Duran vs HW ATG's

[Pachilles]

Out of this selection of heavyweights, what would a prime, Montreal version of Duran win these fights by? KO or Decision?

Duran Vs 1987 Tyson
Duran Vs 1967 Ali
Duran Vs 1995 Lewis

[Flea Man]

Duran would win a close decision against Tyson.

An Ali fight would be like the Norton fights, Ali winning a robbery :deal

Lennox is the greatest Heavy ever,beats Duran at the staredown :deal :good

[Sweet Pea]

Any fighter that came to Duran was toast, and given Tyson's mental fragility he'd end up getting TKO'd around the 8th round.

Ali used too much movement, so Duran likely would've quit in about the 7th round.

Lewis was as slow as molasses in January, so I'd have to favor Duran to give him a Palomino-esque beating.

[TheGreatA]

Tyson is a bigger Davey Moore with less heart. Duran TKO6

Ali is a slightly bigger Ray Leonard but overall not as good. Duran UD15

Lewis is no Marvin Hagler. Duran KO3

[Pachilles]

Duran would win a close decision against Tyson.

An Ali fight would be like the Norton fights, Ali winning a robbery :deal

Lennox is the greatest Heavy ever,beats Duran at the staredown :deal :good

I agree that Duran's power would trouble Tyson, though i think a 1987 prime Tyson may have the attributes to compliment his superior size, and it'd be a coin flip, but i doubt it would last the distance. I'd go with late stoppage Duran or early stoppage Tyson if he manages to catch him off gaurd(though unlikely)

However i think Duran would put a clinic on 1967 Ali, so much so that they wouldnt be able to justify a robbery. Ali may hang in there over 15 rounds, but i believe he is vastly overrated and would mostl likely succumb to the sheer volume of punches thrown by Duran in the championship rounds. TKO rd 13 Duran

Lennox Lewis vs Duran is an interesting matchup. Lewis has the size advantage but also has that shaky chin. Another coin flip for me in a fight that wouldnt last the distance

[Kalasinn]

Here are my picks:

MT: Duran TKO 11
MA: Duran UD
LL: Duran KO 5

Note: I don't feel that the 1987 Tyson was mentally fragile at all (Rooney mentally prepared him for fights), and that for his peak year 1988 is slightly better.

[McGrain]

dURRAN WOULD WIN TOO DESISONS oops caps

[I am Legion]

I can't decide if this is serious or not?

Duran gets knocked out 1st round each time. He was way out of his depth even against Hearns.

[McGrain]

I can't decide if this is serious or not?

Duran gets knocked out 1st round each time. He was way out of his depth even against Hearns.


lOL

[Flea Man]

I can't decide if this is serious or not?

Duran gets knocked out 1st round each time. He was way out of his depth even against Hearns.

Duran had an off-night against Hearns. On his best day he'd destroy Prime Tyson, as would MY MAIN MAN Terry Noz-Noz and Tony 'The Sexy Rapist' Ayala.

[Pachilles]

I can't decide if this is serious or not?

Duran gets knocked out 1st round each time. He was way out of his depth even against Hearns.

i'm not talking the shot, ill prepared Duran that Hearns fought. I'm talking Montreal Duran who licked Leonard. Tyson didn't even stop Tilliss inside the distance, how do you propose he would stop a prime Duran in the 1st round?:huh

[Sweet Pea]

McGrain's been drinking.

[McGrain]

Have not.

[cuchulain]

Well if Douglas could stop a prime Tyson, why not Duran ?

And Duran was a better fighter than Norton. So I see a UD for Hands of stone over the Greatest,


And Lewis was stopped by Rahman. The Duran that KO'd Moore would put Lennox to sleep.

[cuchulain]

McGrain's been drinking.

He's still got a few weeks left on his 8 week sabbatical.

[McGrain]

That's right!

[Kalasinn]

I'm still pondering if Pachilles is indeed joking like the rest of us...

[I am Legion]

You're right. Duran stiffs them all.
No mas.........................no mas.............................no mas
:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch

[itrymariti]

I can't decide if this is serious or not?

Let's think...

[Pachilles]

You're right. Duran stiffs them all.
No mas.........................no mas.............................no mas
:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch

lol fucking Leontards. Still butthurt over Montreal? Duran didnt train for that fight and had to starve himself to make weight and was way past his prime. And SRL didnt make him quit, he quit himself. He was actually winning by a round on two of the judges scorecards up until the incident

[cuchulain]

I'm still pondering if Pachilles is indeed joking like the rest of us...

You were joking ???

[Kalasinn]

You were joking ???
Not at all my dear fellow, I was just attempting to trip somebody up.

[Pachilles]

Not at all my dear fellow, I was just attempting to trip somebody up.

You need to get back to the General Forum.

[PowerPuncher]

Everyone knows Ali ducked Duran in the 70s, Tyson ducked him in the 80s and Lewis in the 90s

[KOTF]

tFG6Do4IcuQ

[Kalasinn]

You need to get back to the General Forum.
So I say one thing you don't approve of and I get sent off to General?
Lighten up, this is a nonsense topic made by you, seemingly for nothing serious whatsoever.

[cuchulain]

Everyone knows Ali ducked Duran in the 70s, Tyson ducked him in the 80s and Lewis in the 90s

And let's not forget how cleverly Sugar Ray Robinson ducked him by living in an earlier era.

[Bill Butcher]

Duran by close decision over Tyson, maybe tasting canvas himself but overall landing the more telling punches.

Ali by clear decision, Ali had better movement than Leonard & was faster too in a p4p sense, he`d tie Duran up inside, use that left jab a lot & outbox him from the outside, bad match-up for Duran.

Duran by KO over Lewis, different level.

[PetethePrince]

I can't decide if this is serious or not?

Duran gets knocked out 1st round each time. He was way out of his depth even against Hearns.

You're an idiot, seriously underestimate DUran and obviously have zero boxing knowledge. The new laughing stock of the forum I predict.

[Pachilles]

So I say one thing you don't approve of and I get sent off to General?
Lighten up, this is a nonsense topic made by you, seemingly for nothing serious whatsoever.

This board is for the most expert of unbias fans and most knowledgable historians P4P of all time to discuss the unmatchable careers of Roberto Duran and Harry Greb whilst discrediting every other fighter with the exception of Jeffries, Fitz and Langford, unless it is to compare them to either Duran or Greb.

We are the boxing equivalent of the essence of the Jeremy Kyle Show's host and audience combined. You are a pregnant single teenage mum on benefits, we will not lighten up. If you don't like it, like I said, go back to the General Forum. Graham will be waiting for you to talk you through the necessary steps on becoming a classic forum poster. I wish you the best of luck.

[Pachilles]

You're an idiot, seriously underestimate DUran and obviously have zero boxing knowledge. The new laughing stock of the forum I predict.

Great post from you as always Pete. I suspect this guy has only seen fights on youtube and has never heard of Jack Sarkey.

[Meast]

delete

[MAG1965]

Out of this selection of heavyweights, what would a prime, Montreal version of Duran win these fights by? KO or Decision?

Duran Vs 1987 Tyson
Duran Vs 1967 Ali
Duran Vs 1995 LewisPeople overrate Duran. Montreal was great for Duran the same as New York was to Duran with Barkley also. Those two guys gave Duran the fight he wanted and he looked great. If a guy moved and used speed Duran would look terrible and then say he didn't train.

[MAG1965]

You're an idiot, seriously underestimate DUran and obviously have zero boxing knowledge. The new laughing stock of the forum I predict.Duran could not beat the elite guys in the 1980s. He lost to all the legends at 147, 154 and 160

[Pachilles]

Duran could not beat the elite guys in the 1980s. He lost to all the legends at 147, 154 and 160

Go back and watch those fights, then go back to the General Forum. Duran was winning on points by a country mile before he was Koed by Hearns and before he quit against Leonard. The 3rd Leonard fight doesn't count because it never actually happened and the Decision loss to Hagler could've really gone either way and Duran was past prime and didnt even train for the Hagler fight.

[enquirer]

Duran KO1 jesus,buddha,muhammed and pachilles tag team....:smoke

[Stevie G]

Lady Gaga v Cheryl Cole. Not sure what weight :lol:

[Boxed Ears]

:patsch:rofl Duran KO over all in the first round after he gives them a complete boxing lesson.

[anarci]

Lennox is the greatest Heavy ever,beats Duran at the staredown :deal :good

YOu got to be joking:huh

[anarci]

Duran TKO 10 over Tyson he puts the meanest bully puts the mean bully in his place, pretty even for the first 4 rounds then Duran takes him to school and puts a beat down on Iron Mike.

Wow this is a very close one im Huge fans of both (but more Duran) A harder hitting lightweight version takes Ali. The welter version??????????? Could go either way but just imagine how fast a 67 version of Ali would be at Welter. Kind of a tossup in my opinion but if you put a gun to my head i might lean towards ALi split decision.

Lewis would win a couple rounds by keeping Duran outside (guessing Lewis would be a 6-0 Welter) but thats it Duran would beat him up and eventually knock him out. Lewis wouldnt beable to handle the heat once Duran got inside Duran ko7

[anarci]

Go back and watch those fights, then go back to the General Forum. Duran was winning on points by a country mile before he was Koed by Hearns and before he quit against Leonard. The 3rd Leonard fight doesn't count because it never actually happened and the Decision loss to Hagler could've really gone either way and Duran was past prime and didnt even train for the Hagler fight.
I havent heard from FrankenFrank in a while:huh Here is under a new Alias. :yep Just listen out for Tua,Mccall,Qawi in the future:lol:

[Pachilles]

I havent heard from FrankenFrank in a while:huh Here is under a new Alias. :yep Just listen out for Tua,Mccall,Qawi in the future:lol:

are you saying Tua could beat the Montreal version of Duran? Why dont you grow some balls, put your ESB credibility on the line and let us know exactly what you're getting at? Mccall and Qawi are not even on Duran's level. Terrible post. Laughable.:patsch

[anarci]

are you saying Tua could beat the Montreal version of Duran? Why dont you grow some balls, put your ESB credibility on the line and let us know exactly what you're getting at? Mccall and Qawi are not even on Duran's level. Terrible post. Laughable.:patsch Listen hear you dumb fuc*ing Troll. Your alter ego Frankey Frank thinks they are the greatest thing that ever lived. If you would take your Pshyce Meds you might remember that. Dont question my balls you 51/50 :nut:nutRetard!

You wanna talk about Credibility? You just got here and you have already lost yours.

[lefthook89]

i cant believe what im reading, people get the fuck over yourselves, REALLY?? duran was a fuckin blown up flyweight. i know pepole like mcgrain and fleaman are joking. but pachilles and anarci??? are you in a freshly painted room or something? those fumes are toxic ya know.

[mcvey]

Out of this selection of heavyweights, what would a prime, Montreal version of Duran win these fights by? KO or Decision?

Duran Vs 1987 Tyson
Duran Vs 1967 Ali
Duran Vs 1995 Lewis

I think the Klit Bros might be even money against The Panamanian Charles Manson, everyone else would be despatched without undue trouble.

[essexboy]

What a surreal thread.

[anarci]

i cant believe what im reading, people get the fuck over yourselves, REALLY?? duran was a fuckin blown up flyweight. i know pepole like mcgrain and fleaman are joking. but pachilles and anarci??? are you in a freshly painted room or something? those fumes are toxic ya know.
Blown up Flyweight? How do you figure:huh

Im talking about PFP matchup :patsch WTF !!:bart

[lefthook89]

i think duran sparks out george foreman, sonny liston and earnie shavers as well.:rofl:rofl:patsch

[anarci]

i think duran sparks out george foreman, sonny liston and earnie shavers as well.:rofl:rofl:patsch PFP he does:yep

[Duodenum]

All Duran has to do is wait until the referee is behind the big bodies of those huge lugs, then do a cup denting Buchanan to the body. Duran KO 1 all of them on the same night. (I'm talking about the lean, young and mean beast at 135, not the fat untrained celebrity slob in Montreal.)

[TommyV]

As God is my witness, I saw Duran put a beating on the best heavyweight of all-time in Balboa. He beats all these guys.

[Pachilles]

PFP he does:yep

We're talking H2H matchups, open weight if you will. The Duran of Montreal, in my honest opinion, is the only boxer below LHW that i'd favour to beat the ATG prime HW's. So get with the programme my little pussy fart. Or get back to the General Forum, it's one up:deal

[Pachilles]

As God is my witness, I saw Duran put a beating on the best heavyweight of all-time in Balboa. He beats all these guys.

Really? Can't see it on BoxRec:huh

[Pachilles]

i cant believe what im reading, people get the fuck over yourselves, REALLY?? duran was a fuckin blown up flyweight. i know pepole like mcgrain and fleaman are joking. but pachilles and anarci??? are you in a freshly painted room or something? those fumes are toxic ya know.

Did your mother never tell you, if you don't have anything nice to say, get back to the General Forum?

[Duodenum]

Really? Can't see it on BoxRec:huhDid you have yourself inoculated before exposing yourself to :pissboxWRECK?

[red cobra]

This must be a General Forum fantasy camp.

[lefthook89]

Did your mother never tell you, if you don't have anything nice to say, get back to the General Forum?

i guess i listen to my father more than my mother, because he tells me to recognize an ignorant SOB when i come across one lol. again, his words not mine.

[Pachilles]

Did you have yourself inoculated before exposing yourself to :pissboxWRECK?
BoxRec is unreliable, like youtube. And Harry Greb looks mesmerising on film.

Lounge is one down:deal

[Joe]

:lol:

[Pachilles]

i guess i listen to my father more than my mother, because he tells me to recognize an ignorant SOB when i come across one lol. again, his words not mine.

What are you getting at? We have different opinions. Why not put yourself out there if you disagree, and tell me how Tyson, Ali or Lewis might be able to defeat a prime Montreal Duran? Size isn't everything, and Duran moved up several weights whilst past his prime and defeated the best fighters the divisions had to offer, past his prime.

[TommyV]

Really? Can't see it on BoxRec:huh

This was sparring, but both guys were going full-out. Duran was always in control and showed to be the superior fighter and he took Balboa's punches with ease. Not that he was caught that often.

[I am Legion]

You're an idiot, seriously underestimate DUran and obviously have zero boxing knowledge. The new laughing stock of the forum I predict.

At least it takes the heat off you

:good:good:happy:happy

[I am Legion]

Great post from you as always Pete. I suspect this guy has only seen fights on youtube and has never heard of Jack Sarkey.
Who the fuck is Jack Sharkey? and the what hell is Youtube?

:think:think:think:think:think:think

[Pachilles]

Who the fuck is Jack Sharkey? and the what hell is Youtube?

:think:think:think:think:think:think

:huh.......dada dum dum, dum dum, dum dum, dum dum...

On the Classic Forum Tyson is a bum. Sharkey fought before the War so, he would've won. Fought before the War so, he would've won

dada dum dum, dum dum, dum dum, dum dum...

Lewis was around in 2001. Sharkey fought before the War so, he would've won. fought before the War so, he would've won.

dada dum dum, dum dum, dum dum, dum dum...

Roberto Duran is the only ex-cep-tion. He fought after the war but, he still won. After the war but, he still won.

dada dum dum, dum dum, dum dum, dum dum...

Im fully aware this is annoying to some. But Duran is vastly overrated, and its fun. Vastly overrated, you make it fun.

[I am Legion]

:huh.......dada dum dum, dum dum, dum dum, dum dum...

On the Classic Forum Tyson is a bum. Sharkey fought before the War so, he would've won. Fought before the War so, he would've won

dada dum dum, dum dum, dum dum, dum dum...

Lewis was around in 2001. Sharkey fought before the War so, he would've won. fought before the War so, he would've won.

dada dum dum, dum dum, dum dum, dum dum...

Roberto Duran is the only ex-cep-tion. He fought after the war but, he still won. After the war but, he still won.

dada dum dum, dum dum, dum dum, dum dum...

Im fully aware this is annoying to some. But Duran is vastly overrated, and its fun. Vastly overrated, you make it fun.

Oh, I get it now..........you're being ironic.

As soon as I realised I nearly shat myself laughing!!!!!!

What a card you are!
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[Gesta]

I can't decide if this is serious or not?

Duran gets knocked out 1st round each time. He was way out of his depth even against Hearns.

:lol::lol::lol:

No way Duran loses to any of those bums, let alone gets knocked out.

:!::!::!:

[anarci]

We're talking H2H matchups, open weight if you will. The Duran of Montreal, in my honest opinion, is the only boxer below LHW that i'd favour to beat the ATG prime HW's. So get with the programme my little pussy fart. Or get back to the General Forum, it's one up:deal Actually if you went to the General Forum, you would still be the worst troll:yep
Pussy Fart:huh Oh you mean last night when i was at your house.:nono Sorry those sounds were coming from your Mom,didnt think you heard that.

[MAG1965]

Go back and watch those fights, then go back to the General Forum. Duran was winning on points by a country mile before he was Koed by Hearns and before he quit against Leonard. The 3rd Leonard fight doesn't count because it never actually happened and the Decision loss to Hagler could've really gone either way and Duran was past prime and didnt even train for the Hagler fight.Your post has to be a joke post. Duran was winning on points vs. Hearns? Maybe that was a typing error because Tommy knocked down Duran two times in round one and then knocked out in round 2. The 3rd Duran fight does count since Ray was getting older than and people give Duran credit for beating a non-great like Iran Barkley a few months before, then Ray outclasses him again which shows how Duran does well on the inside but if a guy like Benitez or Hearns or Leonard fight him on the outside he loses easily. I always thought a guy Duran might have done ok with is Benn or Dewitt. Michael Olajide at 160 outpoints Duran. Yeah Olajide. Tate and Nunn would have easily beaten Duran in 1989. Barkley was made for him. The top guys who could fight outside outclassed Duran. Duran didn't train for Hagler? Well that makes sense since Duran always said he didn't train for Leonard fight 2 or Hearns or Benitez. So now he didn't train for Hagler means he didn't train for the 4 legends of the 1980's he fought, yet somehow he found the motivation to train for Moore and Barkley. Duran fought 17 years after the Hearns fight and 35 more times. . All the legends of the 1980's beat Duran at lower weights where Duran fought several times, and this thread is about Duran beating Lennox Lewis or Tyson or Ali????

[MAG1965]

What are you getting at? We have different opinions. Why not put yourself out there if you disagree, and tell me how Tyson, Ali or Lewis might be able to defeat a prime Montreal Duran? Size isn't everything, and Duran moved up several weights whilst past his prime and defeated the best fighters the divisions had to offer, past his prime.You really believe Duran beat the best fighters of all the divisions? Duran could not win any rounds against those guys at heavyweight.

[KTFO]

Duran TKO10 Tyson
Ali 'No Mas 6' Duran
Duran KO12 Lewis

[duran duran]

fleaman lewis the greatest heavyweight ever who did he ever beat a washed up shot to bits tyson a fading holyfield ruddock was finished so was tucker the nearest he beat to a top class heavyweight at their peak was tua he was given a gift against mercer and when mccall was mentally fit to fight he knocked lewis out in 2 rounds lewis should be rated anywhere around the 9 to 15 mark

[Pachilles]

Actually if you went to the General Forum, you would still be the worst troll:yep
Pussy Fart:huh Oh you mean last night when i was at your house.:nono Sorry those sounds were coming from your Mom,didnt think you heard that.

Well actually i'm probably the best troll across all boards, or atleast the most promising prospect. Although my post count lacks depth its not at all padded and the topics i've touched are not exactly cherrypicked. Maybe i'm a little raw in the technical departments but my style is aesthetically pleasing.

[bernie4366]

Oh I'm loving this thread.

Duran KTFO any fighter of any weight class and time period, ever. In the first round.

If he doesn't, he didn't train right.

[ripcity]

1987 Tyson
1967 Ali
1995 Lewis
All win within the first round. Tyson & Lewis within the fist :60

[Mantequilla]

Well actually i'm probably the best troll across all boards, or atleast the most promising prospect. Although my post count lacks depth its not at all padded and the topics i've touched are not exactly cherrypicked. Maybe i'm a little raw in the technical departments but my style is aesthetically pleasing.


Sadly most of these simpletons don't even realise you are trolling.

This board has really gone to shit recently.

[MAG1965]

Oh I'm loving this thread.

Duran KTFO any fighter of any weight class and time period, ever. In the first round.

If he doesn't, he didn't train right.That pretty much is the story. And somewhere along the way he lost to all the ATG fighters he fought.

[Gesta]

That pretty much is the story. And somewhere along the way he lost to all the ATG fighters he fought.

Still better than Leonard tho'

:lol::lol::lol:

[MAG1965]

Still better than Leonard tho'

:lol::lol::lol:How he lost to him 2 times. And Ray made his quit and beat him much more than Duran beat Ray. Ray fought Duran at his own fight and Duran barely won. Ray is the greater fighter. He beat Duran and 3 other ATG fighters. There should be no doubt.

[Gesta]

How he lost to him 2 times. And Ray made his quit and beat him much more than Duran beat Ray. Ray fought Duran at his own fight and Duran barely won. Ray is the greater fighter. He beat Duran and 3 other ATG fighters. There should be no doubt.


:lol::lol::lol:

Sounds like you dislike Duran as much as I do Leonard.

[Sister Sledge]

Out of this selection of heavyweights, what would a prime, Montreal version of Duran win these fights by? KO or Decision?

Duran Vs 1987 Tyson
Duran Vs 1967 Ali
Duran Vs 1995 Lewis

Montreal Duran was near omnipotent. Roberto would is proof that size doesn't matter.

Against Tyson, I see Tyson coming out and trying to intimidate Duran by jumping right on him and reigning down blows on his much smaller opponent. After Tyson lands his famed left hook to the body and head, which would have zero effect on Duran, Michael would realise he is in with an irresistable force, and crap his pants. Referee would smell that something is amiss, call foul, and give the fight to Duran by disqualification.

Prior to fighting 67 Ali, Duran would tell Ali he's gonna buttfuck Elihah Muhamed after he wins, and that Malcolm X's real name was Harvey Schwartz. Enraged, Ali would try to go toe-to-toe with Duran and this would be costly because of Duran's ability to slip punches and fire back. Fighting this way would clearly not be in Ali's best interest and Duran would maul him and rough him up. Ali would make a valient effort to come back, using his nine inch height advantage and 15 inch reach advantage, but it would not be enough. Duran by 15 round UD.

Against Lewis, Duran would be the much quicker guy. The only advantage Lewis would have is 10 inches in height, 93 pounds in weight, and 17 inches in reach. Duran would get under his reach and bore in like a tick. It Lewis would be swinging for the fences, but Duran would finish him in 2 after scoring with 75 unanswered blows to the head.

[MAG1965]

:lol::lol::lol:

Sounds like you dislike Duran as much as I do Leonard.I don't know. I think he was dominant at lightweight in a rather mediocre era and he had power and great skills, but nothing to rank him top fighter ATg. What I argue about is that the only ATG he ever beat was Ray Leonard. And he lost the rematch and rubber match easily and Ray wins the head to head matchup, and still his fans turn facts around to say he was the top 3 fighter ever since Sugar Ray Robinson. I don't see it. I respect all the opinions of you guys and you make good points, but in my mind he comes up short compared to how he really should be rated. It is just a matter of opinions and who believes what. I do not hate Duran since I do not know him personally. It is more how his fans make him sound so dominant and great. My objective reasoning never could accept how high he is ranked. For the ranking he gets he should have been able to move up and beat Benitez and Hearns. For that ranking.

[teeto]

Out of this selection of heavyweights, what would a prime, Montreal version of Duran win these fights by? KO or Decision?

Duran Vs 1987 Tyson
Duran Vs 1967 Ali
Duran Vs 1995 Lewis

I'm clearly late but:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[teeto]

Hahahahaha what a thread

[teeto]

Did i mention hahahaha what a thread

[guilalah]

Duran ouclasses the big guys.

Only Bruce Lee beats Duran.

[Stevie G]

For the second time - Lady Ga ga v Cheryl Cole. Tough one to call.

[Addie]

No fighter in any weight division that has ever existed could beat Montreal Duran. For that one night, Duran was unbeatable, he stopped training after that and that's why Leonard was able to land a glove of him in the rematch.

[motorcity cobra]

this is the funniest thread I have ever read. Thank you esb.....wtf

[Pachilles]

Duran ouclasses the big guys.

Only Bruce Lee beats Duran.

How do you figure? Bruce Lee wasn't even good enough to live as long as Duran's career lasted and longevity is the key factor in H2H. Jeet Kun Do Forum is, not even on this website:deal

[Pachilles]

No fighter in any weight division that has ever existed could beat Montreal Duran. For that one night, Duran was unbeatable, he stopped training after that and that's why Leonard was able to land a glove of him in the rematch.

What about prime Toronto Greb?

[enquirer]

Or prime phillipino pac?:smoke:smoke

[Pachilles]

Or prime phillipino pac?:smoke:smoke

Pacman's sack is absolutely nowhere near as elastic, trust me, i know

[TommyV]

i can't decide if this is serious or not?

Duran gets knocked out 1st round each time. He was way out of his depth even against hearns.

fail.

174lb light-heavy duran who beat david radford can beat tyson by decision, if and i mean if, he isn't bullied in the first 5 rounds [but his is very very likely] when tyson has energy and is a dangerous slugger and duran boxes carefully, uses defence and keeps moving, his heart will pull him to victory and make tyson fearful. But duran will be badly hurt for life if he makes it to the end.
Ali gets ko4 duran or earlier.
Lewis gets ko2 duran or ealier.

fail.

i cant believe what im reading, people get the fuck over yourselves, really?? Duran was a fuckin blown up flyweight. I know pepole like mcgrain and fleaman are joking. But pachilles and anarci??? Are you in a freshly painted room or something? Those fumes are toxic ya know.

fail.

your post has to be a joke post. Duran was winning on points vs. Hearns? Maybe that was a typing error because tommy knocked down duran two times in round one and then knocked out in round 2. The 3rd duran fight does count since ray was getting older than and people give duran credit for beating a non-great like iran barkley a few months before, then ray outclasses him again which shows how duran does well on the inside but if a guy like benitez or hearns or leonard fight him on the outside he loses easily. I always thought a guy duran might have done ok with is benn or dewitt. Michael olajide at 160 outpoints duran. Yeah olajide. Tate and nunn would have easily beaten duran in 1989. Barkley was made for him. The top guys who could fight outside outclassed duran. Duran didn't train for hagler? Well that makes sense since duran always said he didn't train for leonard fight 2 or hearns or benitez. So now he didn't train for hagler means he didn't train for the 4 legends of the 1980's he fought, yet somehow he found the motivation to train for moore and barkley. Duran fought 17 years after the hearns fight and 35 more times. . All the legends of the 1980's beat duran at lower weights where duran fought several times, and this thread is about duran beating lennox lewis or tyson or ali????

fail.

you really believe duran beat the best fighters of all the divisions? Duran could not win any rounds against those guys at heavyweight.

fail.

1987 tyson
1967 ali
1995 lewis
all win within the first round. Tyson & lewis within the fist :60

fail.

[enquirer]

The big question i want answering is could a t-rex (no,not corey sanders,the original T.) last a full 15 for robertos 147 crown? I mean assuming that the deity that is duran is not neglecting his training by his need to assemble his time machine to make this routine defense possible....?
Duran tko 3....

[TommyV]

The big question i want answering is could a t-rex (no,not corey sanders,the original T.) last a full 15 for robertos 147 crown? I mean assuming that the deity that is duran is not neglecting his training by his need to assemble his time machine to make this routine defense possible....?
Duran tko 3....

There's no way it would make 147.

[DDA365]

:huh.......dada dum dum, dum dum, dum dum, dum dum...

On the Classic Forum Tyson is a bum. Sharkey fought before the War so, he would've won. Fought before the War so, he would've won

dada dum dum, dum dum, dum dum, dum dum...

Lewis was around in 2001. Sharkey fought before the War so, he would've won. fought before the War so, he would've won.

dada dum dum, dum dum, dum dum, dum dum...

Roberto Duran is the only ex-cep-tion. He fought after the war but, he still won. After the war but, he still won.

dada dum dum, dum dum, dum dum, dum dum...

Im fully aware this is annoying to some. But Duran is vastly overrated, and its fun. Vastly overrated, you make it fun.
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[DDA365]

The big question i want answering is could a t-rex (no,not corey sanders,the original T.) last a full 15 for robertos 147 crown? I mean assuming that the deity that is duran is not neglecting his training by his need to assemble his time machine to make this routine defense possible....?
Duran tko 3....
Oh come on. Youre just being ridiculous now, getting too silly. :bart

Have you seen a T-rexs arms? Theyre tiny.

So Duran will actually have a reach advantage which he didnt have when he moved up in weight past his prime past his prime, not to mention the T-rexs total lack of defence - a recipe for disaster when facing Durans power. Duran KO1 unless he decides to string it out for a bit.

[Pachilles]

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haha i was referring to i fought the law, but this little beauty of an episode is probably alot more appropriate

[Gesta]

I don't know. I think he was dominant at lightweight in a rather mediocre era and he had power and great skills, but nothing to rank him top fighter ATg. What I argue about is that the only ATG he ever beat was Ray Leonard. And he lost the rematch and rubber match easily and Ray wins the head to head matchup, and still his fans turn facts around to say he was the top 3 fighter ever since Sugar Ray Robinson. I don't see it. I respect all the opinions of you guys and you make good points, but in my mind he comes up short compared to how he really should be rated. It is just a matter of opinions and who believes what. I do not hate Duran since I do not know him personally. It is more how his fans make him sound so dominant and great. My objective reasoning never could accept how high he is ranked. For the ranking he gets he should have been able to move up and beat Benitez and Hearns. For that ranking.

Well it would be pretty boring if every one had the same point of view.

:good:good:good

[MAG1965]

Well it would be pretty boring if every one had the same point of view.

:good:good:goodThat is true, and in all honesty my opinion is in the minority. Most people think Duran is a top 5-10 ATG. So my opinion really is just an opinion. Fact is without Duran boxing would have been much worse. We need all the great boxers to make up boxing history.

[Pachilles]

He is all wrong for them

[DKD]

This is P4P, right?

Duran beats Tyson and Lewis, with a good chance of stopping both.

Ali has the type of style that Duran struggled with, but he's still capable of a decision.

Duran is among the very best and one of the most natural fighters ever.

[teeto]

This is P4P, right?

Duran beats Tyson and Lewis, with a good chance of stopping both.

Ali has the type of style that Duran struggled with, but he's still capable of a decision.

Duran is among the very best and one of the most natural fighters ever.
It's not p4p, it's just the thread starter being an ass

[Pachilles]

Duran TKO 10 over Tyson he puts the meanest bully puts the mean bully in his place, pretty even for the first 4 rounds then Duran takes him to school and puts a beat down on Iron Mike.

Wow this is a very close one im Huge fans of both (but more Duran) A harder hitting lightweight version takes Ali. The welter version??????????? Could go either way but just imagine how fast a 67 version of Ali would be at Welter. Kind of a tossup in my opinion but if you put a gun to my head i might lean towards ALi split decision.

Lewis would win a couple rounds by keeping Duran outside (guessing Lewis would be a 6-0 Welter) but thats it Duran would beat him up and eventually knock him out. Lewis wouldnt beable to handle the heat once Duran got inside Duran ko7

:lol:Well done Animal from LOD

[DKD]

It's not p4p, it's just the thread starter being an ass
Doesn't matter - Duran still wins.

[thegoldenera]

Everyone knows Ali ducked Duran in the 70s, Tyson ducked him in the 80s and Lewis in the 90s
:lol:

[MAG1965]

Tyson is a bigger Davey Moore with less heart. Duran TKO6

Ali is a slightly bigger Ray Leonard but overall not as good. Duran UD15

Lewis is no Marvin Hagler. Duran KO3All those guys are ATG fighters, so with that in mind Duran never stopped an ATG fighter in his whole career. The only ATG Duran beat was Ray, and Ray easily beat him in the rematch.

[MAG1965]

No fighter in any weight division that has ever existed could beat Montreal Duran. For that one night, Duran was unbeatable, he stopped training after that and that's why Leonard was able to land a glove of him in the rematch.Ray fighting the right fight beats Duran on that night. Easily.

[MAG1965]

Duran should have fought as a heavyweight. Then he couldn't have had the excuses of losing the important fights he had because of weight problems. He might have had to come up with some other ridiculous excuses like he ate 2 big steaks and drank a gallon of water right before the fight.

[thegoldenera]

i would love TO SEE the very fast version of duran lw against young foreman, it would be similar to foreman vs peralta , only 1 difFerence, duran would hit foreman even in the floor and he would insult him "hijo de puta" pendejo" cabronazo" . ROBERTO DURÁN IS TOO BIG FOR THE BOXING, HE WOULD KILL ANYONE. HW,LHW,MW,LW... I S NOT MATTER THE WEIGHT, DURAN WOULD KILL ALL THEM

[red cobra]

Duran would deck Foreman with a jab and then ko the still woozy grill salesman with a left hook. Duran Hoooooooooooooooook!!!!!!!

[DKD]

I'd like to see Duran in slickster mode out dancing and out jabbing SNV.

Tough fight; even for Duran.