Taylor fought Pavlik dirty...and lost.

[optvpixelpusher]

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So, is Taylor really just a hype-job. Or is Pavlik really a diamond-in-the-rough?

[PJ]

Isn't that some sh*t...

[JETSKI]

WOW! OK, I saw the elbow & the low blow before, but never knew he went after him with his head like that.

Looks like Taylor got exactly what the hell he deserved.\

BTW, that shot to the chops that was the beginning of the end...I could watch that alone for hours. Amazing how those coffee coolers went flapping all over the place!
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[Jose FM]

If Taylor had done that to Abraham in Germany he woulda have been deducted 5 points, and lost via homecourt advantage!

[unclepaulie]

yea i saw Taylor throw a few elbows during the fight im suprised no one else mentioned it.

[Toopretty]

Yo.........its a fucking boxing match...........if you slow mo any fucking boxing match you will see way more dirty tricks. Those tricks he did were veteran moves and completely normal and harmless. I bet you can slow mo pavlik doing a whole lot of dirty shit throught his career. He was not bowing for Pavliks face. he was trying to get his guard down. Dirty tricks happen every single fight. Fucking crazy ass retards. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING BOXING? LOL

[Toopretty]

Yeah I Guess You Did Not See Pavlik Rabbit Punch Taylor A Million And One Fucking Times During The Clinch. those Punches Were Behind The Ear As Taylor Hugged Him Tight. Fucking Maniacal Biased Retards.

[the_what]

Taylor has nothing on Tito or Mayweather when it comes to throwing them 'bows.

[Toopretty]

Taylor has nothing on Tito or Mayweather when it comes to throwing them 'bows.

MAYWEATHER DOES NOT THROW ELBOWS..HE PUSHES OFF WITH ELBOWS..SAME AS TAYLOR DID. HE PUSHED PAVLIK BACK B/C PAVLIK WAS TRYING TO CLINCH. IF MAYWEATHER THREW THOSE SHARP ELBOWS HE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF SUSHI SLICES ON HIS OPPONENTS.

[the_what]

MAYWEATHER DOES NOT THROW ELBOWS..HE PUSHES OFF WITH ELBOWS..SAME AS TAYLOR DID. HE PUSHED PAVLIK BACK B/C PAVLIK WAS TRYING TO CLINCH. IF MAYWEATHER THREW THOSE SHARP ELBOWS HE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF SUSHI SLICES ON HIS OPPONENTS.

Same difference.

[Stezzie]

Yeah I Guess You Did Not See Pavlik Rabbit Punch Taylor A Million And One Fucking Times During The Clinch. those Punches Were Behind The Ear As Taylor Hugged Him Tight. Fucking Maniacal Biased Retards.

Hey, it's useless to point out to the idiots how they are so biased...

[Toopretty]

there is no cure for boxing insanity. Like that does not happen in fight. I mean, how many championship fights have you guys watched. Guys do little dirty tricks every time out. Its only dirty if you get caught. You didnt see Pavlik complain..he is a fighter he is used to that shit. Shit Pavlik tried to grab hold of taylor's arm as he was going down. I guess that is legal b/c Pavlik did it.

[istmeno]

Yo.........its a fucking boxing match...........if you slow mo any fucking boxing match you will see way more dirty tricks. Those tricks he did were veteran moves and completely normal and harmless. I bet you can slow mo pavlik doing a whole lot of dirty shit throught his career. He was not bowing for Pavliks face. he was trying to get his guard down. Dirty tricks happen every single fight. Fucking crazy ass retards. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING BOXING? LOL

i agree with everything ou said, but that bow was not thrown to bring down his guard. it was intentional. that is clear.

now that being said. it is part of the game. elbows and low blows are part of the game. and when done properly it is an art form. i dislike dirty fighters who are blatant with this type of behavior because ussually it is used in place of skills. but i loved to watch bazooka gomez, pedroza, bhop. employ their trade. they were filthy, but subtlethey used every trick in the book and rarely were caught. they knew when and how to use every part of their anatomy at the appropriate time. to those complaining, quit crying. it is has been and always will be part of this game we love so much.

[tays001]

i agree with everything ou said, but that bow was not thrown to bring down his guard. it was intentional. that is clear.

now that being said. it is part of the game. elbows and low blows are part of the game. and when done properly it is an art form. i dislike dirty fighters who are blatant with this type of behavior because ussually it is used in place of skills. but i loved to watch bazooka gomez, pedroza, bhop. employ their trade. they were filthy, but subtlethey used every trick in the book and rarely were caught. they knew when and how to use every part of their anatomy at the appropriate time. to those complaining, quit crying. it is has been and always will be part of this game we love so much.

very true . but JT STILL GO KTFO:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[booradley]

I am amazed at all the people willing to defend Taylor's bullshit. He threw a BUNCH of elbows, I hadn't noticed the blatant headbutt. A fighter who can't win without cheating needs to be refused his license. This is something I feel VERY strongly about. Like Duran in the Davey Moore fight. I would have disqualified him long before he knocked Moore out! There are rules in boxing, and those who do not follow them are not professional boxers. They're just thugs.

Boo

[Toopretty]

I am amazed at all the people willing to defend Taylor's bullshit. He threw a BUNCH of elbows, I hadn't noticed the blatant headbutt. A fighter who can't win without cheating needs to be refused his license. This is something I feel VERY strongly about. Like Duran in the Davey Moore fight. I would have disqualified him long before he knocked Moore out! There are rules in boxing, and those who do not follow them are not professional boxers. They're just thugs.

Boo

Then Pavlik should of got DQ'd for rabbit punching behind the ear on every single clinch. :scaredas:

[El Bombasto]

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So, is Taylor really just a hype-job. Or is Pavlik really a diamond-in-the-rough?

Looks like Bernard rubbed off on him

[41fever]

Taylor has nothing on Tito or Mayweather when it comes to throwing them 'bows.TITO is the NUT MASTER and PBF is the ELBOW KING

[Thread Stealer]

TITO is the NUT MASTER and PBF is the ELBOW KING

Eusebio Pedroza had both of them beat in both categories.

B-Hop and Casamayor can duke it out as to the title of the current king of leading with his head.

[Thread Stealer]

I am amazed at all the people willing to defend Taylor's bullshit. He threw a BUNCH of elbows, I hadn't noticed the blatant headbutt. A fighter who can't win without cheating needs to be refused his license. This is something I feel VERY strongly about. Like Duran in the Davey Moore fight. I would have disqualified him long before he knocked Moore out! There are rules in boxing, and those who do not follow them are not professional boxers. They're just thugs.

Boo

The refs should enforce the rules more, however if you take away licenses for guys fighting dirty you'd be missing a shitload of fighters.

Most of the elite fighters know how to bend the rules to their advantage.

[nervousxtian]

Stupid shit, you slo-mo any fight and you'd get stuff like that.

That elbow was a great move, wasn't to hurt Pavlik but to move his arms so he could land.

You Pavlik lovers need to STFU already about stupid ass shit, your guy won. Stop the bullshit.

Taylor didn't fight anymore dirty than Kelly did... I noticed the video lacked all the rabbit shots that Kelly landed... wonder why...

[istmeno]

Eusebio Pedroza had both of them beat in both categories.

B-Hop and Casamayor can duke it out as to the title of the current king of leading with his head.

pedroza had a doctorate in the tricks of the trade.

[istmeno]

The refs should enforce the rules more, however if you take away licenses for guys fighting dirty you'd be missing a shitload of fighters.

Most of the elite fighters know how to bend the rules to their advantage.

i will go as far as to say there will be no fighters left. elbows headbutts, low blows come with the the territory

[PJD3]

Yo.........its a fucking boxing match...........if you slow mo any fucking boxing match you will see way more dirty tricks. Those tricks he did were veteran moves and completely normal and harmless. I bet you can slow mo pavlik doing a whole lot of dirty shit throught his career. He was not bowing for Pavliks face. he was trying to get his guard down. Dirty tricks happen every single fight. Fucking crazy ass retards. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING BOXING? LOL

Not all fighters!
Drity fighters are punk ass fighters, and I have no remorse when somebody takes take them out!

[Fab2333]

Yeah I Guess You Did Not See Pavlik Rabbit Punch Taylor A Million And One Fucking Times During The Clinch. those Punches Were Behind The Ear As Taylor Hugged Him Tight. Fucking Maniacal Biased Retards.

I was just about to say that you beat me to it, Pavlik was throwing a s**t load of rabbit punches when they clinched, and no1 aint sayin s**t about that. Common man you g2 b fair both ways, and Pavlik did that the whole fight. Give it a rest

[Doomas]

I was just about to say that you beat me to it, Pavlik was throwing a s**t load of rabbit punches when they clinched, and no1 aint sayin s**t about that. Common man you g2 b fair both ways, and Pavlik did that the whole fight. Give it a rest

Look at those again, it was not behind the ear shots.

[optvpixelpusher]

Yo.........its a fucking boxing match...........if you slow mo any fucking boxing match you will see way more dirty tricks. Those tricks he did were veteran moves and completely normal and harmless. I bet you can slow mo pavlik doing a whole lot of dirty shit throught his career. He was not bowing for Pavliks face. he was trying to get his guard down. Dirty tricks happen every single fight. Fucking crazy ass retards. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING BOXING? LOL

Longer than you RETARD. Kiss Taylor ass if you want to I don't care. Bottomline is that it got caught on video so you don't have to take my word for it. Just watch the fucking video. Now, those things happen all the time in ANY boxing match. All I'm saying is that Taylor utilized all these neat "veteran moves" out of desperation maybe and still lost.

If you have been boxing long enough as I have, you'll know that the elbow JT threw was meant to be an elbow, intended to hit the side of the face if not the guarding arm. He threw that elbow from the hip that's why it was so obvious. That elbow wasn't meant as a push like what Mayweather does, it was a clear strike.

The lowblow may be arguable because you guys might say that JT was aiming for the midsection, but notice how low he was crouched/bent. That punch didn't come from the side like most midsection shots it came from under like an uppercut only low...he was clearly gunning for the thigh muscles...and Pavlik felt it. Try hitting yourself lightly on the same spot you'll see what I'm talking about. That was meant to HURT much later in the fight, because blood buildup takes a bit of time and when it does, movement is hampered.

The headbutt IS a HEADBUTT and not some defensive shit for Pavlik's rabbit punching. Like most Taylor apologists here said, Pavlik was rabbit punching the whole match (same with Taylor who in fact hit in the ears) but notice how JT didn't employ that same rabbit-punch "defensive" manuever during the whole time he was in the situation. If that was meant as a defense, you'd get that move everytime Pavlik tried to rabbit punch. See also where he brought that forehead - straight into Pavlik's nose and Taylor even bent back a bit before bringing it down for more force. The ref saw it also that's why he halted the two, but since Pavlik isn't complaning, and no damage has been done, no need to issue a warning.

So quit calling people who caught your man cheating retards. Dirty boxing will always be part of the game. I just edited it in video so that you Taylor apologists and nuthuggers would have something to think about. TAYLOR USED EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK AGAINST PAVLIK AND STILL LOST.

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I had obviously picked Pavlik for months before the fight, and as I watched it a good few times now I never noticed anything dirty other than that low blow (which was nothing like one of those blatant uppercuts to the sack like Miranda threw.).

[Vantage_West]

MAYWEATHER DOES NOT THROW ELBOWS..HE PUSHES OFF WITH ELBOWS..SAME AS TAYLOR DID. HE PUSHED PAVLIK BACK B/C PAVLIK WAS TRYING TO CLINCH. IF MAYWEATHER THREW THOSE SHARP ELBOWS HE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF SUSHI SLICES ON HIS OPPONENTS.

i felt that elbow taylor threw was a push off but keley moved away anyway so whap on the neck.

and lowblows.....man some guys were saying cotto didnt mean those lowblows...yet think that tap on the shorts is a big big evil rule breaking dirty move..:huh

it's a fight you try and hit guys and you will get hit by an elbow a head tread on the shoes hit low and gouge but by no means was this purposful

[PH|LLA]

lol even in victory the Pavlik huggers find excuses

if you get away with it then its to your credit, wether its legal or not.

Also the judges had the scores down 100% accurate. 4 rounds to 2 for Taylor with one 10-8 round

[Fab2333]

lol even in victory the Pavlik huggers find excuses

if you get away with it then its to your credit, wether its legal or not.

Also the judges had the scores down 100% accurate. 4 rounds to 2 for Taylor with one 10-8 round

lol i know its funny right, common people give it a rest

[hacim419]

watching the fight as a whole I didn't think it was a dirty fight at all, so what if Taylor threw an elbow? The Ghost made him pay for it later.

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So, is Taylor really just a hype-job. Or is Pavlik really a diamond-in-the-rough?

Gosh, been a year since I last posted here..didn't know this question would be answered in that span of time. :D sweet.