Rate these 4 guys punching power at 147

[anarci]

Okay I wanted to know how youd rate these guys in order as far as pure punching power mine looks like this

Hearns Im not sure if he hit harder than Pipino,but since he moved up and was still a bomber ill give it too him
Cuevas- Very close see^
Lopez- I think he was close to the other 2 but didnt have the resume
Tito- Hit awfully hard but dont see him hitting as hard as these guys

Ok as you can see im only putting guys in the last 40 years on my recent threads regarding punching power. (last one Lightweights)

The reason i didnt put a 5th one was cause to many guys could make a case for 5th Curry,Brown,Quartey,Palomino,Breland,Delahoya,Mosley,Napoloes,Yori Boy Margo,Jones,Page,Espana etc etc

[AlFrancis]

I think Colin Jones deserves a mention based on pure punching power.

[anarci]

I think Colin Jones deserves a mention based on pure punching power. :nono Not with the 4 i mentioned. Those guys definitly harder than Colin,who went 24 tough rounds with Mccory without dropping him.

He probably deserves an honarable mention with those other guys though.

Donald Curry only needed 2 rounds to get Ice Mccory.

[WhataRock]

Thats not really the way to look at it anarci.

I mean Curtis Ramsey went the rounds with Curry...And though he ended up being DQ'd for it Jones apparently had Curtis out for the count but caught him with another glancing shot when he was down.

Power is one thing...having the ability to land with it is another.

Seeing this is a thread about punching power then he is a fair shout.

But he could bloody well hit...Perhaps not as hard as those 4..But probably deserves a mention over some of the 5th placed candidates.

I havent seen the first McCrory bout but from what Ive read he busted Milton up and had him backing up in survival mode for a lot of the fight. Dont necessarily need to knock a dude out to show you have power.

[anarci]

Thats not really the way to look at it anarci.

I mean Curtis Ramsey went the rounds with Curry...And though he ended up being DQ'd for it Jones apparently had Curtis out for the count but caught him with another glancing shot when he was down.

Power is one thing...having the ability to land with it is another.

Seeing this is a thread about punching power then he is a fair shout.

But he could bloody well hit...Perhaps not as hard as those 4..But probably deserves a mention over some of the 5th placed candidates.

I havent seen the first McCrory bout but from what Ive read he busted Milton up and had him backing up in survival mode for a lot of the fight. Dont necessarily need to knock a dude out to show you have power.

Ok fair enough good points i put him with the honorable mention and i also put in James Page and Crisanto Espana i just didnt want to add so many because then id have to add another dozen.
Should Stracey be on that honorable mention list? Pac? Cotto? i could probably keep going

[mcvey]

Ok fair enough good points i put him with the honorable mention and i also put in James Page and Crisanto Espana i just didnt want to add so many because then id have to add another dozen.
Should Stracey be on that honorable mention list? Pac? Cotto? i could probably keep going

Stracey could not hit like Jones ,and probably not any harder than Dave Green .
Jones could whack but tended to throw them one at a time,clever boxers could sometimes stay one step ahead of him, eg McCrory,Laing too, for quite a while in two fights before Jones connected .

[anarci]

Thread is going the wrong way should have mentioned anyone else but those 4

[AlFrancis]

Ok fair enough good points i put him with the honorable mention and i also put in James Page and Crisanto Espana i just didnt want to add so many because then id have to add another dozen.
Should Stracey be on that honorable mention list? Pac? Cotto? i could probably keep going


I wouldn't put Stracey in the same league as Jones. Colin deserves a mention though in the honorable mentions.

[Flea Man]

Stracey wasn't that much of a hitter.

Out of these, Hearns is clearly the biggest and best puncher

[Stevie G]

:nono Not with the 4 i mentioned. Those guys definitly harder than Colin,who went 24 tough rounds with Mccory without dropping him.

He probably deserves an honarable mention with those other guys though.

Donald Curry only needed 2 rounds to get Ice Mccory.
That right hand that Curry used for the ko punch !! It was after McCrory had got up from the first knockdown,and Curry had the air of a man thinking "I know exactly where I'm going to place this punch 3-2-1" he just strolled up to Milton and delivered it. Incredible.

[anarci]

Stracey wasn't that much of a hitter.

Out of these, Hearns is clearly the biggest and best puncherClearly? You dont think Cuevas is close? I have a dvd of his greatest kos and hes one of the biggest punchers of all time in any weight IMO.

[WhataRock]

Id say its between Hearns and Cueves anywho.

Hearns has the overall effectiveness because of his advantages in speed, timing and physicality. And given that Id probably side with Pipino because he was just raw power personified.

[anarci]

That right hand that Curry used for the ko punch !! It was after McCrory had got up from the first knockdown,and Curry had the air of a man thinking "I know exactly where I'm going to place this punch 3-2-1" he just strolled up to Milton and delivered it. Incredible. Yes up there with one of the most impressive kos ive seen. Remember my dad kept insisting that Curry was gonna kill Mccory. I was stubborn and didnt see that happening I had Mccory( I was only a young teen:lol:)
Lot of people thought Mccory might do it,Curry was only a slight favorite, but he made it look like Mccory was not even on his level, treated him like a Clubfighter/Journeyman.

[anarci]

Id say its between Hearns and Cueves anywho.

Hearns has the overall effectiveness because of his advantages in speed, timing and physicality. And given that Id probably side with Pipino because he was just raw power personified. :good Yey thats exactly how i see it. Agree with everyting you said.

[Flea Man]

Clearly? You dont think Cuevas is close? I have a dvd of his greatest kos and hes one of the biggest punchers of all time in any weight IMO.

Yeah, but who did he stop?

I really like Cuevas, and in terms of pure power he's hard to topple at 147. But I'd go for Hearns in a heartbeat. I have quite a few fights of Cuevas on DVD, but I thought that meant I wasn't qualified to make an opinion:lol::good

[anarci]

Yeah, but who did he stop?

I really like Cuevas, and in terms of pure power he's hard to topple at 147. But I'd go for Hearns in a heartbeat. I have quite a few fights of Cuevas on DVD, but I thought that meant I wasn't qualified to make an opinion:lol::good No you are somewhat qualified,just not as qulified as the OGs like me and others:lol:
Cuevas did ko some good fighters. Thats kind of what im talking about anyone who was fan around that time would know that


Angel Espada kod 3 times once in he 2nd was a very good fighter and Champ

Harold Weston- was also good enough to draw with Benitez and take Hearns best shots and gave him hell before suffering a detached retina.
Cuevas broke his jaw and stopped him

Pete Ranzany- Very good fighter blown out by Cuevas

Billy Backus-Former champ blown out

Clyde Gray- Very good top contender and a Canadian legend Blown out!

[AlFrancis]

I think Cuevas was a huge puncher at his peak he literally left a trail of broken jaws and eye sockets in his wake.

[Sweet Pea]

That guy Ray Robinson wasn't much of a fighter, and probably not worthy of an honorable mention, but I just felt like mentioning him. Maybe someone could find it in their hearts to list him somwhere amongst these guys.

[AlFrancis]

That guy Ray Robinson wasn't much of a fighter, and probably not worthy of an honorable mention, but I just felt like mentioning him. Maybe someone could find it in their hearts to list him somwhere amongst these guys.


It's only welters over the last 40 years.

[anarci]

That guy Ray Robinson wasn't much of a fighter, and probably not worthy of an honorable mention, but I just felt like mentioning him. Maybe someone could find it in their hearts to list him somwhere amongst these guys. (Last 40 Years) Read the Thread!! Or are you another ESB poster that has a selective reading disability:think

[My2Sense]

1. Hearns
2. Cuevas
3. Lopez
4. Tito

I could see Cuevas and Lopez possibly being switched, but I'd say Hearns should be on top and Tito at the bottom.

[Flea Man]

No you are somewhat qualified,just not as qulified as the OGs like me and others:lol:
Cuevas did ko some good fighters. Thats kind of what im talking about anyone who was fan around that time would know that


Angel Espada kod 3 times once in he 2nd was a very good fighter and Champ

Harold Weston- was also good enough to draw with Benitez and take Hearns best shots and gave him hell before suffering a detached retina.
Cuevas broke his jaw and stopped him

Pete Ranzany- Very good fighter blown out by Cuevas

Billy Backus-Former champ blown out

Clyde Gray- Very good top contender and a Canadian legend Blown out!

I know who all of these guys are.

Not as impressive as Hearns stopping Pipino himself IMO. And in such fashion.

[anarci]

I know who all of these guys are.

Not as impressive as Hearns stopping Pipino himself IMO. And in such fashion.True and Duran was the other HOF. I see what your saying though as Cuevas kod some pretty good fighters but never kod a HOF.
Hearns kod 2 HOF

[Flea Man]

True and Duran was the other HOF. I see what your saying though as Cuevas kod some pretty good fighters but never kod a HOF.
Hearns kod 2 HOF

Duran was at 154 though, and didn't make up part of my argument.

Cuevas could really hit.

What do you know of Jose Palacios? Watched his fight with Cuevas the other day.

[turpinr]

hearns is the biggest hitting welter....................ever

[anarci]

Duran was at 154 though, and didn't make up part of my argument.

Cuevas could really hit.

What do you know of Jose Palacios? Watched his fight with Cuevas the other day.
Yey i should have just mentioned his fights at 147 since that was this thread is on.

Anyways Palacios was a pretty good fighter who was on the wrong end of some decision losses. Also hung tough with Palomino.
I think I have his fight with Cuevas havent checked that one out in a while. I do know his record was much better than what Boxing records has. They probably dont have records of all his fights in MExico as i know thats where most of his fights were.
My dad knows more about him as he fought out in LA back in the 70s(i was too young to go to the fights then)

[Azania]

Love this thread...To me it comes down to Hearns and Cuevas...Pipino may have well had concussive power at WW..probably on par if not better than Tommy shot-for-shot...

The edge tho'...must go to the Hitman..purely for speed and leverage height...Tommy,lank as he was,punched from a downward angle on almost all of his WW fights,which helps with generating leverage...

The speed and the volume gives The Hitman the edge.But Pipino was no too far behind.Their cannot be used as a measuring stick...purely because Tommy simply never allowed Cuevas to get off...closed shop on him with an avalanche of bombs until he went down.

Great thread tho'.

[anarci]

Love this thread...To me it comes down to Hearns and Cuevas...Pipino may have well had concussive power at WW..probably on par if not better than Tommy shot-for-shot...

The edge tho'...must go to the Hitman..purely for speed and leverage height...Tommy,lank as he was,punched from a downward angle on almost all of his WW fights,which helps with generating leverage...

The speed and the volume gives The Hitman the edge.But Pipino was no too far behind.Their cannot be used as a measuring stick...purely because Tommy simply never allowed Cuevas to get off...closed shop on him with an avalanche of bombs until he went down.

Great thread tho'.:good:good

[anarci]

:bbb

[teeto]

Hearns would be the number one for pure power imo, that was silly power that he had at 147.

[GPater11093]

Stracey wasn't that much of a hitter.

Out of these, Hearns is clearly the biggest and best puncher

Nah, Stracey could bang. Really big left hook. You seen him win the British title? He does it with one left hook and takes the guys head off.

Also who the fuck is Lopez? I cant think who it is, I'm probably going to realise as soon as someone says and think I'm an idiot.

[anarci]

Nah, Stracey could bang. Really big left hook. You seen him win the British title? He does it with one left hook and takes the guys head off.

Also who the fuck is Lopez? I cant think who it is, I'm probably going to realise as soon as someone says and think I'm an idiot.

Thats Jose Luis Lopez who was a huge banger in the 90s. Im guessing that you know who im talking about now.

[GPater11093]

Name rings a bell but I aint seen him. I know who your on about but I know nothing about him.

[Duodenum]

Randy Shields penned an analysis of SRL-Hearns I where he accurately predicted Ray's win. He went 12 rounds with Tommy and the full distance with Pipino, and stated that he was sure Hearns was a harder puncher than Cuevas. (Whether or not Tommy could have stood up to Pipino's power if Cuevas had managed to land first is an entirely different matter.)