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Fedor Em
10-03-2007, 06:39 PM
These damn Brits are really getting cocky, talking about how Hopkins has no change against Calzaghe, Kessler has no change against Calzaghe(even though I think Calzaghe will beat him, but the fight will be good and Kessler is a legit fighter). No one from 160-175 beats Joe. They want Calzaghes Junk in their mouth. Floyd can't deal will Hatton's pressure. Way too much American bias in the p4p rankings. Well here is a p4p list.

1. Floyd Mayweather (U.S.A.)
2. Manny Pacquaio (Phillipines)
3. Bernard Hopkins (U.S.A.) Yes handjob he deserves a spot there with wins over Winky, the first person to do it in nearly 10 years, Tarver, the consesus best Lt. Heavy in the world, Who the fuck is Erdei again?
A middleweight reign that was at least as impressive as Joes at 168.
4. Joe Calzaghe (U.K.) Great fighter, the best the British have seen since LL retired.
5. Miguel Cotto (PR) I know a US "Territory" but come on now, would a p4p fighter who came from Hong Kong 15 years ago be considered "British"
6. Ricky Hatton (U.K.) Wins over Zoo, and Castillo even those past prime he deserves to be here. That win over Kostya was partically impressive because Zoo just toasted Sharmba Mitchell in 3 the fight before. Maussa was a pretty good win as well. Still he is gonna get beat down by Floyd, and I like Hatton.
7. Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico) just came off a very good win against a fading but still possibly an elite Barrera, was robbed against John.
8. Winky Wright (U.S.A.) Wins over Mosley twice, Tito, Quartey, and Soliman are quite impressive. Lost a close but clear decision to a boxing master and he was 10 lbs heaver than he should have been.
9/10. Izzy Vasquez/Rafa Marquez (Mexico) both great champions who have split their first 2 meetings. So I can't decide which should be higher.


3 Fighters from US
3 From Mexico
2 From Snaggletooth Kingdom
1 From Phillipines
1 From Puerto Rico

American Bias? Eat a dick, you have 2 great champions who deserve to be high in the p4p top 10 but we have legends fighting in the US, so show more respect.

I can't wait for December 8th

Pimp C
10-03-2007, 06:41 PM
These damn Brits are really getting cocky, talking about how Hopkins has no change against Calzaghe, Kessler has no change against Calzaghe(even though I think Calzaghe will beat him, but the fight will be good and Kessler is a legit fighter). No one from 160-175 beats Joe. They want Calzaghes Junk in their mouth. Floyd can't deal will Hatton's pressure. Way too much American bias in the p4p rankings. Well here is a p4p list.

1. Floyd Mayweather (U.S.A.)
2. Manny Pacquaio (Phillipines)
3. Bernard Hopkins (U.S.A.) Yes handjob he deserves a spot there with wins over Winky, the first person to do it in nearly 10 years, Tarver, the consesus best Lt. Heavy in the world, Who the fuck is Erdei again?
A middleweight reign that was at least as impressive as Joes at 168.
4. Joe Calzaghe (U.K.) Great fighter, the best the British have seen since LL retired.
5. Miguel Cotto (PR) I know a US "Territory" but come on now, would a p4p fighter who came from Hong Kong 15 years ago be considered "British"
6. Ricky Hatton (U.K.) Wins over Zoo, and Castillo even those past prime he deserves to be here. That win over Kostya was partically impressive because Zoo just toasted Sharmba Mitchell in 3 the fight before. Maussa was a pretty good win as well. Still he is gonna get beat down by Floyd, and I like Hatton.
7. Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico) just came off a very good win against a fading but still possibly an elite Barrera, was robbed against John.
8. Winky Wright (U.S.A.) Wins over Mosley twice, Tito, Quartey, and Soliman are quite impressive. Lost a close but clear decision to a boxing master and he was 10 lbs heaver than he should have been.
9/10. Izzy Vasquez/Rafa Marquez (Mexico) both great champions who have split their first 2 meetings. So I can't decide which should be higher.


3 Fighters from US
3 From Mexico
2 From Snaggletooth Kingdom
1 From Phillipines
1 From Puerto Rico

American Bias? Eat a dick, you have 2 great champions who deserve to be high in the p4p top 10 but we have legends fighting in the US, so show more respect.

I can't wait for December 8th
:lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl
Prepare to be flamed!:yep

JC2006
10-03-2007, 06:42 PM
Floyd is definitely going to wreck Hatton.

Fedor Em
10-03-2007, 06:43 PM
:lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl
Prepare to be flamed!:yep

Fuck it they can bring it. :good

Pimp C
10-03-2007, 06:43 PM
Floyd is definitely going to wreck Hatton.
I agree he's a stylistic nightmare for Hatton.

Toopretty
10-03-2007, 06:59 PM
Did Floyd get voted off yet..He needs to get focused on the fight rather then looking gay on dancing with the stars.

KhanB
10-03-2007, 07:01 PM
Floyd went on the next level.

Fedor Em
10-03-2007, 07:05 PM
Did Floyd get voted off yet..He needs to get focused on the fight rather then looking gay on dancing with the stars.

Floyd stays in the gym, he will be fine.

josak
10-03-2007, 07:17 PM
I agree he's a stylistic nightmare for Hatton.

Some would disagree with you there.

rydersonthestorm
10-03-2007, 07:24 PM
Just becuase some people are dicks doesn't mean that you have to be one yourself, posts like that only make you look stupid.

bill poster
10-03-2007, 07:24 PM
Hatton gets a lot of credit just taking on floyd at 147. so behave.

Fedor Em
10-03-2007, 07:40 PM
Hatton gets a lot of credit just taking on floyd at 147. so behave.

I like Hatton, I gave him credit (#6 on my p4p list) he has beaten 2 Hall of Fame fighters and is the best 140 lb fighter in the world, but people saying "Floyd will wither from the pressue" shows a lack of respect for Floyd. Every fighter deserves some form of respect, it is just a shame fighters such as Hopkins and Taylor do not get this respect from many posters here. Taylor was an undefeaten champion with as good of a resmue has Hattons going into the Pavlik fight, he took a huge risk and lost a very good fight where he almost stopped Pav earlier on. Hatton deserves the same respect that Taylor deserves. The only problem he gets the respect and Jermain gets trashed. The brits are by far way more bias.

I respect Hatton, but I have anything but respect for many(not all) of the arrogant Brits on here. Who claim "the Yanks" are overrating "their fighters." Well most knowlegable "Yank" boxing fans give Hatton and Calzaghe their credit. Too bad the limeys don't do the same when it comes to Hopkins, Mayweather, and Taylor.

C Money
10-03-2007, 07:44 PM
These damn Brits are really getting cocky, talking about how Hopkins has no change against Calzaghe, Kessler has no change against Calzaghe(even though I think Calzaghe will beat him, but the fight will be good and Kessler is a legit fighter). No one from 160-175 beats Joe. They want Calzaghes Junk in their mouth. Floyd can't deal will Hatton's pressure. Way too much American bias in the p4p rankings. Well here is a p4p list.

1. Floyd Mayweather (U.S.A.)
2. Manny Pacquaio (Phillipines)
3. Bernard Hopkins (U.S.A.) Yes handjob he deserves a spot there with wins over Winky, the first person to do it in nearly 10 years, Tarver, the consesus best Lt. Heavy in the world, Who the fuck is Erdei again?
A middleweight reign that was at least as impressive as Joes at 168.
4. Joe Calzaghe (U.K.) Great fighter, the best the British have seen since LL retired.
5. Miguel Cotto (PR) I know a US "Territory" but come on now, would a p4p fighter who came from Hong Kong 15 years ago be considered "British"
6. Ricky Hatton (U.K.) Wins over Zoo, and Castillo even those past prime he deserves to be here. That win over Kostya was partically impressive because Zoo just toasted Sharmba Mitchell in 3 the fight before. Maussa was a pretty good win as well. Still he is gonna get beat down by Floyd, and I like Hatton.
7. Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico) just came off a very good win against a fading but still possibly an elite Barrera, was robbed against John.
8. Winky Wright (U.S.A.) Wins over Mosley twice, Tito, Quartey, and Soliman are quite impressive. Lost a close but clear decision to a boxing master and he was 10 lbs heaver than he should have been.
9/10. Izzy Vasquez/Rafa Marquez (Mexico) both great champions who have split their first 2 meetings. So I can't decide which should be higher.


3 Fighters from US
3 From Mexico
2 From Snaggletooth Kingdom
1 From Phillipines
1 From Puerto Rico

American Bias? Eat a dick, you have 2 great champions who deserve to be high in the p4p top 10 but we have legends fighting in the US, so show more respect.

I can't wait for December 8th

Shit....:lol: Gotta give this guy an A for spirit:good

Floyds the favorite and Hatton's under rated, good match up, and really should have happened at 40! Floyd got his terms and we have a fight, so why COMPLAIN? Floyd still got TIME and Opportunities ahead and this ones a FREE MONEY MAKER , or so they say:yep This is how legacy is DEFINED. SSM vs Cotto Winner, Williams, and Cintron await. Hatton is/was a necessary step ANYWAY:thumbsup

Feel ya on the whole "Bias" thing. There gets to to be a tad much "occasionally":-( Its a bullshit ARGUMENT anyway. Make fight, see result, get ANSWER!!!! Ta da!!!!!!! Its who's the better fighter, not where he's from.

I'm American, rooting for Hatton, admitting PBF is the "favorite". If Hatton once again shocls the masses, they'll be a verse or two of "There's ONLY 1 Ricky Hatton, Only 1 Ricky Hatton" going on at the party. Hell, its halfway til Christmas anyway:hey

China_hand_Joe
10-03-2007, 07:44 PM
British fighters are generally a joke, yes.

Hatton and Calzaghe are the exceptions.

Potentially Haye too.

The P4P list was solid, but I'd put Guzman in the place of Hopkins, Calzaghe higher up and Kessler in for Wright.

Shane
10-03-2007, 07:45 PM
These damn Brits are really getting cocky, talking about how Hopkins has no change against Calzaghe, Kessler has no change against Calzaghe(even though I think Calzaghe will beat him, but the fight will be good and Kessler is a legit fighter). No one from 160-175 beats Joe. They want Calzaghes Junk in their mouth. Floyd can't deal will Hatton's pressure. Way too much American bias in the p4p rankings. Well here is a p4p list.

1. Floyd Mayweather (U.S.A.)
2. Manny Pacquaio (Phillipines)
3. Bernard Hopkins (U.S.A.) Yes handjob he deserves a spot there with wins over Winky, the first person to do it in nearly 10 years, Tarver, the consesus best Lt. Heavy in the world, Who the fuck is Erdei again?
A middleweight reign that was at least as impressive as Joes at 168.
4. Joe Calzaghe (U.K.) Great fighter, the best the British have seen since LL retired.
5. Miguel Cotto (PR) I know a US "Territory" but come on now, would a p4p fighter who came from Hong Kong 15 years ago be considered "British"
6. Ricky Hatton (U.K.) Wins over Zoo, and Castillo even those past prime he deserves to be here. That win over Kostya was partically impressive because Zoo just toasted Sharmba Mitchell in 3 the fight before. Maussa was a pretty good win as well. Still he is gonna get beat down by Floyd, and I like Hatton.
7. Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico) just came off a very good win against a fading but still possibly an elite Barrera, was robbed against John.
8. Winky Wright (U.S.A.) Wins over Mosley twice, Tito, Quartey, and Soliman are quite impressive. Lost a close but clear decision to a boxing master and he was 10 lbs heaver than he should have been.
9/10. Izzy Vasquez/Rafa Marquez (Mexico) both great champions who have split their first 2 meetings. So I can't decide which should be higher.


3 Fighters from US
3 From Mexico
2 From Snaggletooth Kingdom
1 From Phillipines
1 From Puerto Rico

American Bias? Eat a dick, you have 2 great champions who deserve to be high in the p4p top 10 but we have legends fighting in the US, so show more respect.

I can't wait for December 8th

OMG did you just say these damn brits? OH OH look for Laffy, Taffy or whatever his name is to reign down on you with his Eurosnob Hatred for Americans and his Typical Generalizations of a whole Country, oh and his favorite line -This is why the rest of the world hates you- :yep

Shane
10-03-2007, 07:46 PM
British fighters are generally a joke, yes.

Hatton and Calzaghe are the exceptions.

Potentially Haye too.

Couldn't agree with you more Wow just when i though i had you figured out.

Fedor Em
10-03-2007, 07:49 PM
British fighters are generally a joke, yes.

Hatton and Calzaghe are the exceptions.

Potentially Haye too.

The P4P list was solid, but I'd put Guzman in the place of Hopkins, Calzaghe higher up and Kessler in for Wright.

I agree Haye will be a top 20 fighter if he wins this fight coming up, maybe top 15. Kessler makes a good case, he is in my top 12. Guzman is top 20 but not top 10, a win over Barrios does not make you that high yet. His work at 122 was a while ago.

China_hand_Joe
10-03-2007, 07:55 PM
I agree Haye will be a top 20 fighter if he wins this fight coming up, maybe top 15. Kessler makes a good case, he is in my top 12. Guzman is top 20 but not top 10, a win over Barrios does not make you that high yet. His work at 122 was a while ago.

My Guzman fascination is based on my speculation on how talented he is.

Fedor Em
10-03-2007, 07:57 PM
My Guzman fascination is based on my speculation on how talented he is.

He is quite talented but so is Ivan Calderon. In fact I would say Calderon is more so and more accomplished. :good

griff
10-03-2007, 08:47 PM
Mayweather's beaten fighters thats already been beat by B-class boxers...just a thought. Why do fans have to hate the guy their favourite boxer is facing...I don't.

Mohak
10-03-2007, 09:04 PM
I'm a Hatton fan but he's going to get sliced and diced by PBF. Just can't see anyway of Hatton beating him.

EspadaYdaga
10-03-2007, 09:09 PM
Koki Kameda

Strike
10-03-2007, 09:23 PM
These damn Brits are really getting cocky, talking about how Hopkins has no change against Calzaghe, Kessler has no change against Calzaghe(even though I think Calzaghe will beat him, but the fight will be good and Kessler is a legit fighter). No one from 160-175 beats Joe. They want Calzaghes Junk in their mouth. Floyd can't deal will Hatton's pressure. Way too much American bias in the p4p rankings. Well here is a p4p list.

1. Floyd Mayweather (U.S.A.)
2. Manny Pacquaio (Phillipines)
3. Bernard Hopkins (U.S.A.) Yes handjob he deserves a spot there with wins over Winky, the first person to do it in nearly 10 years, Tarver, the consesus best Lt. Heavy in the world, Who the fuck is Erdei again?
A middleweight reign that was at least as impressive as Joes at 168.
4. Joe Calzaghe (U.K.) Great fighter, the best the British have seen since LL retired.
5. Miguel Cotto (PR) I know a US "Territory" but come on now, would a p4p fighter who came from Hong Kong 15 years ago be considered "British"
6. Ricky Hatton (U.K.) Wins over Zoo, and Castillo even those past prime he deserves to be here. That win over Kostya was partically impressive because Zoo just toasted Sharmba Mitchell in 3 the fight before. Maussa was a pretty good win as well. Still he is gonna get beat down by Floyd, and I like Hatton.
7. Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico) just came off a very good win against a fading but still possibly an elite Barrera, was robbed against John.
8. Winky Wright (U.S.A.) Wins over Mosley twice, Tito, Quartey, and Soliman are quite impressive. Lost a close but clear decision to a boxing master and he was 10 lbs heaver than he should have been.
9/10. Izzy Vasquez/Rafa Marquez (Mexico) both great champions who have split their first 2 meetings. So I can't decide which should be higher.


3 Fighters from US
3 From Mexico
2 From Snaggletooth Kingdom
1 From Phillipines
1 From Puerto Rico

American Bias? Eat a dick, you have 2 great champions who deserve to be high in the p4p top 10 but we have legends fighting in the US, so show more respect.

I can't wait for December 8th

Wow, great post. Yes PBF will beat Hatton..and? Your list shows that the UK has two of the top ranked fighters by your own system so what the fuck are you ranting about? The USA has about 5 times the number of people that the UK does, that is around 240 million more people. Well done on having two more of the elite fighters.

GazOC
10-03-2007, 09:33 PM
Ricky's wrestling style isn't going to help him when he gets into the ring with PBF. Floyd's gonna make him look silly.

Very profound!:good

Carlos Primera
10-03-2007, 09:40 PM
Wow, great post. Yes PBF will beat Hatton..and? Your list shows that the UK has two of the top ranked fighters by your own system so what the fuck are you ranting about? The USA has about 5 times the number of people that the UK does, that is around 240 million more people. Well done on having two more of the elite fighters.
its just his response to the board getting flooded by statements like "yanks over rate him for being a yank". "he's (insert nationality) thats why yanks underate him" etc.. his list shows that there's a proportional number of nationalities in it.

China_hand_Joe
10-03-2007, 10:02 PM
Hopkins is still in the list though.

Fedor Em
10-03-2007, 11:21 PM
Wow, great post. Yes PBF will beat Hatton..and? Your list shows that the UK has two of the top ranked fighters by your own system so what the fuck are you ranting about? The USA has about 5 times the number of people that the UK does, that is around 240 million more people. Well done on having two more of the elite fighters.

My list shows that where the fuck is the American Bias in the p4p list that Brits bitch and whine about?

MrStayman
10-03-2007, 11:33 PM
3 Fighters from US
3 From Mexico
2 From Snaggletooth Kingdom
1 From Phillipines
1 From Puerto Rico


:rofl:rofl

ThePlugInBabies
10-04-2007, 07:15 AM
British fighters are generally a joke, yes.

Hatton and Calzaghe are the exceptions.

Potentially Haye too.

The P4P list was solid, but I'd put Guzman in the place of Hopkins, Calzaghe higher up and Kessler in for Wright.

we've produced our fair share of quality fighters down they years.

oh and, Benn TKO12 Calzaghe :good

ron u.k.
10-04-2007, 07:41 AM
These damn Brits are really getting cocky, talking about how Hopkins has no change against Calzaghe, Kessler has no change against Calzaghe(even though I think Calzaghe will beat him, but the fight will be good and Kessler is a legit fighter). No one from 160-175 beats Joe. They want Calzaghes Junk in their mouth. Floyd can't deal will Hatton's pressure. Way too much American bias in the p4p rankings. Well here is a p4p list.

1. Floyd Mayweather (U.S.A.)
2. Manny Pacquaio (Phillipines)
3. Bernard Hopkins (U.S.A.) Yes handjob he deserves a spot there with wins over Winky, the first person to do it in nearly 10 years, Tarver, the consesus best Lt. Heavy in the world, Who the fuck is Erdei again?
A middleweight reign that was at least as impressive as Joes at 168.
4. Joe Calzaghe (U.K.) Great fighter, the best the British have seen since LL retired.
5. Miguel Cotto (PR) I know a US "Territory" but come on now, would a p4p fighter who came from Hong Kong 15 years ago be considered "British"
6. Ricky Hatton (U.K.) Wins over Zoo, and Castillo even those past prime he deserves to be here. That win over Kostya was partically impressive because Zoo just toasted Sharmba Mitchell in 3 the fight before. Maussa was a pretty good win as well. Still he is gonna get beat down by Floyd, and I like Hatton.
7. Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico) just came off a very good win against a fading but still possibly an elite Barrera, was robbed against John.
8. Winky Wright (U.S.A.) Wins over Mosley twice, Tito, Quartey, and Soliman are quite impressive. Lost a close but clear decision to a boxing master and he was 10 lbs heaver than he should have been.
9/10. Izzy Vasquez/Rafa Marquez (Mexico) both great champions who have split their first 2 meetings. So I can't decide which should be higher.


3 Fighters from US
3 From Mexico
2 From Snaggletooth Kingdom
1 From Phillipines
1 From Puerto Rico

American Bias? Eat a dick, you have 2 great champions who deserve to be high in the p4p top 10 but we have legends fighting in the US, so show more respect.

I can't wait for December 8thanother bitter little tszyu fan are we?

ThePlugInBabies
10-04-2007, 07:45 AM
another bitter little tszyu fan are we?

did you know they made tszyu fight at 2 o'clock in the morning? of course hatton was in a different timezone.

Boyd
10-04-2007, 07:52 AM
another bitter little tszyu fan are we?pretty sad if your still using this.

David UK
10-04-2007, 08:10 AM
I like Hatton, I gave him credit (#6 on my p4p list) he has beaten 2 Hall of Fame fighters and is the best 140 lb fighter in the world, but people saying "Floyd will wither from the pressue" shows a lack of respect for Floyd. Every fighter deserves some form of respect, it is just a shame fighters such as Hopkins and Taylor do not get this respect from many posters here. Taylor was an undefeaten champion with as good of a resmue has Hattons going into the Pavlik fight, he took a huge risk and lost a very good fight where he almost stopped Pav earlier on. Hatton deserves the same respect that Taylor deserves. The only problem he gets the respect and Jermain gets trashed. The brits are by far way more bias.

I respect Hatton, but I have anything but respect for many(not all) of the arrogant Brits on here. Who claim "the Yanks" are overrating "their fighters." Well most knowlegable "Yank" boxing fans give Hatton and Calzaghe their credit. Too bad the limeys don't do the same when it comes to Hopkins, Mayweather, and Taylor.

I would say 99% of British boxing fans have Mayweather(USA) in their top2 p-4-p lists, with most of them having him at number one. Furthermore many will have either Roy Jones(USA) or Ray leonard(USA) as the best fighter they have ever seen. Meanwhile,Taylor and to a lesser extent, Hopkins ARE overrated

ron u.k.
10-04-2007, 08:14 AM
pretty sad if your still using this.me? the tszyu fans still start threads on here to this day about how he was robbed and cheated.it's the the biggest and longest whinge in boxing history.

Boro chris
10-04-2007, 08:16 AM
I would say 99% of British boxing fans have Mayweather(USA) in their top2 p-4-p lists, with most of them having him at number one. Furthermore many will have either Roy Jones(USA) or Ray leonard(USA) as the best fighter they have ever seen. Meanwhile,Taylor and to a lesser extent, Hopkins ARE overrated

I agree totally. Only a few die hards believe that Hatton will beat Floyd but we support him regardless. Leonard, Jones and Hearns are the most natrually gifted fighters I have ever seen. Just because Arran is a Brit dosen't mean the rest of us don't appreciate other fighters from different nationalities.

BOOKA
10-04-2007, 08:26 AM
The USA is a huge country and it is a well known fact round the whole world that the majority of top boxers come from the USA

Just like it is a well known fact round the world that the majority of simpletons come from the USA

GazOC
10-04-2007, 08:33 AM
did you know they made tszyu fight at 2 o'clock in the morning? of course hatton was in a different timezone.

This excuse does still actually get used you know?:lol:

ThePlugInBabies
10-04-2007, 08:47 AM
This excuse does still actually get used you know?:lol:

i know, it's one of the most pitiful excuses i have ever heard.

eddie007
10-04-2007, 08:50 AM
These damn Brits are really getting cocky, talkinYg about how Hopkins has no change against Calzaghe, Kessler has no change against Calzaghe(even though I think Calzaghe will beat him, but the fight will be good and Kessler is a legit fighter). No one from 160-175 beats Joe. They want Calzaghes Junk in their mouth. Floyd can't deal will Hatton's pressure. Way too much American bias in the p4p rankings. Well here is a p4p list.

1. Floyd Mayweather (U.S.A.)
2. Manny Pacquaio (Phillipines)
3. Bernard Hopkins (U.S.A.) Yes handjob he deserves a spot there with wins over Winky, the first person to do it in nearly 10 years, Tarver, the consesus best Lt. Heavy in the world, Who the fuck is Erdei again?
A middleweight reign that was at least as impressive as Joes at 168.
4. Joe Calzaghe (U.K.) Great fighter, the best the British have seen since LL retired.
5. Miguel Cotto (PR) I know a US "Territory" but come on now, would a p4p fighter who came from Hong Kong 15 years ago be considered "British"
6. Ricky Hatton (U.K.) Wins over Zoo, and Castillo even those past prime he deserves to be here. That win over Kostya was partically impressive because Zoo just toasted Sharmba Mitchell in 3 the fight before. Maussa was a pretty good win as well. Still he is gonna get beat down by Floyd, and I like Hatton.
7. Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico) just came off a very good win against a fading but still possibly an elite Barrera, was robbed against John.
8. Winky Wright (U.S.A.) Wins over Mosley twice, Tito, Quartey, and Soliman are quite impressive. Lost a close but clear decision to a boxing master and he was 10 lbs heaver than he should have been.
9/10. Izzy Vasquez/Rafa Marquez (Mexico) both great champions who have split their first 2 meetings. So I can't decide which should be higher.


3 Fighters from US
3 From Mexico
2 From Snaggletooth Kingdom
1 From Phillipines
1 From Puerto Rico

American Bias? Eat a dick, you have 2 great champions who deserve to be high in the p4p top 10 but we have legends fighting in the US, so show more respect.

I can't wait for December 8th

TOSSER

Fedor Em
10-04-2007, 09:19 AM
TOSSER

Hey noob:hi: what alias are you?

Fedor Em
10-04-2007, 09:26 AM
I would say 99% of British boxing fans have Mayweather(USA) in their top2 p-4-p lists, with most of them having him at number one. Furthermore many will have either Roy Jones(USA) or Ray leonard(USA) as the best fighter they have ever seen. Meanwhile,Taylor and to a lesser extent, Hopkins ARE overrated

No they aren't Taylor is the #2 middleweight in the world right now and before the fight with Pavlik he was not higher than 10 on my list after that lackluster performance against Spinks. Besides 2 very close fights with Taylor(which he did lose) Hopkins has clearly won everyfight he has been in since he fought Roy in 93. That includes a middleweight reign as impressive as Calzaghes at supermiddle, if not more so. Plus wins over Winky (who had not lost in nearly 10 years, though he was about 10 lbs heavier than he should have been), and Tarver who was the Lt. Heavy champ. (Yes he was who has Erdei beat)?

ThePlugInBabies
10-04-2007, 09:56 AM
Junior Witter is a good fighter,better than Hatton

shouldn't floyd be getting in the ring with junior then, rather than ricky? or is floyd ducking junior? :think

ThePlugInBabies
10-04-2007, 10:02 AM
so it's all about the money with floyd? doesn't that frustrate you that your favourite boxer is only interested in the $$$$$$ and not cementing a legacy?

BeaverDan
10-04-2007, 10:18 AM
These damn Brits are really getting cocky, talking about how Hopkins has no change against Calzaghe, Kessler has no change against Calzaghe(even though I think Calzaghe will beat him, but the fight will be good and Kessler is a legit fighter). No one from 160-175 beats Joe. They want Calzaghes Junk in their mouth. Floyd can't deal will Hatton's pressure. Way too much American bias in the p4p rankings. Well here is a p4p list.

1. Floyd Mayweather (U.S.A.)
2. Manny Pacquaio (Phillipines)
3. Bernard Hopkins (U.S.A.) Yes handjob he deserves a spot there with wins over Winky, the first person to do it in nearly 10 years, Tarver, the consesus best Lt. Heavy in the world, Who the fuck is Erdei again?
A middleweight reign that was at least as impressive as Joes at 168.
4. Joe Calzaghe (U.K.) Great fighter, the best the British have seen since LL retired.
5. Miguel Cotto (PR) I know a US "Territory" but come on now, would a p4p fighter who came from Hong Kong 15 years ago be considered "British"
6. Ricky Hatton (U.K.) Wins over Zoo, and Castillo even those past prime he deserves to be here. That win over Kostya was partically impressive because Zoo just toasted Sharmba Mitchell in 3 the fight before. Maussa was a pretty good win as well. Still he is gonna get beat down by Floyd, and I like Hatton.
7. Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico) just came off a very good win against a fading but still possibly an elite Barrera, was robbed against John.
8. Winky Wright (U.S.A.) Wins over Mosley twice, Tito, Quartey, and Soliman are quite impressive. Lost a close but clear decision to a boxing master and he was 10 lbs heaver than he should have been.
9/10. Izzy Vasquez/Rafa Marquez (Mexico) both great champions who have split their first 2 meetings. So I can't decide which should be higher.


3 Fighters from US
3 From Mexico
2 From Snaggletooth Kingdom
1 From Phillipines
1 From Puerto Rico

American Bias? Eat a dick, you have 2 great champions who deserve to be high in the p4p top 10 but we have legends fighting in the US, so show more respect.

I can't wait for December 8th

Wow, you really proved your point and put it across quite nicely with your petty name calling i.e "Poms, Limeys and 'snaggletooth kingdom'". Well done FAT BOY (oh, did I just make a generalization? No way!).

Think about it. When Brits are trying to play down the opposition, they're going to say somethin'. If we think Floyd is going to win, we're not gonna' shout it from the roof tops you fool. This means that most Brits may even believe Floyd will win, but you don't hear from them because they don't want to go saying it.

Every country hypes their own sportsman. The media do it and we follow suit. So shut up crying and wait for the result you desperately crave.

Ziggy Montana
10-04-2007, 10:59 AM
Floyd is definitely going to wreck Hatton.
JC2006,

PBF has too much boxing genius for Hatton.

Calling this bout a wreckage/destruction is somewhat iffy.

Since the Gatti fight, PBF hasn't wrecked anyone, just did enough to win using his customary fencing style. The Baldomir, Judah and DLH fights were beautiful to watch from a technical standpoint but no sign there of PBF stepping into the ring with views on destroying his opponents.

Mayweather by UD. I don't expect too much emotion and not many defining moments, if any.

I would have preferred to see both fighters fighting at 140. Either one is more "destructive" at that weight, if destruction is what we like to see.

BTW, hello boxing fans. I'm new here.

Ziggy Montana
10-04-2007, 11:24 AM
so it's all about the money with floyd? doesn't that frustrate you that your favourite boxer is only interested in the $$$$$$ and not cementing a legacy?As far as cementing a legacy, beating DLH and eventually Hatton would look nice on any boxer's resume.

Taking on either the winner of Cotto/Mosley (well, that would be Cotto), Paul Williams or Antonio Margarito, and a decisive win against either one, would certainly confirm PBF's status as one of the all-time greats.

valdez
10-04-2007, 11:26 AM
Ricky's wrestling style isn't going to help him when he gets into the ring with PBF. Floyd's gonna make him look silly.

I couldn't even take you seriously with that name..

ThePlugInBabies
10-04-2007, 11:27 AM
As far as cementing a legacy, beating DLH and eventually Hatton would look nice on any boxer's resume.

Taking on either the winner of Cotto/Mosley (well, that would be Cotto), Paul Williams or Antonio Margarito, and a decisive win against either one, would certainly confirm PBF's status as one of the all-time greats.

i don't disagree with you, i'm simply pointing out the flaws in the arguement of this floyd nuthugger.

peter5
10-04-2007, 12:02 PM
Now please excuse me as i go nut in the queens face as i sing god bless america:patriot:patriot:patriot

So now its a nationality issue?! I thought this was about underrating US boxers?!?!?!:huh by us poms!

C Money
10-04-2007, 12:14 PM
I definitely hear some in this THREAD, FEEDING the US vs Int'l BS:-(

Boxing has a whole lot to do with PHYSICALITY, HEART, and SMARTS, rather than NATIONALITY:good Its PBF fans vs Hatton fans and there's gonna be at least 40 to 50% of the US fans that will be rooting for Hatton!!! Doesnt make two fucks where their from!

What happens when the bell rings?:huh :bbb vs :bbb ,

:boxx :boxx , :beat :beat ,:boxer :boxer, :ko :ko ,:bokc :cheers :klitfanb: :blackeye :party

Taffyy
10-04-2007, 12:54 PM
OMG did you just say these damn brits? OH OH look for Laffy, Taffy or whatever his name is to reign down on you with his Eurosnob Hatred for Americans and his Typical Generalizations of a whole Country, oh and his favorite line -This is why the rest of the world hates you- :yep
:yep :yep ......My favourite line is "brandon is a cunt"........:good
Its not americans in general , it penis's like your goodself Brand who ooze the arrogance & bullshit that I hate in some american posters on here....................Some of them dont rate any kind of boxing out of the states , Thats just naive & down right stupid.......:patsch
I could start a thread saying where is the passion in American boxing...???...........Why do they need a "eurobum" or a puerto rican at the party to sell out their big fights...........???...........America has some great fighters & equally great people but a few yanks would do well to realise that there is a big wide world out there & not just the good ol us of a on the map !!!!
By the way did I mention Brandon is a cunt.....:rofl

Fab2333
10-04-2007, 01:06 PM
:lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl
Prepare to be flamed!:yep:deal