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Lee Mc
02-08-2010, 06:29 AM
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I was impressed by Mitchell's performance against Prescott but Katsidis is at least 2 levels above the Columbian. Does anyone else think that Katsidis is all wrong for Mitchell at this stage of his career?

I'f I was ****** and desperate to get a "name" on Mitchell's record, I go for Casamayor.

TFFP
02-08-2010, 06:43 AM
I don't think Katsidis is all wrong for him stylistically, he gives you a lot of opportunities. He's going to be tough to outbox because he's so relentless, Mitchell would have to show us more power than in the Prescott fight, hit and run amateur style boxing wouldn't get the job done. So it really depends on whether Mitchell's power holds up at that level, if it can he has a shot to win by knockout.

Mazallan
02-08-2010, 06:49 AM
I still think that Mitchell needs two fights before mving into championship class and guys like Katsidis but with how slow the early part of his career went I can not blame him for wanting to get a move on now he is fighting well.

TFFP
02-08-2010, 06:55 AM
Yeah agreed, I also wouldn't put him in that company yet. Prescott was a step in the right direction, but in its proper context. We know Prescott was beatable by any kind of decent boxer, he proved that in his loss prior to Mitchell.

But Mitchell's next fight against Mendoza is a waste of time. He lost to a guy with a 11-8-2 record by KO recently :-(

Good fights for Mitchell would be Santa Cruz, Agnes Adjaho, Ameth Diaz, even David Diaz. Somebody in that category.

icemax
02-08-2010, 07:27 AM
I just read that as "****** Mitchell can beat Katsidis"....maybe in the 60's but now that he's nearly 85 it might be a bit of a stretch for him.

Seriously, I don't know how this fight would pan out, but one thing is for certain, there is a fairly high liklihood that it would be a bit of a tear-up

Mandanda
02-08-2010, 07:35 AM
I look at it like this. Kevin did brilliant against Prescott but showed he's still adapting and had to box to his best ablity that night to win and steer clear of a b level banger. Katsidis presents a lot more. Ok he's not blessed with great ability but he's crude,strong,brave,fit and learning and improving himself.

Kevin boxed a similar styled fighter in Johansson although Katsidis is lower stanced and has better boxing brain,He boxed his ears off for a good 5 rounds before getting embroiled in a war. Kevin needs a few more fights to learn and grow into weight before entering ring with Katisidis.

It's ok saying he can beat him but it's what the effect will be fighting him. There's no way at this time Kevin could outbox Micheal for 12 rounds without being in trench warfare with him.

Lee Mc
02-08-2010, 07:35 AM
I just read that as "****** Mitchell can beat Katsidis"....maybe in the 60's but now that he's nearly 85 it might be a bit of a stretch for him.

Seriously, I don't know how this fight would pan out, but one thing is for certain, there is a fairly high liklihood that it would be a bit of a tear-up

:think

NO MAS
02-08-2010, 07:44 AM
This is decent top spin from the promoter but a fight with Katsidis is a very tricky assignment indeed...:yep

If this fight is made and Mitchell comes 2nd it leaves him in a difficult place as I think that it would be a tough road back for him... If he was to win, it would lead to an interesting thread on here...:yep

Man the sandbags and the blood bin...this will be a tear up no doubt about it... Can't see this going to the final bell...:think

Hope he wins but it's a mountain to climb...:yep

Strike
02-08-2010, 07:58 AM
It would be a great fight and a very tough night for Mitchell. But he could stop him. Earl doesn't bang any harder than Mitchell and he nearly had Katsidis out.
But I don't think Mitchells power is anything like as good as his record suggests, but on the flip side his boxing ability is much better than many of his fights suggest.

At the end of the day he should be stepping into this class now. He has a lot of fights under his belt and needs to step up to the higher level.

icemax
02-08-2010, 08:06 AM
:think

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In his prime he would have had a shot

Lee Mc
02-08-2010, 08:12 AM
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In his prime he would have had a shot

:rofl :rofl

Dan684
02-08-2010, 08:47 AM
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO









































Oh yeah.......... And NO !

billy nelson
02-08-2010, 08:58 AM
i think kasitas's style would be perfect for kevin mitchell,he'd walk onto straight shots then kevin would hurt him with body shots,kasitas lacks movement straight up kevins street imo.good luck if it happens kevin.

tec
02-08-2010, 09:23 AM
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In his prime he would have had a shot



i dont belive it

Lee Mc
02-08-2010, 09:25 AM
i dont belive it


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icemax
02-08-2010, 09:26 AM
i dont belive it

Err.....no :lol:

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I don't believe it

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"you bladdy scarse git"

Dan684
02-08-2010, 01:47 PM
i think kasitas's style would be perfect for kevin mitchell,he'd walk onto straight shots then kevin would hurt him with body shots,kasitas lacks movement straight up kevins street imo.good luck if it happens kevin.


Who ? :lol:

I disagree with you there Bill :good

Katsidis would bounce Mitchell around the ring

Boro chris
02-08-2010, 01:55 PM
Very winnable fight for Mitchel. Gotta fight a worldclass opponent at some point and Katsidis is perfect. Big name as well. Would get Mitchell plenty of recognition.

BURNLEYBLUE
02-08-2010, 03:20 PM
Who ? :lol:

I disagree with you there Bill :good

Katsidis would bounce Mitchell around the ring
Goes against the grain, but will have to agree with the Scotsman here;)
I reckon Mitchell has the ability to make Katsidis look pretty ordinary.The sharp shots,upper body movement and angles he showed in his last fight, along with the added confidence gained in that fight, could have the ozzy punchin fresh air and getting busted up pretty bad.

jonnyP
02-08-2010, 04:09 PM
who has mitchell fought for anyone to be thinking he could beat katsidis ? katsidis pressure is in a diffrent street to prescotts and imo would wear mitchel down and stop him late

achillesthegreat
02-08-2010, 04:11 PM
Then make the fucking fight happen Frank.

kosaros
02-08-2010, 04:25 PM
Then make the fucking fight happen Frank.

They are trying to in the Summer.

Dan684
02-08-2010, 05:09 PM
This fight happens I will break rule and avatar bet ANYONE who reckons Mitchell wins

NO MAS
02-08-2010, 06:51 PM
This fight happens I will break rule and avatar bet ANYONE who reckons Mitchell wins

I could have a look at that bet...:think

Dan684
02-08-2010, 07:05 PM
Dont 'Have a look' you fanny........ TAKE IT NOW !!

Never beats Katsidis unless its 3 years (and many Katsidis wars) later

NO MAS
02-08-2010, 07:23 PM
Dont 'Have a look' you fanny........ TAKE IT NOW !!

Never beats Katsidis unless its 3 years (and many Katsidis wars) later

Good to see the brave pills are working Dan...:lol:

What's the terms and conditions of the avatar bet then...:think

kosaros
02-08-2010, 07:25 PM
Dont 'Have a look' you fanny........ TAKE IT NOW !!

Never beats Katsidis unless its 3 years (and many Katsidis wars) later

Don't you think cuts could be a factor if they fought? :think

Dan684
02-08-2010, 07:27 PM
No Kos

John - Draw voids bet - Must Keep for a month after the day you put it up, not a month after the fight. I dont want you running off after the fight and not coming on for a month with your Coat of Arms :good

NO MAS
02-08-2010, 07:27 PM
Don't you think cuts could be a factor if they fought? :think


Defo... This contest ain't going to hear the final bell...:yep

NO MAS
02-08-2010, 07:29 PM
No Kos

John - Draw voids bet - Must Keep for a month after the day you put it up, not a month after the fight. I dont want you running off after the fight and not coming on for a month with your Coat of Arms :good

Should I lose what will I have as my avatar...:think

Dan684
02-08-2010, 07:32 PM
Not sure yet. Probably Fergie however if I notice something else riles you that may be a deciding factor

HairyHighlander
02-08-2010, 07:36 PM
Kats wins this, simply, his pressure is relentless.

From what i can remember he seems to be getting more and more relentless in each fight, if thats possible.

This does lead me to the " when is he gonna slide " modus as im thinking, the body failing him, not his head of course ( win/lose, what hammerings it has taken ) and strangely i think it could be as close as his next fight...would we be surprised ?

Confusing i know, as is Kats to me.

I see a ****** home show with a good cuts ref resulting in Mitchell getting a piss weak stoppage as the only way currently.

No disrespect to Mitchell at all but what on paper stands out regarding his results ?

Some people have said that Kats should change trainer and tighten up his style but i think, regardless of trainer he will just charge on.

The way he has broken into America and mixed it up given the amount of fights he has had is quite impressive i think.

Im sure theres a few fighters that have his number regarding style but right now.......Katsidis all day everyday.





This took me ages :oops:

NO MAS
02-08-2010, 07:36 PM
Not sure yet. Probably Fergie however if I notice something else riles you that may be a deciding factor

I guessed it will be Manure based...:yep

You will post a City Badge, I will email it you...:good

If they make this fight the avatar bet is on...:deal

HairyHighlander
02-08-2010, 07:39 PM
Goes against the grain, but will have to agree with the Scotsman here;)
I reckon Mitchell has the ability to make Katsidis look pretty ordinary.The sharp shots,upper body movement and angles he showed in his last fight, along with the added confidence gained in that fight

I can see this, and i can see this........

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Dan684
02-08-2010, 07:39 PM
If Mitchell wins and you can find someone with photoshop skills good enough I will sport a pic of Fergie Sucking Calzaghe off

HairyHighlander
02-08-2010, 07:41 PM
I also see this.....


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Anytime soon :yep

kosaros
02-08-2010, 07:41 PM
Kats wins this, simply, his pressure is relentless.

From what i can remember he seems to be getting more and more relentless in each fight, if thats possible.

This does lead me to the " when is he gonna slide " modus as im thinking, the body failing him, not his head of course ( win/lose, what hammerings it has taken ) and strangely i think it could be as close as his next fight...would we be surprised ?

Confusing i know, as is Kats to me.

I see a ****** home show with a good cuts ref resulting in Mitchell getting a piss weak stoppage as the only way currently.

No disrespect to Mitchell at all but what on paper stands out regarding his results ?

Some people have said that Kats should change trainer and tighten up his style but i think, regardless of trainer he will just charge on.

The way he has broken into America and mixed it up given the amount of fights he has had is quite impressive i think.

Im sure theres a few fighters that have his number regarding style but right now.......Katsidis all day everyday.





This took me ages :oops:

Yeah, I feel Katsidis should win (75-25 in his favour IMO). Although he has been in some wars already in his career, I feel he is still fairly fresh, although his resistance to cuts seems to have diminished.

Would love to see the fight happen though :bbb

kosaros
02-08-2010, 07:42 PM
If Mitchell wins and you can find someone with photoshop skills good enough I will sport a pic of Fergie Sucking Calzaghe off

:lol:

HairyHighlander
02-08-2010, 07:43 PM
If Mitchell wins and you can find someone with photoshop skills good enough I will sport a pic of Fergie Sucking Calzaghe off

I just post a pic of a winner and i see a post about a dog sucking of Calzaghe .........


Eyeeeeeeee ?

NO MAS
02-08-2010, 07:47 PM
I think that Mitchell will draw Katsidis onto the shots...:yep

Then when he gets the opportunity get to work on the inside, he will open up and expose Katsidis...:yep

It ain't going to be pretty and I cannot see it going the distance but it looks like Fergie will be blowin Joe for a month...:deal

Dan684
02-08-2010, 07:49 PM
NEVER EVER HAPPEN !!!!

I refuse to do avatar bets John and am only doing this one because its a done deal already.

NO MAS
02-08-2010, 07:55 PM
NEVER EVER HAPPEN !!!!

I refuse to do avatar bets John and am only doing this one because its a done deal already.

First avatar bet I have had...I see this as a 50/50 fight...:yep

I think that Tibbs will get Mitchell in the shape of his life for this fight...:yep

I think that Katsidis has been to the well a few times and tactically Mitchell can out fox him and draw him onto the shots...:yep

If I lose I am owned for a month a will get the shit that comes with it...:barf

HairyHighlander
02-08-2010, 07:57 PM
:lol:

Am working out whats more epic, your avatar or signature ?




Anyways, Brit Forum......

I like dogs, that wee snowy doggy and Calzaghe is bad news, cool dog and i watched Calzaghe Vs Eubank yesterday, neighbour was loving it, Mr IGOTESPN !!!!



Offtopic, when did Calzaghe go from good hands to brittle ones, is there an evident showing of him adopting quantity rather than quality ?

Quality, in this question = KO Power.

Was he a banger, previously ?




PS. Kats all dayyyyyyyyyy........everyday :smoke

billy nelson
02-09-2010, 04:51 AM
Who ? :lol:

I disagree with you there Bill :good

Katsidis would bounce Mitchell around the ringyou wont be te first or last mate ha ha:good

Losfer_Words
02-09-2010, 05:30 AM
I don't see how anyone is even debating this. Katsidis is a beast and proven world-class at 135. We don't even know if Mitchell was the best Super Feather in the UK, let alone one of the best lightweights in the world. I think Katsidis' experience and relentlessness at a higher level sees him through. Kats takes this no problems, IMO. Would still be an entertaining fight, though. Although the performance was fantastic on the night, let's not get carried away with a win against a bloke famous for sparking Khan in one round and nothing else.

kosaros
02-09-2010, 05:35 AM
I don't see how anyone is even debating this. Katsidis is a beast and proven world-class at 135. We don't even know if Mitchell was the best Super Feather in the UK, let alone one of the best lightweights in the world. I think Katsidis' experience and relentlessness at a higher level sees him through. Kats takes this no problems, IMO. Would still be an entertaining fight, though. Although the performance was fantastic on the night, let's not get carried away with a win against a bloke famous for sparking Khan in one round and nothing else.

And Katsidis was floored and hurt by Graham Earl - if Earl can hurt him, then I am pretty sure Mitchell can hurt him. It certainly isn't a gimme for Katsidis, thats for sure.

Mazallan
02-09-2010, 05:52 AM
Frank ****** talks alot of sense.

Losfer_Words
02-09-2010, 06:18 AM
And Katsidis was floored and hurt by Graham Earl - if Earl can hurt him, then I am pretty sure Mitchell can hurt him. It certainly isn't a gimme for Katsidis, thats for sure.

Earl didn't technically floor Katsidis; his gloves didn't touch the canvas and he sort of went into a squat and his arse was off the ground. Fuck knows why Vann started counting. It's not like Katsidis was hurt badly either as he went on to dominate the few rounds left. The times Katsidis has been floored have been due to his style and not a bad chin that is there to exploit. As I said, Katsidis is world-class and Mitchell's win against Prescott pales in comparison- if Mitchell wins then fair play to him as it's a huge scalp, but I don't see how anyone other than Katsidis can be favourite to win.

kosaros
02-09-2010, 06:28 AM
Earl didn't technically floor Katsidis; his gloves didn't touch the canvas and he sort of went into a squat and his arse was off the ground. Fuck knows why Vann started counting. It's not like Katsidis was hurt badly either as he went on to dominate the few rounds left. The times Katsidis has been floored have been due to his style and not a bad chin that is there to exploit. As I said, Katsidis is world-class and Mitchell's win against Prescott pales in comparison- if Mitchell wins then fair play to him as it's a huge scalp, but I don't see how anyone other than Katsidis can be favourite to win.

He was hurt by that punch that put him into a 'squat' as you say - he went flying across to the other side of the ring - and his arse looked like it hit the canvass to me :yep

And I never said Katsidis wasn't favourite, I agree with you, but Mitchell shouldn't be counted out either.

NO MAS
02-09-2010, 03:49 PM
you wont be te first or last mate ha ha:good


Billy will be laughing with me when Mitchell smokes the boots off Katsidis...:lol: :lol: :lol:

hitman_hatton1
02-09-2010, 04:00 PM
mitchell will outbox him.

easy. :yep

billy nelson
02-09-2010, 06:35 PM
Billy will be laughing with me when Mitchell smokes the boots off Katsidis...:lol: :lol: :lol:you get them told No Mas lol:good

Dan684
02-09-2010, 06:54 PM
Mitchell aint smoking the boots off anyone on the world stage. People are getting well too excited about the Prescott win. Prescott was/is a gunslinger with next to no skill. Khan was so very foolish fighting the way he did in that fight. I'd even pick Murray to tear Prescott apart.

Katsidis would punish and I mean PUNISH Mitchell. His defence is absolutely woeful. I can't believe people have forgot that all because he managed to avoid Prescotts shots (which were being pulled from Prescotts boots BTW).

Katisids is a very classy operator, Mitchell was having trouble recently with Super Feathers from the arse end of nowhere. He steps up at Lightweight he's getting pummelled!

NO MAS
02-09-2010, 07:06 PM
Mitchell aint smoking the boots off anyone on the world stage. People are getting well too excited about the Prescott win. Prescott was/is a gunslinger with next to no skill. Khan was so very foolish fighting the way he did in that fight. I'd even pick Murray to tear Prescott apart.

Katsidis would punish and I mean PUNISH Mitchell. His defence is absolutely woeful. I can't believe people have forgot that all because he managed to avoid Prescotts shots (which were being pulled from Prescotts boots BTW).

Katisids is a very classy operator, Mitchell was having trouble recently with Super Feathers from the arse end of nowhere. He steps up at Lightweight he's getting pummelled!

It is a big ask for Mitchell but I have rolled the dice and think that tactically he will do the business... The nearest he came to getting beat was by Johannsen, his corner was a whisker from pulling him out...:yep

He learnt so much that night and I feel he will beat Katsidis who will be drawn onto his shots to the head and he will nail the body as the opportunity comes... He will "Cement the wee barstat...!"...:lol:

Whilst Katsidis boots are smouldering Fergie will be blowin Joe for 30 days...:deal

Dan684
02-09-2010, 07:08 PM
Will never ever happen mate :good

NO MAS
02-09-2010, 07:36 PM
Will never ever happen mate :good


Smokin Joe will take on a new meaning...:lol: :lol:

Dan684
02-09-2010, 07:39 PM
:lol:

skel1983
02-09-2010, 07:42 PM
Earl didn't technically floor Katsidis; his gloves didn't touch the canvas and he sort of went into a squat and his arse was off the ground. Fuck knows why Vann started counting. It's not like Katsidis was hurt badly either as he went on to dominate the few rounds left. The times Katsidis has been floored have been due to his style and not a bad chin that is there to exploit. As I said, Katsidis is world-class and Mitchell's win against Prescott pales in comparison- if Mitchell wins then fair play to him as it's a huge scalp, but I don't see how anyone other than Katsidis can be favourite to win.


Thats bollocks mate, Katsidis was hurt badly when Earl caught him with that shot, and adding to that Earl actully won the round before he was pulled out, not saying he would of won he deffo wouldnt have. But Kats was on queer street when Earl caught him.

Mookhound
02-09-2010, 08:16 PM
Jeezuz... I admit to being disproportionately overkill on my support for Haye (and he's def gonna prove what I've been saying for a decade, if he hasn't already), Froch, Khan and Gavin... but I ain't on Mitchell.

But he is world class and Katsidis is very, very beatable. Mitchell will stop him. Jeezuz, we have people on here claiming the potential world class of very average (ie European level for the sake of this pointm that's obviosuly better than average) fighters like Kell Brook, Ricky Burns and Nathan Cleverly (though he's probably better than the previous duo) - Mitchell is LEAGUES above these guys, regardless of what you think of the of the Prescott win.

We had people on here claiming that Scott Harrison was a helluvalot more than he was (respect to him for making so much of limited talent, not meant as back-handed as it sounds). Mitchell is a top, top boxer.

I honestly can't see how Katsidis beats him, I really can't.

kosaros
02-09-2010, 08:24 PM
Jeezuz... I admit to being disproportionately overkill on my support for Haye (and he's def gonna prove what I've been saying for a decade, if he hasn't already), Froch, Khan and Gavin... but I ain't on Mitchell.

But he is world class and Katsidis is very, very beatable. Mitchell will stop him. Jeezuz, we have people on here claiming the potential world class of very average (ie European level for the sake of this pointm that's obviosuly better than average) fighters like Kell Brook, Ricky Burns and Nathan Cleverly (though he's probably better than the previous duo) - Mitchell is LEAGUES above these guys, regardless of what you think of the of the Prescott win.

We had people on here claiming that Scott Harrison was a helluvalot more than he was (respect to him for making so much of limited talent, not meant as back-handed as it sounds). Mitchell is a top, top boxer.

I honestly can't see how Katsidis beats him, I really can't.

By doing what Johanneson came very close to doing?

TFFP
02-09-2010, 08:28 PM
Jeezuz... I admit to being disproportionately overkill on my support for Haye (and he's def gonna prove what I've been saying for a decade, if he hasn't already), Froch, Khan and Gavin... but I ain't on Mitchell.

But he is world class and Katsidis is very, very beatable. Mitchell will stop him. Jeezuz, we have people on here claiming the potential world class of very average (ie European level for the sake of this pointm that's obviosuly better than average) fighters like Kell Brook, Ricky Burns and Nathan Cleverly (though he's probably better than the previous duo) - Mitchell is LEAGUES above these guys, regardless of what you think of the of the Prescott win.

We had people on here claiming that Scott Harrison was a helluvalot more than he was (respect to him for making so much of limited talent, not meant as back-handed as it sounds). Mitchell is a top, top boxer.

I honestly can't see how Katsidis beats him, I really can't.
Really?

Dan684
02-09-2010, 08:31 PM
I dont even get that post at all. If Katsidis gets beat by Mitchell I'll not post on the Brit Forum for 2 months !

NO MAS
02-09-2010, 08:32 PM
Taking nothing away from Mitchell in the Johannsen fight but if Carl would have trained and committed himself better he would have won that fight for sure...:yep

The the only thing that saved Mitchell that night was CJ's lack of preperation... :yepSo many in the game know that...:yep

NO MAS
02-09-2010, 08:33 PM
I dont even get that post at all. If Katsidis gets beat by Mitchell I'll not post on the Brit Forum for 2 months !

Once you have worn my avatar of choice for 30 days...:yep

paddycfc
02-09-2010, 09:06 PM
a think mitchell would beat katsidis.... graham earl dazed katsidis in there fight and if graham had the stamina to go on to finish him where would he be today.. i know he has come on alot since that fight but mitchell has come on alot to box the way he did against prescott everything was perfect a think he could even stop him within 5 rounds be a gd fight to take imo

jdawg
02-09-2010, 09:08 PM
I like Kevs hes a good kid and although too much has been made from the prescott ('king' khan conquerer dont ya know...) win at least he showed an abilty to stick to a sound gameplan from jimmy and mark tibbs and a sense of discipline that was lacking in his previous fights, especially the johanneson war. In the prescott fight mitchell was always ahead, able to avoid prescotts crude hooks and land telling shots so fair play boy did good and he outboxed a decent albeit 1-dimensional fighter. A couple of BIG questions would need to be answered in a katsidis fight though-

a) Ding-ding round 1 katsidis is on kev like flies to the brown stuff. High work rate and intensity suggests he'll likely win the first few rounds. Will mitchell be dragged into a scrap like he has been many a time previously? If he is, theres only 1 winner and i reckon he doesnt eat jellied eels.

b) Kev showed good power down at s/f but its debateable on whether its carried up the weight. He landed some heavy shot on prescott but never hurt him. A sound counter puncher, wich to be fair kev is, always has a good shout against a come forward warrior but look at hatton-malignaggi and see that if kev hasnt got the strength in his counters katsidis will feel he can walk through anything thrown and wear him down.

I think kev's got the boxing brain, classy combinations and quickness of feet to work katsidis out but he'd need big time positive answers to the above points for me to edge a close decsion. Controversial! :D

Mookhound
02-10-2010, 04:27 PM
Really?

A reply to the others who questioned that post as well.

I think Katsidis is absolutely made for Mitchell. Relentless pressure ain't the way to beat him, imo. He needs to be outslicked and Katsidis won't do that in a million years. He'll walk on to Mitchell's punches - Mitchell counters fairly well and, more importantly (most of our best boxers share this talent these days) is accurate - which I'd wager still have plenty of sting on them even at this weight.

The Johannesson fight was an off-night, just as I think the Earl fight was for Katsidis.

Maybe I'm just not sold enough on Katsidis. I like Mitchell, but I ain't a huge fan. I'll happily avatar bet anyone on this result though, if and when this scrap comes off.

antcull
02-11-2010, 08:25 AM
Earl didn't technically floor Katsidis; his gloves didn't touch the canvas and he sort of went into a squat and his arse was off the ground. Fuck knows why Vann started counting. It's not like Katsidis was hurt badly either as he went on to dominate the few rounds left. The times Katsidis has been floored have been due to his style and not a bad chin that is there to exploit. As I said, Katsidis is world-class and Mitchell's win against Prescott pales in comparison- if Mitchell wins then fair play to him as it's a huge scalp, but I don't see how anyone other than Katsidis can be favourite to win.

WTF you on? :huh Katsidis was fucked from the shot from Earl!! He was wobblin abt for ages after that shot....If Earl had jumped on him he could have stopped Katsidis for sure.

Only watched that fight 2 days ago as I'm trying to get my gay housemate into boxing :yep

Which win of Katsidis' does Mitchells win over Prescott pale in comparison too as well? Old Jesus Chavez and Escobedo?

Katsidis is clearly favourite in this but Mitchell would have a great chance in this fight and its silly to think otherwise....

NO MAS
02-11-2010, 08:31 AM
A reply to the others who questioned that post as well.

I think Katsidis is absolutely made for Mitchell. Relentless pressure ain't the way to beat him, imo. He needs to be outslicked and Katsidis won't do that in a million years. He'll walk on to Mitchell's punches - Mitchell counters fairly well and, more importantly (most of our best boxers share this talent these days) is accurate - which I'd wager still have plenty of sting on them even at this weight.

The Johannesson fight was an off-night, just as I think the Earl fight was for Katsidis.

Maybe I'm just not sold enough on Katsidis. I like Mitchell, but I ain't a huge fan. I'll happily avatar bet anyone on this result though, if and when this scrap comes off.

I am sure that Dan will have a flutter with you...:think

Losfer_Words
02-11-2010, 08:39 AM
WTF you on? :huh Katsidis was fucked from the shot from Earl!! He was wobblin abt for ages after that shot....If Earl had jumped on him he could have stopped Katsidis for sure.

Only watched that fight 2 days ago as I'm trying to get my gay housemate into boxing :yep

Which win of Katsidis' does Mitchells win over Prescott pale in comparison too as well? Old Jesus Chavez and Escobedo?

Katsidis is clearly favourite in this but Mitchell would have a great chance in this fight and its silly to think otherwise....

Although not a win, Katsisdis was within a whisker of beating the lineal champ, Casamayor, before the ref stopped the fight. I think that coupled with competing over the distance with Juan Diaz proves he's taken on and performed well against much better opposition than Mitchell. To add to that, that's all come at 135- a weight class Mitchell is still unproven in; as lovely as the win over Khan was for Prescott's exposure, aside from that what has he done to be considered as one of the world's premier fighters at 135?

As for Katsidis being hurt, what I was trying to say was that Katsidis' performance in the rounds to follow proved that he shook off the KD and he won in emphatic fashion.

Tell your gay housemate to watch some Hearns as well:good.

antcull
02-11-2010, 09:01 AM
Although not a win, Katsisdis was within a whisker of beating the lineal champ, Casamayor, before the ref stopped the fight. I think that coupled with competing over the distance with Juan Diaz proves he's taken on and performed well against much better opposition than Mitchell. To add to that, that's all come at 135- a weight class Mitchell is still unproven in; as lovely as the win over Khan was for Prescott's exposure, aside from that what has he done to be considered as one of the world's premier fighters at 135?

As for Katsidis being hurt, what I was trying to say was that Katsidis' performance in the rounds to follow proved that he shook off the KD and he won in emphatic fashion.

Tell your gay housemate to watch some Hearns as well:good.

The Casamayor performance was pretty good especially that it was his first real foray into true world class, I dont really put that much stock in competing over the distance with Diaz though.

I just dont really agree with people painting Mitchells win over Prescott as pretty much insignificant...of course Prescott was overated but if Katsidis had beaten Prescott in a similar manner to what Mitchell did then it would have been classed as one of Katisidis' best wins.....so to say that Mitchells win paled in comparision to what Katsidis has done at 135 was wrong IMO...

Hearns is a good shout for the gay housemate :good Forced the Vazquez-Marquez trillogy and Lewis-Klit on him yesterday so I might give him a break, I will make a straight man out of him yet :yep

ishy
02-11-2010, 12:02 PM
:rofl

Against Diaz, Katsidis was too timid. His trainer was trying to get him to box too much and kept telling him after each round he was doing great :patsch

I'd make Mitchell-Katsidis around 60-40 in Katsidis' favour. It's definitely a winnable fight for Kev, especially after seeing him stick to a fightplan against Prescott.