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randeris
01-27-2010, 03:17 PM
What outcomes do you see in these fights and more importantly, how do you see these fights goint stylewise (some results might be given, what is interesting is how it goes, how they fight eachother):
147 - Shane Mosley vs Thomas Hearns
168 - James Toney vs Joe Calzaghe
140 - Meldrick Taylor vs Ricky Hatton
HW - Roy Jones Jr vs Eddie Chambers
175 - Roy Jones Jr vs Archie Moore
147 - Sugar Ray Robinson vs Sugar Ray Leonard
PhillyPhan69
01-27-2010, 03:24 PM
What outcomes do you see in these fights and more importantly, how do you see these fights goint stylewise (some results might be given, what is interesting is how it goes, how they fight eachother):
147 - Shane Mosley vs Thomas Hearns
168 - James Toney vs Joe Calzaghe
140 - Meldrick Taylor vs Ricky Hatton
HW - Roy Jones Jr vs Eddie Chambers
175 - Roy Jones Jr vs Archie Moore
147 - Sugar Ray Robinson vs Sugar Ray Leonard
Mosley KO Hearns late (I will be in the minority)
Toney 8-4 decision
taylor on pts, but Hatton will keep it more interesting than most will pick
RJJ on pts
Tho ole mongoose KO 8
Robinson by close decision
mcvey
01-27-2010, 03:38 PM
What outcomes do you see in these fights and more importantly, how do you see these fights goint stylewise (some results might be given, what is interesting is how it goes, how they fight eachother):
147 - Shane Mosley vs Thomas Hearns
168 - James Toney vs Joe Calzaghe
140 - Meldrick Taylor vs Ricky Hatton
HW - Roy Jones Jr vs Eddie Chambers
175 - Roy Jones Jr vs Archie Moore
147 - Sugar Ray Robinson vs Sugar Ray Leonard
Hearns dec or late tko .Forrest proved tall man ,good jab ,sharp right hand = victory.
Calzaghe ,dec ,work rate, and fitness, too much for the better man.
Taylor dec speed kills.
Jones at this moment in Chambers career, dec.
Moore by late ko.
Robinson by dec.[Welterweight][ by ko Middleweight].
Pachilles
01-27-2010, 10:26 PM
147 - Shane Mosley vs Thomas Hearns = Hearns TKO rds 8 - 10...Hearns is too imposing at 147, i dont think Shane matches up well will guys who hold the pure physical advantages
168 - James Toney vs Joe Calzaghe = Calzaghe wide UD...I believe Calzaghe is severely underrated and his speed and volume would overwhelm the slick but not so busy counter puncher
140 - Meldrick Taylor vs Ricky Hatton = Taylor UD or KO....Hatton is a real stylist and his style does not match up well against fighters who have a spring in their step and tendencies to brawl
HW - Roy Jones Jr vs Eddie Chambers = Jones KO...Chamers is not on his level
175 - Roy Jones Jr vs Archie Moore = Jones UD...Again i see speed being the winner here, though Archie was tough and Jones not busy enough to cause a KO, but would outclass him with his speed, timing and elusiveness
147 - Sugar Ray Robinson vs Sugar Ray Leonard = Robinson KO...Could match leonard technically, and at 147 with Robinson's power is just sickening,
like Hearns vs Mosley, Robinson is just too much physically, at this weight
anarci
01-27-2010, 10:42 PM
What outcomes do you see in these fights and more importantly, how do you see these fights goint stylewise (some results might be given, what is interesting is how it goes, how they fight eachother):
147 - Shane Mosley vs Thomas Hearns
168 - James Toney vs Joe Calzaghe
140 - Meldrick Taylor vs Ricky Hatton
HW - Roy Jones Jr vs Eddie Chambers
175 - Roy Jones Jr vs Archie Moore
147 - Sugar Ray Robinson vs Sugar Ray Leonard
Hearns Decision 115-112
Toney Ko 11 Close fight pretty even until Toney kos him. But if Toney gets lazy Calzaghe could win a decision
Taylor w 12 117-111 or maybe late stoppage.
Jones W 12 114-112 in a controversial Decision
Jones W12by decision 116-112 if they go 15 im taking Moore KO 14
Robinson by very close decison 144-142 or 115-114. At Middle he stops Leonard in the late rounds.
Addie
01-27-2010, 10:48 PM
118 - Orlando Canizales vs Miguel Lora
126 - Marco Antonio Barrera vs. Vicente Saldivar
130 - Alexis Arguello vs. Juan Manuel Marquez
135 - Roberto Duran vs Julio Cesar Chavez
anarci
01-27-2010, 11:10 PM
118 - Orlando Canizales vs Miguel Lora
126 - Marco Antonio Barrera vs. Vicente Saldivar
130 - Alexis Arguello vs. Juan Manuel Marquez
135 - Roberto Duran vs Julio Cesar Chavez
Canizales by close and somewhat controversial decision 114-113
Barrera stops Saldivar in 10 awesome rounds very close fight up until then
Arguello is slightly behind on the cards when he kos Marquez in the 13th
If it goes 12 Marquez might win in a squeeker.
Duran wins a close but convincing decision 144-141 the difference being Durans superior speed, but CHAVEZ DOES SCore alot with his accurate shots.
WhataRock
01-27-2010, 11:10 PM
118 - Orlando Canizales vs Miguel Lora
126 - Marco Antonio Barrera vs. Vicente Saldivar
130 - Alexis Arguello vs. Juan Manuel Marquez
135 - Roberto Duran vs Julio Cesar Chavez
Draw..I mean it.. hard to split them, I probably give the edge to Lora.
Pass.
Arguello decision...overcomes an early deficit to deck Marquez once or twice later on and pull it out by a couple of points.
Duran extremely hard fought but wins it clearly by a few rounds.
anarci
01-27-2010, 11:15 PM
How about these fights
Alfredo Escalara vs Joel Casamayor
Jeff Chandler vs Johnny Tapia
Marlon Starling vs Shane Mosley
Jeff Fenech vs Yurikois Gamboa
WhataRock
01-27-2010, 11:23 PM
There is a cunt hair between the first three anarci.
Id probably go with Escalara, Tapia and Mosley though.
I think Jeff takes out Gamboa...at this stage Yurk isnt proven enough to deal with a truly elite swarmer with the physical strength of Fenech.
anarci
01-27-2010, 11:34 PM
There is a cunt hair between the first three anarci.
Id probably go with Escalara, Tapia and Mosley though.
I think Jeff takes out Gamboa...at this stage Yurk isnt proven enough to deal with a truly elite swarmer with the physical strength of Fenech.
:lol: Yey i agree thats why i posted them. Id take Casamayor over Escalara,Tapia by a razor close decision, ID say Mosley beats Marlon by a close but convincing decision, higher work rate gets it for him.
Wow that Gamboa Fenech is a tough one:huh I was a big fan of Fenechs and think he is underrated however he comes straight in and is very aggressive that could be all wrong against Fast and big punching Gamboa. Although i do agree Gamboa is unproven he also looks like hes the real thing. Possible future PFP guy?
WhataRock
01-27-2010, 11:58 PM
Ive rated him since the start and believed he could have easily picked up a title in his first 4 or 5 bouts...against the right opponent of course.
But you dont know with these 4 rounder legends...they could fall apart in a long fight especially if they have to deal with adversity.
But I do like Gamboa and reckon he can clean out the divvy in the coming year.
asero
01-28-2010, 08:03 AM
ivan calderon vs rosendo alvarez
salvador sanchez vs alexis arguello
winky wright vs oscar dela hoya
nigel benn vs andre ward
rocky marciano vs mike tyson
MW159
01-28-2010, 08:17 AM
ivan calderon vs rosendo alvarez
salvador sanchez vs alexis arguello
winky wright vs oscar dela hoya
nigel benn vs andre ward
rocky marciano vs mike tyson
Calderon wins a technical decision after 9 close rounds
Sanchez outboxes and outmanuvers Arguello to take a decision
De La Hoya outworks Winky early but Winky rallies late a takes the decision
If Ward sticks to his gameplan and doesn't get caught by a shot I can see him outboxing Benn
Tyson overwhelms Marciano
Luis Rodriguez-Sugar Ray Leonard
Dick Tiger-Mike McCallum
Jeff Fenech-Brian Mitchell
Sung-Kil Moon-Danny Romero
Flea Man
01-28-2010, 08:17 AM
What outcomes do you see in these fights and more importantly, how do you see these fights goint stylewise (some results might be given, what is interesting is how it goes, how they fight eachother):
147 - Shane Mosley vs Thomas Hearns
168 - James Toney vs Joe Calzaghe
140 - Meldrick Taylor vs Ricky Hatton
HW - Roy Jones Jr vs Eddie Chambers
175 - Roy Jones Jr vs Archie Moore
147 - Sugar Ray Robinson vs Sugar Ray Leonard
Hearns will outbox Mosley....too mobile, Mosley is in effect just an athletic slugger, and won't have the footspeed/footwork to keep up with him. Mosley is hittable though; if anyone is gonna' flatten him for keeps its The Hitman.
Toney vs Calzaghe is interesting; Calzaghe has 0% chance of hurting Toney, and Toney is the cleaner more effective puncher. Might be a 'better' version of the Jirov fight, except Calzaghe's adaptibility may see him win more rounds and the fight. I have no worry with any outcome being predicted in this fight.
Hatton vs Taylor-Not in the same class IMO as fighters. Styleswise they both come to fight-Taylor stops him late, too many punches. hatton may survive due to stunting Taylors workrate with his mauling, but doesn't have the variety/technique of Chavez to slow Taylor down and bust him up.
Jones is a rhythm breaker, but Chambers is fast too. I wouldn't want to say. Chambers is no Ruiz (in terms of style) but I have no idea how Roy would deal with a fairly fast guy. I'll go with Jones to pull off a close decision, but Chambers has some pop. I just think Roy can outmanouver him, but I really rate Chambers. Real hard one to pick as one guy might not have hit his prime yet and the other one only had one fight at Heavy, against someone as far removed from Chambers as I can think of.
Jones vs Moore; Again, if Jones can use his foot speed and movement to keep Moore from throwing his bombs he can win a decision. HOWEVER; Moore was such a fluid boxer himself I fancy him to pull the shots out and stop Jones, and it can happen at any time. Thing is, I'm not going to be swayed by Roy post-Ruiz. His chin was probably never great but when his legs/reflexes were still with him he was nigh on infallible. I'd go with Moore though; He was unlike anyone Roy had ever fought and I'd fancy him to figure out a way to land the telling shots.
Robinson and Leonard has been done too many times. I go for Robinson.
Flea Man
01-28-2010, 08:19 AM
There are numerous hypothetical threads out there..........let this guy have his thread :lol:
anarci
01-28-2010, 08:34 AM
Calderon wins a technical decision after 9 close rounds
Sanchez outboxes and outmanuvers Arguello to take a decision
De La Hoya outworks Winky early but Winky rallies late a takes the decision
If Ward sticks to his gameplan and doesn't get caught by a shot I can see him outboxing Benn
Tyson overwhelms Marciano
Luis Rodriguez-Sugar Ray Leonard
Dick Tiger-Mike McCallum
Jeff Fenech-Brian Mitchell
Sung-Kil Moon-Danny Romero
Leonard by decision 8-6-1
Tiger by split decision
Fenech close decision 115-112
Moon Split decision 114-113
Acelino Freitas vs Tony Lopez
John Stracey vs Zab Judah
James Kirkland vs Tony Ayala
Nino Benvenuti vs Joey Giardello
asero
01-28-2010, 08:35 AM
How about these fights
Alfredo Escalara vs Joel Casamayor
Jeff Chandler vs Johnny Tapia
Marlon Starling vs Shane Mosley
Jeff Fenech vs Yurikois Gamboa
casamayor, tapia, mosley and fenech all by late KOs
anarci
01-28-2010, 08:35 AM
There are numerous hypothetical threads out there..........let this guy have his thread :lol:
Your right i just went with it.
I guess the Hypothetical thread is the one where you can bring in other fights.
Flea Man
01-28-2010, 08:36 AM
casamayor, tapia, mosley and fenech all by late KOs
:lol:
Flea Man
01-28-2010, 08:38 AM
Your right i just went with it.
I guess the Hypothetical thread is the one where you can bring in other fights.
Yeah as long as you answer the previous one in a wee bit of detail.
Of course you can start a thread but I think there's just too many threads that don't warrant more than one or two posts. And the amount of 'Tony Ayala vs....' threads are ridiculous:lol:
Bill Butcher
01-28-2010, 08:44 AM
What outcomes do you see in these fights and more importantly, how do you see these fights goint stylewise (some results might be given, what is interesting is how it goes, how they fight eachother):
147 - Shane Mosley vs Thomas Hearns
168 - James Toney vs Joe Calzaghe
140 - Meldrick Taylor vs Ricky Hatton
HW - Roy Jones Jr vs Eddie Chambers
175 - Roy Jones Jr vs Archie Moore
147 - Sugar Ray Robinson vs Sugar Ray Leonard
Hearns by KO
Calzaghe by close decision
Taylor by decision
Never seen Chambers fight tbh
RJJ by dec or Moore by KO (50/50)
Robinson by close decision
Bill Butcher
01-28-2010, 08:54 AM
Also.... I think the above Arguello-Marquez fight is a bit of a mis-match in Arguello`s favour, he has massive height & reach advantages, is very accurate, can box, brawl, gets stronger in the later rds & most importantly hits extremely hard, harder than MP who floored JMM 4 times in 2 fights, I dont see JMM taking Alexis`s firepower.
Arguello by KO, no doubt.
MW159
01-28-2010, 10:06 AM
What outcomes do you see in these fights and more importantly, how do you see these fights goint stylewise (some results might be given, what is interesting is how it goes, how they fight eachother):
147 - Shane Mosley vs Thomas Hearns
168 - James Toney vs Joe Calzaghe
140 - Meldrick Taylor vs Ricky Hatton
HW - Roy Jones Jr vs Eddie Chambers
175 - Roy Jones Jr vs Archie Moore
147 - Sugar Ray Robinson vs Sugar Ray Leonard
Hearns by mid round KO, I doubt Mosley would be very competitive in this bout.
If Toney shows up in shape I can see him winning a decision or late KO, but it would close all the way through.
Taylor wouldn't really be able to move Ricky with his shots, but he would outwork and outmanuver him and take a wide decision.
Jones would of been able to take a fairly wide decision over Chambers.
I think Moore would of been able to time his right and catch Jones with it and I don't think he would of been able to stand up to that, Moore by late KO.
The middleweight version of Robinson would of matched up better with Leonard than the more aggressive welterweight version, all the same I think that Robinson would of been a step ahead most of the way. Robinson by close decision.
Emile Griffith-Gene Fulmer
Roger Mayweather-Frankie Randall
Howard Davis Jr.-Ray Mancini
Edwin Rosario-Stevie Johnston
anarci
01-28-2010, 07:59 PM
Hearns by mid round KO, I doubt Mosley would be very competitive in this bout.
If Toney shows up in shape I can see him winning a decision or late KO, but it would close all the way through.
Taylor wouldn't really be able to move Ricky with his shots, but he would outwork and outmanuver him and take a wide decision.
Jones would of been able to take a fairly wide decision over Chambers.
I think Moore would of been able to time his right and catch Jones with it and I don't think he would of been able to stand up to that, Moore by late KO.
The middleweight version of Robinson would of matched up better with Leonard than the more aggressive welterweight version, all the same I think that Robinson would of been a step ahead most of the way. Robinson by close decision.
Emile Griffith-Gene Fulmer
Roger Mayweather-Frankie Randall
Howard Davis Jr.-Ray Mancini
Edwin Rosario-Stevie Johnston
Draw
Randall ko 6
Davis decision:huhNot sure
Rosario is slightly behind on the cards when he kos Johnston in the 9th.
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