DeGale: “I’d love to knock the silly ugly ginger kid out!”

[GladiatoR]

James DeGale has responded to George Groves' fight offer saying he'd be happy to take the fight, and that it would be a "pleasure to get in the ring with him and knock him out." DeGale told the Sun newspaper’s Gavin Glicksman: "The silly little ginger kid, well, what I say is go and speak to my promoter as I'll box anyone Frank puts in front of me.
"I'd like to fight Groves and stick him 10 spaces back in his career, if he really wants that, because he'd get knocked out.
"So speak to my promoter and we'll get it on — sooner rather than later.
"I'd love to knock the ugly ginger kid out!"
Groves' trainer Adam Booth said yesterday he felt there was no better place for the two rising super-middleweight stars to settle their old rivalry than on the same bill as David Haye's WBA world heavyweight title defence against John Ruiz at Manchester’s M.E.N Arena on 3 April.
"You can't get a bigger stage than a world heavyweight championship fight," he said.
"Not only will the world's media be watching, but Groves and DeGale would also box in front of a sold-out crowd at the MEN Arena. There would be plenty of incentive for both men.
"George doesn't want to wait and risk the fight never happening - he wants to meet DeGale as soon as possible and he wants to do it on the biggest stage possible."
Olympic gold medallist DeGale seems to echo that view, saying, "We could wait until further down the line, but I'd rather just get it over and done with."
He was also keen to stress he feels Groves didn't deserve to win their fight in the amateurs, adding; "Robbed, robbed, robbed, he robbed me. It was a close competitive fight but I should have won.
"But as I say, that was in the amateur days and we're pros now. I'm coming on leaps and bounds and it'll be my pleasure to get in the ring with him and knock him out."
The war of words looks set to rumble on then, and fans will now have to wait and see if the rivals' promoters can agree a deal.


:lol:

[Sai]

Would be great to watch, but unfortunately its just not going to happen.

[KingCobra]

"Robbed, robbed, robbed, he robbed me. It was a close competitive fight but I should have won."

If it was close and competetive how the hell does that constitute a robbery?

[Mazallan]

The ginger comment was good.

[DOM5153]

Degale wins this

[SouthpawSlayer]

lol

[essexboy]

Wont happen.

[pijo]

I'd love this to happen but no way it does.

[BIG WORM]

Degale would beat him up !!!!

[icemax]

“I’d love to knock the silly ugly ginger kid out!” --Fuck me, thats not nice...I wasn't even aware that he knew D-MAC :huh

On a serious note, on the evidence so far Groves wins this every day of the week

[Mazallan]

Groves looked awful for awhile in his last fight. I am not on the hype yet. His opponents have been a joke so far so too early to tell if he is really 'that' good.

[mryeags]

Groves looked awful for awhile in his last fight. I am not on the hype yet. His opponents have been a joke so far so too early to tell if he is really 'that' good.

Ditto De Gale too :good

[Losfer_Words]

And DeGale wonders why people don't like him. DeGale's attempts to create a 'bad boy' persona are cringeworthy; at least Tyson Fury can pull it off as he's genuinely funny. DeGale's happy slaps won't touch the Saint. Easy work for Groves, IMO. If it doesn't happen now or at British level then the fight will never happen as Groves is a step above DeGale and is going to higher places, IMHO.

That said, the very fact Degale's pissing people off is good news for him as we're all talking about him.

[kosaros]

Like I said in another thread, we need personalities like DeGale in boxing - gets people excited about this fight against Groves, and he will be the one selling the fight if it does get made (which it should do.... in 2-4 years time!).

Having said that, Haye was criticised on here for calling Valuev "ugly", so I don't see why a prick like DeGale should be 'spared' from the criticism :yep

[Losfer_Words]

Like I said in another thread, we need personalities like DeGale in boxing - gets people excited about this fight against Groves, and he will be the one selling the fight if it does get made (which it should do.... in 2-4 years time!).

Having said that, Haye was criticised on here for calling Valuev "ugly", so I don't see why a prick like DeGale should be 'spared' from the criticism :yep

Indeed. But, to be fair to Haye, by that stage you have to remember that he was a former European, WBA, WBC, WBO, Ring and Lineal champ at CW. All in just a measly 20-odd fights.

I personally am not a DeGale hater, but I can see why others can't stand him.

[Lee Mc]

This would be a VERY easy fight for Groves in my opinion.

He'd pick Degale off all throughout the fight and would win an embarrassingly easy decision. Hence the reason it will never take place.

[Dan684]

Whats the difference between hair colour and skin colour ??? If Groves was to react to these comments himself with an immature remark about DeGales personal appearance then the press would be up in arms. I hope Groves gets him in a ring as soon as and puts a stop to this chunky train before its gets to super WBA International/Intrim status. TWAT

[The_Real_Deal]

Groves was poor last time out. Before that bout I would have picked him to beat Chunky, not so sure now.

[AndrewFFC]

Whats the difference between hair colour and skin colour ???

You cant be a cunt with ginger skin.

[D-MAC]

“I’d love to knock the silly ugly ginger kid out!” --Fuck me, thats not nice...I wasn't even aware that he knew D-MAC :huh



Hardy har har har:lol::nut

You're gonna run and run with that one, aren't ya?

[rooq]

Degale would beat him up !!!!

neither looked great last time out, but i think groves walks through those slaps degale seems to favour.

[BoroBoxing1]

Groves looked awful for awhile in his last fight. I am not on the hype yet. His opponents have been a joke so far so too early to tell if he is really 'that' good.


He beat Samuels in his second fight thats a good scalp in your second fight. :bbb

[rusticraver]

Groves was poor last time out. Before that bout I would have picked him to beat Chunky, not so sure now.

Correct me if im wrong but didnt he have quite a big break when setanta went bust?

[Strike]

Whats the difference between hair colour and skin colour ??? I

A lot. When were Ginger people shipped as slaves? When were Ginger people barred from hotels and shops with signs outside comparing them to dogs? How many violent political groups in the UK have targeted Ginger people and their businesses?
When did Ginger people playing for their country get pelted with missiles and abused by their own fans?

And so on...

[D-MAC]

A lot. When were Ginger people shipped as slaves? When were Ginger people barred from hotels and shops with signs outside comparing them to dogs? How many violent political groups in the UK have targeted Ginger people and their businesses?
When did Ginger people playing for their country get pelted with missiles and abused by their own fans?

And so on...

Anyone else see an idea for a good movie in there?:think

PS: I'm pretty sure Icemax has done all those things to ginger people.

[GrovesVDegale]

Groves was poor last time out. Before that bout I would have picked him to beat Chunky, not so sure now.

A third round stoppage of a bigger man ho he knocked down a total of 3 times is poor? He made a slow start in the 1st but I don't think he's on the downhill slide just yet lol.

Groves has replied today saying he doesn't think the fight will happen:

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[Strike]

Unfortunately for Groves it doesn't matter whether he thinks Degale is out of touch with people or not worth "50 quid" because the fact is the guy is earning closer to 100grand per fight. So why on earth would he agree to take half his usual purse to help promote another guy with less of a name than him in the general public?

[Dan684]

Strike you moron. That isn't the difference between colours that is a difference between peoples perceptions. It's still a childish, personal comment aimed at mocking someone for their appearance and if the shoe was on the other foot then people would be in uproar.

What would be the difference if Groves said "I'm gonna knock that Mouthy Black Kid out" ???

No difference in reality. Still a FACTUAL childish comment

[boxingscience]

the fight won't happen just yet, and the offer from groves financially suggests to me that it was never a serious offer anyway.

[Dan684]

It wont its just Haye and them trying to make FW squirm a little, plus get a little more media attention

[The_Real_Deal]

A third round stoppage of a bigger man ho he knocked down a total of 3 times is poor? He made a slow start in the 1st but I don't think he's on the downhill slide just yet lol.


Groves is a very good prospect for sure, but he did look poor last time out, his defence was lacking he got tagged a good few times by the lumbering East European.

[GazOC]

Groves looked very sloppy in his fight.

[FLINT ISLAND]

DeGale is a posing gimp.

I'd love to see him come apart in a fight like Alex Arthur V Michael Gomez.

Arthur really thought he was some pound for pound great before that fight.

DeGale makes his way in Gold dancing to the ring like Naz - and then is rubbish.

Says he is better looking than David Haye.

DeGale is asking for a painful defeat.

[boxingscience]

DeGale is a posing gimp.

I'd love to see him come apart in a fight like Alex Arthur V Michael Gomez.

Arthur really thought he was some pound for pound great before that fight.

DeGale makes his way in Gold dancing to the ring like Naz - and then is rubbish.

Says he is better looking than David Haye.

DeGale is asking for a painful defeat.

on my god, he said he's better looking than david haye? well that's it then guys, come on, the guy is fucking dead for that.:rofl

[GazOC]

No way is DeGale better looking than David Haye!!!!

[FLINT ISLAND]

Yeah he said a while back after Haye slagged him off a bit

"Haye is just jealous because I am better looking than him"

DeGale loves himself.

[GazOC]

Yeah he said a while back after Haye slagged him off a bit

"Haye is just jealous because I am better looking than him"

DeGale loves himself.


DeGale is no better than the likes of Mark Kaylor or Billy Schwer in the looks department, certainly a step up from Billy Hardy or Charlie Magri but way behind the real British glamour boys like Conteh, Calzaghe and Haye.

[FLINT ISLAND]

Read this - the guy refers to himself as "good looking lad - the golden boy"


Thinks he is a right ladies man......................

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[Losfer_Words]

No way is DeGale better looking than David Haye!!!!

Yeah he is, you poof. No comparison:

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:deal

[icemax]

Hardy har har har:lol::nut

You're gonna run and run with that one, aren't ya?

Of course, its the way I roll :yep

[icemax]

Anyone else see an idea for a good movie in there?:think

PS: I'm pretty sure Icemax has done all those things to ginger people.

Its already been done by Catherine Tate :hey

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[Risque Reward]

Haye could melt an iceberg just by winking at it.

DeGale looks like he belongs in the pet shop boys hot tub.

[Strike]

Strike you moron. That isn't the difference between colours that is a difference between peoples perceptions. It's still a childish, personal comment aimed at mocking someone for their appearance and if the shoe was on the other foot then people would be in uproar.

What would be the difference if Groves said "I'm gonna knock that Mouthy Black Kid out" ???

No difference in reality. Still a FACTUAL childish comment

I am amazed you cannot see that the historical and social context of an insult or slur is of significance. The word "****" is not racist in Australia because it has only ever been used as an abbreviation for the cricket team. It is not as a word intrinsically offensive or racist. However to use it in the UK would outline you as a racist because it is rooted in the far right activities of the 70s and 80s and was used as a vitriolic slur by people who targeted the Asian community.

So yes the historical context of using a slur about a persons colour and one about the colour of their hair is hugely different and thus one is far more offensive than the other and one carries much graver connotations.

If that is impossible for you to grasp, then I'd suggest that it is you who qualifies as a "moron".

[Dan684]

Well its obvious we disagree. I dont think there is too much of a difference between an 'off the cuff remark' in either sense. Not that I go around making those remarks by the way I just think it's very silly from Degale to be saying things like that :good

[boxingscience]

DeGale is no better than the likes of Mark Kaylor or Billy Schwer in the looks department, certainly a step up from Billy Hardy or Charlie Magri but way behind the real British glamour boys like Conteh, Calzaghe and Haye.

to be honest i wouldn't put calzaghe in the glamour category. he had the looks, but he didn't have the charisma. haye is far ahead of calzaghe in the glamour catergory.

[Dan684]

Calzaghe's not good looking FFS. He's ugly ! None of my missus' mates thought he was remotely good looking. AND MY MISSUS KNOWS GOOD LOOKING MEN :deal

[ollyc]

DeGale is no better than the likes of Mark Kaylor or Billy Schwer in the looks department, certainly a step up from Billy Hardy or Charlie Magri but way behind the real British glamour boys like Conteh, Calzaghe and Haye.

Without wanting to be responsible for this thread going of on a homoerotic tangent, but Calzaghe? Really? He's hardly Sergio Martinez ...

[D-MAC]

Well, this thread is certainly an eye-opener.

Continue your homoerotic wankathon gentlemen, don't let me disturb you.:good

[GazOC]

Without wanting to be responsible for this thread going of on a homoerotic tangent, but Calzaghe? Really? He's hardly Sergio Martinez ...


I've admittedly got no eye for this myself but the way the fanny was hanging all over him in Vegas for the Hatton-Mayweather fight I thought he may have got a look in as a boxing glamour boy?

Maybe I overrated him, I'll go back a redo my list over the weekend.;)

[ishy]

Yeah he said a while back after Haye slagged him off a bit

"Haye is just jealous because I am better looking than him"

DeGale loves himself.

DeGale is a posing gimp.

I'd love to see him come apart in a fight like Alex Arthur V Michael Gomez.

Arthur really thought he was some pound for pound great before that fight.

DeGale makes his way in Gold dancing to the ring like Naz - and then is rubbish.

Says he is better looking than David Haye.

DeGale is asking for a painful defeat.

on my god, he said he's better looking than david haye? well that's it then guys, come on, the guy is fucking dead for that.:rofl

No way is DeGale better looking than David Haye!!!!

Read this - the guy refers to himself as "good looking lad - the golden boy"


Thinks he is a right ladies man......................

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Yeah he is, you poof. No comparison:

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:deal

:nut:nut:scaredas:

Sergio Martinez = sexier bastard than David Haye :hey

edit: And I hadn't even read the 4th page :rofl

[ollyc]

Continuing the homoerotic tangent, (since we're all on board and secure in our collective heterosexuality), when I was looking for a picture of Dean francis for my avatar, I found a picture of him with the caption declaring him a 'handsome bald man'.
As for DeGale he looks as if he gets punched in the face for a living.

[FLINT ISLAND]

I've admittedly got no eye for this myself but the way the fanny was hanging all over him in Vegas for the Hatton-Mayweather fight I thought he may have got a look in as a boxing glamour boy?

Maybe I overrated him, I'll go back a redo my list over the weekend.;)

I think I know why that is Gaz - it wasnt just Joe on his own but Swansea Glamour Boy Enzo Maccarenelli they wanted a piece of ;)

[icemax]

I think I know why that is Gaz - it wasnt just Joe on his own but Swansea Glamour Boy Enzo Maccarenelli they wanted a piece of ;)

:lol::lol::lol:

As soon as I saw the way that this thread was turning I fucking knew you'd roll up :yep

[Strike]

Well its obvious we disagree. I dont think there is too much of a difference between an 'off the cuff remark' in either sense. Not that I go around making those remarks by the way I just think it's very silly from Degale to be saying things like that :good

Oh, I agree that it is silly and childish and makes him seem like a bit of a cunt too.

[Maza1987]

Epic quote by DeGale

['Ben']

Having said that, Haye was criticised on here for calling Valuev "ugly", so I don't see why a prick like DeGale should be 'spared' from the criticism :yep


Very true.:lol:

[1stcontact]

Um what the hell has happened to the Brit forum:huh
It seems to have become lounge infected:blood:yikes

**Backs Away Slowly**

[GazOC]

I think I know why that is Gaz - it wasnt just Joe on his own but Swansea Glamour Boy Enzo Maccarenelli they wanted a piece of ;)


I have a "friend of a friend" (ie. probably bollocks) story about Enzo in Vegas that week....:hey

[FLINT ISLAND]

I have a "friend of a friend" (ie. probably bollocks) story about Enzo in Vegas that week....:hey

:pop

[FLINT ISLAND]

Glamour Boys United - Calzaghe now accepts that Haye blitzed his mate in 2 rounds- and can now be friends - now thats all in the past


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[NO MAS]

If the comment that Degale has made about Groves is true then he should back his mouth up regardless of what purse he gets for his fights and take to the Centre of the ring with Groves.

If Degale cannot do this because his promoter won't let him take this fight then he should STFU...:good

[Dan684]

Why the fuck do people think the above cunt (left) is good looking ?

He looks like he has a cherry tomato extension to his nose :-(

[1stcontact]

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Haye looks like he has tiny fists lol

[FLINT ISLAND]

Haye looks like he has tiny fists lol

Calzaghe and Haye both now respect each other as the NO 1 Champs at their weight.

Calzaghe - Super Middle

Haye - Crusierweight

But back a couple of years ago - Calzaghe could not show this - becaue he was behind Enzo being the man at Crusierweight

But I think now Calzaghe accepts Haye as the No1 champ - and they respect each others achievements.

[FLINT ISLAND]

Heres a good photo ----


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[icemax]

Heres a good photo ----


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Enzo needs to drop the paw, Tyson will kill him

[D-MAC]

Heres a good photo ----


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I bet Iron Mike was very flattered.

Probably has that photo mounted in a diamond encrusted gold frame somewhere in his mansion.

[servo]

Groves looked awful for awhile in his last fight. I am not on the hype yet. His opponents have been a joke so far so too early to tell if he is really 'that' good.

Degale was horrible in his last fight aswell. Slapping, switch-hitting nonsense - but i think he has the beating of Groves.. I agree with the people that say it won't happen, but i am hoping it does on the Haye undercard as i got a ticket. I say Degale KO's him.

[jonnyP]

degale IMO is the best of the olympians, if he was a more likeable character people more people would start appreciating what skills he has

[GazOC]

Gavin is looking the pick of the bunch at the moment.

[Dan684]

degale IMO is the best of the olympians, if he was a more likeable character people more people would start appreciating what skills he has

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[boxingscience]

Glamour Boys United - Calzaghe now accepts that Haye blitzed his mate in 2 rounds- and can now be friends - now thats all in the past


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like i've said before, calzaghe wasn't a glamour boy. he had the looks, he had the talent, but he had no personality, no charisma like david haye.

[Top Dog]

Degale=tit, dont like the guy, simple as that, hope he gets smoked shortly

[kurt2006]

I think someone forgot to post all the interview

"I'd love to knock the ugly ginger kid out!"
"But I just slap so will never achieve this"
"I am unique in that all my performances stink"
"I will talk like a junior gangster for the next 5 years whilst fighting bums"
"Then Frank will get me a WBU title and I will unify with the WBF"

[DOM5153]

Degale was horrible in his last fight aswell. Slapping, switch-hitting nonsense - but i think he has the beating of Groves.. I agree with the people that say it won't happen, but i am hoping it does on the Haye undercard as i got a ticket. I say Degale KO's him.

Degale must stop the slapping, its kind of ridiculous the way he punches when he has a clear opening for one big punch.... he still beats Groves based on styles

[Top Dog]

I think someone forgot to post all the interview

"I'd love to knock the ugly ginger kid out!"
"But I just slap so will never achieve this"
"I am unique in that all my performances stink"
"I will talk like a junior gangster for the next 5 years whilst fighting bums"
"Then Frank will get me a WBU title and I will unify with the WBF"


:happy:happy

[howarya]

love to and doing it are two different things.cant wait till degale gets smashed

[majypoo]

Degale has no chance against Groves, George is a far more complete fighter than Degale will ever be. Degale fights like hes still a amateur, I don't know how anyone can rate him, personally I think he would struggle to even with a British title. Groves will at the very least get to European level if not a world champion in the future. Honestly can't see Degale beating Paul Smith...

[kurt2006]

Degale needs to get out of his comfort zone and get a new trainer. JM will do nothing with him.

[evil G]

I think Groves wins if this fight was going to happen now, in the future, who knows?