View Full Version : Peter at 250?
Seems like alot to me. Peter will be breathing hard ala Briggs after 3 rounds. I hope Peter loses and fades away along with Duva and DK
box03
10-04-2007, 07:16 PM
Peter could be 300 pounds and still knock Mccline out, this fight wont go any longer than 7 rounds.
Amsterdam
10-04-2007, 07:23 PM
I hope so... at even 243 this guy starts breathing like a marathon runner so 250 is not looking good for him.
He was 248 for the second Toney fight, what's the big deal? He did 12 rounds easy there.
HandsOfGold
10-04-2007, 07:25 PM
250 and an absolute TANK of a man.
look how proud peter is toting around his belt that he did not even win! that shit is a fucking joke. i have lost all respectfor him, for that antic.
You are so right. Win the belt like the others do and you can show it off. Makes me sick that the WBC allowed Don King and Duva to put pressure and handed Peter a belt. Team peter (Duva) has been whinning and crying about everything for 2 years now. I guess if you whine loud enough and cry hard enough they just hand you the championship
WBC should be ASHAMED!!!!!!!!!
He was 248 for the second Toney fight, what's the big deal? He did 12 rounds easy there.
Toney was slow as hell for that fight. The fight was to a snails pace in the later rounds. To say Peter lasted all 12 is not accurate. Yes, he did last 12....but not much was happening in the later rounds. If McCline moves...Peter could be in trouble in the later rounds
Amsterdam
10-04-2007, 07:31 PM
Man did you guys not see that fight? He was tired as fuck by the end. Had Toney been in shape or a bigger more natural heavy Peter would have paid dearly for his blatant under preparation.
I did see the fight, he threw a lot of punches and some fast combinations and kept it relatively consistent, it was a first.
McCline is shot and people giving him a chance are the ones who underrate Sam Peter in my opinion, the same people pick old man Maskaev with his glass jaw and slow legs.:yep
Amsterdam
10-04-2007, 07:32 PM
Toney was slow as hell for that fight. The fight was to a snails pace in the later rounds. To say Peter lasted all 12 is not accurate. Yes, he did last 12....but not much was happening in the later rounds. If McCline moves...Peter could be in trouble in the later rounds
McClines' movement is terrible and he's injured/shot at this point. Let's all wake up and realise this at the very least.
box03
10-04-2007, 07:33 PM
Peter not fighting Chris Bryd here, hes fighting a stationary target in Mccline, which will allow him not to use up energy in the ring trying to follow him around. Peter deserves the title as much as anyone else, he had to wait around for that puss Maskaev to back out and him the title. I guess Lewis didnt deserve the belt when Bowe pussed out and wouldnt fight him, all that matters is the belts in the right hands now.
I did see the fight, he threw a lot of punches and some fast combinations and kept it relatively consistent, it was a first.
McCline is shot and people giving him a chance are the ones who underrate Sam Peter in my opinion, the same people pick old man Maskaev with his glass jaw and slow legs.:yep
I think we all feel that McCline has a slim chance at best. But what I see more and more is people pulling for McCline becuse they don't like peter and his team. Its not rooting for McCline to WIN...its rooting for Peter to LOSE
Amsterdam
10-04-2007, 07:34 PM
Well that's just the thing, Toney was even more out of shape than Peter was for that fight. While McCline is a very natural in shape 260+ pound man. You just can't get away with that kind of shit for too long against quality opposition. If Peter doesn't pay for it now he'll pay for his obvious lack of conditioning later on.
McCline is only going to last a few rounds, his defence is very poor to begin with.
McCline looked as good as he's ever looked in the Valuev fight before his knee gave out. Plus he's a mobile heavy who likes to stay on his toes and use lateral movement. That right there should give a slow, plodding, clearly out of shape Peter problems all night.
Agreed. If McCline stands in front of Peter the fight will be over quick. If he moves Peter will have a hard time. I think Peter is going to come out like the Peter of old...looking for that 1 big shot (in the back of the head ha ha ha) and that might be trouble for Peter
A slow, hurt knee, McCline can still move better than Peter
box03
10-04-2007, 07:43 PM
:roll: There you go with the defence argument again. It worked real well for you in Miranda - Pavlik didn't it? :lol:
Peter has an even worse defense and McCline can take a decent shot anyway. If Sam couldn't KO a much smaller James Toney and a glass chinned Wlad Klitschko what makes you think he could just steamroll Jameel McCline? He smothered his punches when he had Wlad on queer street, hes now more experienced. No fighter ever knocked Toney out, Peter was the closest to doing so, great heavywieghts like Rahman, Ruiz, or Holyfield couldnt do it either.
TRUEBELIEVER 66
10-04-2007, 07:50 PM
Peter is only about 6 foot or maybe 6-1 250 is way to much lard to carry around for a 12 round fight, for Sams sake he better hope he get's Mccline out of there early before he gets gassed and starts huffing and puffing, damn man why are so many guy's coming in overweight these day's???:-( how about training more and staying away from the Nachos?, forget about putting money on Peter, he should be in the 230's
Props to Golata for coming in at 240, that's what he weighed when he smacked Bowe all over the ring 11 years AGO:patsch , at almost 40 seems like the old guy's have an easier time making it to the gym than the TWENTYSOMETHINGS!!
box03
10-04-2007, 07:58 PM
Peter with his size and power not only should have hurt guys like Toney and Wlad, he should have been able to KO them with all that he landed, and he didn't. This guy is highly overrated and there's a reason why McCline has been able to compete with top heayweights for all these years. Whether he wins or not he'll give Peter problems all night and he definitely won't be KOed early. Im perdicting mid round stoppage, I agree he should of been able to finish Wlad off when he had him hurt, but if you watch the fight Peter rarely hit Wlad flush with many shots. Toney is a extremely hard to knockout for any fighter in the division, he hardly gets hit flush.
RUSKULL
10-04-2007, 08:02 PM
McCline wins if he boxes early & turns it up late.
box03
10-04-2007, 08:07 PM
McCline wins if he boxes early & turns it up late. RUSKULL, me and you both know Mccline wont get past the 7th round with Peter. I know you want to see Peter lose, but it aint going to happen on oct 6.
McCline wins if he boxes early & turns it up late.
Agreed:good :happy
Heavyrighthand
10-04-2007, 08:22 PM
Peter must have built more muscle preparing for this fight (these fights LOL)
He may weigh 250 but its not around his waist, as he looks leaner than ever.
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That said.......... I still say:
McCline by decision..........
box03
10-04-2007, 08:25 PM
Peter must have built more muscle preparing for this fight (these fights LOL)
He may weigh 250 but its not around his waist, as he looks leaner than ever.
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That said.......... I still say:
McCline by decision.......... Damn Peter gained muscle and Mccline lost some, not that it matters. Peter looks strong too me, 250 or not he looks to be in good shape.
El Bombasto
10-04-2007, 08:26 PM
RUSKULL, me and you both know Mccline wont get past the 7th round with Peter. I know you want to see Peter lose, but it aint going to happen on oct 6.
you're probably right about peter winning, but if he knocks out mccline, that will be the first b-class fighter he's been able to finish.
Mendoza
10-04-2007, 08:28 PM
Peter looks to be in good shape. Still, I think his best weight is in the low 240's.
TRUEBELIEVER 66
10-04-2007, 08:29 PM
[quote=Heavyrighthand]Peter must have built more muscle preparing for this fight (these fights LOL)
He may weigh 250 but its not around his waist, as he looks leaner than ever.
[Only registered and activated users can see links] for the pic:good Mccline looks like he's confident and in Awesome shape, he looks like he's standing on a chair next to King and Peter, folks i would think twice before running to the bookie to put money on Sam:nono
This could be a tough scrap..
TRUEBELIEVER 66
10-04-2007, 08:30 PM
[quote=Heavyrighthand]Peter must have built more muscle preparing for this fight (these fights LOL)
He may weigh 250 but its not around his waist, as he looks leaner than ever.
[Only registered and activated users can see links] for the pic:good Mccline looks like he's confident and in Awesome shape, he looks like he's standing on a chair next to King and Peter, folks i would think twice before running to the bookie to put money on Sam:nono
This could be a tough scrap..
box03
10-04-2007, 08:30 PM
you're probably right about peter winning, but if he knocks out mccline, that will be the first b-class fighter he's been able to finish. Yes, the first B-class fighter he ever finished not beat. Toney is an easy B class oppenent who would be hard for anyone to beat in the heavywieght division.
you're probably right about peter winning, but if he knocks out mccline, that will be the first b-class fighter he's been able to finish.
you are so right. If Peter wins....the peter nuthuggers will be acting like McCline was the best and our guy beat him. The Peter nuthuggers will be saying that peter is better than Wlad....mark my words
McCline by Decision:bbb
box03
10-04-2007, 08:32 PM
you are so right. If Peter wins....the peter nuthuggers will be acting like McCline was the best and our guy beat him. The Peter nuthuggers will be saying that peter is better than Wlad....mark my words
McCline by Decision:bbb I would not say that, I will say that Peter is that much closer to unification in the heavywieght division.
I would not say that, I will say that Peter is that much closer to unification in the heavywieght division.
Why is Peter closer to unification than Wlad?
box03
10-04-2007, 08:36 PM
Why is Peter closer to unification than Wlad? They would be on the same level since both will have a title then, Wlad is a little higher than Peter since he beat him 2 years ago.
jopez707
10-04-2007, 08:51 PM
McCline is a spent force, look for him to be competitive for about 5 or 6 rounds, before being ko'd.
thesandman
10-04-2007, 09:28 PM
McCline is a spent force, look for him to be competitive for about 5 or 6 rounds, before being ko'd.
Yeah, McCline is done. I agree.
He always, always, found a way to lose winnable fights when he wasn't done, so I don't hold out a lot of hope in this one.
However, whoever said Peter should be finishing guys when he hurts them, I agree. that's what TOP level guys with power do. When they hurt you, it's over.
Even in recent times, Lewis, Tua, hell even the head hunter version of Tyson in the 90's, EVEN hasbeen Rahman, if they hurt a guy and have him in trouble, they finish the job.
Could come back to haunt Peter if he can't do the same.
swedeone
10-04-2007, 09:30 PM
Peter with his size and power not only should have hurt guys like Toney and Wlad, he should have been able to KO them with all that he landed, and he didn't. This guy is highly overrated and there's a reason why McCline has been able to compete with top heayweights for all these years. Whether he wins or not he'll give Peter problems all night and he definitely won't be KOed early.
1. He had no chance to KO Wlad as Wlad was bear-hugging him the entire fight.
2. Show me someone that has knocked out James Toney. Anyone.
:hi:
box03
10-04-2007, 09:31 PM
Yeah, McCline is done. I agree.
He always, always, found a way to lose winnable fights when he wasn't done, so I don't hold out a lot of hope in this one.
However, whoever said Peter should be finishing guys when he hurts them, I agree. that's what TOP level guys with power do. When they hurt you, it's over.
Even in recent times, Lewis, Tua, hell even the head hunter version of Tyson in the 90's, EVEN hasbeen Rahman, if they hurt a guy and have him in trouble, they finish the job.
Could come back to haunt Peter if he can't do the same. I agree, he had Wlad hurt in there fight and couldnt land a solid punch to finish Wlad off. Peter only just turned 27, and he is getting better every fight.
darkness
10-04-2007, 09:32 PM
Peter looks Good he is going to starch McCline and it will be quick. Get the Golota fight ready as filler.
madjabber
10-04-2007, 10:14 PM
look how proud peter is toting around his belt that he did not even win! that shit is a fucking joke. i have lost all respectfor him, for that antic.
This guy is a doofus he reminds me of the typical African stereotype ala Eddie Murphy in Coming to America. Jeez
at least he should beat the real Champion before he goes Around acting like he is the Undisputed, what a dope.:patsch
brooklyn1550
10-04-2007, 10:32 PM
250 is a good weight
box03
10-04-2007, 10:44 PM
Uhhh if Peter was half as great as some of you tout him to be he no doubt should have KOed an old, overweight former middleweight. I agree with most of what you say in posts, but honestly I think any heavywieght would have trouble taking Toney out wouldnt you agree?
swedeone
10-04-2007, 10:46 PM
Uhhh if Peter was half as great as some of you tout him to be he no doubt should have KOed an old, overweight former middleweight.
I'm a HUGE Peter fan and believe me, he is nowhere near a "great" fighter. I can easily admit that. He is, however, a very exciting, hard-hitting, granite-chinned HW that is also a humble, good person to his core. He will be champion in 2008 for sure and in my opinion, will be the man to stop Wladamir Klitschko.
brooklyn1550
10-04-2007, 10:46 PM
I agree with most of what you say in posts, but honestly I think any heavywieght would have trouble taking Toney out wouldnt you agree?
Other than Klitschko, I doubt anybody would have stopped the Toney that Peter fought. Not Chagaev, not Brewster, not McCall, not Maskaev, not Ibragimov. Though David Tua may have a good shot.
box03
10-04-2007, 10:49 PM
Other than Klitschko, I doubt anybody would have stopped the Toney that Peter fought. Not Chagaev, not Brewster, not McCall, not Maskaev, not Ibragimov. Though David Tua may have a good shot. I could see Wlad having a chance at knocking Peter out, though I dont see Tua doing it as easy at least not at this stage in career, I see it looking like when Tua fought Bryd.
emanuel_augustus
10-04-2007, 11:26 PM
250 is not a bad weight for Peter, he looks in good shape.
Asterion
10-05-2007, 12:01 AM
250 is normal for Peter.
Shpion
10-05-2007, 12:29 AM
Even though 250 IMO is high, he looks to be in good shape according to the picture.
ralphc
10-05-2007, 01:45 AM
Peter could be 300 pounds and still knock Mccline out, this fight wont go any longer than 7 rounds.
As disgusting as it is, there is a lot of truth in these words. McCline is a little too easy to hit, and Peter throws a lot of haymakers the first 3 or 4 rounds. An early KO is probably the most likely scenario. God only knows who will win the kissing and hugging contest if McCline can survive the early onslaught.
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