot at Tarver.

He'd have to be a chance and they wouldnt ignore him then that's for sure.

[Francis75]

QUESTION REGARDING THE IBO

When will Danny Green have to fight some sort of mandatory for his IBO cruiser belt. Surely he has to within 12 months or so and surely he must fight one of the IBO's top 5 contenders.

Does anyone know the criteria for Green's defences of his IBO belt.

[LeonMcS]

The IBO doesn't have mandatory defences from memory.

[ashley]

QUESTION REGARDING THE IBO

When will Danny Green have to fight some sort of mandatory for his IBO cruiser belt. Surely he has to within 12 months or so and surely he must fight one of the IBO's top 5 contenders.

Does anyone know the criteria for Green's defences of his IBO belt.


I will have a stab at it :lol:

Every second fight will be his mandatory....who am I kidding...I dont know :oops:

[perfect jet]

QUESTION REGARDING THE IBO

When will Danny Green have to fight some sort of mandatory for his IBO cruiser belt. Surely he has to within 12 months or so and surely he must fight one of the IBO's top 5 contenders.

Does anyone know the criteria for Green's defences of his IBO belt.

He's got nine months.

[Francis75]

The IBO doesn't have mandatory defences from memory.

Surely eventually Green MUST defend against someone/anyone in the IBO's top 10 at least. If he doesn't then the IBO is more of a joke than i previously thought. Green bought the title off them and fought a bum in Dominguez. I want to know when Green will face a legit top level cruiser for his joke of a title. Green is happy to parade himself around as a top cruiser so lets see him beat one.

[shanemfr]

Anyone can fight for the IBO belt from the look of the last 2 years.

[flamengo]

Yeah whatever.:patsch

Go and fuck your mother.

[Francis75]

He's got nine months.

Fair enough then but please please tell me he must fight a top 10 contender. Please please don't tell me it can be someone in their top 50 or so.

[Francis75]

Go and fuck your mother.

Stop following me around the forum knob jockey.:hi:

[perfect jet]

Fair enough then but please please tell me he must fight a top 10 contender. Please please don't tell me it can be someone in their top 50 or so.

Must be someone in their top 35. It can be someone in the top 50 if the other guy has won his last fight, hasn't been knocked out in two of his last four... and a bunch of other crap.

The IBO can enforce a mandatory defence whenever they want but as Leon said, they rarely do.

[buster007]

i don't see the point of the topic tbh.

have u not seen the million posts related to green through his upset win.

have u not noticed the abundant press ( locally and internationally )featuring green through his upset win.

surely that is your answer there.

and for the people bitching about green not fighting a legitimate cruiser opponent, he only just won the damn thing. u think he was gunna pass up all the cash from fighting jones just so he could say he has beaten a fair dinkum cruiser opponent. yeah, not likely.

and also green probably does not know if he will fight at that weight in future. he saw an opportunity to get a mediocre cruiser belt and figured why the fuck not. no drastic dieting. and it paid off big time. i'd doubt now he could care less about any criticism regarding the legitimacy of the title really.

we all know he hasn't ko'd a prime tyson etc.

when u can now generate the sort of cash that green can indeed do, u r a major figure in world boxing. it really doesnt matter too much about rankings either. we've all seen dodgy shit when it comes to some fighters and rankings, and getting title shots etc. so its more than likely about making cash.

and u know what, i don't care if they want another $50 out of me for a bout that's for a mediocre belt, as long as green is fighting somebody that deserves the $50, so to speak.

[flamengo]

Surely eventually Green MUST defend against someone/anyone in the IBO's top 10 at least. If he doesn't then the IBO is more of a joke than i previously thought. Green bought the title off them and fought a bum in Dominguez. I want to know when Green will face a legit top level cruiser for his joke of a title. Green is happy to parade himself around as a top cruiser so lets see him beat one.

You really a just a 15 y/o little girl.

All the questions in your post, you'd have been able tp ask Phil on this forum. All the question's for Ray Kelly you'd have been able to ask him also..

But no.. YOU and Spidiot seem move intent in keeping these guys off the forum. If you'd like to know about Danny Green, just contact his managment.. It's not rocket science fuck head. :nono

[Francis75]

Must be someone in their top 35. It can be someone in the top 50 if the other guy has won his last fight, hasn't been knocked out in a two of his last four... and a bunch of other crap.

The IBO can enforce a mandatory defence whenever they want but as Leon said, they rarely do.

Thanks for the info but the IBO is a farce if Green doesn't have to EVER fight one of their top 5 or 10 guys.

[Francis75]

You really a just a 15 y/o little girl.

All the questions in your post, you'd have been able tp ask Phil on this forum. All the question's for Ray Kelly you'd have been able to ask him also..

But no.. YOU and Spidiot seem move intent in keeping these guys off the forum. If you'd like to know about Danny Green, just contact his managment.. It's not rocket science fuck head. :nono

Seriously why are you following me around the forum ? Are you cranky because i'm pointing out the farce that is Danny Green's IBO cruiserweight title ? I think your cranky because you need your homecare nurse to change your sanitary pad.:yep

If something is a farce then i'm going to call it a farce. Green's Ibo title is a farce and Mundine being able to healthily make 154 is also a farce.

[flamengo]

Thanks for the info but the IBO is a farce if Green doesn't have to EVER fight one of their top 5 or 10 guys.

I'll be fucked.. you said something that makes sense.

That would prove the IBO and all Governing bodies farcical... except certain allowances are quite often make. Take a look at Tszyu's defences. I dont think he fought much more than once/year over the last 5 years... Green will continue chasing big names for a title defence, dont worry about that.

Hopefully we see Green belt the next two opponents sooner than later.

[luds]

Greens win against jones was lucky,but sure he can put it in his resume.
Good luck to him,but talking shit about fighting tyson or holyfield ffs.
That shows he was just chasing names.

[flamengo]

Greens win against jones was lucky,but sure he can put it in his resume.
Good luck to him,but talking shit about fighting tyson or holyfield ffs.
That shows he was just chasing names.

No Luds... Bhop and Tarver are the fights I'm talking about.

F75.. stop sulking.

[luds]

explain siaca

[roscoe]

I can't see the hate on Green by fighting & doing the impossible by stopping a legend in 1 rd, then wanting to fight the likes of Hopkins & Tarver. He's definately not one of my favs but I give a man his dues when he asks for the top names. Dawson is so overrated its not funny so don't give me grief there. Hopkins beat Tarver more convincingly then both Roy or Dawson. And lets not forget the annihilation of Pavlik. Fuck age Hopkins got better with age & I'd still pick him ot beat Dawson over 12 rds.

[luds]

I can't see the hate on Green by fighting & doing the impossible by stopping a legend in 1 rd, then wanting to fight the likes of Hopkins & Tarver. He's definately not one of my favs but I give a man his dues when he asks for the top names. Dawson is so overrated its not funny so don't give me grief there. Hopkins beat Tarver more convincingly then both Roy or Dawson. And lets not forget the annihilation of Pavlik. Fuck age Hopkins got better with age & I'd still pick him ot beat Dawson over 12 rds.



Roscoe can you explain how it was impossible for green to stop rjj.

[Bentchassis]

I can't see the hate on Green by fighting & doing the impossible by stopping a legend in 1 rd, then wanting to fight the likes of Hopkins & Tarver. He's definately not one of my favs but I give a man his dues when he asks for the top names. Dawson is so overrated its not funny so don't give me grief there. Hopkins beat Tarver more convincingly then both Roy or Dawson. And lets not forget the annihilation of Pavlik. Fuck age Hopkins got better with age & I'd still pick him ot beat Dawson over 12 rds.
Dunno, Hopkins got hit heaps more than usual last fight. There's a time limit for everybody even the legend himself.

I say he does Roy over then calls it a day. Leave Dawson alone just in case.

[roscoe]

Luds name me one fight that Danny won in which I could of used an honest unbias anlaysis that could make me possibly think that he could of done what he did.

I know your a mad mandy fan like Ash so you can see where I'm coming from. Its similar as saying if I said Ottke would of Koed mandy before the fight with only 6 ko's to his win record of 30+ win fights.

[ashley]

Luds name me one fight that Danny won in which I could of used an honest unbias anlaysis that could make me possibly think that he could of done what he did.

I know your a mad mandy fan like Ash so you can see where I'm coming from. Its similar as saying if I said Ottke would of Koed mandy before the fight with only 6 ko's to his win record of 30+ win fights.


I have no F$#@#% idea of what your talking about....apart from that part where you called me a nut hugger :yep....by the way...are you up for a beer or 12 in Rocky Monday arvo :hey

[roscoe]

Ash my man, can't get there mate, going swine hunting monday night. Talking to CD teh other day keen for another fishing trip, keep ya posted.
I was just trying to give luds an answer as to why I thought Danny koing Roy in 1 rd was so hard to believe.

[ashley]

Ash my man, can't get there mate, going swine hunting monday night. Talking to CD teh other day keen for another fishing trip, keep ya posted.
I was just trying to give luds an answer as to why I thought Danny koing Roy in 1 rd was so hard to believe.

Come on mate...must be a few pigs in Rocky as well :hey ....just jokes...say Hi to the family :hi:

I will be heading back Thursday or Friday night so keep that in mind :good

[DaSweetScience]

The Jones fight was good and was a bit of a shot in the arm for Aussie boxing, and Green himself.

The win did up his profile, though it will be quickly forgotten if he doesn't follow it through with anything significant.

The follow up is critical. No one remembers Kevin McBride who whipped the baddest man on the planet in similar circumstances.

[left jab danny]

Greens win against jones was lucky,but sure he can put it in his resume.
Good luck to him,but talking shit about fighting tyson or holyfield ffs.
That shows he was just chasing names.

I know you like to talk shit..thats what your best at:yep
So i guess theres no chance of you posting a link were Danny said he'd fight Tyson or Holyfield?
Didn't think so.
The H man is responsible for some outlandish comments about Dannys opponents but hes a mad hatter and you have to take his remarks with a pinch of salt...its just like kohder saying choc is going to take on pavlik or sturm it gets chocs name in the paper but nobody really believes it except for the cunts who know fuck all:hi:
I think you sit comfortable under that umbrella.

[sallywinder]

The IBO doesn't have mandatory defences from memory.

:yep

dont have real champions either....:yep

[buster007]

danny got lucky? lol

sour grapes.

miserable bastard.

green could become undisputed heavyweight champ and some people would still try and dis him, lol.

[flamengo]

The follow up is critical. No one remembers Kevin McBride who whipped the baddest man on the planet in similar circumstances.

Good point DSS.. and fewer remember the Baddest Man on the Planet, for the brilliant fighter he once was. The tail end of Tysons career has blemished his incredible ability.

[Farmboxer]

Will Green fight again?

[buster007]

if he makes shitloads of money he probably wont care anyway. he has his name in the history books. but i know what u r saying yeah.