Frankie Gavin

[Leo Ross]

Thats just the type of opponent he needed tonight, tremendous result for the lad. He's got all the ability in the world and a few 8 rounders and onto the British title. The best prospect we've got IMO. Well done.

[gasman]

Gavin looked very good - he is making excellent progress and like you say that was a very good opponent for him at this stage

[hitman_hatton1]

agree with gavin at the end concerning lenny daws.

i think he's got the style to beat him soundly enough.

[Sibbo]

Frankie looks a real class act and tonight was no different. Looking forward to seeing him move up the rankings over the next few years.

[Leo Ross]

He looked sharp, used his feet well and dominated against a very decent durable opponent. I'd like him to use his jab a bit more but thats being picky. He'll box the head off moxt at british level now but theres no need to rush him.

[royalt0208]

Im gunna do my favorite game immaginary matchmaker :good

I would like Frankie to take on one out of Barry Morrison, Rob Hunt or Mihailu Mutu next all are decent opporators and another decent little step up or in the case of Morrison or Mutu big steps up.

[Smudger]

Uri Geller didn't work!?

Holy moly Frankie is superhuman or something :scaredas:

[john b]

Missed the fight was he really that good out of the three with degale and saunders is he the shining light?

[NO MAS]

Frankie Gavin is going to rule the roost...:yep

He is going to develop into a fantastic professional...:good

[Fighting Weight]

With that badge on his shorts, I hope they stick him in with Pac for his next fight, the blue nosed cunt :twisted:

[GazOC]

Zulu! Zulu! Zulu! Zulu!

[Mandanda]

At first i was impressed with him. Last two fights i seen the mistakes he made go away and he moves sweetly. He's got a long way to go but if he keeps improving and works on the skills that will pay his bills he can go on to win a version of world title. The lad's style is refreshing to see from a British boxer nowadays. As said you can see he's a sweet pea fan.

[boxingscience]

very crap opponent. all he did was come forward in straight lines and was easy target. gavin should stop that sort of opponent rather easily, and gavin did try. not that impressed. a lot better performance from degale, now he showed power and very good lateral movement. hopefully gavin will reach worldlclass level, but won't be too surprised if he doesn't.

[Beeston Brawler]

I thought the opponent was fine.

He came to try to win, threw plenty back and was simply dealt with easily. Better that than a punchbag that allows Gavin to do all the showboating he wants.

I'd look at getting him 8 or 10 rounds next time out against a similar level opponent, rather than another 6 against a better guy.

After that, stick him in with whoever is the English or British champ.

[boxingscience]

I thought the opponent was fine.

He came to try to win, threw plenty back and was simply dealt with easily. Better that than a punchbag that allows Gavin to do all the showboating he wants.

I'd look at getting him 8 or 10 rounds next time out against a similar level opponent, rather than another 6 against a better guy.

After that, stick him in with whoever is the English or British champ.

he was a human punching bag, he came in straight lines, he had a poor defense, and should of been stopped. i think at the moment you guys are over estimating frankie.

[trotter]

Well we have to see him against better oppo but it's clear he's got class, bags of it

[onourway]

He gets hit too much.

[Tony Bellew]

he was a human punching bag, he came in straight lines, he had a poor defense, and should of been stopped. i think at the moment you guys are over estimating frankie.


The opponent was a step up!! Fact!! No one beats McDonugh abd takes every single round, Frankie didn't go all out for the stoppage, He boxed to orders and boxed beautifully at times, Peter couldn't nail him and lets face it he has given everyone else who he's fought a good fight but with Frankie he looked a million levels below him!!

Frankie is the best skilled prospect in the country and is fighting guys with good records already, I don't see how you can say people are over estimating Frankie when he stands alone as Britains ONLY world am champ?? You look at the best fighter in Britain and he comes in in straight lines and soaks up everything (Daws)..

I think you give McDonaugh no credit, The guys beat various decent fighters and has fought for and won a few titles yet Frankie has just completly shut him out and given him a boxing lesson for the first time in his career, Great achivement if you ask me for a guy in only his 6th pro outing..:good

[boxingscience]

The opponent was a step up!! Fact!! No one beats McDonugh abd takes every single round, Frankie didn't go all out for the stoppage, He boxed to orders and boxed beautifully at times, Peter couldn't nail him and lets face it he has given everyone else who he's fought a good fight but with Frankie he looked a million levels below him!!

Frankie is the best skilled prospect in the country and is fighting guys with good records already, I don't see how you can say people are over estimating Frankie when he stands alone as Britains ONLY world am champ?? You look at the best fighter in Britain and he comes in in straight lines and soaks up everything (Daws)..

I think you give McDonaugh no credit, The guys beat various decent fighters and has fought for and won a few titles yet Frankie has just completly shut him out and given him a boxing lesson for the first time in his career, Great achivement if you ask me for a guy in only his 6th pro outing..:good

frankie is good, you don't become the amateur he was without being good, but i haven't been as impressed with his pro performances as some of you guys on here, and i don't think gavin will accomplish as much as a pro either. he might win a world title, but i don't think he'll ever become the number one champion.

[Tony Bellew]

frankie is good, you don't become the amateur he was without being good, but i haven't been as impressed with his pro performances as some of you guys on here, and i don't think gavin will accomplish as much as a pro either. he might win a world title, but i don't think he'll ever become the number one champion.


That's very hard to achieve BUT Frankie definitly can.. Too many skills not to.. He also has a great chin so there's nothing to worry about on that side of things, Just a bit more experince and he'll be there, These guys aren't even catching Frankie!!

[boxingscience]

That's very hard to achieve BUT Frankie definitly can.. Too many skills not to.. He also has a great chin so there's nothing to worry about on that side of things, Just a bit more experince and he'll be there, These guys aren't even catching Frankie!!

they are catching him. frankie got caught a couple of times last night, he even had a mark under his eyes to prove it. like i said, i see different than you do.

[kosaros]

they are catching him. frankie got caught a couple of times last night, he even had a mark under his eyes to prove it. like i said, i see different than you do.

Did you see the punchstats though? I'm not entirely sure I can remember properly, but I think he had been hit like 8 times after 3 rounds, and he certainly doesn't get hit THAT much.

Plus, didn't Frankie say the mark under his eye was due to a clash of heads?

Edit: I think McDonagh hit him with 8% of his punches, not 8 punches - but still impressive :deal

[WATERBOY]

frankie is good, you don't become the amateur he was without being good, but i haven't been as impressed with his pro performances as some of you guys on here, and i don't think gavin will accomplish as much as a pro either. he might win a world title, but i don't think he'll ever become the number one champion.

frankie could shut out daws an this prick wouldn't be happy look at all his other posts about him the guy just doesn't like him!

[boxingscience]

Did you see the punchstats though? I'm not entirely sure I can remember properly, but I think he had been hit like 8 times after 3 rounds, and he certainly doesn't get hit THAT much.

Plus, didn't Frankie say the mark under his eye was due to a clash of heads?

he's not getting hit often, he's a good defensive boxer, but my post was due to a poster saying they're not catching him, and i'm saying they are, even if it's not frequently.

like i said, i wasn't as impressed as others, and i might be proven right in how i rate gavin, i also might be proven right. it's what makes boxing so great.

[boxingscience]

frankie could shut out daws an this prick wouldn't be happy look at all his other posts about him the guy just doesn't like him!

not true, i do like gavin, but i don't let that effect how i view his performances. i'm not a hater put it that way. a fighter as good as gavin is should stop that sort of opponent, he should be landing so many clean punches the ref would have no choice but to stop it, but that didn't happen.

[kosaros]

not true, i do like gavin, but i don't let that effect how i view his performances. i'm not a hater put it that way. a fighter as good as gavin is should stop that sort of opponent, he should be landing so many clean punches the ref would have no choice but to stop it, but that didn't happen.

The only time McDonagh has ever been stopped was due to a injury.

[boxingscience]

The only time McDonagh has ever been stopped was due to a injury.

yes, but frankie is going to be so great, and greatness should show what ordinary fighters can't achieve quite early in a fighters career. this mcdonagh hasn't fought any prospect regarded as highly as frankie gavin. i expect to see why he's rated so highly by doing things that haven't been done before. mcdonaugh has lost every round previously before to guys who have lost like 65 fights before. mcdonaugh is not very good.

[hitandhope]

I think you give McDonaugh no credit, The guys beat various decent fighters and has fought for and won a few titles yet Frankie has just completly shut him out and given him a boxing lesson for the first time in his career, Great achivement if you ask me for a guy in only his 6th pro outing..:good

Exactly. Mac gives a good fight to everyone. This forum is getting full of people willing to call good fighters bums, crap, hopeless etc. If it isn't glass-jawed, it's shot, or crude. You'll very often see Hatton and Froch described as having no skill whatsoever. I mean, facking hell. :lol:

Frankie's looking great. He's not got Mr Bellew's KO power but that just means we'll have good value and long fights when he gets to world level. :happy Whereas when the Smashing Machine fights, we can't blink...

[kosaros]

yes, but frankie is going to be so great, and greatness should show what ordinary fighters can't achieve quite early in a fighters career. this mcdonagh hasn't fought any prospect regarded as highly as frankie gavin. i expect to see why he's rated so highly by doing things that haven't been done before. mcdonaugh has lost every round previously before to guys who have lost like 65 fights before. mcdonaugh is not very good.

Floyd Mayweather didn't stop this guy in his 2nd fight:

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I wonder if people thought Mayweather wouldn't be all that great because he didn't knock out this guy? :think

Plus I haven't seen every McDonagh card, but the ones that are displayed on Boxrec show he has never been completely shutout before. He has at least had a share or won rounds in his other fights.

[Mazallan]

Peter McDonagh is a great opponent for any prospect and a real credit to the sport. Gavin looked class and will hopefully be ready to fight Lynes, Barnes and the rest by the end of the year depending on how often he fights.

[StevenB]

I thought Frankie was brilliant last night. I was sat pretty close and he was two or three steps ahead of McDonagh...at some points it almost looked like Frankie was waiting for McDonagh catch up! His body punching was fantastic too.

He did an absolute number on him.

Time for someone like Lynes next I think...he's ready now :bbb

[jdawg]

Perspective please!!! Mcdonagh took the current british champ daws to a CLOSE decision. He took soon to be euro challenger scott lawton to a CLOSE decsion. He stops michael gomez in 5. Then comes Frankie gavin in his 6th pro fight (!) and frankie takes every round off him, 1st guy to do that. Aka he HAS done something that other mcdonagh opponents havent. Im not gettin carried away but as it stands Frankie has the skills, the temperament, the boxing brain to succeed domestically right now. Anything further than that, sure we're just speculating. Potential is sure as hell there though

[achillesthegreat]

Perfect opponent. The guy comes to fight even if he is being out classed. That gives Gavin the right sort of rounds. Gavin dominated by got in 6 quality rounds against a live opponent. McD is a sort of domestic Augustus.

Put Gavin in an 8 rounder or straight in there with Williams for the English title. One defence and then I think he is ready to take on Daws for the British. By 10 fights he would be more than ready.

Gavin is a pro fighter. He moves between the back foot and front foot easily, he can fight on the inside and he can fight hard for every minute. He is always looking for the ko which I love.

[Brummy1976]

With that badge on his shorts, I hope they stick him in with Pac for his next fight, the blue nosed cunt :twisted:Shut it fanny:lol:

[dannylatics]

Another superb performance for Frankie. Been to 4 of his 6 fights and he is clearly improving every fight.

Get off his back. Some of you lot are so unreal its untrue. Back the lad FFS

Keep it up Frankie. Future world champion fo sho

[rooq]

frankie is good, you don't become the amateur he was without being good, but i haven't been as impressed with his pro performances as some of you guys on here, and i don't think gavin will accomplish as much as a pro either. he might win a world title, but i don't think he'll ever become the number one champion.

you think he might win a world title, but this isn't accomplishing much as a pro?

your standards are high...

[Leo Ross]

Perfect opponent. The guy comes to fight even if he is being out classed. That gives Gavin the right sort of rounds. Gavin dominated by got in 6 quality rounds against a live opponent. McD is a sort of domestic Augustus.

Put Gavin in an 8 rounder or straight in there with Williams for the English title. One defence and then I think he is ready to take on Daws for the British. By 10 fights he would be more than ready.

Gavin is a pro fighter. He moves between the back foot and front foot easily, he can fight on the inside and he can fight hard for every minute. He is always looking for the ko which I love.
Totally agree with you mate, if people are questioning McDonagh as a live opponent then they know nothing about boxing. To fight him at this stage showed that he is well thought of in the gym as McDonagh always comes to fight, has a great chin and plenty of experience. Id be chuffed to bits if I was frankie, another top performance and he is improving all the time.

[essexboy]

He looks a class act, very impressive, looks like hes been a pro for years. Looking forward to seeing how he does against better competition.

[NO MAS]

With that badge on his shorts, I hope they stick him in with Pac for his next fight, the blue nosed cunt :twisted:

Who do you follow Fighting Weight...?

Where did you get your avatar pic from, it's awesome...:happy

[HitmanHatton]

That's very hard to achieve BUT Frankie definitly can.. Too many skills not to.. He also has a great chin so there's nothing to worry about on that side of things, Just a bit more experince and he'll be there, These guys aren't even catching Frankie!!

What were Frankie Gavin and the other guy saying to each other in the ring, looked like they were having a right barney lol?

[Strike]

f and i don't think gavin will accomplish as much as a pro either. he might win a world title


:lol::lol:

No disrespect mate, but do you know how stupid that sounds? He "wont achieve much as a pro" followed by "he might win a world title".
What I find odd is that you think Degale has looked better. Slapping his way through worse opposition rather than showing genuine improvements and sound technique as Gavin has.

[boxingscience]

:lol::lol:

No disrespect mate, but do you know how stupid that sounds? He "wont achieve much as a pro" followed by "he might win a world title".
What I find odd is that you think Degale has looked better. Slapping his way through worse opposition rather than showing genuine improvements and sound technique as Gavin has.

i think he'll win a world title, i think he's good enough for that. a lot of people expect a lot more, even greatness level, and i don't think he'll achieve that much. i worded my origninal post wrong as i was rushing, and yes reading it, it did seem stupid, so sorry for all the confusion lads. i think he's good enough to win a world title, put it that way.

[Kid Lucky]

Was well impressed with his balance and with his foot movement punch placement.

One thing that I do like with Frankie is that he's a boxer. Most times Britain has a prospect they need to lead with their face and pay no attention to defence as they're outclassing stiffs.

The usual alternative is a Ingle swith hitter. Frankie looks to have something difference to that.

[leighton]

Frankie was great last night. Out of him and the other ******s fighters he is the best of his olympians boxers that he has. Great preformace to go with against a decent fighter at his stage its a good win.

[icemax]

very crap opponent. all he did was come forward in straight lines and was easy target. gavin should stop that sort of opponent rather easily, and gavin did try. not that impressed. a lot better performance from degale, now he showed power and very good lateral movement. hopefully gavin will reach worldlclass level, but won't be too surprised if he doesn't.

If DeGale trys that ducking below the waist shite against a decent opponent with a bit of power he will end up in hospital.

[icemax]

I thought the opponent was fine.

He came to try to win, threw plenty back and was simply dealt with easily. Better that than a punchbag that allows Gavin to do all the showboating he wants.

I'd look at getting him 8 or 10 rounds next time out against a similar level opponent, rather than another 6 against a better guy.

After that, stick him in with whoever is the English or British champ.

Stick him in against Lee Purdy...I know he is a welter but McDonagh came in nearly at the WW limit:deal

[boxingscience]

If DeGale trys that ducking below the waist shite against a decent opponent with a bit of power he will end up in hospital.

he was showing off, i don't think he'll do it like that once he moves up another level, but it showed he uses lateral movement, and i like that, it's what is going downhill in boxing. a lot of people are easy targets, and degale is showing he's going to be a bit of a harder target to hit. i think degale is going to go quite far. took the two punches very well aswell, and they landed right on the button. that was a worry, but he took them.

[boxingscience]

Stick him in against Lee Purdy...I know he is a welter but McDonagh came in nearly at the WW limit:deal

gavin hasn't even fought as a light welterweight yet. put him in with welterweights if he's going to fight at welterweight.

[kosaros]

gavin hasn't even fought as a light welterweight yet. put him in with welterweights if he's going to fight at welterweight.

Fighters always fight a couple of pounds over their weight when they are not fighting for titles.

[DON1]

He gets hit too much.

I agree.
Very good fighter but he looks like he will hit the canvas a few times against bigget punchers.

[icemax]

....

[boxingscience]

Fighters always fight a couple of pounds over their weight when they are not fighting for titles.

i know, but what i'm saying is he's fighting at welter at the moment, so why worry about him fighting welters? gavin is a big light welterweight.

[icemax]

he was showing off,

It looks shite, and is illegal...try that against anyone decent and he'll get an "accidental" crack at the back of the neck

[icemax]

gavin hasn't even fought as a light welterweight yet. put him in with welterweights if he's going to fight at welterweight.

I think thast you have misunderstood my post...Purdy is the welterweight

[boxingscience]

It looks shite, and is illegal...try that against anyone decent and he'll get an "accidental" crack at the back of the neck

many fighters have done that in the pro ranks, i know at amateur they're a lot stricter on that.

it doesn't look shite when it comes off.

[icemax]

it doesn't look shite when it comes off.

When what comes off?...he was crouched down like he was taking a dump or looking for his contact lens

[boxingscience]

When what comes off?...he was crouched down like he was taking a dump or looking for his contact lens

what, looking for his contact lenses? he didn't even have his face looking downwards, he was looking upwards while doing it so he could see what his opponent was doing, not facing the canvas. basically willie pep has done it, whittaker has done it, floyd has done it, tyson has done it. i suppose they all looked like shit aswell?:lol:

it's called being evasive, elusive, which the likes of ricky hatton, henry cooper, frank bruno, the most loved british fighters aren't good at. maybe we hate skill.

[robpalmer135]

honestly i would not rush Gavin. The guy has tons of ability but when you look at the top guys in the world at light welter like Bradley, Khan, Hatton, Urango they look like the would just steamroll through him. Even guys like Daws, Barnes, Morrison just look so much stronger than Gavin.

I would like to see him do some work with Kerry Kayes (think he already is) and fill out a little bit more before heading to title class.

[icemax]

basically willie pep has done it, whittaker has done it, floyd has done it, tyson has done it. i suppose they all looked like shit aswell?:lol:

DeGale is not Willy Pep or Sweet Pea, and yes, they did look like cunts :deal. Its cheating, not skill

[moorser]

gavin has to be the best talent coming out of britain and ireland for years

that was a great performance aginst mcdonagh , he will be ready to pick up titles in the not to distant future

[boxingscience]

DeGale is not Willy Pep or Sweet Pea, and yes, they did look like cunts :deal. Its cheating, not skill

i never said he's willie pep or sweet pea, i'm just saying those sort of fighters done it aswell. each to their own i suppose.

[PaddyD1983]

Gavin looked great. Decent test too. Genuinely think he's ready to compete with the best domestically already. Not sure which of the commentary team said something like "if you were watching this as a neutral, you wouldnt know that Gavin was only fighting in his sixth fight".

Spot on that for me. Gavin looked tremendous.

The only two concerns I've got is that he seems to mark up relatively easily. Not sure how easy he makes the weight, but that's an issue as he doesnt get tagged all that much but still gets marked up around the eyes.

The other is his size. Boxrec says he's 5'10"? Maybe my eyes are playing up, but he doesnt look an inch over 5'6"!

All in all, he's progressing well and I'm expecting a lot from him though. Fingers crossed.

[Dan684]

Boxing Science - What is your name ?

[scrap]

Gavins, hasnt come out of 1st gear yet.

[brown bomber]

I think Gavin needs to be stepped up even more... He got tagged a bit too much against McDonagh. Don't get me wrong I think he's got some great moves, and boxed well but he has a bored look about him at times. I think he could beat Cook or Daws right now but the match suggested Vs Williams or Grant would make great sense. He needs something to get a little excitied about. Any marking time bouts should be done away with.

[boxingscience]

I think Gavin needs to be stepped up even more... He got tagged a bit too much against McDonagh. Don't get me wrong I think he's got some great moves, and boxed well but he has a bored look about him at times. I think he could beat Cook or Daws right now but the match suggested Vs Williams or Grant would make great sense. He needs something to get a little excitied about. Any marking time bouts should be done away with.

i agree. i thought he got tagged a bit too much, which is what i was getting at with the other poster. maybe putting him up in class will make him perform better. i'm hoping so.

[SteelTownCobra]

Gavin has loads of potential.

He also has loads of time.

[Strike]

I think Gavin needs to be stepped up even more... He got tagged a bit too much against McDonagh. Don't get me wrong I think he's got some great moves, and boxed well but he has a bored look about him at times. I think he could beat Cook or Daws right now but the match suggested Vs Williams or Grant would make great sense. He needs something to get a little excitied about. Any marking time bouts should be done away with.

I agree.

I was not impressed by him in the first two rounds, he was getting caught by wide, looping shots that were not even coming at speed. However from the third on he seemed to slip into gear and boxed very well, great movement and variation.
He definitely lacks power but at the same time, the higher level of opponents will leave more clean openings simply by throwing more and believing they are going to win. Guys making a fight of it, but knowing they are the underdog and not truly thinking they are going to emerge victorious will be more covered up and tucked in.

The main thing I have been impressed with is how much he has adapted to the pro game. Before they all made their pro debuts I felt BJS was easily the most likely to adapt to the pro ranks and that as great an amateur as Gavin was, his style would simply not work very well as a pro.
It looked like that in his first fight and then he has just got better and better with each bout, clearly worked hard and listened and has the natural ability to take on board each experience and training exercise quickly.

He now looks by far the best of the lads who went to the Olympics and my main areas of concern would be (as you said) his porous defence and his lack of real dig.

But he is great to watch when he starts getting into his stride and it will be interesting to see how much more he improves and where he goes.

[PaddyD1983]

Strike - he didnt go the olympics ;)

Know what you mean though.

[Strike]

Strike - he didnt go the olympics ;)

Know what you mean though.

He did. He just got sent home without fighting.:good

[Davies]

He did. He just got sent home without fighting.:good

If he did we would have added olympic gold to his stacked amature carrer :good

Great fighter m very impressed with him what is he now 6-0 (5 KO's)?

Thats great to start off with, i think he could stay on that level of opposition till he's 10-0 then move on to english/british level, but even if he doesn't im pretty confident he could take Daws out now.

[PaddyD1983]

If he did we would have added olympic gold to his stacked amature carrer :good

Great fighter m very impressed with him what is he now 6-0 (5 KO's)?

Thats great to start off with, i think he could stay on that level of opposition till he's 10-0 then move on to english/british level, but even if he doesn't im pretty confident he could take Daws out now.

:good

My thoughts exactly. Dont see the need for him to bide any time though. They should step him up immediately. He can learn his trade at the top of domestic level.

[PaddyD1983]

He did. He just got sent home without fighting.:good

You got me

[gooners!!]

Like Frankie Gavin as he is down to earth lad and has ability,would like to see him on the balls of his feet more though, he seems to fight too flat footed too much of the time and leans into the power hand of the orthodox fighter meaning he could run into a few round hand/right hooks down the road. Good fighter though and impressive.

[Top Dog]

Gavins, hasnt come out of 1st gear yet.

Fuck off, well he needs to cause he didnt look great, he got a decent fight from an average guy

[PaddyD1983]

Fuck off, well he needs to cause he didnt look great, he got a decent fight from an average guy

What? This was his sixth fight. He was against a game opponent.

I thought he looked great. Improved from his last outing and improved from the first round to the last.

If he hasnt gotten out of first gear then it's frightening to think what fourth and fifth might look like!

[jdawg]

This talk about gettin tagged alot is crazy, mcdonagh connected with less than 10% of his punches. Compared to frankie who freakishly landed half of em! The only thing he gets hit 2 often by is the other guys head, frankie leads with his 2 often when he comes inside. Frankie outclassed a very decent and respected pro with gr8 footwork, accuracy, superb body shots and is improving with every fight. Look 4ward to billy joe gettin back from injury hes a top kid aswell

[jdawg]

What? This was his sixth fight. He was against a game opponent.

I thought he looked great. Improved from his last outing and improved from the first round to the last.

If he hasnt gotten out of first gear then it's frightening to think what fourth and fifth might look like!

:good i agree

[Top Dog]

What? This was his sixth fight. He was against a game opponent.

I thought he looked great. Improved from his last outing and improved from the first round to the last.

If he hasnt gotten out of first gear then it's frightening to think what fourth and fifth might look like!


Thats why I am saying FUCK OFF, I dont believe this shite that he didnt get out of first gear, he won the fight, no question at all, but he didnt have it all his own way. Yeah its his 6th fight, and he is still learning his pro trade, and will one day be a great wee fighter, but its shite to say he didnt get out of first gear cause he was taking punches he shouldnt have.

[scrap]

Thats what happens in 1st gear, you will notice as time goes by and the Fighters are better, He wont get Hit as much. Look at His Amatuer resume, beat some great Fighters at a canter.

[gooners!!]

Thats what happens in 1st gear, you will notice as time goes by and the Fighters are better, He wont get Hit as much. Look at His Amatuer resume, beat some great Fighters at a canter.Im sure your right but im skeptical about that,mainly because they seemed to of have made him set his feet more in the Pro's, it was nice to see him use his legs and look more fluid but he needs to stop putting so much weight on his lead foot and leaning into the orthodox fighters power hands,otherwise he will continue to get nailed.


There is a vertical line from your lead foot upwards and your head is not supposed to be over that line,Gavin is leaning in too much and putting too much weight on his lead foot,when he should have his weight central and and be on the balls of his feet, that way when a punch is thrown at him he will be able to transfer his weight quickly and avoid it,putting too much weight on the lead foot leaves you less time transfer your weight to avoid the punch.

My advice...........balls of your feet,take the weight off your lead foot.

Gavin has all the tools if he can establish a tight D.

[teeto]

I missed his fight but i'll see it. By the way i think Frankie Gavin is absolute quality.

[howarya]

lacks power but ticks all the other boxes

[funtime09]

Gavin looked great. Decent test too. Genuinely think he's ready to compete with the best domestically already. Not sure which of the commentary team said something like "if you were watching this as a neutral, you wouldnt know that Gavin was only fighting in his sixth fight".

Spot on that for me. Gavin looked tremendous.

The only two concerns I've got is that he seems to mark up relatively easily. Not sure how easy he makes the weight, but that's an issue as he doesnt get tagged all that much but still gets marked up around the eyes.

The other is his size. Boxrec says he's 5'10"? Maybe my eyes are playing up, but he doesnt look an inch over 5'6"!

All in all, he's progressing well and I'm expecting a lot from him though. Fingers crossed.

Im about 5.9 an half mate no less than 5ft 9 an i agree never use to mark up seems like i have a bit lately

[Dan684]

Im about 5.9 an half mate no less than 5ft 9 an i agree never use to mark up seems like i have a bit lately

Was it a head or just catching a few frank ? I couldn't see a particular moment when you got marked up ??

Good win again anyway on Sat. Was speaking to Ant about it. Looking good mate. best of luck

[WATERBOY]

This talk about gettin tagged alot is crazy, mcdonagh connected with less than 10% of his punches. Compared to frankie who freakishly landed half of em! The only thing he gets hit 2 often by is the other guys head, frankie leads with his 2 often when he comes inside. Frankie outclassed a very decent and respected pro with gr8 footwork, accuracy, superb body shots and is improving with every fight. Look 4ward to billy joe gettin back from injury hes a top kid aswell

exactly got hit with 8% of shots how can that be too much!

[achillesthegreat]

This talk about gettin tagged alot is crazy, mcdonagh connected with less than 10% of his punches. Compared to frankie who freakishly landed half of em! The only thing he gets hit 2 often by is the other guys head, frankie leads with his 2 often when he comes inside. Frankie outclassed a very decent and respected pro with gr8 footwork, accuracy, superb body shots and is improving with every fight. Look 4ward to billy joe gettin back from injury hes a top kid aswell

agreed. frankie was in the eye of the storm so he makes it LOOK tougher than it really is. He wasn't running or clinching to halt the action. The odd few he catches seem to mark him up. Maybe he's wearing the headgear too much in sparring and needs his face to become tougher.

I think people need to take another look at some of McD's fights or even his boxrec and see he is a decent fighter of true domestic class. Forget his first 10 fights or so. He's upset the apple cart, fought at welterweight, gone the distance with top fighters etc

His boxrec says he's been stopped once on injury so in reality he's probably never been stopped but Gavins the sort of fighter to keep looking for the stoppage.

[saturday_kid]

McDonagh is a quality opponent for your 6th fight! His record doesn't flatter him as he's took some real tough fights and been unlucky, he gave Daws problems recently. I was impressed with Gavin, at times his boxing was a joy to watch, obviously theres always room for improvement but that will come as he steps up. I honestly believe he beats Daws now but theres no need to rush into anything, would like to see him have a crack at the British within a year though.

[sugar-ray]

Frankies QUALITY...He will compete at a very high level.McDonagh is a very good operater himself full credit 2 him (he always comes 2 fight).Keep up the good work FRANKIE!

[moorser]

lacks power but ticks all the other boxes


i dont think he lacks power , every time he threw a punch it had venom in it , he was whipping the shots in

you have to remember he was in there with mcdonagh who has an absouloute granite chin , never been stopped legit in 30 fights

just because he gos the distance with a journeyman dosent mean he lacks power

as strike said earlier , the better quality opponents will leave there chin out more as they try to land big punches themselvs and gavin will get more opportunitys to knock them out and i think you will see plenty of stoppages in frankies carear as it gos on

[kosaros]

McDonagh is a quality opponent for your 6th fight! His record doesn't flatter him as he's took some real tough fights and been unlucky, he gave Daws problems recently. I was impressed with Gavin, at times his boxing was a joy to watch, obviously theres always room for improvement but that will come as he steps up. I honestly believe he beats Daws now but theres no need to rush into anything, would like to see him have a crack at the British within a year though.

:good

[Beeston Brawler]

Try to find a decent southpaw next :think

Then the British title.

[howarya]

michael grant is an ideal next opp or maybe williams for the english or someone like nigel wright

[Dan684]

How about Craig Watson ?? He's reportedly wanting to move back down to 140 (Syas he wants Daws now).

How would people see that one going ?

[thewinfella]

Thats just the type of opponent he needed tonight, tremendous result for the lad. He's got all the ability in the world and a few 8 rounders and onto the British title. The best prospect we've got IMO. Well done.

Agree'd once he gets his body seasoned watch the fuck out , looks a bit light fisted for the worlds best @140 though , all in good time the kid is talented i like the guy a lot !!!!!!

[boxingscience]

i dont think he lacks power , every time he threw a punch it had venom in it , he was whipping the shots in

you have to remember he was in there with mcdonagh who has an absouloute granite chin , never been stopped legit in 30 fights

just because he gos the distance with a journeyman dosent mean he lacks power

as strike said earlier , the better quality opponents will leave there chin out more as they try to land big punches themselvs and gavin will get more opportunitys to knock them out and i think you will see plenty of stoppages in frankies carear as it gos on

the better quality opponents will also land more punches aswell, so theres a positive and negative in that. i think gavin will go quite far, i think he'll reach the world level, but i don't think he'll reach the p4p status like some are predicting. i would love for him to achieve it all though, that would be brilliant.

[royalt0208]

I would like to see Frankie in with Mihaita Mutu over 8 rounds. He is superemely experienced with a record of 26-15-2, has faced good opposition and has only been knocked out once (in his second fight against Mahyar Monshipour) and has faced the A-Z of Lightweight and Light Welterweights in Europe so would be good for rounds and would be a great measuring stick for Frankie.

[gooners!!]

So i watched the fight again today and my conclusion is that Gavin has more ability than any British prospect out there, but the problem is he has a leaky defence so i dont know if he will go as far as his talent should allow him to go,he will probably be a World Champion but i think he could be something special if only he could tighten up his defence.

When you watch the fight Gavin did okay/good early but it was at the end of round 3 onwards that Gavin started to use his legs and looked very impressive thats because he was not fighting flat footed and getting clipped/cuffed with silly little punches. I reckon Gavin should forget what they say to him about adapting to the Pro's (setting his feet) and do what got him here. Hamed started planting his feet more when he got with Steward and look how easy he was too hit toward the end of his career. You dont see Floyd Mayweather fighting flat footed and staying in range all the while,he does it sporadically but he mainly usues his legs and variety of counter punches.

Gavin should get on the balls of his feet and use his legs and punch of the angles the way he did toward the end of this fight because that is where he looked at his best imo. I think they are making Gavin easier to hit but telling him to sit down on his punches too much.