Bellew-McKenzie

[GladiatoR]

If Bellew beats McKenzie and picks up the Commonwealth title, where does he go next?

[Dan684]

To the dressing room :good

[NO MAS]

He can go anywhere he wants too... It would be nice for him to go through the Domestic and European route. A Lonsdale Belt outright would be great for him. Some good fights as he develops and prepares to smash Cleverley, cos he will...:yep

[Mazallan]

He fights Oakey.

[Dan684]

I agree with Mazallan

All roads would HOPEFULLY point to Oakey.

[Beeston Brawler]

Vacate it and go for the British title.

[BURNLEYBLUE]

Bellew would have to keep tight and be smart. No doubting its a fight he should win, but that Ovill has a serios dig and is on fire at the moment..........Speaking of keeping tight, mazallans avvy is fuckin ace.

[NO MAS]

Bellew would have to keep tight and be smart. No doubting its a fight he should win, but that Ovill has a serios dig and is on fire at the moment..........Speaking of keeping tight, mazallans avvy is fuckin ace.

I agree, that avatar is great...:nut It would make a great bottle opener...:yep

Is Oakey with Hatton now...? I think they might struggle to make this, might be a problem with promoters... I think that there are a few on here would know if this is the case or not...:think

I think that Tony will use his boxing brain in the McKenzie fight and box his way to a good KO... Not many on here acknowledge his boxing skills, he ain't just a banger...:yep

[Dan684]

Yeah he is Jon, that may present a problem with the fight and I can't see it coming off soon.

Well done today. Bitter fuckers :hey

[NO MAS]

Yeah he is Jon, that may present a problem with the fight and I can't see it coming off soon.

Well done today. Bitter fuckers :hey

I have put my thoughts on today's game on your Choi thread...:barf

[moorser]

mckenzie is a tough fight for bellew

he looked like a monster last night

some jack russells on him

would be a war imo

[jonnyP]

i feel if bellew can get through the first 4or 5 rounds with mckenzie he should be able to pick mckenzie off and get a mid-late stoppage, mckenzie is very dangerous early on and it would be a great name on bellews record

[kosaros]

If the fight is made, as long as Bellew plays it safe in the first couple of rounds he should win fairly easily - McKenzie's good in the first few rounds, but if you take him into the later rounds then he struggles.

[Dan684]

What he said ^





























Posh Fuck :lol:

[billy nelson]

If the fight is made, as long as Bellew plays it safe in the first couple of rounds he should win fairly easily - McKenzie's good in the first few rounds, but if you take him into the later rounds then he struggles.i would be supised if McKenzie lasted into the second half of a fight with Tony,Tony's jab is lethal and he'd open him up with it before stopping him with right hands.well thats what i think ha ha :bbb

[jonnyP]

i would be supised if McKenzie lasted into the second half of a fight with Tony,Tony's jab is lethal and he'd open him up with it before stopping him with right hands.well thats what i think ha ha :bbb

if he could take mckenzie out early that would be a real statement, although bob ajisafe had him down in the first, do you think bellew would stand up to mckenzies bombs ?

[Dan684]

if he could take mckenzie out early that would be a real statement, although bob ajisafe had him down in the first, do you think bellew would stand up to mckenzies bombs ?

As long as they dont land on his nipple :lol:

[kosaros]

if he could take mckenzie out early that would be a real statement, although bob ajisafe had him down in the first, do you think bellew would stand up to mckenzies bombs ?

Wrong way around mate, McKenzie had Ajisafe down in the first :good

[jonnyP]

As long as they dont land on his nipple :lol:

:rofl can he keep his nipple tucked into his chest ??

[jonnyP]

Wrong way around mate, McKenzie had Ajisafe down in the first :good

sorry, yes your right :good i rate ajisafe, hel only get better with the ingles..

[jabjab]

if he could take mckenzie out early that would be a real statement, although bob ajisafe had him down in the first, do you think bellew would stand up to mckenzies bombs ?

im sure bellew could take all mckenzies best shots and more!

bellew has never been put down (legitimately) in his life as a pro amateur or in sparring. i remember a certain mr david price saying hes hit bellew with countless big shots in sparring but has never seen him hurt once.

bellew has an amazing chin, i have never ever seen him remotely hurt and i have seen him fight countless times as an amateur and pro and seen him spar hundreds of rounds:good

[jonnyP]

im sure bellew could take all mckenzies best shots and more!

bellew has never been put down (legitimately) in his life as a pro amateur or in sparring. i remember a certain mr david price saying hes hit bellew with countless big shots in sparring but has never seen him hurt once.

bellew has an amazing chin, i have never ever seen him remotely hurt and i have seen him fight countless times as an amateur and pro and seen him spar hundreds of rounds:good

with his amateur pedigree the power, teh temprement one off teh only questions remains is his chin and you seem very confident of that, if its as solid as you say hes going to go far!! :yep

[gasman]

im sure bellew could take all mckenzies best shots and more!

bellew has never been put down (legitimately) in his life as a pro amateur or in sparring. i remember a certain mr david price saying hes hit bellew with countless big shots in sparring but has never seen him hurt once.

bellew has an amazing chin, i have never ever seen him remotely hurt and i have seen him fight countless times as an amateur and pro and seen him spar hundreds of rounds:good

When do you forsee Bellew-McKensie taking place? I have been impressed with Bellew and a fight with Ovil would be great experience for him.

[kosaros]

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Boxrec are talking about McKenzie fighting Bellew on the Liverpool card in March.

[JCB123]

would be supised if McKenzie lasted into the second half of a fight with Tony,Tony's jab is lethal and he'd open him up with it before stopping him with right hands.well thats what i think ha ha

Fair shout billy!!! Tony's jab is great & i would love to see this fight just to see how much tony has progressed cos McKenzie is tough (i know Tony is) but i'd like to see how Tony boxed aginst a tough cookie who could hurt him.

Think this would be a great test

[royalt0208]

Should be a good test for Tony and hopefully a good win can see him stay busy and making a big push towards a world title.

I personally would like to see him not down the British Title route because other then the winner of Tony Oakey-Danny McIntosh there is absolutely nothing at the domestic division worth taking on. But there are quite a few world ranked Commonwealth Light Heavys at the moment and there are some decent fighters like Tim Bell, Isaac Chilemba, Braimah Kamoko, Eric Lucas, Soulan Pownceby, Jonny Walker, Vikapita Meroro, Daniel Lovett.

[billy nelson]

if he could take mckenzie out early that would be a real statement, although bob ajisafe had him down in the first, do you think bellew would stand up to mckenzies bombs ?yes he would,the guy needs to land them first and imo wont against Tony,Tony's jab's the key to this fight.

[funtime09]

Tony would smash ovil ur see march 12th anyone want a bet?

[Dan684]

:lol:

Calm down calm down

[tec]

ive heard frank m dont want mckenzie to fight bellew , shit bag

[Dan684]

Would you wanna put somebody you care about in the ring with a 'Smashing Machine' who 'Ices' grown men for fun :yep

[NO MAS]

I will go to this card in Liverpool, it will be an early night though for McKenzie...if they take the fight...:scaredas:

Who else is on this card JabJab...?...:think

[Dan684]

Here you lazy Blue Nosed shit :lol:

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:good

[NO MAS]

Here you lazy Blue Nosed shit :lol:

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:good

You can't beat havin a Manure doing a bit of running round for you on a Sunday morning...:yep

Cheers Dan...:good

[TommyV]

Bellew easily.

[Tony Bellew]

What's happening the East side massive:good;):good..

I'll first of all say McKenzie did great against Billy Boyle and did what he had to do, Me and Maloney had a litle spat, I let him know I'll do his fighter no problem as he was having a go at my trainer!! I told the little dwarf it doesn't matter wether it's Ovil or not I'll get that title!! His reply was something like tell such and such to f off to which I said go and f**k yourself you garden knome!!

The fight with me and Ovil was all made, I had agreed and Ovil had agreed terms and all he had to do was beat Boyle and prove he can get close to the light heavy limit, He done this so the fight should have been done BUT now his promoter has put a stop to it!! Nothing to do with my side it's all to do with 1 man!! The garden knome!!

I respect Ovil he's a good fighter and was willing to get in a ring with me so for that alone I was giving him 100% respect... It's just a shame now that the fans and paying public won't get to see a good matchup of 2 exciting punchers coming head to head.. I feel it's also a shame that Ovil shouldn't be allowed to fight me for the Commenwealth title too!! It's a terrible shame..

I hope he makes a decision and tells the garden knome I want to progress my career and fight for a title.. Im hoping so anyway.I wish him all the best either way.

This fight is a must I feel and if the garden knome puts a stop to it then it shows he don't want his fighters to progress in my opinion..:-(

Once again thanks for all the support off you guys on here it's well appreciated.. I'd have posted earlier BUT im still getting over the truamtic times of the derby yesterday..:-(:dead:-(

[Dan684]

:rofl

I wonder if Maloney reads these forums ? He's gotten some stick on here recently, what with the thread about his shows being the worst bar none and this :lol:

I have his book and he seemed to have been a pretty decent bloke up until about 3-4 years ago, now he seem to be losing the plot big time.

I still wanna know (without bringing up any hurt) what he did that has upset the Sutherland family so much

[Beeston Brawler]

Either he does or someone within his organisation does.

It was interesting to read the results on Boxrec for Friday and see that there were no Eurobums on display.

All in all it was a good show, the supporting contests were fairly evenly matched, if spoiled slightly by another dodgy decision..... but certainly a marked improvement on recent weeks.

According to Steve's William Hill podcast there are certain fighters that have been blacklisted. Great move, it is the entertainment business, boring/shit (or both like Haskins) fighters shouldn't be clogging up slots that young up and comers or entertainers could take.

[NO MAS]

Thought that would be the case...you knew that the bottle would drop when the match with Tony was made...:yep

:scaredas: :scaredas: :scaredas:...You knew as soon as McKenzie dispensed Boyle that someones arse would be twitching like a rabbits nose...:scaredas: :scaredas: :scaredas:

[royalt0208]

Bad luck Tony I was really looking forward to this match, are you still fighting for the Commonwealth on the 12th?

FTM if you're reading this you are a fool let Ovill take this fight there isn't a better fight out there for him and there isn't another fight that will get him close to the pay he will get for fighting Tony all you're doing is hurting you're own fighter.

[Tony Bellew]

Bad luck Tony I was really looking forward to this match, are you still fighting for the Commonwealth on the 12th?

FTM if you're reading this you are a fool let Ovill take this fight there isn't a better fight out there for him and there isn't another fight that will get him close to the pay he will get for fighting Tony all you're doing is hurting you're own fighter.


I sincerely hope he reads all your views guys.. The only man stopping this fight from happening is Maloney!! Ovil wants it and I want it big time!!

[jonnyP]

fight danny mac tony!!! if he gets through oakey of course, do you feel you could stop oakey, hows your punching compare with francis do you reckon ??

[Tony Bellew]

fight danny mac tony!!! if he gets through oakey of course, do you feel you could stop oakey, hows your punching compare with francis do you reckon ??


I'd love to fight McIntosh but I don't see him beating Oakey if im being totally honest and if he does lose I doubt he'll go straight in with me after losing 2 on the run!! I wouldn't even think about stopping Tony Oakey, I'd be prepared for 12 hard rounds and if it came then I'd be happy but you can't fight people like him expecting a knockout..

Dean Francis is a dangerous operator and serious puncher, I don't know who has the bigger power if im honest but I do believe in my own power and believe if that if i catch someone on the button they will go regardless of who it is..:good

[Leo Ross]

Oakey has got a tremendous engine but I honestly reckon he'll walk onto one of Bellews right hands. His style is made for Tony Bellew. Id love to see that fight, no backward steps taken, a good tear up between 2 class acts in and out of the ring.

[NO MAS]

It is pretty clear that the majority of the division are giving Tony a swerve...:yep

As frustrating as this might be it is a fantastic compliment of the power and ability that Tony has developed from the amateurs to the pros...:bbb

I would love to see a fight with Oakey... I personally think that Tony would use his boxing brain and box his way to a late stoppage over Oakey.

Oakey has the ring wisdom for sure, but the energy and power of Tony will be too much late on...

Oakey is a fantastic benchmark and make another step in the direction of Cleverley...:yep

I just have my concerns if the promoters will do business to make this Oakey fight happen...:think

You know the Eastside Boys are with you Tony...:deal

[Leo Ross]

Totally agree with you on that mate, Oakey would take the fight no doubt, just a question of money IMO. It'll take a few quid for fighters to box Bellew right now, he's as dangerous an opponent as any at European level and we know how promoters like to protect their earners dont we!!!!

[BURNLEYBLUE]

Gone are the days where the best need to fight the best to progress. There's to many options for fighters now. Just gotta keep doin what you do Tony.

[robpalmer135]

Totally agree with you on that mate, Oakey would take the fight no doubt, just a question of money IMO. It'll take a few quid for fighters to box Bellew right now, he's as dangerous an opponent as any at European level and we know how promoters like to protect their earners dont we!!!!

I am pretty sure Bellew has stated Oakey turned the fight down with him.

[robpalmer135]

think Francis is retired. he certainly cant make light heavy anymore.

really hope the Ovil McEnzie fight happens.

Maloney comments on the altercation

"He has been offered a fight with Bellew in March, but it isn't happening. Ovill is after the British title."
Bellew's ringside behaviour during McKenzie's victory over Boyle has caused anger in the Prizefighter cruiserweight winner's camp.

"Bellew was out of order with his aggressive cut throat gestures and should know better than to behave like that towards another professional," added Maloney.

"Ovill should have been enjoying his moment of glory, but had to put up with the sort of behaviour seen in American gangster films.

"What has Ovill done wrong to upset Bellew in the past?

"His antics has made sure the fight doesn't happen for now. I hope Bellew can dwell on the incident now and realise he was wrong."

[Dan684]

:rofl

Can anybody else see Bellew making cut-throat gestures to McKenzie for no reason ?

[moorser]

moloney is a cunt

he said that he would not give dunne a fight with munroe because he said dunne would be finished after losing to cordoba

after dunne wins he gos chasing dunne for a world title fight

his shows are crap and this crap of saying "bellew has let himself down by making cut throat gestures " is ridiculas , you would sware someone has been shot by the way he is carrying on !

fuck sake just make the fight you little runt

[tec]

:rofl

Can anybody else see Bellew making cut-throat gestures to McKenzie for no reason ? think frank m is tryin to pass the book onto bellew, shit bag

[icemax]

moloney is a cunt



This man has cut straight to the heart of the issue :deal

[mryeags]

think Francis is retired. he certainly cant make light heavy anymore.

really hope the Ovil McEnzie fight happens.

Maloney comments on the altercation

"He has been offered a fight with Bellew in March, but it isn't happening. Ovill is after the British title."
Bellew's ringside behaviour during McKenzie's victory over Boyle has caused anger in the Prizefighter cruiserweight winner's camp.

"Bellew was out of order with his aggressive cut throat gestures and should know better than to behave like that towards another professional," added Maloney.

"Ovill should have been enjoying his moment of glory, but had to put up with the sort of behaviour seen in American gangster films.

"What has Ovill done wrong to upset Bellew in the past?

"His antics has made sure the fight doesn't happen for now. I hope Bellew can dwell on the incident now and realise he was wrong."

Yes Tony "he's not the Messiah he's a very naughty boy !"

Would be a great tune to enter the ring to in youre next fight mate :good

Lets all do the oakey cokey thats a real good match up !! ....

[Tony Bellew]

Tony Oakey was offered but couldn't do it as he had a previous engagement already done with McIntosh!! I know for a fact Tony oakey would fight anyone!! The guys a true warrior and I believe Ovil is the same.. My gesture was done at Maloney too not Ovil!! I told him I'll do his man,

Im not the type to disrespect fighters, I just plain don't like Maloney and he don't like me!! The guy knows I'll beat his fighter and that's all it boils down to in the end, I guarentee he'd let him fight Courtney Fry for the title so why not let him fight me?? I personally think he's gonna be very badly avoided now that he's done that to Billy Boyle so here is 1 guy who's begging to fight him,give him a good pay day and also have a title on the line, How much more does the garden knome want???

[Mazallan]

Maloney should fuck off back to Ireland...stupid little paddy.


Hope we get to see the Bellew vs Ovil fight though. Looks a very exciting match up even without the garbage.

[Tony Bellew]

Sorry guys but this fight is now dead in the water as the garden knome has completly said NO!! Ovil had agreed terms as had myself but the dwarf has put an end to it and made sure you all miss out on an exciting fight..:-(

Sorry guys, I ain't giving this anymore attention as there's nothing I can do about it..:-(

Thanks again to all of you on here, Once again your support is brilliant and I appreciate it.. You all know my stance on fighting opponents.. I'll fight any light heavy in Britian..:good

[ishy]

That's a real fucking shame. Have you got any other opponents lined up? I think if you can't get any British fighters into the ring with you, you should ask ****** to get some good euro/int'l oppo over.

[Beeston Brawler]

Is he able to do that?

Surely a fighter has a right of veto......

[mryeags]

Sorry guys but this fight is now dead in the water as the garden knome has completly said NO!! Ovil had agreed terms as had myself but the dwarf has put an end to it and made sure you all miss out on an exciting fight..:-(

Sorry guys, I ain't giving this anymore attention as there's nothing I can do about it..:-(

Thanks again to all of you on here, Once again your support is brilliant and I appreciate it.. You all know my stance on fighting opponents.. I'll fight any light heavy in Britian..:good

Would Carl Dilks step up ?? i know its a weight bracket higher than his last fight but i have read hes moving up .... I like Dilks he looks a good allround boxer and was really unlucky not to get the decision against Adamu ...

You fancy this fight Tony ? whats your thoughts on Dilks in general ?

And mate when you are in front of a packed house on the Vegas strip against Cloud , Pascal or even dawson then the whole maloney saga will be long forgotten :good

Whats your thoughts on those guys ? ... for me Cloud is dangerous he hits hard this guy and Pascal is a warrior as he showed last time up against Diaconu what a fight that was ....

[ollyc]

Would Carl Dilks step up ?? i know its a weight bracket higher than his last fight but i have read hes moving up .... I like Dilks he looks a good allround boxer and was really unlucky not to get the decision against Adamu ...

You fancy this fight Tony ? whats your thoughts on Dilks in general ?

And mate when you are in front of a packed house on the Vegas strip against Cloud , Pascal or even dawson then the whole maloney saga will be long forgotten :good

Whats your thoughts on those guys ? ... for me Cloud is dangerous he hits hard this guy and Pascal is a warrior as he showed last time up against Diaconu what a fight that was ....

:lol::lol::lol: I take you don't ever visit the boxrec Brit/Irish forum ...

[mryeags]

:lol::lol::lol: I take you don't ever visit the boxrec Brit/Irish forum ...

On this occasion i have to say No ! ... i take it then Mr Dilks and Mr Bellew arent exactly good friends then ???

[ollyc]

On this occasion i have to say No ! ... i take it then Mr Dilks and Mr Bellew arent exactly good friends then ???

I'll let the man himself answer in depth, but i've seen Dilks make one or two unwise comments in various publications.

[PaddyD1983]

Would have been a good scrap! Devo'd.

I'm sure whoever steps in for the March gig though will get a statement made against them. Soon enough To you'll be mandatory for the British title and no-one will be able to run. I just hope that you get it sooner rather than later so that you can crack on with you career as soon as. But where there's interest and money to be made then the fights will come. Similar to Fury getting his shot at HW. Yours will come mate.

I'd like to see you v Jeffries at some point as well.

I'd really like to see you against Fry next though. I know it's been talked about on here and I believe a purse couldnt be agreed with Courtney, but I really think that would be a great test for you. And given he's only recently fought Clev, it'd be a good yardstick too.

Anyways, hope you get a decent opponent and blow him away!

[robpalmer135]

Dilks is fighting Groves on the Haye vs Ruiz undercard.

[Mazallan]

Wow Groves vs Dilks should be great. Any chance of tickets still being available for that bill or should I wait til they are giving them away free because of lack of interest?

[ollyc]

Wow Groves vs Dilks should be great. Any chance of tickets still being available for that bill or should I wait til they are giving them away free because of lack of interest?

What the fuck is going on in your avatar?
And how do I get an invite?

[Tony Bellew]

I really rate all the top boys at light heavy at the min, It's too soon for me right now BUT I like Dawson and think the guy is awesome!! Cloud and Pascal will be special if it happens.. Both extremely exciting fighters with very crowd pleasing styles so it's a must I feel.. As for Dawson though I think he's the main man BUT can be hurt also so it makes for a very interesting couple of years for the light heavyweights I feel..:good

[Tony Bellew]

P.s Dilks has already said no to fighting me as he was offered the match in October BUT said he was not a light heavyweight..:-(

[Dan684]

P.s Dilks has already said no to fighting me as he was offered the match in October BUT said he was not a light heavyweight..:-(

:huh:huh

The same Dilks who wanted you to fight him so you could sort out the L/Heavy bragging rights in your city before you went calling out Cleverley ????

[Tony Bellew]

:huh:huh

The same Dilks who wanted you to fight him so you could sort out the L/Heavy bragging rights in your city before you went calling out Cleverley ????


That's fella mate..:yep:yep;):yep:yep

[royalt0208]

Tony if what you are saying is true and British contenders are avoiding you (which I am sure they are) then the logical step would be to bring in decent opposition from abroad.

I just hope you get the level of opposition that you've earned. Are you still going to be fighting for a title on the 12th?

[royalt0208]

Just gunna play imaginary matchmaker. The two names that I would love to see Tony in with are either Shawn Hammack or Braimah Kamoko. Hammock is an American his record is 19-7-0 14 KO's he's faced decent opposition and has never been stopped he would be an excellent learning fight. Kamoko is an undefeated Ghanian with a record of 19-0 14 KO's he was the African Champion and would allow Tony to fight for the Commonwealth. Yep I know I have an overactive imagination.

[Tony Bellew]

Tony if what you are saying is true and British contenders are avoiding you (which I am sure they are) then the logical step would be to bring in decent opposition from abroad.

I just hope you get the level of opposition that you've earned. Are you still going to be fighting for a title on the 12th?

Believe you me pal you won't hear any lies from me, If you read my posts you'll see I have named the people who have rejected to fight me an from my point of view it's very frustrating but one I can't do nothing about, I will be fighting for a title on the 12th March what title and who against I do not know mate..:good

[scouse red man]

Good luck on the 12th, Tony. Some good times for fight fans in Liverpool at the mo and I deffo see you going onwards and upwards - as long as certain boxers grow a set and allow you to. Are you hoping to get a shot at Cleverley before the year ends?

[NO MAS]

Hope everything goes well for you Tony... You are a cut above the other fighters domestically and it is clear that none of them want any of it...:scaredas:

I am sure that your promoter will get you the right fights at the right time and take you towards the other fighters you have mentioned that are at the top...:yep

Hope that 2010 is a great year for you...:good

[billy nelson]

Hope everything goes well for you Tony... You are a cut above the other fighters domestically and it is clear that none of them want any of it...:scaredas:

I am sure that your promoter will get you the right fights at the right time and take you towards the other fighters you have mentioned that are at the top...:yep

Hope that 2010 is a great year for you...:goodwell at least one evertonian will win a title this year lol:hi::nut

[Grant1]

Believe you me pal you won't hear any lies from me, If you read my posts you'll see I have named the people who have rejected to fight me an from my point of view it's very frustrating but one I can't do nothing about, I will be fighting for a title on the 12th March what title and who against I do not know mate..:good

Tony I love your attitude mate, very refreshing and honest :good

I'll support you against everybody bar Clev :good

[NO MAS]

well at least one evertonian will win a title this year lol:hi::nut

Spot on Billy...! :good

[robpalmer135]

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clearly Maloney has realised he can make a few quid from Ovil and that getting sparked by Bellew is not a good idea.

[Mazallan]

Thanks for the find Rob.