Tony dodson INTERVEIW!!!!!!!!!

[TONY DODSON]

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[Mazallan]

Fucking hell are you stood on a box in that pic? Or is it the high heels.

[TONY DODSON]

Fucking hell are you stood on a box in that pic? Or is it the high heels.
thats my point at why he should be a middleweight but i dont mind beating him up anyways
:)

[Dan684]

Nice one Tony.

I'm praying you beat him. He did the same shit talking before the Quigley fight with all his brothers by the docks and he's doing it again now. He's fucking useless, he's nowhere near as good as he's being touted to be. British Champion is as far as he'll go (Not that there is any disgrace in that i'd rip my arm off to own that belt) but Quigley gassed to fuck and he threw that fight away in the last few rounds. Stay fit mate and I have no qualms about saying come the end of the night you'll have that belt :good

[Mazallan]

Hope you do beat him up. Great set of fights around your weight ready to happen all hopefully involving Liverpool lads. Maybe if Ajetovic gets off the pies he can make a comeback and have youselves a Scouse super 6.

[Leo Ross]

Hope all goes well mate, I'll have a small fortune on you by stoppage, no pressure though!!!!!

[Mandanda]

Tony will beat him. Anyone that don't think so should watch the Quigley fight. Fought with one eye not only showing heart and bravery but skills. He was ahead on my card after a shocking start and then sadly just fell short. Smith struggled to land on Quigley.

[Beeston Brawler]

Odds.....

Dodson points 10/3 (Skybet)
Dodson stoppage 6/1 (Sportingbet)

:hey

[DOM5153]

Good luck for march!

[Leo Ross]

Tony KO 12/1 Tko 7/1 with sky bet. Im lumping on both big time.

[avidlemon]

will be smiths hardest fight in his career by far.
Don't know where all the hate comes from for smith.
fuck it's not worth even saying what i think on here sometimes, as i get the usual stuff
"smith overrated, who has he fought"......blah blah blah.

give dodson his dues, good fighter, and excellent test for smith, but one winner mid round stoppage, smith

[Dan684]

Avid I know what your saying but Smith has been hyped up to fuck for me.

He's had 29 fights and this was his first fight of note (Quigley) and he very nearly lost to a 13-1 fighter.

In his 26th fight he went to points against the man that Degale stopped in round 1 of his 3rd fight.

[thewinfella]

will be smiths hardest fight in his career by far.
Don't know where all the hate comes from for smith.
fuck it's not worth even saying what i think on here sometimes, as i get the usual stuff
"smith overrated, who has he fought"......blah blah blah.

give dodson his dues, good fighter, and excellent test for smith, but one winner mid round stoppage, smith

The reason smith gets hated is because he talks like he's fuckin Muhhamad Ali , the lad had a great Ama pedigree , and it never followed into the pro ranks , it simply just didnt , he's there going on after the Quigley fight , " it was a clear win " , " im cut from a different cloth " all bull shit , its all bull shit he lost that fight for fucks sake !!!!!

As Tony Dodson very rightly points out he's not at 160 because he knows Matt Macklin and Darren Barker would take him out no danger , he's talkin about Robert Steiglitz and Felix Sturm next :lol::lol::lol: he's lost his marbles mate .

Fact is Paul was a great Ama and an average Pro but if you listened to him you'd think he was Joe Calzaghe's 2nd coming .

Dodson is gonna ware him down by 6 and stop him 9 or 10 !!!!!!

[stuey]

Early carrear Smiths jab was awesome, really sharp and hard, somewhere along the line,he has believed the hype that he is a devastating puncher and neglected that wonderful weapon. If he can find it again, its a tough night for you Tony.

[Leo Ross]

Ive no hate at all to Paul, hes a nice lad and a decent enough British champion, I just think that Tony will be too big for him and this is a hell of an opportunity for him. Tony has got plenty of ability and this is his chance to prove it.

[avidlemon]

end of the day i can understand to a certain point where you are all coming from. But sparked by Barker, i don't think so. Macklin, would be a tough fight, but is the kind of level where he should be fighting right now. At the end of the day the quigley fight WAS close, bt the championsip rounds are what won paul the fight.
When he fought healey, he dropped him, and ok, he didn't finish him off, but he did what a lot of people have criticised him for not doing in the past, which was pick his shots better, and not get overhand right, and left hook happy. I watched the fight, and just because you don't stop someone like healey, doesn't mean you have dropped a level. Let's not forget he was on the comeback trail then having knocked danny thornton out spark, in a fight in which he broke his hand.
People knock Smith for not having been in any wars. well, what's so great about a fighter having been in wars? He may find himself in a few more now he has stepped up though.
As well as dodson performed against quigley (a fight in which i had him winning every round apart from the ones where he was put down, and stopped) in recent years, he has fallen when he has stepped up, and i don't see any reason for it to change this time. Dodson is a genuine smw, but i would say from looking at him, he struggles a bit to hit championship weight and would probably be more comfortable at LH, whereas smith doesn't stuggle. Smith has been active, dodson hasn't. Smith and dodson can bang a little bit, and this is where i see the fight being won or lost. Smith has taken shots well in the past, and bangs well to the body, and throws a good left hook, whereas dodson was dropped and stoppedby froch in a fight were it seems he didn't want to know.
I am not ruling dodson out, as he is a good fighter, seasoned, and will give smith a hard time, am not under any illusions, but i feel at the stages both fighters are at in their career, smith is better placed to win this, and move upwards.
I appreciate a lot of you feel he is overhyped and so on, and maybe to a certain extent that is true, but he has the quality, and will show in 12th march!

[Macca L20]

I can't believe those odds.
On Dodson stoppage big time.

[Leo Ross]

Register with skybet and they will match any 10 pound stake mate.

[thewinfella]

end of the day i can understand to a certain point where you are all coming from. But sparked by Barker, i don't think so. Macklin, would be a tough fight, but is the kind of level where he should be fighting right now. At the end of the day the quigley fight WAS close, bt the championsip rounds are what won paul the fight.
When he fought healey, he dropped him, and ok, he didn't finish him off, but he did what a lot of people have criticised him for not doing in the past, which was pick his shots better, and not get overhand right, and left hook happy. I watched the fight, and just because you don't stop someone like healey, doesn't mean you have dropped a level. Let's not forget he was on the comeback trail then having knocked danny thornton out spark, in a fight in which he broke his hand.
People knock Smith for not having been in any wars. well, what's so great about a fighter having been in wars? He may find himself in a few more now he has stepped up though.
As well as dodson performed against quigley (a fight in which i had him winning every round apart from the ones where he was put down, and stopped) in recent years, he has fallen when he has stepped up, and i don't see any reason for it to change this time. Dodson is a genuine smw, but i would say from looking at him, he struggles a bit to hit championship weight and would probably be more comfortable at LH, whereas smith doesn't stuggle. Smith has been active, dodson hasn't. Smith and dodson can bang a little bit, and this is where i see the fight being won or lost. Smith has taken shots well in the past, and bangs well to the body, and throws a good left hook, whereas dodson was dropped and stoppedby froch in a fight were it seems he didn't want to know.
I am not ruling dodson out, as he is a good fighter, seasoned, and will give smith a hard time, am not under any illusions, but i feel at the stages both fighters are at in their career, smith is better placed to win this, and move upwards.
I appreciate a lot of you feel he is overhyped and so on, and maybe to a certain extent that is true, but he has the quality, and will show in 12th march!

Look im not bashing Paul for no reason not what so ever , but it sounds to me like either you know him personally or your just a fan regardless of Paul Smith and thats that .

This is how it is in my view , fundamentilly Paul is a solid boxer twice ABA and Common Wealth Silver medalist would back that up , they are the facts , for what Paul has acheived in the pro ranks is in the shadows at what he achieved as an Ama and thats dissapointing , in my view Barker and Macklin would make Paul look like he wouldnt belong in there , and to my knowledge he never had trouble making 160 in the past .

Along comes Tony Quigley , who produced heroics to stop Dodson but was largely outclassed and out worked until late on , in comes Smith who goes life and death with Quigley and gets a home town decision , home town in the sense it was ******s show and Smith was never losing that fight if it was close but we all know he lost .

Then there is the constant bad mouthing and making everything personal , fighters like Dodson paved the way for Smith he needs to show these men some respect did you see Ricky Hatton behaving like that when he was knocking shite out of Eamon Mcgee etc etc etc !!!!!!

There my points . :deal

[avidlemon]

Obviously i am a fan of smith, but i dont know him personally, nor have i ever met him.

Let's get this barker thing straight once and for all. Been a pro about the same time as paul, had about 9 less fights, and has a commonwealth title that anyone can win, providing you beat some nobody from an african commonwealth country. Barker has proved as much, if not less that smith.
Smigga maybe hasn't always re-produced his amateur form, i accept that, and should have dealt better with Quigley, and i appreciate that when he performs like that against someonewith an inferior record and pedigree, questions will be asked. It doesn't matter what quigley did to dodson, or what dodson did to quigley. all form goes out of the window when two men step in the ring,as anything can happen.
Just because quigley produced the fight of his life against dodson, ddn't automatially mean he would go on and be a world beater against smith. And let's have it right, at the same weight, quigley did to dodson, what he couldn't do to smith, and dodson outlcassing him throughout obviously did him no good in the long run.
I just tihnk Paul is being writtenoff all too quickly, and let's not forget, he is the champ.
But i want to be clear, i am giving massive repect to dodson, as he is dagerous, as dangerus a fighter as paul has fought in the pro's, and could cause paul som problems. But Paul has come through fights where he has struggled with a style for a little while, and found the answers, and will do the same on the night

[thewinfella]

Obviously i am a fan of smith, but i dont know him personally, nor have i ever met him.

Let's get this barker thing straight once and for all. Been a pro about the same time as paul, had about 9 less fights, and has a commonwealth title that anyone can win, providing you beat some nobody from an african commonwealth country. Barker has proved as much, if not less that smith.
Smigga maybe hasn't always re-produced his amateur form, i accept that, and should have dealt better with Quigley, and i appreciate that when he performs like that against someonewith an inferior record and pedigree, questions will be asked. It doesn't matter what quigley did to dodson, or what dodson did to quigley. all form goes out of the window when two men step in the ring,as anything can happen.
Just because quigley produced the fight of his life against dodson, ddn't automatially mean he would go on and be a world beater against smith. And let's have it right, at the same weight, quigley did to dodson, what he couldn't do to smith, and dodson outlcassing him throughout obviously did him no good in the long run.
I just tihnk Paul is being writtenoff all too quickly, and let's not forget, he is the champ.
But i want to be clear, i am giving massive repect to dodson, as he is dagerous, as dangerus a fighter as paul has fought in the pro's, and could cause paul som problems. But Paul has come through fights where he has struggled with a style for a little while, and found the answers, and will do the same on the night

The point im trying to get across with you is , unless you have watched Paul as an amateur you wouldnt know how good he was or is , because we have not seen it as a pro , we have seen some good solid 1 punch stoppages against tomato cans but thats it .

Now i dont know where your pulling this from that Smith is some sort of world beater at pro level , he isnt !!!!!

Quigley was his signature fight and he lost that fight everyone knows that , and if he didnt the most he deserved was a draw , he's only the British champ because he scraped home against a part time champion in Quigley , thats the reason he holds that title .

[avidlemon]

The point im trying to get across with you is , unless you have watched Paul as an amateur you wouldnt know how good he was or is , because we have not seen it as a pro , we have seen some good solid 1 punch stoppages against tomato cans but thats it .

Now i dont know where your pulling this from that Smith is some sort of world beater at pro level , he isnt !!!!!

Quigley was his signature fight and he lost that fight everyone knows that , and if he didnt the most he deserved was a draw , he's only the British champ because he scraped home against a part time champion in Quigley , thats the reason he holds that title .

I get this levelled at me a lot. "world beater" i have never said that. we wont ever know that until paul reaches that level, or if he gets a shot at the wbo, which is a potential, like it or not.
Smith didn't lose the fight, it wasn't a "home" victory. Quigley won the fight if you score it on the basis he was the superior wrestler, both did it, but more so quigley. His plan was to smother smith, and break his flow. facts are when smith found himself some room, he was jabbing well, in and out. Quigley had some good moments too though, especially the third, where he had paul on te ropes (btw, i was at the fight). If everyone says that quigley gassed, then fine. He was the chap, nd should have fucking trained better. The were some rounds you could have scored either way, and paul switched off rounds 3-6, but it was hardly like what happened to dapa napa the other week.
I didn't see much a smith as an amateur, granted, but he looked good against pascal. The problem is that he wasn't moved along quickly enough by ******, and everyone on here thinks if you have a "padded" record, or have not fought for a "proper" title by you 15-20th fight there is something wrong. Look at what happened to don broadhurst when he fought haskins. Way too early in his career, and although a shit fight, he was owned. Why do that to an up and comer, very simliar to how they are talking about degale to be fair.
I personally think we have seen on occasions how good paul can be as a pro, but grantednot enough, but tell me how many times calzaghe was shit?
That man had more excuses than a school kid who lot his homework. Smith says he was shit if he was shit. And he always wanted to fight top boys at middleweight, but nevr got the chance.
Why stick around at a weight you aren't going to get opportunities ffs. He was 26-1 when he moved to smw, and not getting any younger, and we wouldn't begrudge anyone wantingto earn their corn.

[Bonavena25]

Smith seems pretty durable to me so I'm not sure about all this stoppage talk.

[avidlemon]

Smith seems pretty durable to me so I'm not sure about all this stoppage talk.

It's a fair point, smith has never looked close to being stopped in his career thus far

[thewinfella]

I get this levelled at me a lot. "world beater" i have never said that. we wont ever know that until paul reaches that level, or if he gets a shot at the wbo, which is a potential, like it or not.
Smith didn't lose the fight, it wasn't a "home" victory. Quigley won the fight if you score it on the basis he was the superior wrestler, both did it, but more so quigley. His plan was to smother smith, and break his flow. facts are when smith found himself some room, he was jabbing well, in and out. Quigley had some good moments too though, especially the third, where he had paul on te ropes (btw, i was at the fight). If everyone says that quigley gassed, then fine. He was the chap, nd should have fucking trained better. The were some rounds you could have scored either way, and paul switched off rounds 3-6, but it was hardly like what happened to dapa napa the other week.
I didn't see much a smith as an amateur, granted, but he looked good against pascal. The problem is that he wasn't moved along quickly enough by ******, and everyone on here thinks if you have a "padded" record, or have not fought for a "proper" title by you 15-20th fight there is something wrong. Look at what happened to don broadhurst when he fought haskins. Way too early in his career, and although a shit fight, he was owned. Why do that to an up and comer, very simliar to how they are talking about degale to be fair.
I personally think we have seen on occasions how good paul can be as a pro, but grantednot enough, but tell me how many times calzaghe was shit?
That man had more excuses than a school kid who lot his homework. Smith says he was shit if he was shit. And he always wanted to fight top boys at middleweight, but nevr got the chance.
Why stick around at a weight you aren't going to get opportunities ffs. He was 26-1 when he moved to smw, and not getting any younger, and we wouldn't begrudge anyone wantingto earn their corn.

Mate stay exactly where you are , as the MEN IN WHITE COATS WILL BE THERE ANY MINUTE NOW !!!!!

Smith never got moved on because he would have been beaten thats why , have you ever wondered why you have the world beater thing levelled at you as you say , well thats because thats the pedestal your putting Paul on , and im happy for you that you were sat there watching the fight mate i really am , well done :good

To mention Joe Calzage in the same breath as Paul Smith is fuckin idiotic at its highest , enough said !!!!!

The facts are this :

Quigley and Smith stank the joint out , and Quigley done enough to beat him , he slightly outworked Paul early in almost every round until late on , IMO he got the nod by 2 or 3 rounds . Now im done with you :hi:

[Primadonna Kool]

Paul Smith should not be fighting at SMW...

[Dan684]

Get a room you two :lol:

[avidlemon]

Mate stay exactly where you are , as the MEN IN WHITE COATS WILL BE THERE ANY MINUTE NOW !!!!!

Smith never got moved on because he would have been beaten thats why , have you ever wondered why you have the world beater thing levelled at you as you say , well thats because thats the pedestal your putting Paul on , and im happy for you that you were sat there watching the fight mate i really am , well done :good

To mention Joe Calzage in the same breath as Paul Smith is fuckin idiotic at its highest , enough said !!!!!

The facts are this :

Quigley and Smith stank the joint out , and Quigley done enough to beat him , he slightly outworked Paul early in almost every round until late on , IMO he got the nod by 2 or 3 rounds . Now im done with you :hi:

Oi, don't leave me like that!
I wasn't comparing smith to calzaghe bell end, (yes i am going to be THAT childish) merely stating when calzaghe was shit, he made excuses, when smith is shit he says it.
And what is with the arsehole sarcastic comment about well done for being at the fight? Why even say that?
Look if you think that quigley won the fight fair enough, it's the men in white coats who will be coming for you.
I am not putting him on a pedestal, just supporting him. If people interpret that as me saying paul is a world beater right now, then they are cunts.
So you are done with me as in, you won, ding ding end of. Well fine, if it will help you sleep better then great.
You can't tell me the likes of elcock, mcdermott, barker etc would have beaten paul?
Whta's the point, jog on.

[avidlemon]

Get a room you two :lol:

Think he wants to put me in a white coat and bum me into next week

[kieron]

Without wanting to blow too much smoke up the guys arse I like Dodson and his approach to fights. he's a good solid pro and I'm backing him to beat Smith although I'm not convinced on a stoppage. I just hope Tony is super fit as the inactivity and age could catch up with him in the later rounds

[avidlemon]

Let's talk about the interview.
I think tony is playing games here big time, trying to get paul to come out of the woodwork and start a war of words, which eventually developed with quigley. It's good for publicity, but how much genuine bad feeling is there between them?

[LP_1985]

Let's talk about the interview.
I think tony is playing games here big time, trying to get paul to come out of the woodwork and start a war of words, which eventually developed with quigley. It's good for publicity, but how much genuine bad feeling is there between them?

duno. sounds like he's milking it abit with the 'he used he lace my gloves' shit

[TONY DODSON]

duno. sounds like he's milking it abit with the 'he used he lace my gloves' shit
fuck all to milk m8 thats how it was he was a nice lad and was more than welcome at the time ,so why would i milk it?for what purpose?

[JCB123]

Thewinfella you speak so much sense and i can't agree with you any more, absolutely correct in everythin you have said in this thread!!!

As far as the fight goes Tony wins ......... TOO BIG, TOO STRONG, TOO GOOD for smith!!!!!!!!!!!

Go on Dodo lad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Top Dog]

C'mon Dodson! hope Tony wins by k.o. putting some of my hard earned cash on it:thumbsup

[brown bomber]

Quigley won that shitty fight by at least a couple of rounds. Smith showed no ability to adapt to quigleys style. Dodson can win this as long as he doesn't walk onto one.

[avidlemon]

One thing is for sure, it will be a better fight than smith quigley. Whoever you think won, at the end of the day, the fight has happened, and the 3 people that matter made the decision. As i have said it wasn't like the other week when napa got robbed. You will find as many people who thought he won.
This is a better fight all round, as dodson isn't a grappler, or wrestler, and smith opens up when his opponent trades with him. potential fight of the year in the making.

[TONY DODSON]

One thing is for sure, it will be a better fight than smith quigley. Whoever you think won, at the end of the day, the fight has happened, and the 3 people that matter made the decision. As i have said it wasn't like the other week when napa got robbed. You will find as many people who thought he won.
This is a better fight all round, as dodson isn't a grappler, or wrestler, and smith opens up when his opponent trades with him. potential fight of the year in the making.
Maybe we will see

[ollyc]

One thing is for sure, it will be a better fight than smith quigley. Whoever you think won, at the end of the day, the fight has happened, and the 3 people that matter made the decision. As i have said it wasn't like the other week when napa got robbed. You will find as many people who thought he won.
This is a better fight all round, as dodson isn't a grappler, or wrestler, and smith opens up when his opponent trades with him. potential fight of the year in the making.

Respectfully disagree.
I'm pretty sure the majority of folk thought Quigley shaded it.
I certainly did.

[LP_1985]

fuck all to milk m8 thats how it was he was a nice lad and was more than welcome at the time ,so why would i milk it?for what purpose?

sorry mate u just came across a lil bitter/angry. like u say in football 'u aint good enough to lace my boots' as a way to piss take ur mates or something. maybe im wrong, just my oponion. i thought smigga just edged the quigley fight and am expecting a better smith to turn up for u

[Dan684]

To be fair to Smith as much as I dont like him as was really rooting for Quigley, I was at the Arena that night in pretty good seats and wasn't on the beer at all. I had Smith winning by a round. AND.... that fight was for me one of those fights that was genuinely easy to score each round. There wasn't too many rounds that was nearly close and Quigley lost that fight in the championship rounds - And to me it was as simple as that !

[LP_1985]

To be fair to Smith as much as I dont like him as was really rooting for Quigley, I was at the Arena that night in pretty good seats and wasn't on the beer at all. I had Smith winning by a round. AND.... that fight was for me one of those fights that was genuinely easy to score each round. There wasn't too many rounds that was nearly close and Quigley lost that fight in the championship rounds - And to me it was as simple as that !

i was there to and thought the same. my mate rung after the fight and said it was shit and quigley should of won

[riggers]

I found the fight hard to score as i kept dropping off, it was boring until the last 2 rounds. I think if Smitty struggled with Quigleys strength, he will struggle with Dodsons. Not saying he cannot win, i just think he can be intimidated. Dodson to win and if those odds are legit i will be backing him. Make it physical Tony , and rough him up.

[jonnyP]

quigley with his judo background ?? may be wrong on that is probably the physicaally strongest smw on teh domestic scene excluding froch, i feel the winner of david anderson will beat any of the liverpool smw's... would be intresting if danny macintosh could make smw again!!!

[scouse red man]

Interesting interview, this one. Tony to win around the 7th. And I WILL have some of Skybets odds on Tony by K.O or T.K.O. And Tony, you are quite right in one of your past interviews, How the hell did Smith go from losing to Bendall at M.W. in an English title fight to #1 contender at the division above? And is world ranked by the W.B.O? Beats the shit outta me!!! I would be interested to hear Tonys personal opinion on Brian Magee's Euro title win and without looking past Smith, how any route to Magee would map out. Anyway Doddo to win on March 12th. Get on it!!! Bring the belt back to Garston, Tony. :good

[Dan684]

Quigley is a very very good grappler by all acounts and i've heard a story about him having Rampage Jackson in a lock in training and not letting go. Apparently Jackson went mad and Quigley and him nearly went at it, quigley offered him outside :rofl

Apparently his is very very good at MMA and his strength certainly shown in that Smith fight :good

[Top Dog]

Quigley is a very very good grappler by all acounts and i've heard a story about him having Rampage Jackson in a lock in training and not letting go. Apparently Jackson went mad and Quigley and him nearly went at it, quigley offered him outside :rofl

Apparently his is very very good at MMA and his strength certainly shown in that Smith fight :good


Cmon now, asking Rampage outside?? cant see it, the guy is feckin huge compared to him, would pull him apart

[JCB123]

Stinks of blag!!!!!!!

I did know that previously Quigley's arl fella offered a bit of boxin advice to the MMA guys. Apparently he was a coach a 'Wolfslair' for a time.

Fair play, you get ou what you put in!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dan684]

Cmon now, asking Rampage outside?? cant see it, the guy is feckin huge compared to him, would pull him apart

I know mate not saying he seriously wanted it or anything but apparently it was funny - just handbags and that coz they were only practising and quigley would release a grip or summat

[robpalmer135]

Smith moved to super middle to avoid barker and maclin.

[avidlemon]

Smith moved to super middle to avoid barker and maclin.

That is just pure bait mate. he called barker out often enough, how is that avoiding?

[Tony Bellew]

Quigley flattened Check Kongo in the gym and rampage wouldn't get in the ring with him after it FACT. Paul Kelly tells me that Quigley is the hardest puncher he's ever been hit by and that all the lads at the wolfslair say the same thing, Tony's Dad used to be the boxing coach at the wolfslair and left, They wanted Tony to go in the UFC and Tony's dad didn't want him to.. Simple as that really, Tony Quigley has amazing core strength that comes from his Karate background!! The kid has an unreal chin and is amazingly physiacally strong!! He isn't the biggest puncher BUT is a very good fighter who'll give any middleweight in Britain problems...

[Dan684]

Thanks for rubbishing my story :good :lol:

[20a87]

paul smith ud

[avidlemon]

paul smith ud

Someone with a bit of sense at last. I can't remember wat Dodo has done in the last 4 years t suggest he will do anything in this fight

[achillesthegreat]

Another good domestic fight. Smith like Quigley is not a super middleweight. They are middleweights and even light middleweights if they trained like men possessed.

Can't wait to see it.

I'll be rooting for Dodson to beat Smith and try to avenge his loss in a first defence against Quigley.

[20a87]

Quigley flattened Check Kongo in the gym and rampage wouldn't get in the ring with him after it FACT. Paul Kelly tells me that Quigley is the hardest puncher he's ever been hit by and that all the lads at the wolfslair say the same thing, Tony's Dad used to be the boxing coach at the wolfslair and left, They wanted Tony to go in the UFC and Tony's dad didn't want him to.. Simple as that really, Tony Quigley has amazing core strength that comes from his Karate background!! The kid has an unreal chin and is amazingly physiacally strong!! He isn't the biggest puncher BUT is a very good fighter who'll give any middleweight in Britain problems...

If he wants to get further in boxing surely he should concentrate on training pure boxing? If however he is that good at mma surely he should choose that as he may earn more in the ufc than boxing at domestic level. I understand that he might enjoy it etc etc but he should pick one and go for it.

[NO MAS]

Good Luck Tony...:good

[PaddyD1983]

Cant wait for this fight. Should be a war.

I've been fairly middle of the road in my predictions. One thing I cant stand though is all the hate on Smigga. The lad is British champion, how about people just give him a bit of respect?!

That being said... I fancy Dodson. Smith beat Quigley very narrowly. In my opinion, it was the right decision, but not much in it. I had Smith by two rounds, but there were a few rounds that could have gone either way. I think Dodson's aggression though will prove more difficult for Smith to deal with than Quigley's neat skills.

Either way, just hope it's an absolute barn stormer. Havent really got a preference for the fight so I'll have the luxury of being a complete neutral for this one!!

[avidlemon]

Cant wait for this fight. Should be a war.

I've been fairly middle of the road in my predictions. One thing I cant stand though is all the hate on Smigga. The lad is British champion, how about people just give him a bit of respect?!

That being said... I fancy Dodson. Smith beat Quigley very narrowly. In my opinion, it was the right decision, but not much in it. I had Smith by two rounds, but there were a few rounds that could have gone either way. I think Dodson's aggression though will prove more difficult for Smith to deal with than Quigley's neat skills.

Either way, just hope it's an absolute barn stormer. Havent really got a preference for the fight so I'll have the luxury of being a complete neutral for this one!!
It is going to be one of those fights that could go either way to be honest, but i think there is a great chance it will be a much better spectacle than quigley - smith.
The thing with someone coming at smith agressively though, is that he tends to meet that head on, which is what will make it a better fight. It isn't going to come down to silky skills from either boxer, it will be who puts who onto the back foot more, and who has the best chin too.
I am in team Smigga, and i too cant understand all the hate.
But anyway those people hating, we wont change them.
Another great night in liverpool again though.
Am glad too that Smigga is getting a step up, because if he comes through it well, then it will put a lot of the doubts to bed for some people, but others just wont be happy!

[ollyc]

Quigley flattened Check Kongo in the gym and rampage wouldn't get in the ring with him after it FACT. Paul Kelly tells me that Quigley is the hardest puncher he's ever been hit by and that all the lads at the wolfslair say the same thing, Tony's Dad used to be the boxing coach at the wolfslair and left, They wanted Tony to go in the UFC and Tony's dad didn't want him to.. Simple as that really, Tony Quigley has amazing core strength that comes from his Karate background!! The kid has an unreal chin and is amazingly physiacally strong!! He isn't the biggest puncher BUT is a very good fighter who'll give any middleweight in Britain problems...

Seriously? Flattened? That's pretty impressive considering that he's not known as a puncher, and the fact that Kongo is a pretty impressive specimen.
I wouldn't have thought that Quigley could even reach Kongo's chin!
What does that say about the level of punch resistance in mma?

[Tony Bellew]

Seriously? Flattened? That's pretty impressive considering that he's not known as a puncher, and the fact that Kongo is a pretty impressive specimen.
I wouldn't have thought that Quigley could even reach Kongo's chin!
What does that say about the level of punch resistance in mma?

I know mate I agree with you but I heard it from a guy who trains there and actually witnessed the incident.. Tony Quigley is a very well rounded MMA fighter, He also says though that boxing is far tougher than MMA and that he'll only go into it when he's accomplished all he can in boxing..;)

[Tony Bellew]

Thanks for rubbishing my story :good :lol:


Sorry my mate, :good:yep:good

[PaddyD1983]

It is going to be one of those fights that could go either way to be honest, but i think there is a great chance it will be a much better spectacle than quigley - smith.
The thing with someone coming at smith agressively though, is that he tends to meet that head on, which is what will make it a better fight. It isn't going to come down to silky skills from either boxer, it will be who puts who onto the back foot more, and who has the best chin too.
I am in team Smigga, and i too cant understand all the hate.
But anyway those people hating, we wont change them.
Another great night in liverpool again though.
Am glad too that Smigga is getting a step up, because if he comes through it well, then it will put a lot of the doubts to bed for some people, but others just wont be happy!

Smith's on a lose lose on these boards. If he wins then people will tell you that Dodson hasnt acheived much and was over the hill anyway. If he loses then people will say "told you so".

I cant see why people are getting all pent up over Smith. He's a British champion having won the belt from the previous champion. Okay maybe there's an argument that Magee should be in there somewhere, but he's Euro champ now, so maybe a fight for the winner of this against Magee beckons.

Personally, I just want to see a tear up. As I've said, I'm leaning towards Dodson to win (ie, prediction rather than preference) but that's more based on how they both got on against a common opponent in Quigley. It really is a pick em fight for me, and anyone who says otherwise hasnt seen enough of either boxer. Dodson's the bigger of the two (not by much mind) but Smith's horror show against Bendall seems a distant memory now.

I cant see Dodson stopping Smigger, but I can see him winning enough rounds.

Hoping Bomber gets a decent opponent on the undercard. Looking forward to seeing Kell Brook in the flesh too. Was well gutted he had to pull out of Smith v Quigley bill. And if Webb's on the undercard again then hopefully Enzo Mac will be knocking around again! :lol:

[ollyc]

I know mate I agree with you but I heard it from a guy who trains there and actually witnessed the incident.. Tony Quigley is a very well rounded MMA fighter, He also says though that boxing is far tougher than MMA and that he'll only go into it when he's accomplished all he can in boxing..;)

Yeah I wasn't doubting it happened, just shocked.
Kongo's a big fucking lump.
That's pretty embarrassing for the UFC.
He's not elite, but he's a well established fighter with some decents wins over the likes of Cro-Cop, Hardonk ...

[Top Dog]

Yeah I wasn't doubting it happened, just shocked.
Kongo's a big fucking lump.
That's pretty embarrassing for the UFC.
He's not elite, but he's a well established fighter with some decents wins over the likes of Cro-Cop, Hardonk ...


Naw, not wearing it guys, no way Rampage Jackson bottled going in the ring with Quigley, he is fuckin HUGE compared to the wee man, Quigley is a good wee fighter but Jackson is a beast of a guy

[avidlemon]

Smith's on a lose lose on these boards. If he wins then people will tell you that Dodson hasnt acheived much and was over the hill anyway. If he loses then people will say "told you so".

I cant see why people are getting all pent up over Smith. He's a British champion having won the belt from the previous champion. Okay maybe there's an argument that Magee should be in there somewhere, but he's Euro champ now, so maybe a fight for the winner of this against Magee beckons.

Personally, I just want to see a tear up. As I've said, I'm leaning towards Dodson to win (ie, prediction rather than preference) but that's more based on how they both got on against a common opponent in Quigley. It really is a pick em fight for me, and anyone who says otherwise hasnt seen enough of either boxer. Dodson's the bigger of the two (not by much mind) but Smith's horror show against Bendall seems a distant memory now.

I cant see Dodson stopping Smigger, but I can see him winning enough rounds.

Hoping Bomber gets a decent opponent on the undercard. Looking forward to seeing Kell Brook in the flesh too. Was well gutted he had to pull out of Smith v Quigley bill. And if Webb's on the undercard again then hopefully Enzo Mac will be knocking around again! :lol:

It probably is more of a pick em' to be fair. But i am thinking you are right, don't see Dodson stopping him, but to be fair he probably wont be setting out to do that. The outcome of this fight will define a bit better the correct standings of the british SMW scene, and also mean that magee comes back into the fold to help further confirm who the best of british is.
I personally think Smith will have too much steam for Dodson, and either wins mid to late stoppage, or ud.

[s23041983]

It probably is more of a pick em' to be fair. But i am thinking you are right, don't see Dodson stopping him, but to be fair he probably wont be setting out to do that. The outcome of this fight will define a bit better the correct standings of the british SMW scene, and also mean that magee comes back into the fold to help further confirm who the best of british is.
I personally think Smith will have too much steam for Dodson, and either wins mid to late stoppage, or ud.

dodson will look great in the first few rounds but i agree with you, i think smigga will rise from mid to late.

cant see either fighter winning a UD here

[TONY DODSON]

dodson will look great in the first few rounds but i agree with you, i think smigga will rise from mid to late.

cant see either fighter winning a UD here

keep feeding the fire m8 keep feeding the fire

[avidlemon]

keep feeding the fire m8 keep feeding the fire

have you got a prediction for how the fight will pan out tony?

[TONY DODSON]

have you got a prediction for how the fight will pan out tony?
HA HA nice try buddy a dodson win

[avidlemon]

HA HA nice try buddy a dodson win

god loves a tryer!

[scouse red man]

I heard Doddo has suffered cuts that require stitches. Anyone heard anything of this nature? Hope not. Surely he can't suffer more bad luck. . . . . . . . ?

[JCB123]

Where did you hear this???

[JonRobo]

seen tony passing yestarday nothink was up with him then looks in great shape

[TONY DODSON]

I heard Doddo has suffered cuts that require stitches. Anyone heard anything of this nature? Hope not. Surely he can't suffer more bad luck. . . . . . . . ?
lol load of crap guys iam just fine

[scouse red man]

lol load of crap guys iam just fine
Good news! I'm glad to hear it. Someone quoted it from the Echo to me. I don't know if you missed my earlier post or not, Tony. But I know you are in contact with Brian Maggee, have you been in contact with him since his big win? And, without looking past Paul Smith, have you discussed the possibility of you two finally getting it on for all the belts should you be successful on the 12th? How would the path to Maggee map out for yourself? Thanks for the reply, Tony. Good luck too, mate.

[avidlemon]

It would be great if the winner was to fight magee, would really define the best of british. I tihnk either fighter would be a good match up, and neither particulary struggles with southpaws either, so could make for a few bombs flying

[skel1983]

It would be great if the winner was to fight magee, would really define the best of british. I tihnk either fighter would be a good match up, and neither particulary struggles with southpaws either, so could make for a few bombs flying


Magee to good for them both imo.


I see a scrappy affair tight at the cards maybe 115-113 either way im pulling for Tony.

[avidlemon]

Magee to good for them both imo.


I see a scrappy affair tight at the cards maybe 115-113 either way im pulling for Tony.

poss too much for Tony, but smigga is an unknown entity at that level, so hard to say if magee would be too good. if smigga beats dodson, which i am pulling for, then he will deserve to be in the ring with magee.

[skel1983]

poss too much for Tony, but smigga is an unknown entity at that level, so hard to say if magee would be too good. if smigga beats dodson, which i am pulling for, then he will deserve to be in the ring with magee.


Not really all the half decent fighters Smith he has been in with so far he has either lost or just done enough, and they are fighters a level or two below Magee.

[avidlemon]

Not really all the half decent fighters Smith he has been in with so far he has either lost or just done enough, and they are fighters a level or two below Magee.
agree to disagree i think

[Top Dog]

poss too much for Tony, but smigga is an unknown entity at that level, so hard to say if magee would be too good. if smigga beats dodson, which i am pulling for, then he will deserve to be in the ring with magee.

:lol::lol:Magee belts the shit out of Smigga every day of the week ,easily

[avidlemon]

:lol::lol:Magee belts the shit out of Smigga every day of the week ,easily

it's all opinions though innit. think magee is class thouigh

[LP_1985]

avidlemon are u a trainer or something. u said u was in smigga's camp

[avidlemon]

avidlemon are u a trainer or something. u said u was in smigga's camp

Did i say in his camp?

Defo no trainer, you would understand if you saw my embarrasing paunch!

No i am just a fan, think he has got the beating of dodo, but it won't be easy, and i want to give respect to dodo by saying i think he will be a massive test for Paul.
We all got our favourites, and anyone who sees a lot of my posts will know Smigga is one of my favourites.
Magee would be a tough fight for both guys though, but Smith needs those sorts of fights if he comes through dodson, or else he wont progress, or get the respect he deserves

[LP_1985]

Did i say in his camp?

Defo no trainer, you would understand if you saw my embarrasing paunch!

No i am just a fan, think he has got the beating of dodo, but it won't be easy, and i want to give respect to dodo by saying i think he will be a massive test for Paul.
We all got our favourites, and anyone who sees a lot of my posts will know Smigga is one of my favourites.
Magee would be a tough fight for both guys though, but Smith needs those sorts of fights if he comes through dodson, or else he wont progress, or get the respect he deserves

i thought un did mate. must of read it wrong. i like smith alot more than dodson and hope he wins. dodson got a big size advantage tho. i was edging towards dodson but aint so sure now.

[avidlemon]

i thought un did mate. must of read it wrong. i like smith alot more than dodson and hope he wins. dodson got a big size advantage tho. i was edging towards dodson but aint so sure now.

Thing with dodo is that he could probably comfortably make LHW, and more than likely has to burn a lot more to get to SMW that Smigga. I think this may have it's advantages for Smigga.
Dodson will bring something Smigga hasn't had properly in his career, which is a war. H e has played it rough a few times. When he fought Jonathan Reid in usa v uk contender, there was a lot of holding, and fighting on the inside, and smigga showed he could mix it. Plus when the fight was like this, smigga showed he oculd find the space and tagged his man well, putting him down.
I see the fight with dodo going a similar way. Dodo will have more natural strength than anyone smigga has faced before too, and he will bring it big time. But i have seen smigga thrive on this type of fight where it is on top.
I see a close ud for paul or mid to late stoppage for smigga depending on how quickly he gets in to his stride.

[LP_1985]

Thing with dodo is that he could probably comfortably make LHW, and more than likely has to burn a lot more to get to SMW that Smigga. I think this may have it's advantages for Smigga.
Dodson will bring something Smigga hasn't had properly in his career, which is a war. H e has played it rough a few times. When he fought Jonathan Reid in usa v uk contender, there was a lot of holding, and fighting on the inside, and smigga showed he could mix it. Plus when the fight was like this, smigga showed he oculd find the space and tagged his man well, putting him down.
I see the fight with dodo going a similar way. Dodo will have more natural strength than anyone smigga has faced before too, and he will bring it big time. But i have seen smigga thrive on this type of fight where it is on top.
I see a close ud for paul or mid to late stoppage for smigga depending on how quickly he gets in to his stride.

not really fanceing a stoppage on this for smigga. do u think as he steps it up the beter he will perform

[avidlemon]

not really fanceing a stoppage on this for smigga. do u think as he steps it up the beter he will perform

I think so, and he always seems to find a way to win too, apart from the bendall blemish on his record, which to be fair was pretty scandalous

[LP_1985]

yea i agree with that. ithink bendall has a gym down my way. i no a bloke who knows all 3 smiths (not including calum) and he reckons liam is the most talented but from what i seen in his last fight i wasnt impressed. stephie looks quality tho but sometimes a lil to eager for the knockout

[smigga]

Some funny comments on here, and the monster thread on this forum:yep

"Dodson too big too strong"
"I'll smash Paul Smith - Simple"
"I hate Paul Smith, talks like he is Muhammad Ali"

Someone hit the nail on the head saying I couldn't win no matter what on this forum, it's a lose lose situation.
Going into this fight (according to most on this particular thread) I was in with a PROPER super middleweight, a big puncher who'd knock me out and a genuine warrior. He dwarfed me at press conferences and I'm only a middleweight - apparently.

So I won, convincingly, was too strong for him, too durable, too fit and too brave. The warrior showed no heart and didn't want to win. Had his own heart broke when he didn't hurt me with his best shot in the 6th round and was desperate for the fight to end on cuts. - Simple "guys"
His mates have been on here saying the referee is a frank ****** referee been back handed ffs:patsch:happy

I've never been disrespected as much by a fellow boxer as I got in the last fight, and I've never bad mouthed a fighter the way I do Dodson, but it is deserved. Respect is earned, not demanded and it is easily lost.

Some comments about me are way off the mark, I'm not cocky, arrogant or big headed and I don't disrespect fighters. I don't think I am better than I am and I don't talk of world titles like they are a God given right to me. I am proud being British champion, God willing I will hopefully win the European and if I can get a crack at a world title I will give my every last ounce to try and win it - Those who know me will confirm that whether they like me or not.:good

Thanks for reading, glad to clear a few things up. Thanks for the support as always!

Paul Smith - LIVERPOOL! :good:thumbsup;)

PS - The Quigley post fight Sky interview. "Can't get motivated" meant I WAS motivated for Quigley, and for that title. Meaning I gave more effort of course than fighting journeymen foreigners. I respect Tony Quigley. Did before the fight and do more after it, he is a very good fighter:good

PPS! - The "lacing my gloves" shout from dodson.... The gym he trained in at the time was MY GYM. Rotunda ABC. I was 14.... Do the maths from our DOB's.:patsch mine is 1982 dodson's is 1980. Can you turn pro at 16 in Britain?:hi:
I used to go on the pads with Kenny Willis and watch a prospect called Gary Lockett train - Then start my own training an hour later.

[cheekyvid]

so... are you going to go down to middle weight in the future? surely you can make it?

[smigga]

so... are you going to go down to middle weight in the future? surely you can make it?
If I could make it and be strong at it, I'd have stayed there.
I don't fear anyone at middleweight, that is certainly not the reason I moved up. Weight and performance were the only factors.
It's kind of Ironic that Dodson said I was taking the soft touch moving up to HIS weight category.

smith is flabby and soft round the stomach, he could and should be at middle where his much alleged but rarely seen power could have more effect
Didn't see this post of yours before I replied....
Soft around the stomach yet never been hurt there. Not every fighter is ripped and look like manny pacquiao.
Plus my power is there, don't worry about it rarely being seen ;)

[LHL]

Hows the cuts? Will you be out anytime soon and is it against Magee?

[smigga]

Hows the cuts? Will you be out anytime soon and is it against Magee?
Cuts are healing well thank you. Obviously they were baddens but the worst are in my hair, high up on my head and likely to never open up again.
So I only have one on my eye 'keep my eye on' for boxing.

I don't mind who it is, anyone. I want to go forwards now....:good

[dave-mcgibbon]

Cuts are healing well thank you. Obviously they were baddens but the worst are in my hair, high up on my head and likely to never open up again.
So I only have one on my eye 'keep my eye on' for boxing.

I don't mind who it is, anyone. I want to go forwards now....:good

How long do you expect to be out of action with the cuts Paul? Do you think you'll manage to get the two defenses of the lonsdale belt in before a WBO shot?

[Bonavena25]

Smigga, I was commenting earlier on the thread that you step in with the jab alot of time, which means that opponents often tie you up before you can get off with the big right hand. Have you ever thought of employing a range-finder type jab and staying back and fighting more on the outside, and giving yourself more space to get your shots off?

Congrats on the win by the way.

[smigga]

How long do you expect to be out of action with the cuts Paul? Do you think you'll manage to get the two defenses of the lonsdale belt in before a WBO shot?
That's Frank's job. I just sit down and discuss my options with him and the matchmaker. They haven't done me wrong so far.
I'll be fighting June/July thanks:good

[Dan684]

You know what Tony, before I saw this thread I always thought you were a bit of a gobshite (no offence) and rated yourself better than you was.

However after watching the build up to this fight in particular and listening to Dodsons talk before hand I started to warm to you a little more. I don't think the last two fights of yours have been great but after watching you get cut so early it was plainly obvious to me that Dodson had no intention of doing anything else during the fight apart from charging in with his head and holding. After the 8th it was also apparent that it wasn't gonna get stopped and Dodson had no answer after that point. I found myself respecting you a hell of a lot more after that fight and having read your recent comments on here it seems I may have been wrong.

Fair play mate and best of luck :good

[LHL]

Cuts are healing well thank you. Obviously they were baddens but the worst are in my hair, high up on my head and likely to never open up again.
So I only have one on my eye 'keep my eye on' for boxing.

I don't mind who it is, anyone. I want to go forwards now....:good

Good to hear, they looked nasty. I'm sure you will have Williamson in your corner again :yep

[smigga]

Smigga, I was commenting earlier on the thread that you step in with the jab alot of time, which means that opponents often tie you up before you can get off with the big right hand. Have you ever thought of employing a range-finder type jab and staying back and fighting more on the outside, and giving yourself more space to get your shots off?

Congrats on the win by the way.
Thanks Bonavena, yes I know exactly what you mean. My problem is I'm over eager. Some will disagree but when you know you can hurt someone with a jab, you wanna do it all the time.
I know it's wrong, every trainer that has worked with me has told me so. I just get a bit carried away and want to win at any costs. The gameplan went with dodson due to a bad cut in 1st round.
Gameplan with Quigley went in mid rounds due to same. But I'm learning to deal with cuts more now and there was a strong mental improvement for my last fight.

[ishy]

You know what Tony, before I saw this thread I always thought you were a bit of a gobshite (no offence) and rated yourself better than you was.

However after watching the build up to this fight in particular and listening to Dodsons talk before hand I started to warm to you a little more. I don't think the last two fights of yours have been great but after watching you get cut so early it was plainly obvious to me that Dodson had no intention of doing anything else during the fight apart from charging in with his head and holding. After the 8th it was also apparent that it wasn't gonna get stopped and Dodson had no answer after that point. I found myself respecting you a hell of a lot more after that fight and having read your recent comments on here it seems I may have been wrong.

Fair play mate and best of luck :good

:rofl:rofl:rofl

[smigga]

You know what Tony, before I saw this thread I always thought you were a bit of a gobshite (no offence) and rated yourself better than you was.

However after watching the build up to this fight in particular and listening to Dodsons talk before hand I started to warm to you a little more. I don't think the last two fights of yours have been great but after watching you get cut so early it was plainly obvious to me that Dodson had no intention of doing anything else during the fight apart from charging in with his head and holding. After the 8th it was also apparent that it wasn't gonna get stopped and Dodson had no answer after that point. I found myself respecting you a hell of a lot more after that fight and having read your recent comments on here it seems I may have been wrong.

Fair play mate and best of luck :good
Well thanks a lot mate(even if you called me Tony:yep:rofl)
Takes a big man to admit they are wrong....
Something the many dodson fans and himself are yet to do:thumbsup

[Dan684]

Fuck yeah you're called Paul sorry :deal

I wasn't being smart there either even though Ishy is laughing. I had stated so before about you so I wasn't gonna lie about it and start sucking up to you coz you now post here :good

Also even though I wasn't over-keen (at the time of course) I went to the Echo on my own for your Quigley fight and was stone cold sober but when you came out to 'real Gone Kid' and the crowd did that litttle "Ooooh Oooh" that was one of the best ringwalks I've seen. Top atmosphere :good























MEN still shits on the echo though :deal :lol:

[s23041983]

Some funny comments on here, and the monster thread on this forum:yep

"Dodson too big too strong"
"I'll smash Paul Smith - Simple"
"I hate Paul Smith, talks like he is Muhammad Ali"

Someone hit the nail on the head saying I couldn't win no matter what on this forum, it's a lose lose situation.
Going into this fight (according to most on this particular thread) I was in with a PROPER super middleweight, a big puncher who'd knock me out and a genuine warrior. He dwarfed me at press conferences and I'm only a middleweight - apparently.

So I won, convincingly, was too strong for him, too durable, too fit and too brave. The warrior showed no heart and didn't want to win. Had his own heart broke when he didn't hurt me with his best shot in the 6th round and was desperate for the fight to end on cuts. - Simple "guys"
His mates have been on here saying the referee is a frank ****** referee been back handed ffs:patsch:happy

I've never been disrespected as much by a fellow boxer as I got in the last fight, and I've never bad mouthed a fighter the way I do Dodson, but it is deserved. Respect is earned, not demanded and it is easily lost.

Some comments about me are way off the mark, I'm not cocky, arrogant or big headed and I don't disrespect fighters. I don't think I am better than I am and I don't talk of world titles like they are a God given right to me. I am proud being British champion, God willing I will hopefully win the European and if I can get a crack at a world title I will give my every last ounce to try and win it - Those who know me will confirm that whether they like me or not.:good

Thanks for reading, glad to clear a few things up. Thanks for the support as always!

Paul Smith - LIVERPOOL! :good:thumbsup;)

PS - The Quigley post fight Sky interview. "Can't get motivated" meant I WAS motivated for Quigley, and for that title. Meaning I gave more effort of course than fighting journeymen foreigners. I respect Tony Quigley. Did before the fight and do more after it, he is a very good fighter:good

PPS! - The "lacing my gloves" shout from dodson.... The gym he trained in at the time was MY GYM. Rotunda ABC. I was 14.... Do the maths from our DOB's.:patsch mine is 1982 dodson's is 1980. Can you turn pro at 16 in Britain?:hi:
I used to go on the pads with Kenny Willis and watch a prospect called Gary Lockett train - Then start my own training an hour later.
must admit smigg, I was one of the ones that thought this comment was pretty arrogant, but thanks for putting me right about the comment here, I obviousely understood it wrong!! :good

[smigga]

Fuck yeah you're called Paul sorry :deal

I wasn't being smart there either even though Ishy is laughing. I had stated so before about you so I wasn't gonna lie about it and start sucking up to you coz you now post here :good

Also even though I wasn't over-keen (at the time of course) I went to the Echo on my own for your Quigley fight and was stone cold sober but when you came out to 'real Gone Kid' and the crowd did that litttle "Ooooh Oooh" that was one of the best ringwalks I've seen. Top atmosphere :good























MEN still shits on the echo though :deal :lol:

Haha, hopefully us Scousers can get The Echo Arena as good as the MEN.
No night will ever for me top Hatton v Tszyu like, amazing.

Glad you like the entrance, something that's stuck with me/my family since we were kids. Mancs love the stone roses, scousers love Deacon Blue!

PS. I won't be posting on here now haha. Too much hassle these forums mate I'd never get any time to myself:hey:hey:hey:yep:silly

[Dan684]

Haha, hopefully us Scousers can get The Echo Arena as good as the MEN.
No night will ever for me top Hatton v Tszyu like, amazing.

Glad you like the entrance, something that's stuck with me/my family since we were kids. Mancs love the stone roses, scousers love Deacon Blue!

PS. I won't be posting on here now haha. Too much hassle these forums mate I'd never get any time to myself:hey:hey:hey:yep:silly

Sod you then scouse b*stard :lol:

[smigga]

must admit smigg, I was one of the ones that thought this comment was pretty arrogant, but thanks for putting me right about the comment here, I obviously understood it wrong!! :good

No to be honest I was that "wired" from winning the title and the occasion I probably was blabbing shite out that sounded great in my head but never made sense.
I've never been more up for a fight than the quigley fight. 100% motivated and ready.
I was trying to make a point of 'look I can get up for fights when there is a lot at stake, ie this belt'

It could have been worse. I could have spoke about myself as the 3rd person:hi::yep

[Bonavena25]

Thanks Bonavena, yes I know exactly what you mean. My problem is I'm over eager. Some will disagree but when you know you can hurt someone with a jab, you wanna do it all the time.
I know it's wrong, every trainer that has worked with me has told me so. I just get a bit carried away and want to win at any costs. The gameplan went with dodson due to a bad cut in 1st round.
Gameplan with Quigley went in mid rounds due to same. But I'm learning to deal with cuts more now and there was a strong mental improvement for my last fight.

At least with your style though you'll be very hard to outpoint, cause you're always the aggressor. The danger with sitting back and being a 'boxer' is that you end up throwing too little. Hard to get the balance. Probably best to stick with you feel comfortable doing :good

[s23041983]

No to be honest I was that "wired" from winning the title and the occasion I probably was blabbing shite out that sounded great in my head but never made sense.
I've never been more up for a fight than the quigley fight. 100% motivated and ready.
I was trying to make a point of 'look I can get up for fights when there is a lot at stake, ie this belt'

It could have been worse. I could have spoke about myself as the 3rd person:hi::yep
haha, now that would have been arrogant!!! :rofl :good

obviousely you'll be out for a few months yet but has any names been put forward to you besides brian magee? what are your thoughts on figthing vitali tsypko or librado andrade? i mentioned these two because i think they would be a good step up from domestic. :think

[onourway]

Smigga....

You vs DeGale.

Who wins and how?

[s23041983]

Smigga....

You vs DeGale.

Who wins and how?
smigga by degale brickin it after the 6th round :think

[scouse red man]

Some funny comments on here, and the monster thread on this forum:yep

"Dodson too big too strong"
"I'll smash Paul Smith - Simple"
"I hate Paul Smith, talks like he is Muhammad Ali"

Someone hit the nail on the head saying I couldn't win no matter what on this forum, it's a lose lose situation.
Going into this fight (according to most on this particular thread) I was in with a PROPER super middleweight, a big puncher who'd knock me out and a genuine warrior. He dwarfed me at press conferences and I'm only a middleweight - apparently.

So I won, convincingly, was too strong for him, too durable, too fit and too brave. The warrior showed no heart and didn't want to win. Had his own heart broke when he didn't hurt me with his best shot in the 6th round and was desperate for the fight to end on cuts. - Simple "guys"
His mates have been on here saying the referee is a frank ****** referee been back handed ffs:patsch:happy

I've never been disrespected as much by a fellow boxer as I got in the last fight, and I've never bad mouthed a fighter the way I do Dodson, but it is deserved. Respect is earned, not demanded and it is easily lost.

Some comments about me are way off the mark, I'm not cocky, arrogant or big headed and I don't disrespect fighters. I don't think I am better than I am and I don't talk of world titles like they are a God given right to me. I am proud being British champion, God willing I will hopefully win the European and if I can get a crack at a world title I will give my every last ounce to try and win it - Those who know me will confirm that whether they like me or not.:good

Thanks for reading, glad to clear a few things up. Thanks for the support as always!

Paul Smith - LIVERPOOL! :good:thumbsup;)

PS - The Quigley post fight Sky interview. "Can't get motivated" meant I WAS motivated for Quigley, and for that title. Meaning I gave more effort of course than fighting journeymen foreigners. I respect Tony Quigley. Did before the fight and do more after it, he is a very good fighter:good

PPS! - The "lacing my gloves" shout from dodson.... The gym he trained in at the time was MY GYM. Rotunda ABC. I was 14.... Do the maths from our DOB's.:patsch mine is 1982 dodson's is 1980. Can you turn pro at 16 in Britain?:hi:
I used to go on the pads with Kenny Willis and watch a prospect called Gary Lockett train - Then start my own training an hour later.


With all due respect Paul, I find it quite odd how you you found this thread, on which the last post was made about 6 weeks ago.
I have no wish to come across as a heavyweight keyboard warrior or to start a slanging match of any sort - cos you'd batter me!
Have you really trawled this site looking for a platform on which to gloat?
I don't mind admitting that I am a Dodson fan and I backed him to beat you - cost me 20 quid :patsch and I had a good old sparring session with a guy called avidlemon - he will absolutely wet himself when he finds you're posting on here - on who would win, over on the monster thread you referred to.
But I promised I would show up on here if you won and here I am. I gave you credit for winning as you were in with a "proper super-middle".
But I just feel you showing up here after the event lacks a little grace.
Bad losers are 1 thing but bad winners are something else.

[achillesthegreat]

Some funny comments on here, and the monster thread on this forum:yep

"Dodson too big too strong"
"I'll smash Paul Smith - Simple"
"I hate Paul Smith, talks like he is Muhammad Ali"

Someone hit the nail on the head saying I couldn't win no matter what on this forum, it's a lose lose situation.
Going into this fight (according to most on this particular thread) I was in with a PROPER super middleweight, a big puncher who'd knock me out and a genuine warrior. He dwarfed me at press conferences and I'm only a middleweight - apparently.

So I won, convincingly, was too strong for him, too durable, too fit and too brave. The warrior showed no heart and didn't want to win. Had his own heart broke when he didn't hurt me with his best shot in the 6th round and was desperate for the fight to end on cuts. - Simple "guys"
His mates have been on here saying the referee is a frank ****** referee been back handed ffs:patsch:happy

I've never been disrespected as much by a fellow boxer as I got in the last fight, and I've never bad mouthed a fighter the way I do Dodson, but it is deserved. Respect is earned, not demanded and it is easily lost.

Some comments about me are way off the mark, I'm not cocky, arrogant or big headed and I don't disrespect fighters. I don't think I am better than I am and I don't talk of world titles like they are a God given right to me. I am proud being British champion, God willing I will hopefully win the European and if I can get a crack at a world title I will give my every last ounce to try and win it - Those who know me will confirm that whether they like me or not.:good

Thanks for reading, glad to clear a few things up. Thanks for the support as always!

Paul Smith - LIVERPOOL! :good:thumbsup;)

PS - The Quigley post fight Sky interview. "Can't get motivated" meant I WAS motivated for Quigley, and for that title. Meaning I gave more effort of course than fighting journeymen foreigners. I respect Tony Quigley. Did before the fight and do more after it, he is a very good fighter:good

PPS! - The "lacing my gloves" shout from dodson.... The gym he trained in at the time was MY GYM. Rotunda ABC. I was 14.... Do the maths from our DOB's.:patsch mine is 1982 dodson's is 1980. Can you turn pro at 16 in Britain?:hi:
I used to go on the pads with Kenny Willis and watch a prospect called Gary Lockett train - Then start my own training an hour later.
Dodson could have won but you are right it wasn't about size as you broke his will.

[Dan684]

With all due respect Paul, I find it quite odd how you you found this thread, on which the last post was made about 6 weeks ago.
I have no wish to come across as a heavyweight keyboard warrior or to start a slanging match of any sort - cos you'd batter me!
Have you really trawled this site looking for a platform on which to gloat?
I don't mind admitting that I am a Dodson fan and I backed him to beat you - cost me 20 quid :patsch and I had a good old sparring session with a guy called avidlemon - he will absolutely wet himself when he finds you're posting on here - on who would win, over on the monster thread you referred to.
But I promised I would show up on here if you won and here I am. I gave you credit for winning as you were in with a "proper super-middle".
But I just feel you showing up here after the event lacks a little grace.
Bad losers are 1 thing but bad winners are something else.

:lol:

Are you serious ? Read Dodsons comments on this forum to see a lack of Grace :deal

[avidlemon]

With all due respect Paul, I find it quite odd how you you found this thread, on which the last post was made about 6 weeks ago.
I have no wish to come across as a heavyweight keyboard warrior or to start a slanging match of any sort - cos you'd batter me!
Have you really trawled this site looking for a platform on which to gloat?
I don't mind admitting that I am a Dodson fan and I backed him to beat you - cost me 20 quid :patsch and I had a good old sparring session with a guy called avidlemon - he will absolutely wet himself when he finds you're posting on here - on who would win, over on the monster thread you referred to.
But I promised I would show up on here if you won and here I am. I gave you credit for winning as you were in with a "proper super-middle".
But I just feel you showing up here after the event lacks a little grace.
Bad losers are 1 thing but bad winners are something else.

alright scouse, you are funny! It is good that the man is posting on here. But 'fraid i didn't piss my pants. :lol:

[s23041983]

With all due respect Paul, I find it quite odd how you you found this thread, on which the last post was made about 6 weeks ago.
I have no wish to come across as a heavyweight keyboard warrior or to start a slanging match of any sort - cos you'd batter me!
Have you really trawled this site looking for a platform on which to gloat?
I don't mind admitting that I am a Dodson fan and I backed him to beat you - cost me 20 quid :patsch and I had a good old sparring session with a guy called avidlemon - he will absolutely wet himself when he finds you're posting on here - on who would win, over on the monster thread you referred to.
But I promised I would show up on here if you won and here I am. I gave you credit for winning as you were in with a "proper super-middle".
But I just feel you showing up here after the event lacks a little grace.
Bad losers are 1 thing but bad winners are something else.
if you read the first post properly, its not gloating more than putting a couple of things to rights. He mentions the people who think hes cocky, dodsons mates slaggin him off, the ammount of disrespect from dodson himself, his own comments and how they where misunderstood, the fact that he is not saying he is better than he is or destined for world status... so I guess when you havent been on here in years you dont now where to post these comments so i think hes just came here and typed tony dodson in the search box and found this thread. He feels he needs to get a few things off his chest and he has done, so I dont think we will see him on here anymore to be honest... and i dont blame him!! :good

[avidlemon]

if you read the first post properly, its not gloating more than putting a couple of things to rights. He mentions the people who think hes cocky, dodsons mates slaggin him off, the ammount of disrespect from dodson himself, his own comments and how they where misunderstood, the fact that he is not saying he is better than he is or destined for world status... so I guess when you havent been on here in years you dont now where to post these comments so i think hes just came here and typed tony dodson in the search box and found this thread. He feels he needs to get a few things off his chest and he has done, so I dont think we will see him on here anymore to be honest... and i dont blame him!! :good
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup
well said put scouse in his place!

[scouse red man]

alright scouse, you are funny! It is good that the man is posting on here. But 'fraid i didn't piss my pants. :lol:


I had that cheeky glint in my eye when i made the "wet his pants" remark. :good
if you read the first post properly, its not gloating more than putting a couple of things to rights. He mentions the people who think hes cocky, dodsons mates slaggin him off, the ammount of disrespect from dodson himself, his own comments and how they where misunderstood, the fact that he is not saying he is better than he is or destined for world status... so I guess when you havent been on here in years you dont now where to post these comments so i think hes just came here and typed tony dodson in the search box and found this thread. He feels he needs to get a few things off his chest and he has done, so I dont think we will see him on here anymore to be honest... and i dont blame him!! :good


You just hit the nail on the head - why type Tony Dodson in his search box? Smigga won, congratulations, move on!
That's the point I'm trying to make.


:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup
well said put scouse in his place!


So avid, I don't think he put me in my place, more likely illustrated my point. :good

[avidlemon]

[quote=scouse red man;6401023]I had that cheeky glint in my eye when i made the "wet his pants" remark. :good


thought you might have mate, i found it quite funny, had to supress my chorlte in front of my office colleagues!

[avidlemon]

Scouse Red Man, what a sad twat you are.

There was nothing wrong with one of the actual fighter's in the thread i.e. Paul Smith actually joing the debate on HIMSELF and actually it was a bold thing of him to come on here and address anoraks like you.

to then start deriding Smith's efforts and making out he searched for the topic as some sort of saddo and that he needs to 'move on' is hilarious. All you need is a car that falls apart and a flower that squirts water and you'd be all set as the complete clown.

smigga - well done, you showed big balls to fight through the blood. If anything that claret on your face actually flattered Dodson's efforts because as usual he didnt do a lot.

time for dodson to turn it in defintely, id thank him for the memories but there arent any.

hopefully his fan(s?) will follow suit and retire from the forum.
:good

quality post mate

[LP_1985]

Scouse Red Man, what a sad twat you are.

There was nothing wrong with one of the actual fighter's in the thread i.e. Paul Smith actually joing the debate on HIMSELF and actually it was a bold thing of him to come on here and address anoraks like you.

to then start deriding Smith's efforts and making out he searched for the topic as some sort of saddo and that he needs to 'move on' is hilarious. All you need is a car that falls apart and a flower that squirts water and you'd be all set as the complete clown.

smigga - well done, you showed big balls to fight through the blood. If anything that claret on your face actually flattered Dodson's efforts because as usual he didnt do a lot.

time for dodson to turn it in defintely, id thank him for the memories but there arent any.

hopefully his fan(s?) will follow suit and retire from the forum.

when did he post on here.

good shout:thumbsup

[smigga]

In honesty someone posted this on my facebook page and asked me to read it as there was 'some' support on here for me. I read the big massive thread and then read more of dodson's idiotic posts on here. I'm not a bad winner or loser, but could anyone blame me if I did gloat? Which again I am not doing by the way.

The comments I have had written about me by Dodson's "fans" and himself were out of order and incorrect.... I'm a big fan of admitting when I'm wrong. The only ones that did that are the ones that don't know dodson!

I was just proving my point that so many new users appeared before this fight, on here and other forums. It was pathetic. All it comes down to is 2 boxers in the ring, your mates can't help you! I knew that all along.

So anyway, no gloating, I'm not a bad winner(which nobody could begrudge in this instance if I was!) and I'm happy with the support and well wishes I received. That was all.

Thanks again, all the best,

Paul

[Dan684]

No I wouldn't begrudge you being a bad winner in fact I reccomend it. If Dodson wanted to come on here and mouth off then It's great that you come on and rub it in his face 'post-fight'

You should stay on here too and get involved Paul :good fighters are always welcomed on here (apart from Rob Palmer who'll no doubt try and make a name for himself ny running his fingers/mouth with you)

[Mandanda]

No I wouldn't begrudge you being a bad winner in fact I reccomend it. If Dodson wanted to come on here and mouth off then It's great that you come on and rub it in his face 'post-fight'

You should stay on here too and get involved Paul :good fighters are always welcomed on here (apart from Rob Palmer who'll no doubt try and make a name for himself ny running his fingers/mouth with you)
I second that. You've proved your point and cleared up the issues you felt were needed to be cleared up. You seem forthright in your views like Mr Bellew and he's building nice fan base not only in Liverpool but from us posters on here so i think only good can come of you now and then posting your views and updating your fans about latest goings on in your career and your brothers careers.

[LHL]

Quigley flattened Check Kongo in the gym and rampage wouldn't get in the ring with him after it FACT. Paul Kelly tells me that Quigley is the hardest puncher he's ever been hit by and that all the lads at the wolfslair say the same thing, Tony's Dad used to be the boxing coach at the wolfslair and left, They wanted Tony to go in the UFC and Tony's dad didn't want him to.. Simple as that really, Tony Quigley has amazing core strength that comes from his Karate background!! The kid has an unreal chin and is amazingly physiacally strong!! He isn't the biggest puncher BUT is a very good fighter who'll give any middleweight in Britain problems...

:lol: I'm glad i went back to read these posts i missed this. Tony handing out a beaten to the Wolfslair crew.

[Grant1]

Some funny comments on here, and the monster thread on this forum:yep

"Dodson too big too strong"
"I'll smash Paul Smith - Simple"
"I hate Paul Smith, talks like he is Muhammad Ali"

Someone hit the nail on the head saying I couldn't win no matter what on this forum, it's a lose lose situation.
Going into this fight (according to most on this particular thread) I was in with a PROPER super middleweight, a big puncher who'd knock me out and a genuine warrior. He dwarfed me at press conferences and I'm only a middleweight - apparently.

So I won, convincingly, was too strong for him, too durable, too fit and too brave. The warrior showed no heart and didn't want to win. Had his own heart broke when he didn't hurt me with his best shot in the 6th round and was desperate for the fight to end on cuts. - Simple "guys"
His mates have been on here saying the referee is a frank ****** referee been back handed ffs:patsch:happy

I've never been disrespected as much by a fellow boxer as I got in the last fight, and I've never bad mouthed a fighter the way I do Dodson, but it is deserved. Respect is earned, not demanded and it is easily lost.

Some comments about me are way off the mark, I'm not cocky, arrogant or big headed and I don't disrespect fighters. I don't think I am better than I am and I don't talk of world titles like they are a God given right to me. I am proud being British champion, God willing I will hopefully win the European and if I can get a crack at a world title I will give my every last ounce to try and win it - Those who know me will confirm that whether they like me or not.:good

Thanks for reading, glad to clear a few things up. Thanks for the support as always!

Paul Smith - LIVERPOOL! :good:thumbsup;)

PS - The Quigley post fight Sky interview. "Can't get motivated" meant I WAS motivated for Quigley, and for that title. Meaning I gave more effort of course than fighting journeymen foreigners. I respect Tony Quigley. Did before the fight and do more after it, he is a very good fighter:good

PPS! - The "lacing my gloves" shout from dodson.... The gym he trained in at the time was MY GYM. Rotunda ABC. I was 14.... Do the maths from our DOB's.:patsch mine is 1982 dodson's is 1980. Can you turn pro at 16 in Britain?:hi:
I used to go on the pads with Kenny Willis and watch a prospect called Gary Lockett train - Then start my own training an hour later.

That's a quality post mate :good

Stick around, it'd be nice to have your input.

As long as you ignore the keyboard warriors the other 95% of the posters are sound.

[avidlemon]

In honesty someone posted this on my facebook page and asked me to read it as there was 'some' support on here for me. I read the big massive thread and then read more of dodson's idiotic posts on here. I'm not a bad winner or loser, but could anyone blame me if I did gloat? Which again I am not doing by the way.

The comments I have had written about me by Dodson's "fans" and himself were out of order and incorrect.... I'm a big fan of admitting when I'm wrong. The only ones that did that are the ones that don't know dodson!

I was just proving my point that so many new users appeared before this fight, on here and other forums. It was pathetic. All it comes down to is 2 boxers in the ring, your mates can't help you! I knew that all along.

So anyway, no gloating, I'm not a bad winner(which nobody could begrudge in this instance if I was!) and I'm happy with the support and well wishes I received. That was all.

Thanks again, all the best,

Paul

Alright Paul, as you have probably gathered from my posts on this thread, and the avid thread, i am a big fan, but not an arse kisser. You were shat on from a great height by the dodson newbies, and dodson himself. I mean to suggest a dedicated pro is just a lazy middleweight, or light middleweight must have been extremely annoying to read.
i think most of the regualr poster were fair in their assesment of the fight, and what would happen, i thought you would win, but did say that it had to be respected what dodson could potentially bring to the table, and that he may cause a couple of problems, simply because he had been a decent operator.
However, the newbies are no where to be seen, as is dodson as basically the truth was served up to them when you beat him. he is finished, and you were not bullied by him, and took his best shots.
i think it is good you have come on here to post, and defend yourself against some of the shit that has been said. As other posters have said, it would be great to have your regular input.
By the way, any inkling on what the next step is going to be? Magee, or anything likely to happen with stieglitz?
anyway mate, you can forget about dodson now, as the pair of you are going in different directions:good

[cheekyvid]

If I could make it and be strong at it, I'd have stayed there.
I don't fear anyone at middleweight, that is certainly not the reason I moved up. Weight and performance were the only factors.
It's kind of Ironic that Dodson said I was taking the soft touch moving up to HIS weight category.


Didn't see this post of yours before I replied....
Soft around the stomach yet never been hurt there. Not every fighter is ripped and look like manny pacquiao.
Plus my power is there, don't worry about it rarely being seen ;)


Fair enough. We always hear so much about your power though, frm trainers etc but rarely see it in fights. Is it a worry that it isn't showing at this level as when you step up, things are likely gonna be tougher?
Do u have trouble reproducing power in fights as opposed to training?
Genuine question, no wind up

[cheekyvid]

If u read the other thread, ull see I picked u to win. Just to make it clear I'm no dodson fanboy

[smigga]

Fair enough. We always hear so much about your power though, frm trainers etc but rarely see it in fights. Is it a worry that it isn't showing at this level as when you step up, things are likely gonna be tougher?
Do u have trouble reproducing power in fights as opposed to training?
Genuine question, no wind up
Doesn't bother me no, not at all. I know it's there. Watch my last two fights, I didn't land a proper clean power shot in either fight. Cleanly connected and on the button I mean.

Why was I held so much inside in my last 2 fights? It's no secret I'm a decent body puncher and like to let go downstairs.... I fight from clinches well but when you're mauled inside it nullifies that.

But regardless, I try too hard, I've always known that. I'm not the type of fighter to relax and maybe lose one or two rounds due to not working then kick myself for years due to not giving 100% and losing!

[s23041983]

Doesn't bother me no, not at all. I know it's there. Watch my last two fights, I didn't land a proper clean power shot in either fight. Cleanly connected and on the button I mean.

Why was I held so much inside in my last 2 fights? It's no secret I'm a decent body puncher and like to let go downstairs.... I fight from clinches well but when you're mauled inside it nullifies that.

But regardless, I try too hard, I've always known that. I'm not the type of fighter to relax and maybe lose one or two rounds due to not working then kick myself for years due to not giving 100% and losing!
exactly!! anyone who knows your style or fights regularly in this country would do the same thing. theres no way anybodys gonna let you loose on the inside, being a natural bodypuncher. i mean look at the matumla fight at the MEN, he had never been down in his career and because he didnt know what to expect, he gave you plenty of room and you knocked him out :deal
the more famous you become as a fighter, the less room you are gonna get to operate because of your powerful bodyshots!!

[s23041983]

In honesty someone posted this on my facebook page and asked me to read it as there was 'some' support on here for me. I read the big massive thread and then read more of dodson's idiotic posts on here. I'm not a bad winner or loser, but could anyone blame me if I did gloat? Which again I am not doing by the way.

The comments I have had written about me by Dodson's "fans" and himself were out of order and incorrect.... I'm a big fan of admitting when I'm wrong. The only ones that did that are the ones that don't know dodson!

I was just proving my point that so many new users appeared before this fight, on here and other forums. It was pathetic. All it comes down to is 2 boxers in the ring, your mates can't help you! I knew that all along.

So anyway, no gloating, I'm not a bad winner(which nobody could begrudge in this instance if I was!) and I'm happy with the support and well wishes I received. That was all.

Thanks again, all the best,

Paul
erm...yeah, that was me :roll:

[avidlemon]

erm...yeah, that was me :roll:

busted kid!

[scouse red man]

Scouse Red Man, what a sad twat you are.

There was nothing wrong with one of the actual fighter's in the thread i.e. Paul Smith actually joing the debate on HIMSELF and actually it was a bold thing of him to come on here and address anoraks like you.

to then start deriding Smith's efforts and making out he searched for the topic as some sort of saddo and that he needs to 'move on' is hilarious. All you need is a car that falls apart and a flower that squirts water and you'd be all set as the complete clown.

smigga - well done, you showed big balls to fight through the blood. If anything that claret on your face actually flattered Dodson's efforts because as usual he didnt do a lot.

time for dodson to turn it in defintely, id thank him for the memories but there arent any.

hopefully his fan(s?) will follow suit and retire from the forum.


A very interesting choice of words from someone who has the moniker "Worcester warrior".

Had you been involved in this thread earlier or the one leading up to the Smith vs Dodson fight you would have noticed that Paul Smith did NOT join in the debate on HIMSELF. He decided to show up and share his thoughts AFTER he won. Would he have posted on here had he NOT won? Doubtful isn't it? Had HE been involved earlier, then you could say he joined in the debate.

You refer to me as an anorak yet you are credited with over 1000 posts!!!??? HHHHMMMMM, interesting. :huh

There are guys who post on here a hell of a lot more than me. All I do is come on for a boxing chat and the banter. Banter may be a new thing for you as you're probably sat on a rocking chair with Grandma, chewing straw, while cousin John-boy plays the banjo on a remote farm in the middle of nowhere. But that's okay. It won't be held against ya. :good

But you can ask the few regular posters on the Smigga - Dodson threads, I credit Paul for coming through the fight with them cuts, he showed a lot of heart.

And no. I won't retire from the forum. I will continue enjoying sharing my opinion with other boxing fans and slack-jawed yokels like yourself, alike.

Aye thang yaw.

[Primadonna Kool]

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[avidlemon]

A very interesting choice of words from someone who has the moniker "Worcester warrior".

Had you been involved in this thread earlier or the one leading up to the Smith vs Dodson fight you would have noticed that Paul Smith did NOT join in the debate on HIMSELF. He decided to show up and share his thoughts AFTER he won. Would he have posted on here had he NOT won? Doubtful isn't it? Had HE been involved earlier, then you could say he joined in the debate.

You refer to me as an anorak yet you are credited with over 1000 posts!!!??? HHHHMMMMM, interesting. :huh

There are guys who post on here a hell of a lot more than me. All I do is come on for a boxing chat and the banter. Banter may be a new thing for you as you're probably sat on a rocking chair with Grandma, chewing straw, while cousin John-boy plays the banjo on a remote farm in the middle of nowhere. But that's okay. It won't be held against ya. :good

But you can ask the few regular posters on the Smigga - Dodson threads, I credit Paul for coming through the fight with them cuts, he showed a lot of heart.

And no. I won't retire from the forum. I will continue enjoying sharing my opinion with other boxing fans and slack-jawed yokels like yourself, alike.


Aye thang yaw.

hope you aren't counting me in the slack jawed category ;)

[scouse red man]

hope you aren't counting me in the slack jawed category ;)

No mate. I count you in the boxing fan category. :good

[avidlemon]

No mate. I count you in the boxing fan category. :good

woo hoo, i have made the transition :good

[scouse red man]

woo hoo, i have made the transition :good


Your last quote appears to be seasoned with sarcasm, Avid. :???:

[avidlemon]

Your last quote appears to be seasoned with sarcasm, Avid. :???:

yes, but in the most freinfly of terms! :good

[Leo Ross]

I was working offshore until today so just watched the fight, and I got it wrong as well. Had dodson by late stoppage, but Mick Williamson done a hell of a job there like. Fair play to Paul, he had all the answers on the night and deserves to move on now. And to be fair he deserves to come on and gloat after that performance, no-one should have a pop about that. He looks like the type of fighter that needs a good opponent to get the best out him, good luck in the future.

[hit me HARDER]

In honesty someone posted this on my facebook page and asked me to read it as there was 'some' support on here for me. I read the big massive thread and then read more of dodson's idiotic posts on here. I'm not a bad winner or loser, but could anyone blame me if I did gloat? Which again I am not doing by the way.

The comments I have had written about me by Dodson's "fans" and himself were out of order and incorrect.... I'm a big fan of admitting when I'm wrong. The only ones that did that are the ones that don't know dodson!

I was just proving my point that so many new users appeared before this fight, on here and other forums. It was pathetic. All it comes down to is 2 boxers in the ring, your mates can't help you! I knew that all along.

So anyway, no gloating, I'm not a bad winner(which nobody could begrudge in this instance if I was!) and I'm happy with the support and well wishes I received. That was all.

Thanks again, all the best,

Paul

I'll have that, great articulate post.

Must admit I was backing Quigley but that was a strictly personal thing, also this 'doorman' thing you say now & again, I've met you once or twice mate & you were saying the same thing (you were pissed to be fair & I was even worse) which is fair enough but I just thought 'oh change the record will ya' if you get me. The 'cut from a different cloth' comment didn't help either due to the scrappy performance that preceeded it, but as you have since said you can only fight what is put in front of you, and a British Title win is bound to gee you up somewhat. Fair enough.

In the build up to the Dodson fight I was indifferent, but towards the end was most definitely backing you, Tony seemed to turn the war of words a tad smutty, I mean, I'm into selling fights but Tony seemed to have a slightly poor attitude, whereas your comments seemed bang on target.

Then you went on to answer most of your critics in the ring, showed great heart, and have come on here to put your point across in a decent manner. No harm in that whatsoever.

Fair play to you mate, would love to see you get a crack at that WBO sometime soon. Best of luck.

[tony@dodson]

lets just get a few things straight here,i wasnt the one who started all the bad comments about me and paul,
it was his remarks at how he would knock me and tony quigley out in the same night {which he didnt do} that started all this,
as for winning convincingly?the boxing news had him winning by one round,
which if i hadnt got a point taken away it would have been a draw but hey look i didnt deserve the decision i dont want
anyone to think that iam being a sour loser iam far from it paul was and is the champion,he forced the pace and was the agresser,
i had a game plan and for the 1st time in my life i actually stuck to it and that was to box and move not get drawn in to a brawl.
Lets get some facts straight i havent been active enough to sustain a full 12 rounds like i did against quigley i was in the best shape
i have ever been in for the fight with paul but lets put it like this,if we took wayne rooney off the pitch now in the form he is in and
didnt let him kick a football for 12 months then do you honestly think that he would come bk on play a full 90 mins and be in the form
he is currently in now ?Dont think so guys LISTEN this isnt an excuse this is just a fact a busy fighter is a better fighter its that simple.
So I won, convincingly, was too strong for him, too durable, too fit and too brave. The warrior showed no heart and didn't want to win.
Had his own heart broke when he didn't hurt me with his best shot in the 6th round and was desperate for the fight to end on cuts. - Simple "guys"
?What the hell is all that about HE BROKE MY HEART ?bollocks he done nothing at all but give me confidence that i do still have the tools to do
things at british title level,lets not forget you are ranked 4 in the world by the W.B.O and have been busy getting rounds in which i carnt knock you for
but fact is a busy fighter is a better fight as i have said look the fight should have been stopped on them cuts ive been stopped for a lot less,
but fair play to you paul you stuck in there didnt panic and i give you credit for that,as for hitting you with my best shot in the 6th?
Dont know why you think that was my best shot i just caught you as you was walking in with your head down as you do,but look at the end of the day he won its that simple and good luck to him in the future.As for not deserveing respect as you have written i like to think ive done enough in my time as a fighter to have earned that
from the people that matter good luck to you in the future paul and thanks to all the fans that came and supported on both sides.PS sorry it took so long for reply to these threads as i had to make another account as i forgot my password and they didnt send me an email to reset but hay better late than never .cheers Tony Dodson

[cheekyvid]

lets just get a few things straight here,i wasnt the one who started all the bad comments about me and paul,
it was his remarks at how he would knock me and tony quigley out in the same night {which he didnt do} that started all this,
as for winning convincingly?the boxing news had him winning by one round,
which if i hadnt got a point taken away it would have been a draw but hey look i didnt deserve the decision i dont want
anyone to think that iam being a sour loser iam far from it paul was and is the champion,he forced the pace and was the agresser,
i had a game plan and for the 1st time in my life i actually stuck to it and that was to box and move not get drawn in to a brawl.
Lets get some facts straight i havent been active enough to sustain a full 12 rounds like i did against quigley i was in the best shape
i have ever been in for the fight with paul but lets put it like this,if we took wayne rooney off the pitch now in the form he is in and
didnt let him kick a football for 12 months then do you honestly think that he would come bk on play a full 90 mins and be in the form
he is currently in now ?Dont think so guys LISTEN this isnt an excuse this is just a fact a busy fighter is a better fighter its that simple.
So I won, convincingly, was too strong for him, too durable, too fit and too brave. The warrior showed no heart and didn't want to win.
Had his own heart broke when he didn't hurt me with his best shot in the 6th round and was desperate for the fight to end on cuts. - Simple "guys"
?What the hell is all that about HE BROKE MY HEART ?bollocks he done nothing at all but give me confidence that i do still have the tools to do
things at british title level,lets not forget you are ranked 4 in the world by the W.B.O and have been busy getting rounds in which i carnt knock you for
but fact is a busy fighter is a better fight as i have said look the fight should have been stopped on them cuts ive been stopped for a lot less,
but fair play to you paul you stuck in there didnt panic and i give you credit for that,as for hitting you with my best shot in the 6th?
Dont know why you think that was my best shot i just caught you as you was walking in with your head down as you do,but look at the end of the day he won its that simple and good luck to him in the future.As for not deserveing respect as you have written i like to think ive done enough in my time as a fighter to have earned that
from the people that matter good luck to you in the future paul and thanks to all the fans that came and supported on both sides.PS sorry it took so long for reply to these threads as i had to make another account as i forgot my password and they didnt send me an email to reset but hay better late than never .

typical paul smith hater here, "new account", never heard such rubbish before...

[tony@dodson]

dont hate paul smith at all buddy iam not a hater ive just explained why its a new account iam tony dodson buddy

[avidlemon]

lets just get a few things straight here,i wasnt the one who started all the bad comments about me and paul,
it was his remarks at how he would knock me and tony quigley out in the same night {which he didnt do} that started all this,
as for winning convincingly?the boxing news had him winning by one round,
which if i hadnt got a point taken away it would have been a draw but hey look i didnt deserve the decision i dont want
anyone to think that iam being a sour loser iam far from it paul was and is the champion,he forced the pace and was the agresser,
i had a game plan and for the 1st time in my life i actually stuck to it and that was to box and move not get drawn in to a brawl.
Lets get some facts straight i havent been active enough to sustain a full 12 rounds like i did against quigley i was in the best shape
i have ever been in for the fight with paul but lets put it like this,if we took wayne rooney off the pitch now in the form he is in and
didnt let him kick a football for 12 months then do you honestly think that he would come bk on play a full 90 mins and be in the form
he is currently in now ?Dont think so guys LISTEN this isnt an excuse this is just a fact a busy fighter is a better fighter its that simple.
So I won, convincingly, was too strong for him, too durable, too fit and too brave. The warrior showed no heart and didn't want to win.
Had his own heart broke when he didn't hurt me with his best shot in the 6th round and was desperate for the fight to end on cuts. - Simple "guys"
?What the hell is all that about HE BROKE MY HEART ?bollocks he done nothing at all but give me confidence that i do still have the tools to do
things at british title level,lets not forget you are ranked 4 in the world by the W.B.O and have been busy getting rounds in which i carnt knock you for
but fact is a busy fighter is a better fight as i have said look the fight should have been stopped on them cuts ive been stopped for a lot less,
but fair play to you paul you stuck in there didnt panic and i give you credit for that,as for hitting you with my best shot in the 6th?
Dont know why you think that was my best shot i just caught you as you was walking in with your head down as you do,but look at the end of the day he won its that simple and good luck to him in the future.As for not deserveing respect as you have written i like to think ive done enough in my time as a fighter to have earned that
from the people that matter good luck to you in the future paul and thanks to all the fans that came and supported on both sides.PS sorry it took so long for reply to these threads as i had to make another account as i forgot my password and they didnt send me an email to reset but hay better late than never .

Tony,

i respect you to a certain extent for coming on here and saying what you are saying i.e. you lost and you accept that.
But, according to you before the fight, you trained for the best paul smith, and were in the shape of your life, and you were going to smash him etc.
There was no talk from you as a caution that you had been inactive for as long as you were, only after.
If you two were fighting a meaningless 8 rounder, then the fight would have been stopped, but it was a championship fight, so you have to expect the ref to give each fighter fair opportunity to continue.
At the end of the day tony, you state you hadn;t been active enough to sustain 12 rounds of boxing, so why take the fight? As harsh as this sounds, as much as you say you have respect for the winner and so on, it just sounds to me like a bit of a rant to make us all understand why you didn't perform etc.
End of the day tony, you didn't bring it on the night, and i think it is a combination of you NOT having it in you to compete at that level any more, and the fight paul fought.
It wasn't as close as having one point in it in reality, and to be fair boxing news aren't known for their accurate scoring of fights.
I wish you well in your future tony, But i feel you need to have a sit down and consider if your future lies in british level boxing.

[tony@dodson]

thanks for the reply mate dually noted iam not making excuses it was a fight i couldnt refuse its that simple i had to take a gamble and it didnt pay off

[cheekyvid]

whats the plan now tony? gonna take some time off? - hope not as you say an active fighter is a better fighter, so you going to keep active?
do u reckon someone like degale could be a future opponent? how do you reckon you'd do against him/groves/anderson?

[Grant1]

Tony,

i respect you to a certain extent for coming on here and saying what you are saying i.e. you lost and you accept that.
But, according to you before the fight, you trained for the best paul smith, and were in the shape of your life, and you were going to smash him etc.
There was no talk from you as a caution that you had been inactive for as long as you were, only after.
If you two were fighting a meaningless 8 rounder, then the fight would have been stopped, but it was a championship fight, so you have to expect the ref to give each fighter fair opportunity to continue.
At the end of the day tony, you state you hadn;t been active enough to sustain 12 rounds of boxing, so why take the fight? As harsh as this sounds, as much as you say you have respect for the winner and so on, it just sounds to me like a bit of a rant to make us all understand why you didn't perform etc.
End of the day tony, you didn't bring it on the night, and i think it is a combination of you NOT having it in you to compete at that level any more, and the fight paul fought.
It wasn't as close as having one point in it in reality, and to be fair boxing news aren't known for their accurate scoring of fights.
I wish you well in your future tony, But i feel you need to have a sit down and consider if your future lies in british level boxing.

Let's be honest, how often do fighters come out before fights and say that inactivity may catch them out?

When do fighters come out and say anything negative pre-fight?

It's just not the done thing so to level that accusation is, I believe, unfair.

Also, how many fighter would turn down the chance at a British Title against a fighter they think they can beat?

As for not bringing it on the night, that's fair enough dependant on how you scored the fight but I think you're being a bit too critical.

[avidlemon]

Let's be honest, how often do fighters come out before fights and say that inactivity may catch them out?

When do fighters come out and say anything negative pre-fight?

It's just not the done thing so to level that accusation is, I believe, unfair.

Also, how many fighter would turn down the chance at a British Title against a fighter they think they can beat?

As for not bringing it on the night, that's fair enough dependant on how you scored the fight but I think you're being a bit too critical.

I agree he took the fight, and he should get props for that. However, it would be far more dignified for him to just say, i didn't have it on the night, no excuses etc. He had plenty of notice for the fight, granted he did not have a tune up.
IMO you can't take a 12 rounder, and then complain that because of your inactivity you couldn't perform.
I accept it was another opportunity to re gain the british, and that it would be soft not to take it, but i just don't see the point in reeling off excuses.
If it sounds too critical, then so be it, because tony was happy enough to make noises before the fight about smashing paul, being in the best shape of his life etc.

[brown bomber]

Tony I think your a class fighter, I think you've got great balance and poise for a brit. I don't think you won the fight, I had you just losing by a couple of rounds but it was a performance that proved beyond doubt that you and Paul Smith are very much in the same league.

I thought Quigley beat Paul and was very unfortunate not to get the decision despite it been a pretty terrible fight- much like yours.

Every credit to Paul Smith coming on here and fighting his corner, he's got a great attitude and that made me a bit of a fan but I sincerely feel that he lacks anything that will take him onto the next level.

Yes he's heavy handed but he is slow off the mark. He lacks world class speed and variety. It wouldn't suprise me if years of feasting on journeyman has seen him lose a little of that drive. So now that he has made it to some sort of decent platform he's calling on skills that aren't there anymore and ending up in clinch fests.

Paul, well done for becoming British champion, but you'd do a lot worse then show a little respect for Tony. There's hardly nothing between you both ability wise.

[tony@dodson]

thanks pal appreciate that

[avidlemon]

Tony I think your a class fighter, I think you've got great balance and poise for a brit. I don't think you won the fight, I had you just losing by a couple of rounds but it was a performance that proved beyond doubt that you and Paul Smith are very much in the same league.

I thought Quigley beat Paul and was very unfortunate not to get the decision despite it been a pretty terrible fight- much like yours.

Every credit to Paul Smith coming on here and fighting his corner, he's got a great attitude and that made me a bit of a fan but I sincerely feel that he lacks anything that will take him onto the next level.

Yes he's heavy handed but he is slow off the mark. He lacks world class speed and variety. It wouldn't suprise me if years of feasting on journeyman has seen him lose a little of that drive. So now that he has made it to some sort of decent platform he's calling on skills that aren't there anymore and ending up in clinch fests.

Paul, well done for becoming British champion, but you'd do a lot worse then show a little respect for Tony. There's hardly nothing between you both ability wise.

To be fair to paul the only comment he made was saying he would knock out dodson and quigley on the same night.
The mud slinging came from tony and tony's fans. Read the thread.
As regards paul going on to a higher level. well it is a question that will be answered soon enough:deal

[Grant1]

I agree he took the fight, and he should get props for that. However, it would be far more dignified for him to just say, i didn't have it on the night, no excuses etc. He had plenty of notice for the fight, granted he did not have a tune up.
IMO you can't take a 12 rounder, and then complain that because of your inactivity you couldn't perform.
I accept it was another opportunity to re gain the british, and that it would be soft not to take it, but i just don't see the point in reeling off excuses.
If it sounds too critical, then so be it, because tony was happy enough to make noises before the fight about smashing paul, being in the best shape of his life etc.

I agree with that, excuses are no good after the fight.

But to suggest he should come out pre-fight and give your opponent a psychological boost by saying your ring rusty just doesn't make sense.

[avidlemon]

I agree with that, excuses are no good after the fight.

But to suggest he should come out pre-fight and give your opponent a psychological boost by saying your ring rusty just doesn't make sense.

yeah, coming out with comments like i am not prepared properly b4 the fight is bad, i accept that. But if it is the case, and you say it after the fight, you are setting yourself up for criticism.
Got to be honest though, i am a bit sceptical that this fella is the actual tony dodson, as don't seem to be him based on previous replies from the original tony dodson.

[brown bomber]

yeah, coming out with comments like i am not prepared properly b4 the fight is bad, i accept that. But if it is the case, and you say it after the fight, you are setting yourself up for criticism.
Got to be honest though, i am a bit sceptical that this fella is the actual tony dodson, as don't seem to be him based on previous replies from the original tony dodson. Maybe it Antonio Dodson... a spanish tribute act.

[avidlemon]

Maybe it Antonio Dodson... a spanish tribute act.

interesting.

[brown bomber]

interesting.:think

[avidlemon]

funnily enough, i was stroking my chin whilst i said that, like sherlock holmes if you will

[conan666]

I agree he took the fight, and he should get props for that. However, it would be far more dignified for him to just say, i didn't have it on the night, no excuses etc. He had plenty of notice for the fight, granted he did not have a tune up.
IMO you can't take a 12 rounder, and then complain that because of your inactivity you couldn't perform.
I accept it was another opportunity to re gain the british, and that it would be soft not to take it, but i just don't see the point in reeling off excuses.
If it sounds too critical, then so be it, because tony was happy enough to make noises before the fight about smashing paul, being in the best shape of his life etc.
dodson is telling it how he see's it i dont think he sounds bitter or is making excuse's! show me the last title fight were a fighter has'nt said how he is going to win or he is in the best shape of his life! you sound like a paul smith bum boy, smith won and well done to him, you only have to look at tony's fights and his face to see how easy he cuts so a warm up was'nt a option,i am sure tony's hurting inside and does'nt need bell ends like you telling him he needs to retire!

[PaddyD1983]

Funny to see both boxers in here defending themselves against a load of keyboard warriors. Let's be honest, if this was all over a pint rather than over the internet, it would have settled itself a loooooooong time ago.

Anyways, I was one of the ones picking Dodson prior to the fight (I'm not particularly a fan of either boxer, I was neutral for this fight, just fancied Dodson to do it). I scored it a fair few rounds in Paul's favour.

I picked Quigley prior to the Smith fight, and had it scored 2 rounds in Smigga's favour on the night.

Top and bottom of it... Smigga deserves respect as a legitimate British champion. I'd like to know how many people have met Smigga who say he's this and that. I bumped into him for about 10 seconds a few weeks after the Quigley fight and he didnt seem like the type people are making him out to be. I dont profess to know the lad, but I'm not gonna start slating someone I dont know from Adam.

Similarly, Tony seems decent enough on the odd occassion I've met him (Tony - I fought on one of the white collar shows at the olympia last year, you were there - you wont remember but you seemed sound enough).

My point is, the majority of boxing fans will judge a fighter solely on what happens between the ropes.

So, with that in mind, Smigga is British champion and has done well. He's proved me wrong twice now in beating Dodson and Quigley and I hope he does it a third time by beating Magee. Because I'd rather see a Scouser with the belt than anyone else. I pick Magee to beat him, but that's not because I think Smigga is arrogant or anything else, that's just my pick based on what I've seen from both fighters.

Best of luck to both Tony and Paul in their future fights and I hope Smigga does prove me wrong again and beats Magee.

[avidlemon]

dodson is telling it how he see's it i dont think he sounds bitter or is making excuse's! show me the last title fight were a fighter has'nt said how he is going to win or he is in the best shape of his life! you sound like a paul smith bum boy, smith won and well done to him, you only have to look at tony's fights and his face to see how easy he cuts so a warm up was'nt a option,i am sure tony's hurting inside and does'nt need bell ends like you telling him he needs to retire!

oh fuck off you twat. They are the words of a man searching for excuses. End of the day, if after the fight, not having fought for twelve months was a reason for not performing, he should have had an inkling that it would be a factor before the fight, i did, and i mentioned it on here.
He didn't win, because on the nioght, he did not fight or train like a champion

[LP_1985]

dodson is telling it how he see's it i dont think he sounds bitter or is making excuse's! show me the last title fight were a fighter has'nt said how he is going to win or he is in the best shape of his life! you sound like a paul smith bum boy, smith won and well done to him, you only have to look at tony's fights and his face to see how easy he cuts so a warm up was'nt a option,i am sure tony's hurting inside and does'nt need bell ends like you telling him he needs to retire!

danny fucking williams

[avidlemon]

dodson is telling it how he see's it i dont think he sounds bitter or is making excuse's! show me the last title fight were a fighter has'nt said how he is going to win or he is in the best shape of his life! you sound like a paul smith bum boy, smith won and well done to him, you only have to look at tony's fights and his face to see how easy he cuts so a warm up was'nt a option,i am sure tony's hurting inside and does'nt need bell ends like you telling him he needs to retire!:blabla:blabla:blabla

[conan666]

:blabla:blabla:blabla
yeah yeah

[conan666]

oh fuck off you twat. They are the words of a man searching for excuses. End of the day, if after the fight, not having fought for twelve months was a reason for not performing, he should have had an inkling that it would be a factor before the fight, i did, and i mentioned it on here.
He didn't win, because on the nioght, he did not fight or train like a champion
pull your head out of paul smiths arse hole you bell end!

[s23041983]

lets just get a few things straight here,i wasnt the one who started all the bad comments about me and paul,
it was his remarks at how he would knock me and tony quigley out in the same night {which he didnt do} that started all this,
as for winning convincingly?the boxing news had him winning by one round,
which if i hadnt got a point taken away it would have been a draw but hey look i didnt deserve the decision i dont want
anyone to think that iam being a sour loser iam far from it paul was and is the champion,he forced the pace and was the agresser,
i had a game plan and for the 1st time in my life i actually stuck to it and that was to box and move not get drawn in to a brawl.
Lets get some facts straight i havent been active enough to sustain a full 12 rounds like i did against quigley i was in the best shape
i have ever been in for the fight with paul but lets put it like this,if we took wayne rooney off the pitch now in the form he is in and
didnt let him kick a football for 12 months then do you honestly think that he would come bk on play a full 90 mins and be in the form
he is currently in now ?Dont think so guys LISTEN this isnt an excuse this is just a fact a busy fighter is a better fighter its that simple.
So I won, convincingly, was too strong for him, too durable, too fit and too brave. The warrior showed no heart and didn't want to win.
Had his own heart broke when he didn't hurt me with his best shot in the 6th round and was desperate for the fight to end on cuts. - Simple "guys"
?What the hell is all that about HE BROKE MY HEART ?bollocks he done nothing at all but give me confidence that i do still have the tools to do
things at british title level,lets not forget you are ranked 4 in the world by the W.B.O and have been busy getting rounds in which i carnt knock you for
but fact is a busy fighter is a better fight as i have said look the fight should have been stopped on them cuts ive been stopped for a lot less,
but fair play to you paul you stuck in there didnt panic and i give you credit for that,as for hitting you with my best shot in the 6th?
Dont know why you think that was my best shot i just caught you as you was walking in with your head down as you do,but look at the end of the day he won its that simple and good luck to him in the future.As for not deserveing respect as you have written i like to think ive done enough in my time as a fighter to have earned that
from the people that matter good luck to you in the future paul and thanks to all the fans that came and supported on both sides.PS sorry it took so long for reply to these threads as i had to make another account as i forgot my password and they didnt send me an email to reset but hay better late than never .cheers Tony Dodson
doesnt matter now anyway!

good luck in the future tony and whatever you choose to do, thanks for representing liverpool all those years :hi:

[s23041983]

Funny to see both boxers in here defending themselves against a load of keyboard warriors. Let's be honest, if this was all over a pint rather than over the internet, it would have settled itself a loooooooong time ago.

Anyways, I was one of the ones picking Dodson prior to the fight (I'm not particularly a fan of either boxer, I was neutral for this fight, just fancied Dodson to do it). I scored it a fair few rounds in Paul's favour.

I picked Quigley prior to the Smith fight, and had it scored 2 rounds in Smigga's favour on the night.

Top and bottom of it... Smigga deserves respect as a legitimate British champion. I'd like to know how many people have met Smigga who say he's this and that. I bumped into him for about 10 seconds a few weeks after the Quigley fight and he didnt seem like the type people are making him out to be. I dont profess to know the lad, but I'm not gonna start slating someone I dont know from Adam.

Similarly, Tony seems decent enough on the odd occassion I've met him (Tony - I fought on one of the white collar shows at the olympia last year, you were there - you wont remember but you seemed sound enough).

My point is, the majority of boxing fans will judge a fighter solely on what happens between the ropes.

So, with that in mind, Smigga is British champion and has done well. He's proved me wrong twice now in beating Dodson and Quigley and I hope he does it a third time by beating Magee. Because I'd rather see a Scouser with the belt than anyone else. I pick Magee to beat him, but that's not because I think Smigga is arrogant or anything else, that's just my pick based on what I've seen from both fighters.

Best of luck to both Tony and Paul in their future fights and I hope Smigga does prove me wrong again and beats Magee.
exactly. i see why smigga doesnt like coming on here now and i feel like a tit to be honest :!:

[avidlemon]

pull your head out of paul smiths arse hole you bell end!


what is your problem pal? The cooment about head up his arse came out of no where, i just think dodson is making excuses.
Wonder how many posts you will have in a month once you get bored of psoting on this thread, cock flaps

[smigga]

Getting a bit boring this argument now....

Tony, Boxing News don't score British title fights sorry mate. 3 ringside BBBoC judges do. The closest score out of them was by 3 points. So minus the deduction you'd have still lost by 2, 3 and 4 points respectively. Bottom line is you did not win or deserve to win the fight. You didn't want it enough or work hard enough to win.

The respect comment was bang on the money. It is earned. I lost all respect for you before the fight for the way you behaved, and sharing a ring with you naturally I regained some for you.

But these comments now are sour grapes. I didn't gloat, and I could have.
I was in for a hiding from a proper super middle, getting beat 10 times out of 10 by a massive punching full blown super middle - aka The Daddy.
The inactivity shouts are disrespectful to me and my win.... Simple as.

Sticking to a game-plan means nothing if you lose. Mine went out the window when your head opened up a gash on my left eye in the first round.

And for your information, I said I'd beat the two of you on the same night. NOT knock you both out. I have the radio interview here if anyone needs clarification. ;)

[conan666]

what is your problem pal? The cooment about head up his arse came out of no where, i just think dodson is making excuses.
Wonder how many posts you will have in a month once you get bored of psoting on this thread, cock flaps
cock flaps?????

[tony@dodson]

Like I said iam man enough to say u won the fight fair and square I was just pointing out a few facts as u like to put it .It's all in the past now smigg so genuinly lad good luck to you .

[smigga]

Like I said iam man enough to say u won the fight fair and square I was just pointing out a few facts as u like to put it .It's all in the past now smigg so genuinly lad good luck to you .
Thank you. Same to you

[cheekyvid]

good stuff all round.

[avidlemon]

Thank you. Same to you

Like I said iam man enough to say u won the fight fair and square I was just pointing out a few facts as u like to put it .It's all in the past now smigg so genuinly lad good luck to you .

Nice to see a bit of mutual respect there, but you are right smigga, the argument has run its course.

[diggler]

well said smigga

[Winderupper]

oh fuck off you twat. They are the words of a man searching for excuses. End of the day, if after the fight, not having fought for twelve months was a reason for not performing, he should have had an inkling that it would be a factor before the fight, i did, and i mentioned it on here.
He didn't win, because on the nioght, he did not fight or train like a champion
avid you are a twat, show no respect : get none , we have had our banter but you have took the piss mate :hammertime:hammertimetony has had his say after the fight and been a man and said he lost and was beating and he posted on here and said that himself , listen you twat he went in the ring and was ready to give up his life to defeat paul smith and you question him you cheecky twat , i have never shown direspect to a boxer ( banter yes ) but you __whats your job (social worker ) you prick

[Winderupper]

you want to talk shite bring it on , but dont insult me ,

[achillesthegreat]

See what ESB can do. Bring fighters together and make the world a happier place.

Smith and Dodson, make sure you keep returning.

To the bloke who said if this is was over a pint, the argument would have died out a LONG TIME ago. I must say he is very right. Those Liverpudlians love a scrap so lets keep the talk online.

[avidlemon]

avid you are a twat, show no respect : get none , we have had our banter but you have took the piss mate :hammertime:hammertimetony has had his say after the fight and been a man and said he lost and was beating and he posted on here and said that himself , listen you twat he went in the ring and was ready to give up his life to defeat paul smith and you question him you cheecky twat , i have never shown direspect to a boxer ( banter yes ) but you __whats your job (social worker ) you prick

i didn't show disrespect, just an opinion. Quite uncalled for what you have said i think.
what has my job got to do with it, and were you pissed when you wrote this?

[LP_1985]

avid you are a twat, show no respect : get none , we have had our banter but you have took the piss mate :hammertime:hammertimetony has had his say after the fight and been a man and said he lost and was beating and he posted on here and said that himself , listen you twat he went in the ring and was ready to give up his life to defeat paul smith and you question him you cheecky twat , i have never shown direspect to a boxer ( banter yes ) but you __whats your job (social worker ) you prick

:lol::lol::lol:

buncey wud be proud of that rant

[avidlemon]

:lol::lol::lol:

buncey wud be proud of that rant

i just dont get why he put the mc hammer thing into it. quite random really:huh

[saturday_kid]

I think at the end of the day both fighters should be respected a lot, lets knock the argument on the head now.

No one should be knocked for being a social worker either though, a good social worker can save a kids life in more than one way. Know what you were saying though I dont think any of us on these boards should knock ANY boxers that step into the ropes at any level, especially (as with these) the very highest level domestically Loved the MC Hammer stuff though haha.

Anyway any of you scouse lot know where I can catch the Haye fight this Saturday as i'm up your way haha.

[avidlemon]

I think at the end of the day both fighters should be respected a lot, lets knock the argument on the head now.

No one should be knocked for being a social worker either though, a good social worker can save a kids life in more than one way. Know what you were saying though I dont think any of us on these boards should knock ANY boxers that step into the ropes at any level, especially (as with these) the very highest level domestically Loved the MC Hammer stuff though haha.

Anyway any of you scouse lot know where I can catch the Haye fight this Saturday as i'm up your way haha.

I knocked tony after the fight because of what he said in terms of being out of the ring for 12 months etc. He had 4 months plus notice for the fight, and was apparantely in the best shape of his life.
End of the day i respect any one getting ito the ring and throwing leather, brave brave people to do it IMO.
I also respect tony and smigga both coming on here, defending their corners, and ultimately giving each other respect. But you can't expect on a forum for people to not pick up on things fighters say and do. I just gave an opinion that i felt tony should maybe not have said anything about not having fought for 12 months. He knew that when he signed to fight.
If that was a deciding factor, then fine, but to me it shows a level of disrespect to his opponent.
ut on the otherside of the coin, he still got into the ring knowing that fact also. So ultimately i DO respect him for fighting, but not for using it as an excuse after the fight.
By the way, loving how i have become a social worker all of a sudden!!! Am thinking about a career change soon though....

[LP_1985]

i just dont get why he put the mc hammer thing into it. quite random really:huh

no i dont either.:?

[hit me HARDER]

Anyway any of you scouse lot know where I can catch the Haye fight this Saturday as i'm up your way haha.

Most Boozers mate. I'll be in The Falstaff :good