UFC 109 prediction league: Relentless Randy Couture vs. Mark Coleman

[LHL]

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Main Card

Light Heavyweight bout: Randy Couture vs. Mark Coleman
Middleweight bout: Nate Marquardt vs. Chael Sonnen
Welterweight bout: Mike Swick vs. Paulo Thiag
Middleweight bout: Demian Maia vs. Dan Miller
Welterweight bout: Matt Serra vs. Frank Trigg
Preliminary Card: on Spike TV think its on ESPN over here

Lightweight bout: Mac Danzig vs. ****** Buchholz
Lightweight bout: Melvin Guillard vs. Ronnys Torres

Non-televised:
Lightweight bout: Phillipe Nover vs. Rob Emerson
Light Heavyweight bout: Brian Stann vs. Phil Davis
Heavyweight bout: Tim Hague vs. Chris Tuchscherer
Heavyweight bout: Rolles Gracie vs. Joey Beltran

Leader board
One Punch KO - 118
Ajax - 105
Sugarngold - 103
LB 3000 - 87
LHL - 84
Grievesy - 74
IntentionalButt - 74
Codemann99998 - 52
2FastByFar - 50
Sammie - 37
rekcutnevets - 28
Boyd - 28
Homicide Henry - 12
Tri-pod - 11

Rules/points
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[HomicideHenry]

Light Heavyweight bout: Randy Couture vs. Mark Coleman
Middleweight bout: Nate Marquardt vs. Chael Sonnen
Welterweight bout: Mike Swick vs. Paulo Thiag
Middleweight bout: Demian Maia vs. Dan Miller
Welterweight bout: Matt Serra vs. Frank Trigg
Preliminary Card: on Spike TV think its on ESPN over here

Lightweight bout: Mac Danzig vs. ****** Buchholz
Lightweight bout: Melvin Guillard vs. Ronnys Torres

Non-televised:
Lightweight bout: Phillipe Nover vs. Rob Emerson
Light Heavyweight bout: Brian Stann vs. Phil Davis
Heavyweight bout: Tim Hague vs. Chris Tuchscherer
Heavyweight bout: Rolles Gracie vs. Joey Beltran

Call me crazy, but I'm going with Coleman. Him and Nog were really the only two guys to give Fedor problems. I like Randy Couture, he's undeniably the strongest small heavyweight I have seen in years, considering his advanced age, but Coleman is the superior wrestler. For Couture to win he will have to turn this into a slugfest---and Coleman is no stranger to that world either.

[LHL]

If you pick the method and the round of victory Henry you get a lot more points

[scurlaruntings]

Odd to think that Mark was on the prelims when he fought Bonnar and didnt even make the air. Now he's main event because he's fighting Couture.

[tri-pod]

Randy Couture via UD
Nate Marquardt via T/KO 1
Mike Swick UD
Dan Miller UD
Serra sub 2 via gogoplata


****** Buchholz UD
Melvin Guillard UD


Rob Emerson T/KO 3

[Rattler]

Call me crazy, but I'm going with Coleman. Him and Nog were really the only two guys to give Fedor problems. I like Randy Couture, he's undeniably the strongest small heavyweight I have seen in years, considering his advanced age, but Coleman is the superior wrestler. For Couture to win he will have to turn this into a slugfest---and Coleman is no stranger to that world either.

How is Coleman as a wrestler, "superior" to an Olympic level wrestler?

[codeman99998]

How is Coleman as a wrestler, "superior" to an Olympic level wrestler?

Because Coleman actually finished 7th in the 1992 olympics and Randy was just an American alternate?

[Rattler]

Because Coleman actually finished 7th in the 1992 olympics and Randy was just an American alternate?

That's fine, but the connotation of "superior" designates the idea that Couture wouldn't belong on a mat with Mark Coleman, which is facetious, in my opinion. In an MMA cage, Couture's wrestling is just as good as Coleman's - if not better, because Couture isn't going to gas midway through each round.

[LHL]

Couture TKO 3
Nate Marquardt TKO 2
Mike Swick UD
Maia Triangle choke 1
Serra TKO 2

Danzig UD
Ronnys Torres Triangle choke 2
Emerson UD
Davis TKO 1
Hague UD
Rolles Armbar 2

[LB3000]

Randy Couture KO/TKO 2
Nate Marquardt Sub (Guillotine) 2
Paulo Thiago UD
Demian Maia (RNC) 2
Matt Serra KO/TKO 1

Mac Danzig Sub (RNC) 2
Ronnys Torres Sub (Guillotine) 1
Phillipe Nover UD
Phil Davis UD
Tim Hague KO/TKO 2
Rolles Gracie Sub (Armbar) 1

[Sammie]

Coleman UD
Sonnen UD
Swick UD
Maia sub 2
Serra TKO 1

Buchholz UD
Guillard UD

[sugarngold]

Randy Couture TKO3
Nate Marquardt UD 3
Paulo Thiag UD
Demian Maia guillotine rd 2
Matt Serra armbar rd 3
Mac Danzig UD
Melvin Guillard TKO2
Rob Emerson UD
Brian Stann TKO2
Tim Hague UD
Rolles Gracie guillotine rd1

[Boyd]

Quick question as i am new to this. do you get bonus for what type of sub? i notice some guys put like a triangle 2nd round. others will just put sub second round.

[LB3000]

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:lol: at 2:38 mark, looked like it took a lot out of him.

[ufoalf]

Nate is gona rape Sonnen. That's my prediction.
He's going to physically force Sonnen to bend over and then he'll have his way with him.

[LHL]

Quick question as i am new to this. do you get bonus for what type of sub? i notice some guys put like a triangle 2nd round. others will just put sub second round.

Yep you get another 3 if i remember right, i remember at least one person got it last year

[sugarngold]

Quick question as i am new to this. do you get bonus for what type of sub? i notice some guys put like a triangle 2nd round. others will just put sub second round.

Yes. You get three extra points if you name the exact submission used!

[LHL]

:bump

a few posters missing

[AJAX]

coleman UD.....yea I said it.
Nate tko 3
Swick UD
Serra UD
Miller tko 2

Danzig sub 2 rnc
Gulliard tko 1

Tuchsherer tko 1
Davis UD
Nover sub 2 rnc
Gracie sub 1 triangle


:hat
props to LHL for taking the time to do this:good

[Sardu]

Couture by UD

[Mazallan]

Randy Couture vs. Mark Coleman
Nate Marquardt vs. Chael Sonnen
Mike Swick vs. Paulo Thiag
Demian Maia vs. Dan Miller
Matt Serra vs. Frank Trigg


Mac Danzig vs. ****** Buchholz
Melvin Guillard vs. Ronnys Torres

Phillipe Nover vs. Rob Emerson
Brian Stann vs. Phil Davis
Tim Hague vs. Chris Tuchscherer
Rolles Gracie vs. Joey Beltran



Winners in bold.

[codeman99998]

Randy Couture vs. Mark Coleman Via UD
Nate Marquardt vs. Chael Sonnen KO1
Mike Swick vs. Paulo Thiag KO1
Demian Maia vs. Dan Miller Sub 1 triangle
Matt Serra vs. Frank Trigg Sub 1 RNC
Danzig vs. ****** Buchholz sub 3 RNC
Melvin Guillard vs. Ronnys Torres KO1

Phillipe Nover vs. Rob Emerson UD
Tim Hague vs. Chris Tuchscherer KO1
Rolles Gracie vs. Joey Beltran Sub 2 something

and yes, I for some reason believe that the first fighter listed is going to win every fight.

It's going to be a short night!

[One Punch KO]

Time to hold onto my No. 1 spot...

Mark Coleman KO/TKO 2
Nate Marquardt KO/TKO 1
Mike Swick UD
Demian Maia SUB 2 (RNC)
Matt Serra UD

Mac Danzig UD
Ronnys Torres SUB 2 (Armbar)

Rob Emerson UD
Brian Stann UD
Tim Hague SUB 2 (RNC)
Rolles Gracie KO/TKO 1

[Grievesy]

Couture UD
Marquardt TKO 1
Swick UD
Maia Sub 1 Triangle
Serra UD
Danzig UD
Guillard TKO 1
Emerson UD
Davis TKO 1
Hague TKO 2
Gracie Sub 1 Armbar

[rekcutnevets]

Coleman UD
Marquardt tko 2
Thiago UD
Maia sub 2 rnc
Serra sub 2 rnc
Danzig tko 2
Guillard tko 1
Emerson ud
Davis tko 1
Hague tko 1
Gracie sub 1 armbar

[sugarngold]

Wow. Lots of last minute Coleman money flooding in. You guys must be thinking his power is going to be too much for Randy - because it sure as hell won't be his cardio.

[Boyd]

randy-ud
nate- tko-2
swick-ud
maia-RNC-1
serra-tko-2
danzig-ud
guil-ard-tko-2
nover ud-
davis ud
hague tko-3
graice-ud
0-2 so far

[Polymath]

Damien Maia shouldn't be fighting, he suffered a bad concussion less than 6 months ago.

[HomicideHenry]

That's fine, but the connotation of "superior" designates the idea that Couture wouldn't belong on a mat with Mark Coleman, which is facetious, in my opinion. In an MMA cage, Couture's wrestling is just as good as Coleman's - if not better, because Couture isn't going to gas midway through each round.

Coleman IS the superior wrestler not only because of his amateur credentails being higher than Couture's but because of his two matches with Fedor. Coleman is one of two men (Nog is the other) who gave Fedor the toughest contests of his career. This, of course, is just my opinion. I think Coleman takes a decision over Couture.

[sugarngold]

Coleman IS the superior wrestler not only because of his amateur credentails being higher than Couture's but because of his two matches with Fedor. Coleman is one of two men (Nog is the other) who gave Fedor the toughest contests of his career. This, of course, is just my opinion. I think Coleman takes a decision over Couture.

You are correct to a certain extent - but tonight will show Randy's Greco Roman wrestling to be superior to Coleman's freestyle wrestling.

[rekcutnevets]

I am worried about Coleman's cardio holding up, but he may be able to make 3 rounds. Coleman was coming off a 2 year lay off against Rua, and took the 3rd against Bonnar. I would hope that his cardio has improved slightly. I am also concerned about his lack of power at this lower weight, which may mean no extra hormones.

I went with Coleman because he is the superior wrestler. Coleman won a spot on the Olympic team, is the reason Kerr didn't make an Olympic team, and is a higher caliber wrestler than Randleman or Barnett. Coleman handled Severn easily, and Severn isn't that far below Couture in the wrestling food chain.

However this is an mma bout, and Coleman is not the same now as he was against Severn. My initial thought was Couture by 3rd round submission/tko. I've decided to take the underdog based on superior wrestling technique.

[sugarngold]

I am worried about Coleman's cardio holding up, but he may be able to make 3 rounds. Coleman was coming off a 2 year lay off against Rua, and took the 3rd against Bonnar. I would hope that his cardio has improved slightly. I am also concerned about his lack of power at this lower weight, which may mean no extra hormones.

I went with Coleman because he is the superior wrestler. Coleman won a spot on the Olympic team, is the reason Kerr didn't make an Olympic team, and is a higher caliber wrestler than Randleman or Barnett. Coleman handled Severn easily, and Severn isn't that far below Couture in the wrestling food chain.

However this is an mma bout, and Coleman is not the same now as he was against Severn. My initial thought was Couture by 3rd round submission/tko. I've decided to take the underdog based on superior wrestling technique.

Well said. It's too bad Coleman is going to get smashed now! :good

[sugarngold]

Well said. It's too bad Coleman is going to get smashed now! :good

:bbb:hey:yep:good

[FORMIDABLE]

Mark Coleman looked like he was 99 years old tonight. The guy should retire. He has no business fighting against the top guys, let alone headlining in a Main Event. I've got a funny feeling now that Tito was trashtalking him Dana might try to make that fight, regardless of what happens in the Tito-Liddell rubber match.

[AJAX]

That's because Tito likes fighting the over 40 club like Shamrock,Chuck and maybe Coleman if he can.

[LHL]

Grievesy - 40
Sugarngold - 40
LB3000 - 39
Boyd - 39
LHL - 39
Sammie - 34
rekcutnevits - 34
One Punch KO - 28
AJAX - 26
Codeman99998 - 23
Tri-pod - 22
Mazallan - 20
Homicide Henry - 16
Sardu - 4

Any corrections just post i'll get the overall ones done tomorrow

[sugarngold]

Thanks, LHL!

[Grievesy]

Yeah boi!!!!!!!:smoke

[LHL]

One Punch KO - 146
Sugarngold - 143
Ajax - 131
LB 3000 - 126
LHL - 123
Grievesy - 114
Codemann99998 - 75
IntentionalButt - 74
Sammie - 71
rekcutnevets - 62
Boyd - 67
2FastByFar - 50
Tri-pod - 33
Homicide Henry - 28
Mazallan - 20
Sardu - 4