View Full Version : Anthony Mundine v Kelly Pavlik. Who Wins?
I wouldn't post this in the general because I have no doubt who would get the over whelming vote, with Pavlik nuthugging at an all time high. But who do you guys think wins this? Pavlik, shares a lot of similarities with Danny Green IMO. Both fight fairly conventionally, both power punchers, but Pavlik with more tenacity. Can a focused and hungry Mundine pull this off?
Marcus
10-03-2007, 11:33 PM
mmmm i doubt Mundine could stand up to Pavliks power. Taylor is fast and moves very well, but Pavlik caught him with many punches.
Pavlik KO 9
mmmm i doubt Mundine could stand up to Pavliks power. Taylor is fast and moves very well, but Pavlik caught him with many punches.
Pavlik KO 9
Mundine is FAR superior to Taylor defensively though....
Kegsy
10-03-2007, 11:39 PM
Pavlik by KO IMO as well.
Similar round stoppage to what Marcus said. Pavlik KO Round 8.
Marcus
10-03-2007, 11:42 PM
Mundine is FAR superior to Taylor defensively though....
Far superior??? What are you a Mundine nuthugger now or something :lol: :lol:
Remember mate, you picked Taylor, and he WAS the best middle in the world. Pavlik deserves the cred he is getting.
I thought i read you didnt see the fight? Have you watched Taylor vs Pavlik? Were you not impressed?
stiflers mum
10-03-2007, 11:49 PM
Mundine is FAR superior to Taylor defensively though....
choc would give him a boxing lesson for 6 rounds but pavliks won me over.pavlik between 9-12th round k.o and well behind on the scorecards at the time.
Far superior??? What are you a Mundine nuthugger now or something :lol: :lol:
Remember mate, you picked Taylor, and he WAS the best middle in the world. Pavlik deserves the cred he is getting.
I thought i read you didnt see the fight? Have you watched Taylor vs Pavlik? Were you not impressed?
I didn't say I was picking Mundine anywhere did I? I just pointed out that Mundine is FAR superior to Taylor in terms of defense, which he is. As for picking Taylor, I said it was going to be a very close fight, and that if Taylor could box against Pavlik he would win. He chose to trade and got KTFO. I never said it was an easy pick, in fact, quite the opposite.
choc would give him a boxing lesson for 6 rounds but pavliks won me over.pavlik between 9-12th round k.o and well behind on the scorecards at the time.
Fair enough. I have Pavlik winning this also, but I think Choc would be a live under dog. In the end, I think the work rate of Pavlik wins this, although Choc can be very elusive, and would be a much togher fight for Pavlik then most expect.
Dr Gonzo
10-03-2007, 11:52 PM
I would go for Pavlik on points, i think it would go alot like Mundine v Kessler did
JustinD
10-03-2007, 11:53 PM
Mundine wouldn't get caught with the right hand like Taylor did, but Pavilk might outwork him thats for sure. If Mundine dosn't turn up gun shy(big if) he has every chance.
Marcus
10-04-2007, 12:05 AM
I didn't say I was picking Mundine anywhere did I? I just pointed out that Mundine is FAR superior to Taylor in terms of defense, which he is. As for picking Taylor, I said it was going to be a very close fight, and that if Taylor could box against Pavlik he would win. He chose to trade and got KTFO. I never said it was an easy pick, in fact, quite the opposite.
And i didnt say you did say you were pickin Mundine either.
Didnt you pick a UD for Taylor? Thats not close.
Are we talking bout Mundine Pre-eye-injury?
If so Id say Mundine will win. And thats not because im a mundine fan but on a purely logical basis.
Firstly Pavlik is slightly Overrated.
Mundine is 1 weight division above and slightly taller. He is much more composed (at least lately he has been) both offensively and defensively and has the edge there on pavlik. Pavlik might get fired up and leave himself open.
Cmon Pavlik has only beaten 1 or 2 somebody's (not saying Mundine has anything better on his resume) so to say that he will go up and beat a top 3 of the next weight division is a bit far fetched.
Marcus
10-04-2007, 12:26 AM
Are we talking bout Mundine Pre-eye-injury?
If so Id say Mundine will win. And thats not because im a mundine fan but on a purely logical basis.
Firstly Pavlik is slightly Overrated.
Mundine is 1 weight division above and slightly taller. He is much more composed (at least lately he has been) both offensively and defensively and has the edge there on pavlik. Pavlik might get fired up and leave himself open.
Cmon Pavlik has only beaten 1 or 2 somebody's (not saying Mundine has anything better on his resume) so to say that he will go up and beat a top 3 of the next weight division is a bit far fetched.
Pavlik would be at least 5cm taller than Choc Hmm.
Maybe he would, but i think he is a good boxer and doesnt drop his hands low. I think he blocked a lot of Taylors punches with his gloves...and iv watched the fight 5 times now :roll:
And i didnt say you did say you were pickin Mundine either.
Didnt you pick a UD for Taylor? Thats not close.
Yes it is. UD simply means he wins by unanimous decision, meaning that all the judges have him winning the fight. It has nothing AT ALL to do with the margin. I said in my posts it was going to be very close plenty of times. Its ridiculous to pick SD because all you are doing is prediciting inconsistency in the judging.
Look we all know which nuts i love to rub, but come on...Mundines defence and movement would befuddle the shit out of Pavlik who is hardly has the greatest offence. Pavlik is the new flavour of the month which is cool but I have doubts he is even going to win the remtach with Taylor. The skill diff between the 2 was very noticable.
Old Man Mosley KO Cotto.
Marcus
10-04-2007, 12:32 AM
Yes it is. UD simply means he wins by unanimous decision, meaning that all the judges have him winning the fight. It has nothing AT ALL to do with the margin. I said in my posts it was going to be very close plenty of times. Its ridiculous to pick SD because all you are doing is prediciting inconsistency in the judging.
I know what UD means dick.
Marcus vs MSTR is back on!!! :vonnecunt
Look we all know which nuts i love to rub, but come on...Mundines defence and movement would befuddle the shit out of Pavlik who is hardly has the greatest offence. Pavlik is the new flavour of the month which is cool but I have doubts he is even going to win the remtach with Taylor. The skill diff between the 2 was very noticable.
Old Man Mosley KO Cotto.
Fuck off Cunt!
I said in my posts it was going to be very close plenty of times. Its ridiculous to pick SD because all you are doing is prediciting inconsistency in the judging.Yeah i dont understand how ppl pick SD, it's basically saying flip a coin
I know what UD means dick.
Marcus vs MSTR is back on!!! :vonnecunt
LMAO... then why did you say that in your post for?
:hey
This is going to become the Miguel Cotto forum once he spanks that old man into retirement. I'm going make you eat every single word! BTW who do you have picked for Kessler vs Calzaghe?
Kegsy
10-04-2007, 12:35 AM
Pavlik KO Mundine
Cotto KO Mosley :hey
Marcus
10-04-2007, 12:35 AM
LMAO... then why did you say that in your post for?
I dont know :nut look im kinda half right anyway :yep
Kegsy
10-04-2007, 12:36 AM
Kessler UD Calzaghe
I dont know :nut look im kinda half right anyway :yep
Whatever makes you sleep at night mate hahaha.
Marcus
10-04-2007, 12:37 AM
Kessler SD Calslappy :lol: :lol: :lol:
pecks
10-04-2007, 12:38 AM
Mundine UD imo.
The only worry I'd be having is if Pavlik hurt him early and made Mundine tentative for the remainder of the fight. But I think Mundine's better than that now, and I think he'd pull off a UD win.
JustinD
10-04-2007, 12:39 AM
Are we talking bout Mundine Pre-eye-injury?
If so Id say Mundine will win. And thats not because im a mundine fan but on a purely logical basis.
Firstly Pavlik is slightly Overrated.
Mundine is 1 weight division above and slightly taller. He is much more composed (at least lately he has been) both offensively and defensively and has the edge there on pavlik. Pavlik might get fired up and leave himself open.
Cmon Pavlik has only beaten 1 or 2 somebody's (not saying Mundine has anything better on his resume) so to say that he will go up and beat a top 3 of the next weight division is a bit far fetched.
Pavlik is 6′ 2½, Mundine is about 5' 11...
Kessler UD Calzaghe
Big Call. I am going to have to take JC, although this fight is going to be very close. I can't wait.
This is going to become the Miguel Cotto forum once he spanks that old man into retirement. I'm going make you eat every single word! BTW who do you have picked for Kessler vs Calzaghe?I dont know, i can see how both can win.
Who am i going for? JC i think, fark i dont know.
It's one of the main fights i have been waiting for this year, that and the Mayorga v Vargas fight which is no go no more :-(
Kegsy
10-04-2007, 12:44 AM
Big Call. I am going to have to take JC, although this fight is going to be very close. I can't wait.
Yeah i know its a tough ask.
I have thought about it long & hard.
I reckon Kessler will pull it off. Wont be easy tho, guarantee that.:deal
We can all agree on one thing - Teke, Stiflers Mum and Pecks will feast on the losing fans for a good month afterwards :yep:yep:yep
Shit Stirring here we come :deal:deal:deal
pecks
10-04-2007, 12:48 AM
We can all agree on one thing - Teke, Stiflers Mum and Pecks will feast on the losing fans for a good month afterwards :yep:yep:yep
Shit Stirring here we come :deal:deal:deal:lol:
It's just a shame that we won't be able to watch this fight on tv. Looks as thought we'll be relying on *******.
Poor form Main Event. :-(
oops thought i remember seeing pavlik as 5'10, must've been someone else
Dekkers
10-04-2007, 01:12 AM
Look we all know which nuts i love to rub, but come on...Mundines defence and movement would befuddle the shit out of Pavlik who is hardly has the greatest offence. Pavlik is the new flavour of the month which is cool but I have doubts he is even going to win the remtach with Taylor. The skill diff between the 2 was very noticable.
Old Man Mosley KO Cotto.
I'm going to back Teke up for once, the only things Taylor does better than Mundine imo is that he puts his hands together more quickly, slightly better chin and on his last fight a little more willing to trade.
Mundine has better defence, stamina, hits harder, footwork's a bit more organised and can take a good shot to the body. If Taylors stamina and/or punch were a bit better he could've taken that fight.
I'll take Mundine by decsion, don't think he'll push for the finish in this one, he's a bit more conservative against strong/big hitters.
I'm going to back Teke up for once, the only things Taylor does better than Mundine imo is that he puts his hands together more quickly, slightly better chin and on his last fight a little more willing to trade.
Mundine has better defence, stamina, hits harder, footwork's a bit more organised and can take a good shot to the body. If Taylors stamina and/or punch were a bit better he could've taken that fight.
I'll take Mundine by decsion, don't think he'll push for the finish in this one, he's a bit more conservative against strong/big hitters.
thats kinda along wot i was thinking.
Cant see him getting a KO victory.
Marcus
10-04-2007, 01:17 AM
I know Mundine is mega fit, but how can you say that when he throws half as many punches as Pavlik does per round.
And you say he hits harder than Pavlik?? are you on drugs???
JustinD
10-04-2007, 01:20 AM
thats kinda along wot i was thinking.
Cant see him getting a KO victory.
Well Taylor almost stopped him and Mundine is a bigger puncher than Jermaine, but he would probably be happy to Jab his way to victory.
I think he would better off fighting him the same way he fought Green though.
JustinD
10-04-2007, 01:22 AM
I know Mundine is mega fit, but how can you say that when he throws half as many punches as Pavlik does per round.
And you say he hits harder than Pavlik?? are you on drugs???
He ment Taylor, not Pavlik.
Dekkers
10-04-2007, 01:24 AM
I know Mundine is mega fit, but how can you say that when he throws half as many punches as Pavlik does per round.
And you say he hits harder than Pavlik?? are you on drugs???
Hits harder than TAYLOR not Pavlik, I was comparing him to Taylor, not that Pavliks power is especially monstrous (he's no G-man, unlike 20% of the retards in the general forum who think he hits harder), I suspect Andy Lee (comp is limited, but he shows very solid technique, disposes of that sort of comp in much the same fashion as Pavlik did, he's a little more balanced and upright than Pavlik) and Abraham both hit harder at middleweight.
stiflers mum
10-04-2007, 01:24 AM
We can all agree on one thing - Teke, Stiflers Mum and Pecks will feast on the losing fans for a good month afterwards :yep:yep:yep
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Marcus
10-04-2007, 01:27 AM
Ok,
I guess i could agree if he boxed like he did against Green he might have a chance, na fuck that. Pavlik KO Mundine 9
I think both Calzaghe and Kessler wld beat Pavlik.
However the question about Mundine is difficult to answer...... If the Anthony Mundine who turned up against Danny Green appears in front of Pavlik, than i feel he takes the win. But if the Mundine who fought Siaca turns up than it's a Pavlik KO for sure.
pecks
10-04-2007, 01:48 AM
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lefty
10-04-2007, 02:23 AM
Well Taylor almost stopped him and Mundine is a bigger puncher than Jermaine, but he would probably be happy to Jab his way to victory.
Based on what? Taylor is a massive middleweight and would dwarf mundine if they both were in the ring. Who has Mundine ever knocked out who wasn't a complete bum?
Based on what? Taylor is a massive middleweight and would dwarf mundine if they both were in the ring. Who has Mundine ever knocked out who wasn't a complete bum?
Sam Soliman
Hits harder than TAYLOR not Pavlik, I was comparing him to Taylor, not that Pavliks power is especially monstrous (he's no G-man, unlike 20% of the retards in the general forum who think he hits harder), I suspect Andy Lee (comp is limited, but he shows very solid technique, disposes of that sort of comp in much the same fashion as Pavlik did, he's a little more balanced and upright than Pavlik) and Abraham both hit harder at middleweight.
Good post, the only thing i don't agree with is that AA does not have the power that Pavlik does.
Dekkers
10-04-2007, 02:33 AM
Good post, the only thing i don't agree with is that AA does not have the power that Pavlik does.
Pavlik has the bigger right hand, AA the bigger left hook, personally though I think there a bit more in AAs' hook than Pavs' right hand.
Dekkers
10-04-2007, 02:36 AM
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BoppaZoo
10-04-2007, 02:47 AM
You know what Danny Green has more Power than this guy Pavlik that the Yanks think is there new savour.
Anyone like ive said with skills and not willing to go toe to toe with Pavlik will beat him.
Mundine would win this aslong as he used his jab like against Danny and stayed to the outside.
Pavliks defense is non existent about 2.30 min of every round ive seen him.
MUNDINE UD.
Read and weap Pavlik fans.
You know what Danny Green has more Power than this guy Pavlik that the Yanks think is there new savour.
Anyone like ive said with skills and not willing to go toe to toe with Pavlik will beat him.
Mundine would win this aslong as he used his jab like against Danny and stayed to the outside.
Pavliks defense is non existent about 2.30 min of every round ive seen him.
MUNDINE UD.
Read and weap Pavlik fans.
hahaha well said Bop Bop!!!
But if the Mundine who fought Siaca turns up than it's a Pavlik KO for sure.That mundine is never gonna appear again.
PorkChopExpress
10-04-2007, 03:28 AM
I'd pick Pavlik by UD or SD. Mundine would run the entire fight and Pavlik would win on aggression and pressing the fight, if he didn't catch Mundine who didn't do enough for the win.
Pavlik is being overrated at the moment too. Beating an overrated Taylor on the ass end of his carreer isn't reason enough to P4P the guy yet. Pavliks offence is powerful, but it's too slow and telegraphed giving Mundine a good chance to avoid him all night. If Mundine finds a comfortable way inside Pavliks range he may well get a UD himself
BoppaZoo
10-04-2007, 03:33 AM
I'd pick Pavlik by UD or SD. Mundine would run the entire fight and Pavlik would win on aggression and pressing the fight, if he didn't catch Mundine who didn't do enough for the win.
Pavlik is being overrated at the moment too. Beating an overrated Taylor on the ass end of his carreer isn't reason enough to P4P the guy yet. Pavliks offence is powerful, but it's too slow and telegraphed giving Mundine a good chance to avoid him all night. If Mundine finds a comfortable way inside Pavliks range he may well get a UD himselfWell said Pork Chop but like ive said anyone with skills could easily outbox Pavlik.
Mundine could run all night and win still because ho many times have we seen PBF or Spinks take this tactic.
Plus i feel if Pavlik got it in his head to be aggressive against Mundine Choc could just chip away at him like he did to Green.
Mundine has great defense aswell and Pavlik is way to slow to stop getting hit by Mundine super fast jab all night which could frusrtate him and cause him to do something stupid.
I would favour Mundine as i would favour anyone with Slick skills and great defense against Pavlik because like you said to many telegraphed punch's and way to slow. And Pavliks defense is poor at best.
CarltonBlues
10-04-2007, 04:11 AM
Mundine would whoop him. Pavlik is just bullying middleweights at the moment. His bubble was nearly burst on the weekend with Taylor's speed giving him real problems. Mundine is faster, stronger and way better defensively than Taylor.
boxa01
10-04-2007, 04:31 AM
mundine wins on points never hurts pavlik and pavlik doesnt land much on choc chocs skill is far superior pavlik wont be champ for long
PorkChopExpress
10-04-2007, 05:19 AM
Yeah thats all true Boppa, but at the moment Pavlik has come out and done what it takes to win everytime and Mundine hasn't - thats why i initially would go with the Pavlik win... its not cuz Pavlik is so good, it's because you never know which Mundine is going to turn up to a fight
Super_Fly_Sam
10-04-2007, 05:54 AM
I'd back choc to beat kelly as long as he comes into the fight in top condition eye wise and not gun shy...
Kelly clearly has the power to take mundine out but i reckon Choc could out box him as long as he keeps his work rate up and pops his jab and throughs combos all night
Super_Fly_Sam
10-04-2007, 05:59 AM
Well said Pork Chop but like ive said anyone with skills could easily outbox Pavlik.
Mundine could run all night and win still because ho many times have we seen PBF or Spinks take this tactic.
Plus i feel if Pavlik got it in his head to be aggressive against Mundine Choc could just chip away at him like he did to Green.
Mundine has great defense aswell and Pavlik is way to slow to stop getting hit by Mundine super fast jab all night which could frusrtate him and cause him to do something stupid.
I would favour Mundine as i would favour anyone with Slick skills and great defense against Pavlik because like you said to many telegraphed punch's and way to slow. And Pavliks defense is poor at best.]
If the fight was in Australia he would have no worries about not gettin a decision coz of running as long as he still does some work..
but i doubt that Mundine would have the power to get the fight here if it ever did happen
madpup
10-04-2007, 09:43 AM
To everyone who is backing Mundine....which world class boxer has Mundine beat for you to be so certain of a win against Pavlik?
pecks
10-04-2007, 05:05 PM
To everyone who is backing Mundine....which world class boxer has Mundine beat for you to be so certain of a win against Pavlik?I base my prediction not on fighters' resume, but fighters skills/attributes.
EelsRule
10-04-2007, 06:25 PM
It will be different for Pavlik in the future now that he is the favourite. Everyone he fights will be preparing for his style, weaknesses will be discovered. It seemed to me that Taylor was complacent in this fight. Every time he threw combinations Taylor staggard Pavlova. Idoubt Taylor perpared intelligently. Taylor should move up a division and get beaten by some of the bigger guys. I think his career is over as his heart has been exposed.
Marcus
10-04-2007, 07:22 PM
It will be different for Pavlik in the future now that he is the favourite. Everyone he fights will be preparing for his style, weaknesses will be discovered. It seemed to me that Taylor was complacent in this fight. Every time he threw combinations Taylor staggard Pavlova. Idoubt Taylor perpared intelligently. Taylor should move up a division and get beaten by some of the bigger guys. I think his career is over as his heart has been exposed.
As Pavliks trainers said, when you are touched on the chin by Kelly, you change your plan.
I dont think Taylor staggard Pavlik except in the 2nd.
I think Taylor was hurt in the first, and he even held on to Pavlik at the end of the second.
Taylors seams unsure of himself now, i dont know why but it has to be fixed asap.
Lead Right
10-04-2007, 09:20 PM
Echols No2
Green No5
Soliman No6 (Middleweight)To everyone who is backing Mundine....which world class boxer has Mundine beat for you to be so certain of a win against Pavlik?
Dekkers
10-04-2007, 09:34 PM
I base my prediction not on fighters' resume, but fighters skills/attributes.
That said Pavlik isn't exactly miles better than Green, Pavlik is more fluid in attack (little less stiff, puts the hands together better and throws more shots) but not as tough.
one in a million
10-04-2007, 11:21 PM
That said Pavlik isn't exactly miles better than Green, Pavlik is more fluid in attack (little less stiff, puts the hands together better and throws more shots) but not as tough.
Each boxer has his own style that works for them, do they get stuck with one style. Green has been called a robot, stiff and needs oil...oil him up then! I would love to see Danny at the top :bbb
That said Pavlik isn't exactly miles better than Green, Pavlik is more fluid in attack (little less stiff, puts the hands together better and throws more shots) but not as tough.I was gonna post exactly what Pecks said but couldnt be fucked as that question is raised all the time.
EelsRule
10-05-2007, 01:50 AM
Sorry?!?! you recon Pavlik is not as tough as Green? Tell me I am reading that incorrectly and need English lessons!!!!!
Pavlik is miles ahead of Green in every department (except surfing)...especially toughness.
EelsRule
10-05-2007, 01:57 AM
Fuck me, I cant let this go. Where on earth could you get this "logic" that Danny Green is tougher than Pavlik ??? What evidence is there for this? This can only be viewed as serious Green hugging at its most exaggerated.
Green could not respond to the punches of Anthony Mundine a domestic level fighter. Pavlik comes back from serious trouble at the hands of a p4p top tenner and digs his way back to a comprehensive victory. Goes toe to toe with Edison Miranda but doesnt have Green toughness.
That is spew. You have just spewed onto the keyboard and it has made its way onto this forum. It is so bad it should be edited and you should be band for a month...
stiflers mum
10-05-2007, 02:00 AM
Fuck me, I cant let this go. Where on earth could you get this "logic" that Danny Green is tougher than Pavlik ??? What evidence is there for this? This can only be viewed as serious Green hugging at its most exaggerated.
Green could not respond to the punches of Anthony Mundine a domestic level fighter. Pavlik comes back from serious trouble at the hands of a p4p top tenner and digs his way back to a comprehensive victory. Goes toe to toe with Edison Miranda but doesnt have Green toughness.
That is spew. You have just spewed onto the keyboard and it has made its way onto this forum. It is so bad it should be edited and you should be band for a month...
calm down buddy:lol:
JustinD
10-05-2007, 02:03 AM
Based on what? Taylor is a massive middleweight and would dwarf mundine if they both were in the ring. Who has Mundine ever knocked out who wasn't a complete bum?
He stopped Soliman and Sam had never even been close to being knocked out before, are you saying he's a bum? He has 22 ko's in 29 wins, Taylor has 17 in 27 at a lighter division. You can't deny Mundine has a fair amount of pop in his punches.
Bumdine does have a great defense, but hes really only developed it as a response to his terrible chin. It'd definitely be a decent fight to watch, but tbh Id easily favour Pavlik to take it. Comparing Pavlik to Greene is a bit mean though!
thats the only thing ur right about kessler beating calzaghe
mundine ud over pavlik
and mosley wins a ud over cotto
i was wrong i thought taylor would beat pavlik which he was till he got caught and if they fight again i'll pick taylor again.
Wrong on 3 counts.
calm down buddy:lol:
hahaha... Eels rule should have been on Revenge of the Nerds!
Dekkers
10-05-2007, 02:46 AM
hahaha... Eels rule should have been on Revenge of the Nerds!
:lol:
P.S, Green is tougher than Pavlik Eels, you can bet your arse Taylor wouldn't put Green on Queer street :smoke (he's a bloody lightheavy).
Wrong on 3 counts.He is right on all 3
EelsRule
10-05-2007, 03:34 AM
Dekkers, your weird. Mundine near finished Green, some dude whose name escapes everyone put Green on his arse. Green has some ticker, but I've never seen him respond to adversity. Ever. Pavlik amazed everyone with his comeback the other day. It is obsurd to even compare him to Green.
pecks
10-05-2007, 03:36 AM
None of them are tougher than these two...
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stiflers mum
10-05-2007, 04:04 AM
hurts me to say it as i like danny but KP's response to being in trouble beats danny hands down IMO.I agree with eelsrules.
madpup
10-05-2007, 04:07 AM
Echols No2
Green No5
Soliman No6 (Middleweight)
Is that a joke?
Those guys are good boxers, but they are not world class, not even close.
One come from behind win and Pavlik is top of the world, lets just wait and see how he goes in his future fights before we go calling him the truth.
stiflers mum
10-05-2007, 04:18 AM
One come from behind win and Pavlik is top of the world, lets just wait and see how he goes in his future fights before we go calling him the truth.
it was very impressive.
it was very impressive.I didnt think so
Parra Power
10-05-2007, 04:22 AM
pavlik would belt the shit out of the this blind cunt! it wouldnt even be close!
mundine will probably not even fight again, and sucked in to the prick. what a retard! cleaning his contact lens with his dirty tongue. :lol::lol::lol:
Dekkers
10-05-2007, 04:32 AM
Dekkers, your weird. Mundine near finished Green, some dude whose name escapes everyone put Green on his arse. Green has some ticker, but I've never seen him respond to adversity. Ever. Pavlik amazed everyone with his comeback the other day. It is obsurd to even compare him to Green.
People seem to forget how close to being finished Pavlik was, if Taylor had a slightly better punch, or was a slightly better finisher we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Danny Green is harder to hurt than Pavlik, i've got no doubt about that, I also doubt that Pavlik will still be middleweight champ in 24 months. Pavlik has the worst nuthuggers i've seen in ages, not since Wlad and Lacy have I seen nuthuggery on such a massive scale.
People seem to forget how close to being finished Pavlik was, if Taylor had a slightly better punch, or was a slightly better finisher we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Danny Green is harder to hurt than Pavlik, i've got no doubt about that, I also doubt that Pavlik will still be middleweight champ in 24 months. Pavlik has the worst nuthuggers i've seen in ages, not since Wlad and Lacy have I seen nuthuggery on such a massive scale.That's exactly why i dont think it was impressive, he was almost gone - when watching the fight i thought dam the ref should stop this. Afterwards he was getting whacked and outskilled everytime Taylor went for it. Taylor got caught by a good punch and it was over.
CarltonBlues
10-05-2007, 04:40 AM
Some refs would have waved the fight off when Pavlik was getting pummeled in round 2. Pavlik is a good brawler but an elite boxer at the higher weight class like Calzaghe, Kessler, Mundine or Bute would beat him easily.
Dekkers
10-05-2007, 04:42 AM
That's exactly why i dont think it was impressive, he was almost gone - when watching the fight i thought dam the ref should stop this. Afterwards he was getting whacked and outskilled everytime Taylor went for it. Taylor got caught by a good punch and it was over.
You'd think I'd be talking up Pavlik since I picked him to win, but at the end of the day I got lucky with that pick, I recognise it, it's as simple as that.
I thought Taylor would win easy until i saw the Countdown show on them and said hangon Pavlik is tough and hungry and could upset.
Anyway who changed the topic All Blacks KO France to Pavlik anyway :huh
Dekkers
10-05-2007, 04:55 AM
I thought Taylor would win easy until i saw the Countdown show on them and said hangon Pavlik is tough and hungry and could upset.
Anyway who changed the topic All Blacks KO France to Pavlik anyway :huh
Doesn't matter, even if they get by Australia, Los Pumas will finish them off, hell, i'll even avatar bet you on it :smoke
stiflers mum
10-05-2007, 04:56 AM
I thought Taylor would win easy until i saw the Countdown show on them and said hangon Pavlik is tough and hungry and could upset.
Anyway who changed the topic All Blacks KO France to Pavlik anyway :huh
not long now:yep
All Blacks will only choke is they get beaten by anyone other than Sth Africa.
Now fuckoff and stop making me nervous :?:?
ashley
10-05-2007, 06:47 AM
Any one-eyed Mundine supporter would know that Pavlik would get ko'ed by Mundine
Mundine has typically fought quite tentatively against punchers who can walk him down. The inept Siaca had his way with this strategy, and Kessler did the same, just better. Danny Green won a couple rounds as well, though Choc did show great improvement.
I give Pavlik about a 60% chance for a KO and give Mundine a 40% for a very close points win. Would definitely be an interesting fight to watch.
dwilson
10-05-2007, 02:17 PM
Mundine would struggle to get to the second round with his chin of poop.
yesihavearm
10-05-2007, 02:53 PM
Are you fucking serious ?
Pavlik would win with a first round KO.
Mundine's chin is grade A china, got knocked out by feather-fisted Sven Ottke.
Pavlik is one of the biggest Middleweight punchers ever.
Mundine isnt even top30 PvP
Mundine for sure, he'll beat them all :D
The man :lol: :lol:
Are you fucking serious ?
Pavlik would win with a first round KO.
Mundine's chin is grade A china, got knocked out by feather-fisted Sven Ottke.
Pavlik is one of the biggest Middleweight punchers ever.
Mundine isnt even top30 PvP
Wow.... That post was really shit. Well done.
stiflers mum
10-05-2007, 08:15 PM
All Blacks will only choke is they get beaten by anyone other than Sth Africa.
Now fuckoff and stop making me nervous :?:?
it will all be over real soon.:yep
planetzion
10-05-2007, 08:34 PM
mmmm i doubt Mundine could stand up to Pavliks power. Taylor is fast and moves very well, but Pavlik caught him with many punches.
Pavlik KO 9
he stood up to kesslers and danny greens??? Definatley mundine has a strond chance....very tough fight but a stong chance mundine is very good defesivley
boxfan99
10-06-2007, 06:15 AM
A fit and two-eyed Mundine wins this, at 168, by UD unfortunately, though I would love to see a guy like Pavlik KO him as bad or worse than Ottke did.:yep If Mundine should fight like he did in the fifth round against Nievas he will be put to sleep.
I get sick of always seeing hypothetical match up threads especially on the main forum. It's pretty much pointless, hearing arguments back and forth, about who is going to win and it means nothing , because they are just opinions.
These hypothetical match ups get really really thrashed , with posters always picking fighters wildly.
Fuck off then:good
greenghost
10-06-2007, 12:03 PM
Any one-eyed Mundine supporter would know that Pavlik would get ko'ed by Mundine
I follow green 100%, but I agree that mundine would make pavlik look stupid, Green would beat pavlik. I was impressed with his win, but he was very lucky:deal
one in a million
10-06-2007, 05:41 PM
Fuck off then:good
"WELL SAID" :happy :thumbsup
jahobe
10-10-2007, 02:41 AM
Mundine handled green and kessler's power and kessler can bang harder than pavlik, Mundine would win because his defence is world class
EelsRule
10-10-2007, 06:04 AM
Mundine needs to FOCUS on getting his EYE back in. Its hard for me to VISUALISE the result of this hypothetical fight as "I" cannot SEE it happening.
Mundine by UD....
jahobe
10-10-2007, 06:07 AM
Mundine needs to FOCUS on getting his EYE back in. Its hard for me to VISUALISE the result of this hypothetical fight as "I" cannot SEE it happening.
Mundine by UD....
yeh, dnt hink it would happen. whats the story on his recovery, has he put down a date for next fight?
EelsRule
10-10-2007, 06:15 AM
I doubt he will fight again. My understanding is that there was some optimisim following the initial diabolical outlook and now they are back to a realisation that vision probably wont fully return. And despite all the bravado from Mundine about fighting with one eye. He will never be licensed to fight professionally again with poor vision. I am not sure he has even thought about that aspect of it yet. He is probably just happy to not be blind.
Either way I've enjoyed his career in a big way, and I look forward to his future in politics or whatever. So long as "whatever" is not music.
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