This came from Frank ******'s mouth today.....

[Ding]

"Darnell is too dangerous, and we would fight him only if we had to. I make to much money with this guy, he's a big ticket seller and its just not worth it."

I respect him for coming right out and saying it, but I'm still fukkin pissed about it.:twisted:

I might have a stay busy fight in november, but I dont want that shit. I was in high hopes for this opportunity.


All this BS about how he will beat me easily, I dont wanna read that shit for a while, cause team Enzo sure as fuck dont believe it!!!!

[brooklyn1550]

With the punch you carry and the chin you have, you're a HUGE risk to any title holder. It looks like you might be forced to take a Hagler-like road to a title shot.

That's bullshit...hopefully you get a title shot in early or mid 2008

[box03]

That sucks Ding, hopefully you could get a warmup fight next month then try and get the winner of Mormeck/Haye.

[Sai]

That sucks man. Thatd be a fight Id like to see. Dont rate the chances at the Mormeck/Haye winner though, cos Haye will head to heavy regardless of the result and Mormeck could be a hard one to sign too.

[Kegsy]

Ding wins by KO against Enzo Maccarinelli:deal

[C Money]

Dont let this shit fuk with you:nono Politics of a BS Reality:good

Whats a Champ to do?? Get another decent opponent and take it out on his ass:yep

There are four Champs, one of em gotta fight ya. Stayin busy keeps condition and focus, they cant hide, slip, and dodge forever.

[bigtime9]

"Darnell is too dangerous, and we would fight him only if we had to. I make to much money with this guy, he's a big ticket seller and its just not worth it."

I respect him for coming right out and saying it, but I'm still fukkin pissed about it.:twisted:

I might have a stay busy fight in november, but I dont want that shit. I was in high hopes for this opportunity.


All this BS about how he will beat me easily, I dont wanna read that shit for a while, cause team Enzo sure as fuck dont believe it!!!!


'come on ding man what did you expect from a mofo like frank ******. I love your fights and think you can excel as the best at your weight. stay in the gym (unlike jermain taylor) and no one at your weight can touch you.:good

[K_Ologist]

"Darnell is too dangerous, and we would fight him only if we had to. I make to much money with this guy, he's a big ticket seller and its just not worth it."

I respect him for coming right out and saying it, but I'm still fukkin pissed about it.:twisted:

I might have a stay busy fight in november, but I dont want that shit. I was in high hopes for this opportunity.

All this BS about how he will beat me easily, I dont wanna read that shit for a while, cause team Enzo sure as fuck dont believe it!!!!

I think your KO of the year nominee has them all scared shitless, I know it scared me.:yikes

[MrStayman]

You're too high risk, too low reward right now. Just keep growing your fan base with those KOs, and the reward will keep increasing :good

[emanuel_augustus]

"Darnell is too dangerous, and we would fight him only if we had to. I make to much money with this guy, he's a big ticket seller and its just not worth it."

I respect him for coming right out and saying it, but I'm still fukkin pissed about it.

I might have a stay busy fight in november, but I dont want that shit. I was in high hopes for this opportunity.


All this BS about how he will beat me easily, I dont wanna read that shit for a while, cause team Enzo sure as fuck dont believe it!!!!

What'd you expect Ding? They're going to put you in with a guy who could make a HUGE payday in the UK against Haye if he beats Mormeck just because you called him out?

It was a nice try, but you couldn't really think they'd just send you a contract.

I would think you'll pretty much have to beat another top contender and force a sanctioning body to push you into a mandatory.

[boxbox]

Cant blame them Ding! You're scary!! lolz!

they said they'll fight you if they "had to"..- how can we make this happen??

[Kolya]

"Darnell is too dangerous, and we would fight him only if we had to. I make to much money with this guy, he's a big ticket seller and its just not worth it."

I respect him for coming right out and saying it, but I'm still fukkin pissed about it.:twisted:

I might have a stay busy fight in november, but I dont want that shit. I was in high hopes for this opportunity.


All this BS about how he will beat me easily, I dont wanna read that shit for a while, cause team Enzo sure as fuck dont believe it!!!!

It's bullshit man, but I guess that's some shit you're going to run into a lot until you get a bit more famous. I'm in Laurel right now, so maybe I'll see you at the gym and hear first hand what's up.

[Ding]

It's bullshit man, but I guess that's some shit you're going to run into a lot until you get a bit more famous. I'm in Laurel right now, so maybe I'll see you at the gym and hear first hand what's up.


I'll be in there sparring tomorrow.:thumbsup

[Kolya]

I'll be in there sparring tomorrow.:thumbsup

Who with; when? I was gonna swing by during the day to say hi to Rock if he's there and see if I can pay to work out for the next 10 days or so, so maybe I'll see you...I'm the really tall thin white guy. :lol:

[Zakman]

"Darnell is too dangerous, and we would fight him only if we had to. I make to much money with this guy, he's a big ticket seller and its just not worth it."

I respect him for coming right out and saying it, but I'm still fukkin pissed about it.:twisted:

I hate to say it guy, but I can't say I'm surprised. Clearly they know as well as we do what would happen to their man if he got in the ring with you. :nod

Now, even the doubters should know. :yep

[KO Boxing]

Bad luck champ. It's an absolute injustice if you don't get a title shot in 2008...

Not surprised to see those few that actually picked Enzo in this match up have steared WELL clear of this thread...

[SteveO]

Ding just keep knockin' em down and out.

In a way, its probably a compliment to have people too scared to fight you. But I'm sure its frustrating as all hell, too. Sorry about that.

By the way, if you ever fight in Michigan, I'll come out with my buds to see you. You're a class act.

[unclepaulie]

Its too bad that some promoters treat boxers like an attraction instead of a fighter. Frank ****** should be worried about promoting a stable of champions, not worrying about maximizing ticket sales. Its too bad you had to be the victim here.

[bigeddie27]

"Darnell is too dangerous, and we would fight him only if we had to. I make to much money with this guy, he's a big ticket seller and its just not worth it."

I respect him for coming right out and saying it, but I'm still fukkin pissed about it.:twisted:

I might have a stay busy fight in november, but I dont want that shit. I was in high hopes for this opportunity.


All this BS about how he will beat me easily, I dont wanna read that shit for a while, cause team Enzo sure as fuck dont believe it!!!!
well what more would you expect out of ****** really. look at his other cash cows. thats why no one really respects his fighters until they leave him (like hatten). He is a piece of shit, but a good businessman. you have to respect him for that. I cannot believe he actually admitted it though, thats crazy. Just keep doing your thing man, make yourself the draw. WE the fans know what is up, and will pay for it.

on another note, use this to your advantage. Call that pussy fuck out every chance you get. Remember how tarver got his shot with Roy? he antogonized him at press conferences etc.. Go to his press conference and call him a bitch who hides behind ******. Hit his pride. Goad him into something.

[41fever]

Sooner or later all the top dogs in the division gonna meet their destruction in your fists, just stay busy in the gym and your roadwork...I can't wait to see you live in action...keep up the great work DING, God Bless You

[philby]

Jesus wept!! I am tired of all the nuthugging!! I'll say it before any body else does, your full of it Ding!! I hope somone dings your dong!!:-(

[Dr Gonzo]

Jesus wept!! I am tired of all the nuthugging!! I'll say it before any body else does, your full of it Ding!! I hope somone dings your dong!!:-(

the guy is a breath of fresh air in the cruiser weight division - exciting and talented - and deserves his chance

what have you done lately numb nuts?

[bigeddie27]

the guy is a breath of fresh air in the cruiser weight division - exciting and talented - and deserves his chance

what have you done lately numb nuts?

hate on someone through the internet. You would never think the hate would be so potent behind a keyboard, but, I guess that's what being anonymous gives us.

[philby]

Im not hatting i just cant understand all the man love for a guy who is so far up himself he's inside out!:roll: :rofl

[bigeddie27]

Im not hatting i just cant understand all the man love for a guy who is so far up himself he's inside out!:roll: :rofl

your not gonna try to convince us. go back to your hatorade.

[philby]

Cant convince you till you get your member out of the mans september:hi:

[bigeddie27]

Cant convince you till you get your member out of the mans september:hi:

bro i get more pussy in one week than you have got your whole life. And the really sad part is, you know its true deep down inside.

[sean]

never liked ******, persoanally i would like wilson v macranelli to happen as good style match up.

still say macrannelli has the style to win quite easily.

but as to making the fight trouble wilson has is he is an american and the money at cruiserweight is in europe.

i beleive huck will beat cunningham, haye will beat mormeck (2 belts ?), macrannelli will beat john doe .

that would leave all the belts in europe.

haye said he will move straight up to heavyweight if he wins so vacant belts will be on the line next year for 4 boxers if that scenario plays out .

[Axe]

Enzo would beat you imo, but you more than deserve the shot.

Looks like you'll have to become the mandatory for the WBO. Shouldn't be too hard, you are top ten material. :good

[Shake]

You just hit too damn hard, Ding. Fight a few light-heavies and carry them to a decision -- people will be lining up to give you a shot! :thumbsup

[ozziebattler]

You just hit too damn hard, Ding. Fight a few light-heavies and carry them to a decision -- people will be lining up to give you a shot! :thumbsup

Fuck taking them the distance..

Keep knocking blokes out in brutal style and the big fights will have to come your way.

Money talks in the fight game.

Whoever can generate the big bucks gets the big fights..

So keep producing ko's of the year and you will see big fights coming your way...

Cant wait to see you knock enzo manboobs out...

[dragosuhail]

:lol: so bigtime, jermaine taylor didn't stay in the gym. and THAT's why he lost? keep dreamin' :lol:

[Fat Tony]

"Darnell is too dangerous, and we would fight him only if we had to. I make to much money with this guy, he's a big ticket seller and its just not worth it."

I respect him for coming right out and saying it, but I'm still fukkin pissed about it.:twisted:

I might have a stay busy fight in november, but I dont want that shit. I was in high hopes for this opportunity.


All this BS about how he will beat me easily, I dont wanna read that shit for a while, cause team Enzo sure as fuck dont believe it!!!!

Source?

Sorry, but I don't think that Enzo has to be afraid of you.
Enzo would win in a one-sided fight.

[Words]

Sorry to hear this Ding. Your not the first good fighter to be ducked by a Frank ****** protected "champion" so dont worry. Your time will come. You might wanna be a bit moer gentle when knocking the fuck outta guys in the future, that Nwodo KO was enough to scare every money-grabbing promoter in the world.

And for all the people who make accusations of nuthugging, YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT ENTIRELY! This is about more than just wether Ding can beat Enzo. For the record I would favour Enzo in this fight coz of the height/reach advantage. But thats not the point. The thing that pisses me off is how money-grabbing self-interested promoters are more interested in making money than making good fights! It is this attitude that is crippling the sport of boxing, and here we have a professional boxer telling us this straight of the fucking press, and all some people can do is name-call and talk shit! Thats not the point. Enzo Mac is supposed to be a champion, but his management are depriving him, and us, of the championship quality fights a guy like Enzo ought to be having. I dont enjoy watching a fight where the outcome is obvious before the fight begins, and we all know that when they announce the opponent for Enzo's next fight it'll most likely be someone who doesnt pose a threat at all.

Ding poses a threat, and he offers the potential for a good fight where the outcome is not a forgone conclusion, but he's being screwed out of a shot for the sake of earning money. That is a travesty and boxing fans tolerate far too much of this shit.

All I can say is I hope Ding can get a fight with David Haye once Haye wins the cruiserweight title. Wilson - Haye is a fight that I'd kill to see. Two ferocious power-punchers fighting for a PROPER undisputed world championship. Best of luck ding.

[ThePlugInBabies]

whilst i totally respect ding and it's great that we have a pro boxer posting on here, some of you really need to get off his nuts.

by november haye will be the daddy of this weight :yep

[ThePlugInBabies]

I hate to say it guy, but I can't say I'm surprised. Clearly they know as well as we do what would happen to their man if he got in the ring with you. :nod

Now, even the doubters should know. :yep

LOL OMGZ!!!!!!!11111ONEONE11111ONE!!!!!!1

HE GOT KNOCKED OUT WHEN HE WAS 19, CHINA!!!!1111 GLASS!!!!ONE

OBVIOUSLY HE HASN'T IMPROVED SINCE THEN SO HE'LL GET KNOCKED OUT BY ANYONE WHO CAN THROW A PUNCH!!!!!!!!!11111ONE

you really need to change the fucking record.

[ozziebattler]

I think Enzo would smash you to pieces, however that is my opinion & I am entitled to it.

Do you not feel that alot of people on here are sucking up to you because you post on this site?

Nah manboobs maccaroni wouldnt smash the ding to pieces.

One ding on maccaroni's button and its over..

Enzo can go back to eating his pasta and meatballza...

Ding to fight haye and send david back to modelling clothes worn by rich fags.

Save this people as in 18mnths time this will become fact...

[ThePlugInBabies]

Nah manboobs maccaroni wouldnt smash the ding to pieces.

One ding on maccaroni's button and its over..

Enzo can go back to eating his pasta and meatballza...

Ding to fight haye and send david back to modelling clothes worn by rich fags.

Save this people as in 18mnths time this will become fact...

unless ding and his team bring some serious money to the table, haye is fucking off to heavy after the mormeck fight. cruiser is getting too hard to make for him now. but if it did happen, haye would school ding :deal

[ThePlugInBabies]

hehe you can tell you're an ozzie (translation = wanker)

In 18 months time Haye will be Heavyweight Champion of the World, and Enzo will have had a good go at unifying the divison (which admittedly is a very tough task).

and Ding will still be crying on this site

and you will still be sucking his arsehole for it

Save this people as I'm 60% right, 70% of the time.:yep

:nono i'm a big haye fan, but this ain't happening. i can see him winning a strap but that is all. he is good for the division though, he's a great bloke and an extremely exciting fighter.

[ThePlugInBabies]

winning a strap does not make you world heavyweight champion.

a titlist and one of the better guys, but not the champ.

[sean]

haye will need 4 or 5 fights to get a title shot at heavy and thats IF he beats mormeck and does not need rebuilding.

[surreal deal]

I think your KO of the year nominee has them all scared shitless, I know it scared me.:yikes
do you have a link?
sorry to hear that Ding mate.fukn politics.
'champs' should take risks.that comes with the belt.

[rydersonthestorm]

How will haye need four or five fight's at heavyweight to get a title shot, if he is the undisputed cruiserweight champ with don king promoting his last fight i can't see many people in front of him for a shot at one of the titles.

[rydersonthestorm]

Also ding i think your a great fighter but calling out enzo when haye and mormeck are the top men in the division makes it seem like your looking for an easier fight to get a title, the same thing that you accuse ****** of doing.

[sean]

he will have relinquished his cruiseweight belts.

don king has done fuck all for european fighters , sitting on them and boring them to tears with there lack of activity in the ring.

king has let many european champs he controollled stew for over a year without a single fight and they all left him.

but i digress
haye is not a king fighter and king cannot get options on haye as mormeck fight is a mandatory.

[rydersonthestorm]

I am not on about king getting options, he is a big name promoter still and will try and get good coverage for this fight rather than a european promoter like ****** etc who are more bothered about protecting fighters. Also maloney is haye's promoter and he seemed to be able to get lewis the big fights so i don't see why he would struggle with haye, who is a much more exciting and marketable fighter. Also even if he gives the belts up he is still the recognised cruiserweight champ if he wins, maybe not on the abc side of things but still recognised and with is power and style he is an easy fighter to market against the current crop of heavyweights.

[sean]

I am not on about king getting options, he is a big name promoter still and will try and get good coverage for this fight rather than a european promoter like ****** etc who are more bothered about protecting fighters. Also maloney is haye's promoter and he seemed to be able to get lewis the big fights so i don't see why he would struggle with haye, who is a much more exciting and marketable fighter. Also even if he gives the belts up he is still the recognised cruiserweight champ if he wins, maybe not on the abc side of things but still recognised and with is power and style he is an easy fighter to market against the current crop of heavyweights.

still do not understand you reasoning.

haye v mormeck as far as i am aware at the moment is not being picked up by sky or itv.

it is not going out in the usa, but on canal plus in france.

haye would not sign to fight macrannelli because of the options ****** put on the table stipulating haye would fight skelton/williams/sprott etc etc if he won.

why would then haye tie himself to king and not ******.

fighting big name heavys costs a lot of money if you want home advantage , or for them to fight you.

what about the money behind /dimetrenko/povetkin/boystov/virchis/etc etc.
IMO haye will not automatically shoot to the top of the list hence i said 4 to 5 fights.

[ron u.k.]

i think ding is becoming overrated on here and maccaranelli underrated.

[BOOKA]

Ding, I'm afraid I still pick Enzo to beat you, just cause ****** isn't keen on the fight doesn't mean you still wouldn't lose if it did happen.
Enzo is no bum.

[rydersonthestorm]

Haye vs mormeck fight was annoucned yesterday so i am pretty sure it will be on sky, as cotto vs mosley is on satanta. I mentioned nothing about him tying himself to king, however don king is a big name in america and using his influence he should be able to get the fight seen in america as it will make him more money. In regards to fighting at home, haye is quite happy to fight anywhere unlike alot of british fighter's hence fighting in mormecks home nation.
Also haye is a more excitin fighter than any you mentioned, note i am not saying better but he will be alot easier to market. Also maloney seemed to be able to get the big fight's for lewis so why are you doubting the money behind haye.

[sean]

i think ding is becoming overrated on here and maccaranelli underrated.

i agree.
to many youngsters fawning.

style`s make fights, and macrannelli has the style to outbox ding and the power to keep ding honest.


would ****** think along the lines stated.
of course.

[sean]

Haye vs mormeck fight was annoucned yesterday so i am pretty sure it will be on sky, as cotto vs mosley is on satanta. I mentioned nothing about him tying himself to king, however don king is a big name in america and using his influence he should be able to get the fight seen in america as it will make him more money. In regards to fighting at home, haye is quite happy to fight anywhere unlike alot of british fighter's hence fighting in mormecks home nation.
Also haye is a more excitin fighter than any you mentioned, note i am not saying better but he will be alot easier to market. Also maloney seemed to be able to get the big fight's for lewis so why are you doubting the money behind haye.

maloney was not the one putting up the money when he signed lewis.

[boxfan99]

"Darnell is too dangerous, and we would fight him only if we had to. I make to much money with this guy, he's a big ticket seller and its just not worth it."

I respect him for coming right out and saying it, but I'm still fukkin pissed about it.:twisted:

I might have a stay busy fight in november, but I dont want that shit. I was in high hopes for this opportunity.


All this BS about how he will beat me easily, I dont wanna read that shit for a while, cause team Enzo sure as fuck dont believe it!!!!

They would never have too because ****** literally owns WBO!

Enzo is just as overprotected as all ******s fighters/moneymakers/WBO warriors.
Do you know ****** offered Johny Jensen to fight Enzo on the Calzaghe-Kessler undercard?:-( It seems to me like ****** wants to make Enzo look good on a very very cheap background, because Enzo would trash the useless Jensen in 2-3 rounds without breaking a sweat.

Too bad ******/Enzo don't dare go through with fights where Enzo actually could risk losing such as against Haye and yes, Ding.;)

[rydersonthestorm]

Yes but he got him the fight's and haye is a very marketable guy, big puncher, used to be a model, rumoured to be dating kylie minogue etc etc, how hard is it to get backers for a guy like that.

[boxfan99]

Cant blame them Ding! You're scary!! lolz!

they said they'll fight you if they "had to"..- how can we make this happen??

We can't, because WBO doesn't operate with mandatories.:lol: Just ask Calzaghe who has had TWO, against the same fighter, in ten years!:roll:

[Words]

still do not understand you reasoning.

haye v mormeck as far as i am aware at the moment is not being picked up by sky or itv.

it is not going out in the usa, but on canal plus in france.

haye would not sign to fight macrannelli because of the options ****** put on the table stipulating haye would fight skelton/williams/sprott etc etc if he won.

why would then haye tie himself to king and not ******.

fighting big name heavys costs a lot of money if you want home advantage , or for them to fight you.

what about the money behind /dimetrenko/povetkin/boystov/virchis/etc etc.
IMO haye will not automatically shoot to the top of the list hence i said 4 to 5 fights.

Simple. If he ties his career to ******, after beating Enzo he gets stuck on the british havyweight merry-go-round fighting Williams and Sprott and Skelton. That is a dead end for him and he knows it. Why would he want to fuck around with those guys? Haye is also a risk taker, he took challenging fights early in his career and hasnt been overly protected, which goes against the Frank ****** philosophy completely.

Don King on the otherhand WILL get you a title shot. Maybe not the undisputed lineal title, but a title nontheless. He got Andrew Golota and Fres fucking Oquendo title shots didn't he? Its not like they had to do much to deserve it.

If Haye wins the WBC cruiserweight championship then he's in a strong position to challenge for that Heavyweight title. He'll probably be automatically top 10 coz Tomaz Bonin was ranked 11 when he beat him. So lets look at the top 15 in the WBC rankings.

1 .- Samuel Peter (Nigeria) NABF
2 .- Vladimir Virchis (Ukraine) EBU
3 .- Oliver McCall (US) INTL
4 .- Hasim Rahman (US) NABF/Interim
5 .- Juan Carlos Gomez (Cuba) LATINO
6 .- Nicolay Valuev (Russia)
7 .- Alexander Dimitrenko (Ukraine)
8 .- Donnell Holmes (US)
9 .- Alexander Povetkin (Russia)
10 .- David Tua (New Zealand)
11 .- Calvin Brock (US)
12 .- Chris Arreola (US)
13 .- Chris Byrd (US)
14 .- Michael Moorer (US)
15 .- JD Chapman (US) LATINO/Interim

Lets just assume that Oleg Maskaev isn't gonna be champion for much longer. He's gonna get stripped or beaten by Sam Peter at some point. Looking at those rankings, who does he have to beat to get a title shot? Calvin Brock? Hasim Rahman? the winner of Juan Carlos Gomez - Oliver McCall II? Alexander Povetkin perhaps? thats 2 or 3 fights before he's the no.1 contender if you ask me. Those names would be great fights. Haye stands a good chance against all of 'em. If he bombs out someone like Rahman or Gomez then he's gonna be pretty high on the list.

[duran83]

"Darnell is too dangerous, and we would fight him only if we had to. I make to much money with this guy, he's a big ticket seller and its just not worth it."

I respect him for coming right out and saying it, but I'm still fukkin pissed about it.:twisted:

I might have a stay busy fight in november, but I dont want that shit. I was in high hopes for this opportunity.


All this BS about how he will beat me easily, I dont wanna read that shit for a while, cause team Enzo sure as fuck dont believe it!!!!

So he did he actully say this to?? Or did you dream this?

[The Kurgan]

a guy who is so far up himself he's inside out!:roll: :rofl

You just described every single boxer (and successful athelete) ever. NO ONE could possibly get into the ring and fight world class boxers unless they had an ego the size of Russia. Combine that with the fact that Ding has a LOT of things to be cocky about (an iron chin, massive power, underrated skills, killer instinct etc.) and it's totally understandable.

In fact, I can't think of many boxers with as much talent as Ding and such a realistic sense of their abilities.

[Smith]

Bullshit......Enzo would never back down from you pal, but you believe what youre team keep saying if it helps you're ego.

Enzo TKO Darnell round 9

[David UK]

Sorry to hear you didn't get the fight Ding, but not surprised. Don't blame Enzo, blame ******. The bloke is a complete wanker and terrible for British boxing. I was so pleased when Hatton left him.

Calzaghe is coming towards the end of his career and ****** only has Enzo and Khan left as big ticket sellers. He won't risk either against a big puncher.

I happen to think Enzo would have too much for Ding, but ****** wants a 99% chance of a win, not a 70% chance

[Bigcat]

Darnell, Maccrinelli is very limited and has a solid punch but just second rate skills behind it.. He has to be supplied with either names that are slightly past thier sell by date or fighters who are just not that well thought of..

Brathwaight was great in 2001 but over time lost his passion and that is exactly why Frank shipped him over for Enzo.. He is a manufactured statuesque fighter.. Strong and durable.. He ain't no classical or scientific championship athlete.. Just a very solid young live guy..

You will be the last man on their adgenda......

But patience is a vertue .. You will be crowned soon..

And you know it.. It was writen..

[Brickhaus]

He's already been stripped to my knowedge matey.

He wasn't stripped, they made Peter interim champ, but Maskaev still has his belt.

This is what ****** is. He protects his fighters to the point where he won't let them fight anyone who even has a chance at winning (unless he feels it's time to cash out with them), and Ding always has a puncher's chance. I agree that Mac probably wins by UD (too good of a boxer and should be able to score points unless he gets sloppy and lets Ding tag him), and I even agree that letting Mac actually fight the top tier fighters probably makes ****** more money in the long run, but that's just where the financial incentives lie.

The real bitch of it all is that there are plenty of scrubs ranked in the top 15 of each sanctioning body, so the better fighters won't even feel the pressure to fight Ding in an effort to move up since there are crappier fighters they could target to move up.

[Mrvooh]

I think if the Dingster ( Ding ) LOST, he would be like Peter vs Wlad...If he won, it would be like Pavlik vs Taylor...only the KO would be earlier IMO:hi:

[Ding]

Also ding i think your a great fighter but calling out enzo when haye and mormeck are the top men in the division makes it seem like your looking for an easier fight to get a title, the same thing that you accuse ****** of doing.



Let me help you out with this one... Enzo has a fight coming up and is saying that no one will step up to fight him.

The fight with Mormeck is the one I want the most, but he is fighting november 10th. So how would it look if I was calling out Mormeck knowing I couldn't possibly get a fight with him anytime soon?? :good

[Ding]

I think Enzo would smash you to pieces, however that is my opinion & I am entitled to it.

Do you not feel that alot of people on here are sucking up to you because you post on this site?


Wow, man you're good. Now the trick is to get team Enzo to believe that as well and we'll have a fight on our hands.:thumbsup

[rydersonthestorm]

What happens if haye beats mormeck what will you do then?
Also i have no doubts ****** is ducking you but calling out the none best ranked fighter in the cruiserweight division to get an easier title is only the same as what ****** does.

[Ding]

Sorry to hear you didn't get the fight Ding, but not surprised. Don't blame Enzo, blame ******. The bloke is a complete wanker and terrible for British boxing. I was so pleased when Hatton left him.

Calzaghe is coming towards the end of his career and ****** only has Enzo and Khan left as big ticket sellers. He won't risk either against a big puncher.

I happen to think Enzo would have too much for Ding, but ****** wants a 99% chance of a win, not a 70% chance



Too much what???:think

[Kolya]

I don't doubt for a second Enzo believes that he'd smash you to pieces also, it's Frank ****** who you've quoted if my memory serves me correctly.

Does it ever bother you that you have all these guys on here sucking up to you?

I don't even think it's sucking up so much as guys supporting one of our own. Shit; guys on here support everyone basically who fights pro. Mark De Mori is probably not known at all in the USA but when he posts American posters still respect his opinion and his thoughts on things. I can personally say I like Darnell because he's an exciting fighter, from the area I'm from, with trainers I used to work with. The first time I walked into my old gym in Maryland, there were Darnell Wilson posters from his early days on the wall.

[samita]

Does it ever bother you that you have all these guys on here sucking up to you?
why you think guys here are sucking up to him? he's a great boxer with a very entertaining and exciting style, whats so wrong about rooting for a guy like this?

[Ding]

I don't doubt for a second Enzo believes that he'd smash you to pieces also, it's Frank ****** who you've quoted if my memory serves me correctly.

Does it ever bother you that you have all these guys on here sucking up to you?



If you read most of "all these guys" post, you wont find any of them saying that I'm the best ever. It's just that with my attributes(chin, shock power and desire) and the way the aformentioned fighters have been beat prior, they fancy my chances at winning a world title. Also, the common opponents I share with Mormeck and Oneil Bell have said that I'm a more deadlier puncher than those two.

I can only say but so much. When I have my opportunity, you'll see.
What makes fights is people having different views of the outcome, and I'm cool with that. Its just that when people say a paticular fighter will destroy me easily and I'm will to go to his home country to fight him for short money, It pisses me the fuck off, thats all.:good

[GazOC]

Ding, I just checked your record on Boxrec. Whats the story behind those four consecutive loses? Did you have distractions/ things going on at that point in your life?

[Ding]

Ding, I just checked your record on Boxrec. Whats the story behind those four consecutive loses? Did you have distractions/ things going on at that point in your life?




If you do a search with my name, you should be able to find a detailed post with everything that had occured(too much to type again,lol). Whether you believe it or not is strictly at your discretion of course. Just remember in boxing, you're only as good as your last fight.

[rydersonthestorm]

How come you decided to bulk up so much when you where a much smaller amateur fighter?

[Alcaldemb]

"Darnell is too dangerous, and we would fight him only if we had to. I make to much money with this guy, he's a big ticket seller and its just not worth it."

I respect him for coming right out and saying it, but I'm still fukkin pissed about it.:twisted:

I might have a stay busy fight in november, but I dont want that shit. I was in high hopes for this opportunity.


All this BS about how he will beat me easily, I dont wanna read that shit for a while, cause team Enzo sure as fuck dont believe it!!!!

Ding why don't you look into a fight with Marco Huck, who is being avoided by Cunningham. If you two fought the winner would probably be seen as the consensus number one contender in the cruiserweight division.

[Per Se]

...is there any proof Frank ****** said this?

I like ding, but Enzo would destroy him.

Not convinced Frank said that.

[samita]

its just the way you seem to put him on a pedastal when as far as I can see he has achieved very little, and it's all very well putting his lack of opportunities down to 'the man' but why call out Enzo Maccarinelli if he's so superior?

No disrespect to Enzo but at present there are bigger fish to fry title-wise.

Why not call out Mormeck or Haye?

Or even B Hop? lol
i guess as he mentioned earlier that those guys already have scheduled fights, so its kinda useless to call them out. but boxing fans in general tend to like fighters who pack a punch and produce explosive KOs, like tyson, foreman, liston, marciano... etc. Ding brings you that explosiveness plus he posts here dammit :D

I LOVE YOU DING :lol:

[rydersonthestorm]

They do have fight's but after that haye plans to go to heavyweight so he could still call out mormeck as mormeck has already stated he doesn't have any plans after the haye fight.

[Brickhaus]

How come you decided to bulk up so much when you where a much smaller amateur fighter?

You sure you're not thinking of the other Darnell Wilson?

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

[Ding]

How come you decided to bulk up so much when you where a much smaller amateur fighter?


That was a different Darnell Wilson.

[Danny Ocean]

ding would you ever consider with the right training methods going back to heavyweight

[rydersonthestorm]

Sorry you obviously know your career but i read you started and light heavyweight and had fought at lower weight classes as an amateur. I also read about your adrenal gland etc so if i am wrong pls explain becuase i am not on about the other fighter brought up.

[Kolya]

That was a different Darnell Wilson.


That confused me onc too. I was like "damn, Darnell went to the Olympic Trials?"

[allenko1]

I don't even think it's sucking up so much as guys supporting one of our own. Shit; guys on here support everyone basically who fights pro. Mark De Mori is probably not known at all in the USA but when he posts American posters still respect his opinion and his thoughts on things. I can personally say I like Darnell because he's an exciting fighter, from the area I'm from, with trainers I used to work with. The first time I walked into my old gym in Maryland, there were Darnell Wilson posters from his early days on the wall.

Well said. Am I a Juan and Jose Diaz "suck-up" because I know them and trained with them at the same gym? I support Rocky Juarez too (even though he from the Northside):yep OK I'll take that. I wanna see all H-Town do good, all fighters. A lot of people don't get a chance to interact with a professional, especially one with reputation a Ding, so I would ease up on all of that.

[Ding]

ding would you ever consider with the right training methods going back to heavyweight



We'll, I only fought there once and was way out of shape. I fought for the money I really needed at the time(hard times). Now that my walk around weight is like 15lbs heavier than it was 3 years ago and my best work in the gym is against heavys, my whole team is favoring that notion. But damn, its some big mofo's up at heavyweight.:admin

[Danny Ocean]

yeah

being realistic how well do you think your punch would carry

also what do you think of you and david haye dominating up there

[Words]

Yeah what do you think of Haye's chances at Heavyweight? The guy claims that he walks around at 230lbs + and that losing 30lbs every time he fights is seriously fucking him up. Cant be healthy losing that much weight.

[Ding]

yeah

being realistic how well do you think your punch would carry

also what do you think of you and david haye dominating up there


I think Haye will do very well at heavy, but despite what some people have said on these boards about him having success with Wladimir, I believe he would get broken in half.


If he's moved correctly, he may very well be a title holder.

[Ding]

yeah

being realistic how well do you think your punch would carry

also what do you think of you and david haye dominating up there


Almost all of the knockdowns I've had in sparring were against heavyweights. Its not my intentions, but they like to use there size against me so I have rattle there brain a little bit.

The most common saying that I've had regarding my punch from the heavys is that they have been in with heavier handed guys, but my punch makes them get dizzy or the room gets dark, no lie.

[MrMagic]

Ding, realistically speaking, whats your pick on these fights?

Ding vs. Peter
Ding vs. Wladimir Klitschko
Ding vs. David Haye
Ding vs. Kessler/Calzaghe
Ding vs. Dawson
Ding vs. Chris Byrd (A small heavy for you :D)

Oh, I personally believe that you would beat Enzo, perhaps Haye, but I would have you the underdog against Mormeck or Bell.
Marco Huck is one dude I've never been keen on, you would probably blaze him for all I know, he's too hotheaded and makes lotsa mistakes, and you can't afford making those mistakes against a heavy hitter.

[rydersonthestorm]

The thing about haye is if he gets more power when he doesn't have to drop 30 pounds and hits wlad on the chin then i think he could be in for a good win. I want to see haye fight someone like peter ot tua well before wlad though so we can see if his power is as good as i and many other think. I am not saying haye will beat wlad before anyone starts as i need to see how he does against mormeck and a strong heavyweight like tua or peter before i fully jump on the band wagon.
I think ding loses to haye, wlad, maybe peter and gets easy wins aginst the other's.

[MrMagic]

He's damn right though, Wlad, Peter and Tua would break Haye in half, no doubt about it.

[Words]

Peter and Tua are too slow to get to Haye. I imagine Haye could outbox them and win by UD.

[Ding]

Ding, realistically speaking, whats your pick on these fights?

Ding vs. Peter
Ding vs. Wladimir Klitschko
Ding vs. David Haye
Ding vs. Kessler/Calzaghe
Ding vs. Dawson
Ding vs. Chris Byrd (A small heavy for you :D)

Oh, I personally believe that you would beat Enzo, perhaps Haye, but I would have you the underdog against Mormeck or Bell.
Marco Huck is one dude I've never been keen on, you would probably blaze him for all I know, he's too hotheaded and makes lotsa mistakes, and you can't afford making those mistakes against a heavy hitter.


I better not comment on thoses, as I'm not ready for the heated post I get in return. Just know that I really believe in myself and I am not going to say how another man gonna kick my ass if I fight him, can't do it.:bart

Btw, Marco Huck is a very big cruiser who is definitley top 5 imo. He will get the nod over Steve C. However, I do agree about thoses mistakes.

[Ding]

Peter and Tua are too slow to get to Haye. I imagine Haye could outbox them and win by UD.




Thats possible, but if I managed him I'd def keep him away from Sam right now.

[rydersonthestorm]

It's obvious your not going to say you would lose, i doubt any good boxer in the world would admit that.
I have a question that will not get you heated exchanges and i think you can answer, do you think you punch harder than haye?

[MrMagic]

I better not comment on thoses, as I'm not ready for the heated post I get in return. Just know that I really believe in myself and I am not going to say how another man gonna kick my ass if I fight him, can't do it.:bart

Btw, Marco Huck is a very big cruiser who is definitley top 5 imo. He will get the nod over Steve C. However, I do agree about thoses mistakes.
Yeah obviously, I should've known better.. you're a fighter.
instead of Ding, lets just say, put Haye's name in there against those guys.
Whats your predictions?

[Ding]

It's obvious your not going to say you would lose, i doubt any good boxer in the world would admit that.
I have a question that will not get you heated exchanges and i think you can answer, do you think you punch harder than haye?



The fact is, Kelvin Davis said that he thought I hit a little harder. We both have one punch KO power. He can fight a little better from a distance, but i"m a better finisher. I wish it was he and I fighting on the 10th, but I dont have what Mormeck has.

[klion22]

"Darnell is too dangerous, and we would fight him only if we had to. I make to much money with this guy, he's a big ticket seller and its just not worth it."

I respect him for coming right out and saying it, but I'm still fukkin pissed about it.:twisted:

I might have a stay busy fight in november, but I dont want that shit. I was in high hopes for this opportunity.


All this BS about how he will beat me easily, I dont wanna read that shit for a while, cause team Enzo sure as fuck dont believe it!!!!

Is this REALLY Darnell Ding a Ling?

Can someone here verify this?

[Glove Up]

Is this REALLY Darnell Ding a Ling?

Can someone here verify this?

yes, it is him. I don't suspect you would believe me either, but for what it's worth, I know 100% for a fact it is him.

[safe_pa]

It's very cool to see a pro on the board. Thanks Darnell, nice to see a fighter with interest in the fans.
Anyways I just checked frank ******s website and no mention of you, Do you perhaps have a link to what Frank said? I realise you've been asked for a link several times already in this thread but as you haven't provided one I thought I'd ask again :good
Thanks again, Take it EZ.

[Ding]

It's very cool to see a pro on the board. Thanks Darnell, nice to see a fighter with interest in the fans.
Anyways I just checked frank ******s website and no mention of you, Do you perhaps have a link to what Frank said? I realise you've been asked for a link several times already in this thread but as you haven't provided one I thought I'd ask again :good
Thanks again, Take it EZ.



There is no link. My promoter Dino Duva spoke with ****** for the 3rd time regarding this fight and yesterday he just flat gave the real reason why I wont get my shot November 3rd. If you think I'm making this up just to sound cool, thats on you bro.:good

[boxfan99]

Ding, realistically speaking, whats your pick on these fights?

Ding vs. Peter
Ding vs. Wladimir Klitschko
Ding vs. David Haye
Ding vs. Kessler/Calzaghe
Ding vs. Dawson
Ding vs. Chris Byrd (A small heavy for you :D)

Oh, I personally believe that you would beat Enzo, perhaps Haye, but I would have you the underdog against Mormeck or Bell.
Marco Huck is one dude I've never been keen on, you would probably blaze him for all I know, he's too hotheaded and makes lotsa mistakes, and you can't afford making those mistakes against a heavy hitter.

I almost pissed my pants laughing when I read that. Why didn't you go even further and suggested Ding vs. PBF?

[boxfan99]

He's damn right though, Wlad, Peter and Tua would break Haye in half, no doubt about it.

No disrespect intended but those guys would also break Ding in half. These heavies are huge even compared with big cruisers.

[rydersonthestorm]

Thanks for the answer's bro, it's nice to see a boxer talking with the fans.
Also in regards to tua and peter how are they huge compared to a 6'3 230 pound haye ?

[bigeddie27]

There is no link. My promoter Dino Duva spoke with ****** for the 3rd time regarding this fight and yesterday he just flat gave the real reason why I wont get my shot November 3rd. If you think I'm making this up just to sound cool, thats on you bro.:good

Frank ****** doesn't even have to say it for me to believe it. Just look at his fighters and who they fight. Dispicable. Whatever happened to laying it all out on the line against whoever? Ding represents that, and is why he needs to be champ. A true champ will fight whoever, whenever. And we need to support any fighter like that wether its on this board or buying tickets.

[o_money]

"Darnell is too dangerous, and we would fight him only if we had to. I make to much money with this guy, he's a big ticket seller and its just not worth it."

I respect him for coming right out and saying it, but I'm still fukkin pissed about it.:twisted:

I might have a stay busy fight in november, but I dont want that shit. I was in high hopes for this opportunity.


All this BS about how he will beat me easily, I dont wanna read that shit for a while, cause team Enzo sure as fuck dont believe it!!!!

this is fucking bullshit. and man didn't enzo say he'd fight ya?

[bigeddie27]

hey ding whats enzo's phone number, im gonna call his ass up and call him a bitch. In fact, we all should call his ass up and shame him. Declining us, the fans, a great fight because he is a pussy. email address, phone number, mailing address, whatever. Lets make this fight happen. we can do this.

[rydersonthestorm]

I have no doubt that enzo would fight anyone, the doubts are with frank ****** so ask for his number and give him the shit. In fact ding if you can get an e-mail address for ****** i think alot of us would be happy to e-mail him and not give him shit(as that will not help) but ask him why he doesn't want a guy like you fighting enzo, when he says nobody will fight him.

[tays001]

hey DING you just got F'd best thing to do is KEep winning remeber they can'd hide from you forever

[safe_pa]

There is no link. My promoter Dino Duva spoke with ****** for the 3rd time regarding this fight and yesterday he just flat gave the real reason why I wont get my shot November 3rd. If you think I'm making this up just to sound cool, thats on you bro.:good

It's not like I didn't believe you man, ****** is just so full of shit I would have liked to read/heard it for myself.
Anyway you don't have to make shit up just to sound cool, you're a pro boxer with real talent posting on a boxing forum, thats alone shows your a cool guy.
Pity we won't be seeing you fight Macca but I'm sure your chance will come.
Thanks for taking the time to answer me I appreciate it. Take it EZ Darnell.

[achillesthegreat]

The boxer has to realise he is the employer not the promoter. Boxers need to shift the power back in their favour so they can start making the fights they want.

[MrMagic]

I almost pissed my pants laughing when I read that. Why didn't you go even further and suggested Ding vs. PBF?
I'm glad you had a good laugh.
To be real serious, Joe and Mikkel are both big guys, they would outbox Ding IMO.

[Taffyy]

Enzo's just from up the road from me & I have supported him from the beginning............However he is limited & the powers that be recognise this...........I hate the toad ****** but the prick is right ............. Reality of it Ding is that your too much of a risk with that KO of yours !!!!.............Good luck in the future though(Except when your fighting a welshman !!!!...)

[rydersonthestorm]

[Only registered and activated users can see links]******.tv/hesk/index.php?a=start
this is the frank ****** e-mail( well enquiry section, start a new enquiry) so anyone who wants to help darnell send ****** and his team a polite e-mail asking why he is not conisdering darnell as an opponent for enzo when he says he is having difficulty finding a good one. Pls be polite as it will make darnell look bad if people start calling ****** an asshole etc.

[Taffyy]

I speak to Gavin Rees from time to time.........DING.....If you got a message for Enzo I'll get Gav to let him know.........lolololol.........By the way good luck to Gavin against Kotelnik on Dec. 8th.....!!!

[bigeddie27]

The boxer has to realise he is the employer not the promoter. Boxers need to shift the power back in their favour so they can start making the fights they want.

Excellent point, I was just about to post this same sentiment. Its time for the fighters to start demanding these fights. They are only hurting themselves by not doing it.

[bigeddie27]

Just submitted an enquiry to frank ****** tv's website. I know he prolly wont read it but what the hell, hopefully someone over ther does. here is what I put.

Hello Frank ******:

Over the years your business has been interfering with the sport of boxing. You have a employee (who should be your employer by the way) by the name of Enzo who is a pro cruiserweight boxer. It has come across my attention that he is currently not going to fight Darnell 'Ding-A-Ling' Wilson because you feel it is too much 'risk with little reward'. Are your plans with Enzo going to be to continue fighting less than stellar competition because you would like to milk him for all he is worth? To you, he must not be worth squat considering you are scared to put him up against a contender who makes exciting fights. If you do not have faith in your fighter, why are you promoting him? Is it his good looks that attract fans? Is he an articulate speaker? Why keep him if his fighting skills aren't enough for you to put all of your confidence in his skills in the ring? Why did you even sign him up? These are questions (well more points than question) that a life long boxing fan pose to you. I spend good money on good fights. Hopefully more fighters become promoters themselves. At least they understand good fights bring more fans. Maybe you should keep an eye on De La Hoya and how he is doing business. As a matter of fact, I believe the next megafight for Ricky Hatton and Floyd Mayweather is promoted by him. Didn't you use to promote Ricky? What happened? It seems as soon as he left you he started to get more exposure, tougher fights, and more money. What happened Frank? I think when I look at what happened between Ding and Enzo that pretty much answers that question.

Inquiry #YW5YZ67S48

[bigeddie27]

If someone get get me Enzo's phone number or mailing address I would greatly appreciate it. I know he is not big time enough to not get my mail, and I figure he would like to hear from a fan (or 2, or 3, or damn I have a lot of friends). Maybe if the whole ESB crowd got into this we could make some shit happen.

[bumdujour]

"Darnell is too dangerous, and we would fight him only if we had to. I make to much money with this guy, he's a big ticket seller and its just not worth it."

I respect him for coming right out and saying it, but I'm still fukkin pissed about it.:twisted:

I might have a stay busy fight in november, but I dont want that shit. I was in high hopes for this opportunity.


All this BS about how he will beat me easily, I dont wanna read that shit for a while, cause team Enzo sure as fuck dont believe it!!!!

i hope you get to fight him anyways. youd prob knock him the fuck out.

but with the other champs i see you losing im afraid.

except if haye becomes champ. him you can ko no problem.

[rydersonthestorm]

As i said if enough people send stuff in to ****** he will have to listen, he might not do anything but at least he will know what people think of is promoting.

[Alcaldemb]

Actually the reason might be that Enzo's mandatory is Marco Huck, 19-0 (14).

[bigeddie27]

Actually the reason might be that Enzo's mandatory is Marco Huck, 19-0 (14).
yeah but who has huck fought to earn his titel shot? according to boxing rec, nobody. Compared to who Ding has fought - REALLY NOBODIES. And that looks like it is for the IBF, does Enzo have the IBF or WBO title? I hope HBO starts to put up some good money for the cruiserweights, its their time to shine. And a hellava lot better than the disaster of a heavyweight division.

[rydersonthestorm]

I doubt the reason is huck as he was fighting cunningham, the cunningham pulls out and they say they can't find and opponent this is a short notice fight and it think if huck was an option it might have been mentioned already.