welter Roberto Duran vs welter Manny Paquiao

[MMJoe]

who wins this 12 rounder?

[anarci]

DUran by late stoppage in atg fight tko12 if not close but convincing decision

[itrymariti]

Can Pacquiao fight inside?

[anarci]

Can Pacquiao fight inside? He would do well at times but hed take more punishment,and thats one of the reasons i see a possible tko,on the outside he would not be able to do what Leonard did in the 2nd fight with Duran.

[itrymariti]

He would do well at times but hed take more punishment,and thats one of the reasons i see a possible tko,on the outside he would be able to do what Leonard did in the 2nd fight with Duran.

I don't know about that. Pacquiao has functional movement, but it's not like he fights off the back foot or spends the whole night moving side-to-side. The way I see it, Duran would slip his shots, get inside and take Pacquiao - who isn't strong up close - to school. I don't actually think Pacquiao is getting his due generally on here, but he's both overmatched and tied up in knots stylistically in this one.

[anarci]

I don't know about that. Pacquiao has functional movement, but it's not like he fights off the back foot or spends the whole night moving side-to-side. The way I see it, Duran would slip his shots, get inside and take Pacquiao - who isn't strong up close - to school. I don't actually think Pacquiao is getting his due generally on here, but he's both overmatched and tied up in knots stylistically in this one. Well then you pretty much agree with me then thats kind of what i said or else had in mind.

[kidargentine]

Their both versatile brawlers, but I'd say Manny eventually loses to Durans power and pressure via TKO in the 9th.

[laxpdx]

Again, I think Duran ultimately brings too much pressure and unrelenting punching that Pacman succumbs late in the bout.

[Meast]

A pretty amazing match up.

Duran UD for me, I think Manny would have his moments but Duran just brings too much to the table.

[Flea Man]

Duran can outbox or outfight Pac.

[teeto]

It really pisses me off that i know people who tend to post more in general are going to crash this thread talking about how we overrate fighters from the past. This is Roberto Duran vs Manny Pacquiao head to head, Duran would win, time has nothing to do with it.

[Popkins]

I'm known as a fervent Pacquiao supporter, but of course he has next to no chance in this one. The Duran of the Brawl is one of the finest fighting machines ever caught on film. Even with the slight speed advantage Pacquiao would have, he would still be outskilled, outgunned, and badly beaten up.

[itrymariti]

A more interesting question is over how Duran wins. Pacquiao is a durable and tough guy, and Duran was not a home-run-hitter at 147. But Pacquiao isn't a defensive wizard on the inside and he might be so overmatched that the towel could come in. Palomino, for example, was not far away from being finished and he was only in with Duran for 10.

[teeto]

A more interesting question is over how Duran wins. Pacquiao is a durable and tough guy, and Duran was not a home-run-hitter at 147. But Pacquiao isn't a defensive wizard on the inside and he might be so overmatched that the towel could come in. Palomino, for example, was not far away from being finished and he was only in with Duran for 10.
He's durable Pacquiao, and very great in his own right, lets have that said. But he really is outclassed technically. Duran would hit him so much and at times look a wizard standing in front of Pac, at stages of the fight it would be like a handcuffing and beating. Pacquiao wouldn't get shut out because he can always surprise Duran early with fast right hooks. You've got to understand that Roberto's right hand from distance is ridiculously effective.

[Popkins]

He's durable Pacquiao, and very great in his own right, lets have that said. But he really is outclassed technically. Duran would hit him so much and at times look a wizard standing in front of Pac, at stages of the fight it would be like a handcuffing and beating. Pacquiao wouldn't get shut out because he can always surprise Duran early with fast right hooks. You've got to understand that Roberto's right hand from distance is ridiculously effective.

This :deal

[teeto]

This :deal
Thanks Popkins.

[Boxed Ears]

Somebody picked Pac by KO. :lol:

[itrymariti]

So do we see a stoppage..?

[teeto]

So do we see a stoppage..?
I might go for it. To be honest i can see it on accumulation but it's not really fair because the man hasn't been stopped anywhere near this weight or even come close.

[Boxed Ears]

I might go for it. To be honest i can see it on accumulation but it's not really fair because the man hasn't been stopped anywhere near this weight or even come close.

If you listen to the general forum, Pacquiao probably has six times the power of a Tommy Hearns right in his jab alone. He also shits rose-scented lightning and can take Jordan in a one-on-one B-ball game.

[teeto]

If you listen to the general forum, Pacquiao probably has six times the power of a Tommy Hearns right in his jab alone. He also shits rose-scented lightning and can take Jordan in a one-on-one B-ball game.
Hahaha i know man, funny as fuck!

[itrymariti]

If you listen to the general forum, Pacquiao probably has six times the power of a Tommy Hearns right in his jab alone. He also shits rose-scented lightning and can take Jordan in a one-on-one B-ball game.

Most people seem to be picking Mayweather over him. In a contest of over-rated-ness, I think Mayweather takes the cake hands down.

[Boxed Ears]

Most people seem to be picking Mayweather over him. In a contest of over-rated-ness, I think Mayweather takes the cake hands down.

The humor that would ensue if Pac and May both lost their next fights. I don't think they will but the comedy of coming to ESB after each would be brilliant.

[Boxed Ears]

Ah, Jesus. TWO PEOPLE have now voted Pac by KO? Have those two people ever actually seen a good Duran fight?

[Meast]

Ah, Jesus. TWO PEOPLE have now voted Pac by KO? Have those two people ever actually seen a good Duran fight?

It's a shame we can't see who's voting for what :huh

[Pachilles]

I imagine making polls like this is masturbation to classic posters. Bottom line is Pacquiao has destroyed legends, literally destroyed and ended their competative careers, coming up from 106lbs to 147lbs, 7 divisions. Whilst Duran on the other hand, had one single night over a legend(Montreal Duran beats prime Ali, Lewis, Loius, Tyson in same night), and then against other legends was anniahlated, embarassingly quit like a bitch and was outboxed and outclassed.

Duran clearly wins this poll on here, it didnt need to be asked, it was put up because of the small doses of logic seeping through in recent posts which threatens his God status amongst armchair critics in this tiny corner of the internet. Duran is the king of excuses, no excuse is questioned on here and more are made up, his losses are never acknowledged or accepted in debates, theyre always ignored or excused.

Pacquiao on the other hand is spited on here, because of the current buzz surrounding his achievements, which are nothing short of amazing. Theres a billion excuses for his victims and self proclaimed experts claim they already knew the outcome, althoughhe's been the underdog in most major fights, his opponents all of sudden become shot, or were never that good, because Pac has destroyed them.

This is how i see the fight playing out. Duran comes into the fight in perfect shape(after the fight Durantards claim he was shot and past his prime, didnt train at all, was drinking heavily and had a poorly tummy). Duran and Pacquaio rush each other, clashing heads, Pacquiao's is cut above the eye and is bullied into the corner, after taking numerous hooks and uppercuts he wildly fires back, flooring Duran. Duran beats the count and survives the first round by grappling. Over the next three rounds, halted from advancing in fear of Pacquiao's power he tasted in the first, Pacquiao rushes in and out peppering Duran with dazzling flurries and straight lefts. In the last minute of the 4th, frustrated, Duran intentionally low blows Pacquiao, then rushes in a furious rage attempting to capitalise on the winded Pac. Pac fires an eight punch combo in return and floors Duran once more. Duran beats the count and survives the round. Coming out for the fifth, Duran eats 5 consecutive unaswered straights, demoralised and weak hearted, he calls it quits at :057 in the 5th round.

As Pacquiao is raised upon the shoulders of his entourage, two bullets are fired into his sternum. The 3 gunmen are taken down by members of the crowd. They are later found out to be anarci and a couple of un-named essays. They are charge with attemped murder, as Pacquiao survives and recovers, then 6 months later is crowned an 8 division titlist, winning the WBA junior middleweight crown.

Duranimal is found dead at home in his bedroom at 04:37 AM on June 20th, The Brawl in Montreal was still playing on windows media player, it was set to repeat. Naked, upside down on his computer chair, the coroner's report stated that his throat was redened, a sign of choking, his neck had spasmed and dislocated his spine in three places. Upside down and unable to move, he had drowned on his own semen. Margarita and viagra were found in his blood stream.

Stonehands89 re-evaultated the Gods of War ranking, replacing Duran with Pacquiao as the no.5 spot. After posting the article on the ESB Classic Forum, his account was suspended by a Moderator and he wasn't heard from again, until ten years later, when he appeared as a columnist for the Ring magasine.

Sweet Pea found the bottom of a bottle. Homeless and intoxicated, he was later recruited and brought in by The Morlocks, who had since become the Chief executive to a Scientology based offshoot religion, known as Duranology. After 5 years of constant revision of all Duran available Duran fight tapes, they finally realised that he was never actually as good as they had first percieved, and was certainly no Top 20 P4P fighter. Along with bohdi, boxed ears, my2sense, mcgrain, teeto, popkins and powerpuncher, mass suicide was carried out, in a secluded farmhouse somewhere abouts the Panamanian countryside.

Fleaman jumped ship, aboard a galleon owned by the last remaining credible poster he could leech knowledge off, MAG185. A fair and honest non-believer. Fleaman became a Duran hater.

As for me, I enrolled in a college course, and, although it was hard, I gutted it out like I always did. I went on to college and eventually became a lawyer. Last week I entered a fast food restaurant. Just ahead of me, two men got into an argument—one of them pulled a knife. Being me, who had always made the best peace, tried to break it up. I was stabbed in the throat. I died almost instantly. I was a Pactard till the end.

[Boxed Ears]

I imagine making polls like this is masturbation to classic posters. Bottom line is Pacquiao has destroyed legends, literally destroyed and ended their competative careers, coming up from 106lbs to 147lbs, 7 divisions. Whilst Duran on the other hand, had one single night over a legend(Montreal Duran beats prime Ali, Lewis, Loius, Tyson in same night), and then against other legends was anniahlated, embarassingly quit like a bitch and was outboxed and outclassed.

Duran clearly wins this poll on here, it didnt need to be asked, it was put up because of the small doses of logic seeping through in recent posts which threatens his God status amongst armchair critics in this tiny corner of the internet. Duran is the king of excuses, no excuse is questioned on here and more are made up, his losses are never acknowledged or accepted in debates, theyre always ignored or excused.

Pacquiao on the other hand is spited on here, because of the current buzz surrounding his achievements, which are nothing short of amazing. Theres a billion excuses for his victims and self proclaimed experts claim they already knew the outcome, althoughhe's been the underdog in most major fights, his opponents all of sudden become shot, or were never that good, because Pac has destroyed them.

This is how i see the fight playing out. Duran comes into the fight in perfect shape(after the fight Durantards claim he was shot and past his prime, didnt train at all, was drinking heavily and had a poorly tummy). Duran and Pacquaio rush each other, clashing heads, Pacquiao's is cut above the eye and is bullied into the corner, after taking numerous hooks and uppercuts he wildly fires back, flooring Duran. Duran beats the count and survives the first round by grappling. Over the next three rounds, halted from advancing in fear of Pacquiao's power he tasted in the first, Pacquiao rushes in and out peppering Duran with dazzling flurries and straight lefts. In the last minute of the 4th, frustrated, Duran intentionally low blows Pacquiao, then rushes in a furious rage attempting to capitalise on the winded Pac. Pac fires an eight punch combo in return and floors Duran once more. Duran beats the count and survives the round. Coming out for the fifth, Duran eats 5 consecutive unaswered straights, demoralised and weak hearted, he calls it quits at :057 in the 5th round.

As Pacquiao is raised upon the shoulders of his entourage, two bullets are fired into his sternum. The 3 gunmen are taken down by members of the crowd. They are later found out to be anarci and a couple of un-named essays. They are charge with attemped murder, as Pacquiao survives and recovers, then 6 months later is crowned an 8 division titlist, winning the WBA junior middleweight crown.

Duranimal is found dead at home in his bedroom at 04:37 AM on June 20th, The Brawl in Montreal was still playing on windows media player, it was set to repeat. Naked, upside down on his computer chair, the coroner's report stated that his throat was redened, a sign of choking, his neck had spasmed and dislocated his spine in three places. Upside down and unable to move, he had drowned on his own semen. Margarita and viagra were found in his blood stream.

Stonehands89 re-evaultated the Gods of War ranking, replacing Duran with Pacquiao as the no.5 spot. After posting the article on the ESB Classic Forum, his account was suspended by a Moderator and he wasn't heard from again, until ten years later, when he appeared as a columnist for the Ring magasine.

Sweet Pea found the bottom of a bottle. Homeless and intoxicated, he was later recruited and brought in by The Morlocks, who had since become the Chief executive to a Scientology based offshoot religion, known as Duranology. After 5 years of constant revision of all Duran available Duran fight tapes, they finally realised that he was never actually as good as they had first percieved, and was certainly no Top 20 P4P fighter. Along with bohdi, boxed ears, my2sense, mcgrain, teeto, popkins and powerpuncher, mass suicide was carried out, in a secluded farmhouse somewhere abouts the Panamanian countryside.

Fleaman jumped ship, aboard a galleon owned by the last remaining credible poster he could leech knowledge off, MAG185. A fair and honest non-believer. Fleaman became a Duran hater.

As for me, I enrolled in a college course, and, although it was hard, I gutted it out like I always did. I went on to college and eventually became a lawyer. Last week I entered a fast food restaurant. Just ahead of me, two men got into an argument—one of them pulled a knife. Being me, who had always made the best peace, tried to break it up. I was stabbed in the throat. I died almost instantly. I was a Pactard till the end.

:rofl :happy I think you're crazy but I appreciate your taking the time to manifesto up again on your obsession.

[Addie]

Duranimal is found dead at home in his bedroom at 04:37 AM on June 20th, The Brawl in Montreal was still playing on windows media player, it was set to repeat. Naked, upside down on his computer chair, the coroner's report stated that his throat was redened, a sign of choking, his neck had spasmed and dislocated his spine in three places. Upside down and unable to move, he had drowned on his own semen. Margarita and viagra were found in his blood stream.

:lol::lol:

[wordisbond]

^^ You have a great imagination. Thanks for the entertainment.

[Pachilles]

^^ You have a great imagination. Thanks for the entertainment.

Thanks for the compliment. Its all speculation of course, but from what i do have to go on(visual evidence of both fighter's fights and the attitudes of said posters) i'd say its a very likely scenario

[Addie]

Thanks for the compliment. Its all speculation of course, but from what i do have to go on(visual evidence of both fighter's fights and the attitudes of said posters) i'd say its a very likely scenario

Your creativity is certainly to marvel at, but your honesty is not.

...Planet Earth? ...Really, though?

[thesham01]

As Pacquiao is raised upon the shoulders of his entourage, two bullets are fired into his sternum. The 3 gunmen are taken down by members of the crowd. They are later found out to be anarci and a couple of un-named essays. They are charge with attemped murder, as Pacquiao survives and recovers, then 6 months later is crowned an 8 division titlist, winning the WBA junior middleweight crown.

Duranimal is found dead at home in his bedroom at 04:37 AM on June 20th, The Brawl in Montreal was still playing on windows media player, it was set to repeat. Naked, upside down on his computer chair, the coroner's report stated that his throat was redened, a sign of choking, his neck had spasmed and dislocated his spine in three places. Upside down and unable to move, he had drowned on his own semen. Margarita and viagra were found in his blood stream.

Stonehands89 re-evaultated the Gods of War ranking, replacing Duran with Pacquiao as the no.5 spot. After posting the article on the ESB Classic Forum, his account was suspended by a Moderator and he wasn't heard from again, until ten years later, when he appeared as a columnist for the Ring magasine.

Sweet Pea found the bottom of a bottle. Homeless and intoxicated, he was later recruited and brought in by The Morlocks, who had since become the Chief executive to a Scientology based offshoot religion, known as Duranology. After 5 years of constant revision of all Duran available Duran fight tapes, they finally realised that he was never actually as good as they had first percieved, and was certainly no Top 20 P4P fighter. Along with bohdi, boxed ears, my2sense, mcgrain, teeto, popkins and powerpuncher, mass suicide was carried out, in a secluded farmhouse somewhere abouts the Panamanian countryside.

Fleaman jumped ship, aboard a galleon owned by the last remaining credible poster he could leech knowledge off, MAG185. A fair and honest non-believer. Fleaman became a Duran hater.

As for me, I enrolled in a college course, and, although it was hard, I gutted it out like I always did. I went on to college and eventually became a lawyer. Last week I entered a fast food restaurant. Just ahead of me, two men got into an argument—one of them pulled a knife. Being me, who had always made the best peace, tried to break it up. I was stabbed in the throat. I died almost instantly. I was a Pactard till the end.

:lol::lol:

good stuff

[teeto]

I imagine making polls like this is masturbation to classic posters. Bottom line is Pacquiao has destroyed legends, literally destroyed and ended their competative careers, coming up from 106lbs to 147lbs, 7 divisions. Whilst Duran on the other hand, had one single night over a legend(Montreal Duran beats prime Ali, Lewis, Loius, Tyson in same night), and then against other legends was anniahlated, embarassingly quit like a bitch and was outboxed and outclassed.

Duran clearly wins this poll on here, it didnt need to be asked, it was put up because of the small doses of logic seeping through in recent posts which threatens his God status amongst armchair critics in this tiny corner of the internet. Duran is the king of excuses, no excuse is questioned on here and more are made up, his losses are never acknowledged or accepted in debates, theyre always ignored or excused.

Pacquiao on the other hand is spited on here, because of the current buzz surrounding his achievements, which are nothing short of amazing. Theres a billion excuses for his victims and self proclaimed experts claim they already knew the outcome, althoughhe's been the underdog in most major fights, his opponents all of sudden become shot, or were never that good, because Pac has destroyed them.

This is how i see the fight playing out. Duran comes into the fight in perfect shape(after the fight Durantards claim he was shot and past his prime, didnt train at all, was drinking heavily and had a poorly tummy). Duran and Pacquaio rush each other, clashing heads, Pacquiao's is cut above the eye and is bullied into the corner, after taking numerous hooks and uppercuts he wildly fires back, flooring Duran. Duran beats the count and survives the first round by grappling. Over the next three rounds, halted from advancing in fear of Pacquiao's power he tasted in the first, Pacquiao rushes in and out peppering Duran with dazzling flurries and straight lefts. In the last minute of the 4th, frustrated, Duran intentionally low blows Pacquiao, then rushes in a furious rage attempting to capitalise on the winded Pac. Pac fires an eight punch combo in return and floors Duran once more. Duran beats the count and survives the round. Coming out for the fifth, Duran eats 5 consecutive unaswered straights, demoralised and weak hearted, he calls it quits at :057 in the 5th round.

As Pacquiao is raised upon the shoulders of his entourage, two bullets are fired into his sternum. The 3 gunmen are taken down by members of the crowd. They are later found out to be anarci and a couple of un-named essays. They are charge with attemped murder, as Pacquiao survives and recovers, then 6 months later is crowned an 8 division titlist, winning the WBA junior middleweight crown.

Duranimal is found dead at home in his bedroom at 04:37 AM on June 20th, The Brawl in Montreal was still playing on windows media player, it was set to repeat. Naked, upside down on his computer chair, the coroner's report stated that his throat was redened, a sign of choking, his neck had spasmed and dislocated his spine in three places. Upside down and unable to move, he had drowned on his own semen. Margarita and viagra were found in his blood stream.

Stonehands89 re-evaultated the Gods of War ranking, replacing Duran with Pacquiao as the no.5 spot. After posting the article on the ESB Classic Forum, his account was suspended by a Moderator and he wasn't heard from again, until ten years later, when he appeared as a columnist for the Ring magasine.

Sweet Pea found the bottom of a bottle. Homeless and intoxicated, he was later recruited and brought in by The Morlocks, who had since become the Chief executive to a Scientology based offshoot religion, known as Duranology. After 5 years of constant revision of all Duran available Duran fight tapes, they finally realised that he was never actually as good as they had first percieved, and was certainly no Top 20 P4P fighter. Along with bohdi, boxed ears, my2sense, mcgrain, teeto, popkins and powerpuncher, mass suicide was carried out, in a secluded farmhouse somewhere abouts the Panamanian countryside.

Fleaman jumped ship, aboard a galleon owned by the last remaining credible poster he could leech knowledge off, MAG185. A fair and honest non-believer. Fleaman became a Duran hater.

As for me, I enrolled in a college course, and, although it was hard, I gutted it out like I always did. I went on to college and eventually became a lawyer. Last week I entered a fast food restaurant. Just ahead of me, two men got into an argument—one of them pulled a knife. Being me, who had always made the best peace, tried to break it up. I was stabbed in the throat. I died almost instantly. I was a Pactard till the end.
It's a funny post but it's a shambles. I hate how it's so hard to have a decent debate between a 'classic poster' and a 'general poster'. But this is one unbiased muthafucka who is replying to you here Pachilles, you only need to read my posts in this thread to see that. So if you'd like to discuss this hypothetical match properly with me i'd be more than happy to. No bullshit though.

[Addie]

Manny Pacquiao has never ducked away from a firefight in his entire professional career, and Duran would certainly have had the tools to pull him in one at 147lbs. When a fighter closes the distance, Manny always seems to get pulled on the ropes. In spots against Barrera that was the case, and it certainly occurred against Morales and even Cotto in spots. Duran was twice as effective as any of those aforementioned fighters in close, and would certainly have a field day with a stationary target.

Manny would be competitive early on - his athletic ability and hand speed will find the target, but once Duran starts to close the distance, Manny seems to struggle on the inside. Well you say he still a punchers chance, but Duran took full bloodied left hooks from a gigantic Middleweight in Iran Barkley. That was past his prime, and there's no way in hell Manny has ever been proven to hit in the same vicinity as a Thomas Hearns.

The smart money is on Roberto Duran. I think Chavez also beats Manny at 135lbs for the reasons I just mentioned, and Duran has better hand speed and was scarily good at going into the jaws of the lion and getting out without being hit cleanly to often. A good short compact puncher who's tough and strong enough to fend off Pacquiao's onslaught will be very effective I feel.

[teeto]

Manny Pacquiao has never ducked away from a firefight in his entire professional career, and Duran would certainly have had the tools to pull him in one at 147lbs. When a fighter closes the distance, Manny always seems to get pulled on the ropes. In spots against Barrera that was the case, and it certainly occurred against Morales and even Cotto in spots. Duran was twice as effective as any of those aforementioned fighters in close, and would certainly have a field day with a stationary target.

Manny would be competitive early on - his athletic ability and hand speed will find the target, but once Duran starts to close the distance, Manny seems to struggle on the inside. Well you say he still a punchers chance, but Duran took full bloodied left hooks from a gigantic Middleweight in Iran Barkley. That was past his prime, and there's no way in hell Manny has ever been proven to hit in the same vicinity as a Thomas Hearns.

The smart money is on Roberto Duran. I think Chavez also beats Manny at 135lbs for the reasons I just mentioned, and Duran has better hand speed and was scarily good at going into the jaws of the lion and getting out without being hit cleanly to often. A good short compact puncher who's tough and strong enough to fend off Pacquiao's onslaught will be very effective I feel.
On paper Duran ruins him on the inside. Think about it, Manny Pacquiao is no technician whatsoever, well recently you've got some pivoting of the foot to turn his man, and that's it in his whole career from a technical standpoint. Here's where the likes of Pachilles thinks i'm being a Durantard, but no, Pacquiao is a force of nature and i recognize him for that. Let me say this though, his only chance here would be the same as what has been occurring in his actual career, where what is on paper is not what is reality and he's simply a force of nature that proves too much once again. I really don't see it personally.

Pacquiao's a great fighter and a monster in a fight. I don't understand why people are getting pissed off because we're picking FUCKING ROBERTO DURAN over him. It's silly.

[Addie]

On paper Duran ruins him on the inside. Think about it, Manny Pacquiao is no technician whatsoever, well recently you've got some pivoting of the foot to turn his man, and that's it in his whole career from a technical standpoint. Here's where the likes of Pachilles thinks i'm being a Durantard, but no, Pacquiao is a force of nature and i recognize him for that. Let me say this though, his only chance here would be the same as what has been occurring in his actual career, where what is on paper is not what is reality and he's simply a force of nature that proves too much once again. I really don't see it personally.

Pacquiao's a great fighter and a monster in a fight. I don't understand why people are getting pissed off because we're picking FUCKING ROBERTO DURAN over him. It's silly.

Safe to say, we all pick Duran to beat Hatton, Cotto, and Marquez comfortably.

And not to worry about the Classic, some people were suggesting Manny would have been very competitive with Ray Leonard at 147lbs. I think the Classic is certainly past it's prime.

[teeto]

Safe to say, we all pick Duran to beat Hatton, Cotto, and Marquez comfortably.

And not to worry about the Classic, some people were suggesting Manny would have been very competitive with Ray Leonard at 147lbs. I think the Classic is certainly past it's prime.
Yeah i posted in the Pac-Leonard one a while ago.

I would LOVE to see Duran-Hatton, i'll be dreaming for a week now.

[Addie]

Yeah i posted in the Pac-Leonard one a while ago.

I would LOVE to see Duran-Hatton, i'll be dreaming for a week now.

I don't think it would last to long.

[Vanboxingfan]

Yeah i posted in the Pac-Leonard one a while ago.

I would LOVE to see Duran-Hatton, i'll be dreaming for a week now.


We'd all be enjoying it for the short time it lasted.

[Pachilles]

It's a funny post but it's a shambles. I hate how it's so hard to have a decent debate between a 'classic poster' and a 'general poster'. But this is one unbiased muthafucka who is replying to you here Pachilles, you only need to read my posts in this thread to see that. So if you'd like to discuss this hypothetical match properly with me i'd be more than happy to. No bullshit though.

Okay then, I believe that Duran is a beast and Pacquiao is a machine, both are ultra aggresive and any technical exchange would quickly turn into a brawl, Pac is faster at 147lbs and would frustrate Duran by moving in and back out, being a beast it'd cause Duran to get wreckless at times, expending more energy with the added risk of a flash KD. Pac, being a machine and having better stamina would carry on doing what he does, damage would accumulate and Duran might be stopped in the last couple of rounds. If it goes the distance, Duran picks up some earlier rounds, but the gap just gets wider and wider in Pacquiao's favour after the 6th.

[Addie]

Okay then, I believe that Duran is a beast and Pacquiao is a machine, both are ultra aggresive and any technical exchange would quickly turn into a brawl, Pac is faster at 147lbs and would frustrate Duran by moving in and back out, being a beast it'd cause Duran to get wreckless at times, expending more energy with the added risk of a flash KO. Pac, being a machine and having better stamina would carry on doing what he does, damage would accumulate and Duran might be stopped in the last couple of rounds. If it goes the distance, Duran picks up some earlier rounds, but the gap just gets wider and wider in Pacquiao's favour after the 6th.

Duran had the capacity to stand off and counter effectively. Pacquiao has the tendency to lead in with his head and sometimes telegraph his punches. I don't think it's out of the realms of possibility that Duran gets the better of the exchanges in the center of the ring.

[Vanboxingfan]

Okay then, I believe that Duran is a beast and Pacquiao is a machine, both are ultra aggresive and any technical exchange would quickly turn into a brawl, Pac is faster at 147lbs and would frustrate Duran by moving in and back out, being a beast it'd cause Duran to get wreckless at times, expending more energy with the added risk of a flash KO. Pac, being a machine and having better stamina would carry on doing what he does, damage would accumulate and Duran might be stopped in the last couple of rounds. If it goes the distance, Duran picks up some earlier rounds, but the gap just gets wider and wider in Pacquiao's favour after the 6th.

I think Duran's defensive skills play a huge role in this fight. Duran is far better at making an opponent miss, staying in the pocket and firing back something meaningful. He made a career out of doing this, and it would show in this fight.

This fight is not just about speed, power and who's faster, it's also very much about who's catching what.

[Addie]

I think Duran's defensive skills play a huge roll in this fight. Duran is far better at making an opponent miss, staying in the pocket and firing back something meaningful. He made a career out of doing this, and it would show in this fight.

This fight is not just about speed, power and who's faster, it's also very much about who's catching what.

:good That's what I mean when I said he was good at going into the jaws of the lion and coming out clean. Swim without getting wet might be a better analogy. I called the man a subtle genius yesterday and it's obvious why, some people limit him as an aggressive powerhouse. He was so much more than that. He countered the breaks off Barkley.

[teeto]

Okay then, I believe that Duran is a beast and Pacquiao is a machine, both are ultra aggresive and any technical exchange would quickly turn into a brawl, Pac is faster at 147lbs and would frustrate Duran by moving in and back out, being a beast it'd cause Duran to get wreckless at times, expending more energy with the added risk of a flash KD. Pac, being a machine and having better stamina would carry on doing what he does, damage would accumulate and Duran might be stopped in the last couple of rounds. If it goes the distance, Duran picks up some earlier rounds, but the gap just gets wider and wider in Pacquiao's favour after the 6th.
Thanks for the level headed reply there. But in terms of your opinion i heavily disagree. You're overrating Pacquiao's in and out movement imo. He's not a lateral mover and the reason the movement has looked so effective imo recently is because he's initially walked right into opponents and shocked the shit out of them with his heavy shots and they're just backing off and become a target. That's what happened with Cotto for sure. Not to disrespect that which was a great win for Pacquiao, but it dosen't really have a bearing here.

When you say that the technical gulf wouldn't be a factor because it would be a brawl is the part which throws me off the most though. When peole talk of Duran being technically sublime they're not talking about him boxing at distance or weaving a pattern of magic around the ring with footwork. Duran is techincally amazing right where this fight would be, close quarters. I don't mean to sound a prick here but that makes me think you haven't really analyzed Roberto Duran. His right hand from distance is one of the best too,s in history at closing distance quickly, and it's never telegraphed, his shoulder doesn't move, the shot just lands and can be sickening, next thing the opponent knows he's being ripped underneath and over the top in fours and fives and all athe while Duran is evading shots. He combined offence and defence better than even Mike Tyson and THAT is where technical brilliance lies, in the 'brawl'

Like i said, i just find it hard to get my head round that you're getting so pissed off over Duran being picked here. Pacquiao would very well beat many a great fighter imo, but it's just that he's being discussed against Duran here. Regular classic posters have picked him over quality fighters here before, he gets his credit here. We're just not getting carried away.

I don't see Pacquiao emulating the performance of Dejesus here, not because he's not as good, just because he fought totally different. And i think the whole Pacquiao being light years better technically now is overrated. He's just more composed, instead of rushing his man, he's taking a look at them and smashing them with fast combos. It's quality and it's great but it gets categorized wrong.

That's my opinion.

[Pachilles]

Pacquiao is not standing right infront of him at close range though..he's darting in and out extremely quickly. Even if Pacquiao's combinations will hit, please don't make Duran out to be a defensive wizard...they will hit and they will hurt and they will piss Duran off. I don't see Duran holding back and countering, i see him getting frustrated and rushing Pac after he darts back out, then getting countered with hook.

[Addie]

Pacquiao is not standing right infront of him at close range though..he's darting in and out extremely quickly. Even if Pacquiao's combinations will hit, please don't make Duran out to be a defensive wizard...they will hit and they will hurt and they will piss Duran off. I don't see Duran holding back and countering, i see him getting frustrated and rushing Pac after he darts back out, then getting countered with hook.

Yeah because in the Cotto fight, Manny was constantly dartin' in and out? He was laying on the ropes for periods of up to 30-40 seconds at a time in spots. He can't expect to do that against Duran and go unpunished. Show me a fight where Manny is constantly moving throughout the whole fight.

[teeto]

Yeah because in the Cotto fight, Manny was constantly dartin' in and out? He was laying on the ropes for periods of up to 30-40 seconds at a time in spots. He can't expect to do that against Duran and go unpunished. Show me a fight where Manny is constantly moving throughout the whole fight.
Exactly. It's mad how people get carried away with this technical improvement.

[teeto]

I'm waiting for a reply here so i can log off for the night!

[Pachilles]

Wrote that las post before i got to read your reply teeto. The reason it pisses me off, this is in no way an isolated incident. Go get every single topic Duran related on here and see every fighter involved discredited, go to every single Leonard thread and see it turn into a Duran thread and see every other fight but Duran be discredited. The only reason Thomas Hearns and Leonard aren't recognised as top 10 P4P fighters is because Duran the no.1 fan favourite of all time, and these two made him look silly. You'd think it would've had an opposite effect.

[Pachilles]

Yeah because in the Cotto fight, Manny was constantly dartin' in and out? He was laying on the ropes for periods of up to 30-40 seconds at a time in spots. He can't expect to do that against Duran and go unpunished. Show me a fight where Manny is constantly moving throughout the whole fight.

What, you mean when he was laid on the ropes, inviting Cotto to lace into him? And not being hurt by it at all. When Pac was laying on the ropes, it was silly, but Cotto was a beaten man already. Cotto is a great fighter, and gave him a great fight early on despite being knocked down twice. The rest of the fight didn't really require much technical movement, it required him to do 300 laps hopping round the ring after him(no disrespect to Cotto)

[teeto]

Wrote that las post before i got to read your reply teeto. The reason it pisses me off, this is in no way an isolated incident. Go get every single topic Duran related on here and see every fighter involved discredited, go to every single Leonard thread and see it turn into a Duran thread and see every other fight but Duran be discredited. The only reason Thomas Hearns and Leonard aren't recognised as top 10 P4P fighters is because Duran the no.1 fan favourite of all time, and these two made him look silly. You'd think it would've had an opposite effect.
I know what you mean in that he really seems to be loved on here now. I've seen people here pick Kid Gavilan and Jose Napoles over him though. Maybe that's no consolation for you. I don't think he was the very best ever, but i've got to admit he's up there for me at his best.

Thanks for the reply though i respect your posting now. Just not your shit opinions (only joking haha)

[teeto]

What, you mean when he was laid on the ropes, inviting Cotto to lace into him? And not being hurt by it at all. When Pac was laying on the ropes, it was silly, but Cotto was a beaten man already. Cotto is a great fighter, and gave him a great fight early on despite being knocked down twice. The rest of the fight didn't really require much technical movement, it required him to do 300 laps hopping round the ring after him(no disrespect to Cotto)
Come on man it's a great win for Pacquiao but Cotto's not a great fighter.

[RickyRicardo]

what happen wit Benitez Hearns & Leonard with Duran? no one saw that. Manny decision over Mr excuse duran and i am not even mentioning how easy it would be if Money Mayweather fought duran

[teeto]

what happen wit Benitez Hearns & Leonard with Duran? no one saw that. Manny decision over Mr excuse duran and i am not even mentioning how easy it would be if Money Mayweather fought duran
You know what you're right. Pacquiao would stop Duran when i think about it. It's them right hooks, they'd land all day, together with the footwork it's a no brainer. And Mayweather would beat Leonard, his footwork's too good.

Now go to sleep.

[RickyRicardo]

You know what you're right. Pacquiao would stop Duran when i think about it. It's them right hooks, they'd land all day, together with the footwork it's a no brainer. And Mayweather would beat Leonard, his footwork's too good.

Now go to sleep.hey if duran won the fights with the 3 hearns ray and wilfred you could have dismised it and said go to sleep but he lost easy to them all and you say he would beat manny p people just want to see what they want to see without really thinking about it the fights with the three above says it all and duran would not have the speed against pac and lose a decision as he would to money mayweather also. the 0 speaks for it all undefeated!!!!!!!!!!! speed was durans kriptonite and manny and money have it baby!!!!

[teeto]

hey if duran won the fights with the 3 hearns ray and wilfred you could have dismised it and said go to sleep but he lost easy to them all and you say he would beat manny p people just want to see what they want to see without really thinking about it the fights with the three above says it all and duran would not have the speed against pac and lose a decision as he would to money mayweather also. the 0 speaks for it all undefeated!!!!!!!!!!! speed was durans kriptonite and manny and money have it baby!!!!
I was going to have a discussion with you then until i saw the 0 says it all.

It's sleep time, you're tired.

[Pachilles]

Come on man it's a great win for Pacquiao but Cotto's not a great fighter.

I think he's a great fighter, he's very fluid and his speed is underrated. And at jr welter/welterweight he has proved it, he has fought everybody that matters and won. He probably has the most depth in his resume out of any active fighter today. He lost to Margo with a pair of bricks and he lost to Pacquiao(who i believe is something special.

Maybe i'm selling Duran short and need to watch more of his earlier fights, but im not your average Pactard. See my posts on Morales, DLH, Barrera and Cotto and see how highly i regard them. Those fights were hard for me to watch. Thats 4 of my top ten favourite fighters and they've made me a believer in Pacquiao. No matter how fanatical some philipino's are, he definatley doesnt get his props around here. 106lbs is like my 13 year old sister and he's blitzed his way through to 147lbs

[teeto]

I think he's a great fighter, he's very fluid and his speed is underrated. And at jr welter/welterweight he has proved it, he has fought everybody that matters and won. He probably has the most depth in his resume out of any active fighter today. He lost to Margo with a pair of bricks and he lost to Pacquiao(who i believe is something special.

Maybe i'm selling Duran short and need to watch more of his earlier fights, but im not your average Pactard. See my posts on Morales, DLH, Barrera and Cotto and see how highly i regard them. Those fights were hard for me to watch. Thats 4 of my top ten favourite fighters and they've made me a believer in Pacquiao. No matter how fanatical some philipino's are, he definatley doesnt get his props around here. 106lbs is like my 13 year old sister and he's blitzed his way through to 147lbs
Yeah i can see you're not some idiot Pactard for sure. I'm a Pac fan myself. If you do decide to watch more of Duran you'll really like it, it's mind blowing some of his footage. Pacquiao's a great fighter and it can't be questioned, technical or not. Like i always say, the way a fight turns out on paper a dam lot of the time is not how it turns out for real, some fighters are just of a higher caliiber.

I think that Cotto is one of the best examples of educated pressure in the world, it's quality to watch. But i wouldn't pick him over any of history's bona fide greats personally. There's a stamina/mental problem there.

[Boxed Ears]

Come on man it's a great win for Pacquiao but Cotto's not a great fighter.

Well, I've said before and I'll put my two cents in again. I think of Cotto as a borderline great fighter. Meaning I can understand if you see it in him and I can understand if you don't. Coming out of a damn fair amateur background having been an Olympian, the guy beat 10 or more world champions and is something like 13-2 in world title fights in two weight classes. His two losses come from an ATG who seems to be in his prime and a guy who very possibly loaded his gloves. Flawed? Well, yes. He sure is. But how many champions aren't? Look at the guy's competition at welterweight. Mosley, Clottey, Judah, Pacquiao, Margarito and Quintana. He hasn't had many fights but they've been consistently high quality. If you don't consider him a great fighter, it's certainly no biggie but I don't consider great to be a laughable adjective for him. He may not even be done yet as far as big wins are concerned. I think he very well might be but you never know. He could change some minds yet.

[RickyRicardo]

I was going to have a discussion with you then until i saw the 0 says it all.

It's sleep time, you're tired.who cares if we talk dude you know you cannot argue with speed and the 0 and are you saying leonard benitez & hearns are that much faster than Manny P. or Money May? those are guys who beat duran with ease and my boys Manny and money are just as fasts

[RickyRicardo]

Yeah i can see you're not some idiot Pactard for sure. I'm a Pac fan myself. If you do decide to watch more of Duran you'll really like it, it's mind blowing some of his footage. Pacquiao's a great fighter and it can't be questioned, technical or not. Like i always say, the way a fight turns out on paper a dam lot of the time is not how it turns out for real, some fighters are just of a higher caliiber.

I think that Cotto is one of the best examples of educated pressure in the world, it's quality to watch. But i wouldn't pick him over any of history's bona fide greats personally. There's a stamina/mental problem there.Manny P blows minds also when you show him beating overrated tomato cans hahahahahaha and duran lost to hearns and benitez two guys who are not as fast as manny and money

[Addie]

Either this guy is an alias or one of the worst posters of the new century.

[Pachilles]

Manny P blows minds also when you show him beating overrated tomato cans hahahahahaha and duran lost to hearns and benitez two guys who are not as fast as manny and money

Name of a famous comedian and overstating the most valuable asset a fighter has with your obvious sarcasm, as if its overrated. Bigging up the two favourite fighters of the General Discussion because theyre considered overrated here and adding depth to your lack of credibility by typing like what you consider, is typing like a retard.

I'm not impressed:verysad

[Meast]

Either this guy is an alias or one of the worst posters of the new century.

Alias for sure, no one can be that dumb :patsch

[Meast]

Maybe i'm selling Duran short and need to watch more of his earlier fights

Which Duran fights have you seen?

You should definitely watch Buchanan, De Jesus x3 and the Hector Thomas fights if you haven't already..that's just to name a few. :good

[Addie]

Duran blows the shit off of Palamino. Nobody could watch that and not come away with a rejuvenated perception of the Hands of Stone.

[Meast]

Duran blows the shit off of Palamino. Nobody could watch that and not come away with a rejuvenated perception of the Hands of Stone.

Yeah Palomino is another good one!

[PetethePrince]

Pac could catch Duran and trouble him.

But I pick Duran, I'm just saying Pac has more of a chance than some might suggest.

[Addie]

Okay Prince Petey, thanks for that. :)

[Meast]

Pac could catch Duran and trouble him.

But I pick Duran, I'm just saying Pac has more of a chance than some might suggest.

Yeah I think Pac does have a decent chance, I imagine he'd cause Duran some problems for the first 2-3 rounds but not enough to cause an upset.

[RickyRicardo]

dude who cares if you are impressed Watch how slow Roberto Durans is with hearns and benitez and leonard and see how duran does with speed and people see no way he cannot handle speed of Manny p and Money. Watch it!!! yeah tyson has no chance beating Duran and neither does joe louis because Duran never lost hahahahahah!!!!!!

[Meast]

dude who cares if you are impressed Watch how slow Roberto Durans is with hearns and benitez and leonard and see how duran does with speed and people see no way he cannot handle speed of Manny p and Money. Watch it!!! yeah tyson has no chance beating Duran and neither does joe louis because Duran never lost hahahahahah!!!!!!

:lol:

[Sweet Pea]

Floyd lost to a poor man's Chavez.:lol:

[RickyRicardo]

:lol:laugh all you want cuz for a guy who every one says is so great he sure lost to them all he lost to hit me hearns and benitez and leonard do not match up to a great like pacman and money mayweather who has 0 losses. hearns and duran combine for 21 losses hahahahah yeah they are as great as money mayweather!!!!!!!! i am the one laughing!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[RickyRicardo]

Floyd lost to a poor man's Chavez.:lol:0 losses for Money Maywather and 16 for Duran and 5 for Hearns!!!!!!!!!!! 0 for money!!! how many does mayweather have?? say again 0 losses!!!!!

[Meast]

laugh all you want cuz for a guy who every one says is so great he sure lost to them all he lost to hit me hearns and benitez and leonard do not match up to a great like pacman and money mayweather who has 0 losses. hearns and duran combine for 21 losses hahahahah yeah they are as great as money mayweather!!!!!!!! i am the one laughing!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Yup, keep laughing away.

[MAG1965]

0 losses for Money Maywather and 16 for Duran and 5 for Hearns!!!!!!!!!!! 0 for money!!! how many does mayweather have?? say again 0 losses!!!!!I think a fighter who has no losses after a long enough career is evidence of a bit of handpicking. Losses are normal if you fight the best. Floyd Mayweather has not been fighting the best. I would have respected Floyd more if he had 2 losses and didn't handpick.

[Boxed Ears]

0 losses for Money Maywather and 16 for Duran and 5 for Hearns!!!!!!!!!!! 0 for money!!! how many does mayweather have?? say again 0 losses!!!!!

If Mayweather fights up at Super Middleweight in his forties and takes on people on the level of Benitez, Leonard, Hagler and Hearns, hits triple digit fight totals, we will start talking about some shit, trollman.

[RickyRicardo]

mosley is just as great as hit me Hearns and mr excuse Duran and how many loses will money Mayweather have after that fight? count em!!!!!!!! 0!!!!!!! hearns 5 losses duran 16!!!!!!!!! money 0!!!!!!!!!

[RickyRicardo]

mayweather o will not go!!!!!!!! he is just so good and still champ money maywather!!!!!!!!

[Morrissey]

I imagine making polls like this is masturbation to classic posters. Bottom line is Pacquiao has destroyed legends, literally destroyed and ended their competative careers, coming up from 106lbs to 147lbs, 7 divisions. Whilst Duran on the other hand, had one single night over a legend(Montreal Duran beats prime Ali, Lewis, Loius, Tyson in same night), and then against other legends was anniahlated, embarassingly quit like a bitch and was outboxed and outclassed.

Duran clearly wins this poll on here, it didnt need to be asked, it was put up because of the small doses of logic seeping through in recent posts which threatens his God status amongst armchair critics in this tiny corner of the internet. Duran is the king of excuses, no excuse is questioned on here and more are made up, his losses are never acknowledged or accepted in debates, theyre always ignored or excused.

Pacquiao on the other hand is spited on here, because of the current buzz surrounding his achievements, which are nothing short of amazing. Theres a billion excuses for his victims and self proclaimed experts claim they already knew the outcome, althoughhe's been the underdog in most major fights, his opponents all of sudden become shot, or were never that good, because Pac has destroyed them.

This is how i see the fight playing out. Duran comes into the fight in perfect shape(after the fight Durantards claim he was shot and past his prime, didnt train at all, was drinking heavily and had a poorly tummy). Duran and Pacquaio rush each other, clashing heads, Pacquiao's is cut above the eye and is bullied into the corner, after taking numerous hooks and uppercuts he wildly fires back, flooring Duran. Duran beats the count and survives the first round by grappling. Over the next three rounds, halted from advancing in fear of Pacquiao's power he tasted in the first, Pacquiao rushes in and out peppering Duran with dazzling flurries and straight lefts. In the last minute of the 4th, frustrated, Duran intentionally low blows Pacquiao, then rushes in a furious rage attempting to capitalise on the winded Pac. Pac fires an eight punch combo in return and floors Duran once more. Duran beats the count and survives the round. Coming out for the fifth, Duran eats 5 consecutive unaswered straights, demoralised and weak hearted, he calls it quits at :057 in the 5th round.

As Pacquiao is raised upon the shoulders of his entourage, two bullets are fired into his sternum. The 3 gunmen are taken down by members of the crowd. They are later found out to be anarci and a couple of un-named essays. They are charge with attemped murder, as Pacquiao survives and recovers, then 6 months later is crowned an 8 division titlist, winning the WBA junior middleweight crown.

Duranimal is found dead at home in his bedroom at 04:37 AM on June 20th, The Brawl in Montreal was still playing on windows media player, it was set to repeat. Naked, upside down on his computer chair, the coroner's report stated that his throat was redened, a sign of choking, his neck had spasmed and dislocated his spine in three places. Upside down and unable to move, he had drowned on his own semen. Margarita and viagra were found in his blood stream.

Stonehands89 re-evaultated the Gods of War ranking, replacing Duran with Pacquiao as the no.5 spot. After posting the article on the ESB Classic Forum, his account was suspended by a Moderator and he wasn't heard from again, until ten years later, when he appeared as a columnist for the Ring magasine.

Sweet Pea found the bottom of a bottle. Homeless and intoxicated, he was later recruited and brought in by The Morlocks, who had since become the Chief executive to a Scientology based offshoot religion, known as Duranology. After 5 years of constant revision of all Duran available Duran fight tapes, they finally realised that he was never actually as good as they had first percieved, and was certainly no Top 20 P4P fighter. Along with bohdi, boxed ears, my2sense, mcgrain, teeto, popkins and powerpuncher, mass suicide was carried out, in a secluded farmhouse somewhere abouts the Panamanian countryside.

Fleaman jumped ship, aboard a galleon owned by the last remaining credible poster he could leech knowledge off, MAG185. A fair and honest non-believer. Fleaman became a Duran hater.

As for me, I enrolled in a college course, and, although it was hard, I gutted it out like I always did. I went on to college and eventually became a lawyer. Last week I entered a fast food restaurant. Just ahead of me, two men got into an argument—one of them pulled a knife. Being me, who had always made the best peace, tried to break it up. I was stabbed in the throat. I died almost instantly. I was a Pactard till the end.

Very funny.:lol:

On a side note, If it was Pacquaio who lost, who are the posters you shall include in the suicide act?

[MAG1965]

I imagine making polls like this is masturbation to classic posters. Bottom line is Pacquiao has destroyed legends, literally destroyed and ended their competative careers, coming up from 106lbs to 147lbs, 7 divisions. Whilst Duran on the other hand, had one single night over a legend(Montreal Duran beats prime Ali, Lewis, Loius, Tyson in same night), and then against other legends was anniahlated, embarassingly quit like a bitch and was outboxed and outclassed.

Duran clearly wins this poll on here, it didnt need to be asked, it was put up because of the small doses of logic seeping through in recent posts which threatens his God status amongst armchair critics in this tiny corner of the internet. Duran is the king of excuses, no excuse is questioned on here and more are made up, his losses are never acknowledged or accepted in debates, theyre always ignored or excused.

Pacquiao on the other hand is spited on here, because of the current buzz surrounding his achievements, which are nothing short of amazing. Theres a billion excuses for his victims and self proclaimed experts claim they already knew the outcome, althoughhe's been the underdog in most major fights, his opponents all of sudden become shot, or were never that good, because Pac has destroyed them.

This is how i see the fight playing out. Duran comes into the fight in perfect shape(after the fight Durantards claim he was shot and past his prime, didnt train at all, was drinking heavily and had a poorly tummy). Duran and Pacquaio rush each other, clashing heads, Pacquiao's is cut above the eye and is bullied into the corner, after taking numerous hooks and uppercuts he wildly fires back, flooring Duran. Duran beats the count and survives the first round by grappling. Over the next three rounds, halted from advancing in fear of Pacquiao's power he tasted in the first, Pacquiao rushes in and out peppering Duran with dazzling flurries and straight lefts. In the last minute of the 4th, frustrated, Duran intentionally low blows Pacquiao, then rushes in a furious rage attempting to capitalise on the winded Pac. Pac fires an eight punch combo in return and floors Duran once more. Duran beats the count and survives the round. Coming out for the fifth, Duran eats 5 consecutive unaswered straights, demoralised and weak hearted, he calls it quits at :057 in the 5th round.

As Pacquiao is raised upon the shoulders of his entourage, two bullets are fired into his sternum. The 3 gunmen are taken down by members of the crowd. They are later found out to be anarci and a couple of un-named essays. They are charge with attemped murder, as Pacquiao survives and recovers, then 6 months later is crowned an 8 division titlist, winning the WBA junior middleweight crown.

Duranimal is found dead at home in his bedroom at 04:37 AM on June 20th, The Brawl in Montreal was still playing on windows media player, it was set to repeat. Naked, upside down on his computer chair, the coroner's report stated that his throat was redened, a sign of choking, his neck had spasmed and dislocated his spine in three places. Upside down and unable to move, he had drowned on his own semen. Margarita and viagra were found in his blood stream.

Stonehands89 re-evaultated the Gods of War ranking, replacing Duran with Pacquiao as the no.5 spot. After posting the article on the ESB Classic Forum, his account was suspended by a Moderator and he wasn't heard from again, until ten years later, when he appeared as a columnist for the Ring magasine.

Sweet Pea found the bottom of a bottle. Homeless and intoxicated, he was later recruited and brought in by The Morlocks, who had since become the Chief executive to a Scientology based offshoot religion, known as Duranology. After 5 years of constant revision of all Duran available Duran fight tapes, they finally realised that he was never actually as good as they had first percieved, and was certainly no Top 20 P4P fighter. Along with bohdi, boxed ears, my2sense, mcgrain, teeto, popkins and powerpuncher, mass suicide was carried out, in a secluded farmhouse somewhere abouts the Panamanian countryside.

Fleaman jumped ship, aboard a galleon owned by the last remaining credible poster he could leech knowledge off, MAG185. A fair and honest non-believer. Fleaman became a Duran hater.

As for me, I enrolled in a college course, and, although it was hard, I gutted it out like I always did. I went on to college and eventually became a lawyer. Last week I entered a fast food restaurant. Just ahead of me, two men got into an argument—one of them pulled a knife. Being me, who had always made the best peace, tried to break it up. I was stabbed in the throat. I died almost instantly. I was a Pactard till the end.is that me who is mentioned owning a galleon? or another mag? I saw the mag part and thought wait that could be me. Well thanks for adding me to your story if it was mentioning me.

[essexboy]

I imagine making polls like this is masturbation to classic posters. Bottom line is Pacquiao has destroyed legends, literally destroyed and ended their competative careers, coming up from 106lbs to 147lbs, 7 divisions. Whilst Duran on the other hand, had one single night over a legend(Montreal Duran beats prime Ali, Lewis, Loius, Tyson in same night), and then against other legends was anniahlated, embarassingly quit like a bitch and was outboxed and outclassed.

Duran clearly wins this poll on here, it didnt need to be asked, it was put up because of the small doses of logic seeping through in recent posts which threatens his God status amongst armchair critics in this tiny corner of the internet. Duran is the king of excuses, no excuse is questioned on here and more are made up, his losses are never acknowledged or accepted in debates, theyre always ignored or excused.

Pacquiao on the other hand is spited on here, because of the current buzz surrounding his achievements, which are nothing short of amazing. Theres a billion excuses for his victims and self proclaimed experts claim they already knew the outcome, althoughhe's been the underdog in most major fights, his opponents all of sudden become shot, or were never that good, because Pac has destroyed them.

This is how i see the fight playing out. Duran comes into the fight in perfect shape(after the fight Durantards claim he was shot and past his prime, didnt train at all, was drinking heavily and had a poorly tummy). Duran and Pacquaio rush each other, clashing heads, Pacquiao's is cut above the eye and is bullied into the corner, after taking numerous hooks and uppercuts he wildly fires back, flooring Duran. Duran beats the count and survives the first round by grappling. Over the next three rounds, halted from advancing in fear of Pacquiao's power he tasted in the first, Pacquiao rushes in and out peppering Duran with dazzling flurries and straight lefts. In the last minute of the 4th, frustrated, Duran intentionally low blows Pacquiao, then rushes in a furious rage attempting to capitalise on the winded Pac. Pac fires an eight punch combo in return and floors Duran once more. Duran beats the count and survives the round. Coming out for the fifth, Duran eats 5 consecutive unaswered straights, demoralised and weak hearted, he calls it quits at :057 in the 5th round.

As Pacquiao is raised upon the shoulders of his entourage, two bullets are fired into his sternum. The 3 gunmen are taken down by members of the crowd. They are later found out to be anarci and a couple of un-named essays. They are charge with attemped murder, as Pacquiao survives and recovers, then 6 months later is crowned an 8 division titlist, winning the WBA junior middleweight crown.

Duranimal is found dead at home in his bedroom at 04:37 AM on June 20th, The Brawl in Montreal was still playing on windows media player, it was set to repeat. Naked, upside down on his computer chair, the coroner's report stated that his throat was redened, a sign of choking, his neck had spasmed and dislocated his spine in three places. Upside down and unable to move, he had drowned on his own semen. Margarita and viagra were found in his blood stream.

Stonehands89 re-evaultated the Gods of War ranking, replacing Duran with Pacquiao as the no.5 spot. After posting the article on the ESB Classic Forum, his account was suspended by a Moderator and he wasn't heard from again, until ten years later, when he appeared as a columnist for the Ring magasine.

Sweet Pea found the bottom of a bottle. Homeless and intoxicated, he was later recruited and brought in by The Morlocks, who had since become the Chief executive to a Scientology based offshoot religion, known as Duranology. After 5 years of constant revision of all Duran available Duran fight tapes, they finally realised that he was never actually as good as they had first percieved, and was certainly no Top 20 P4P fighter. Along with bohdi, boxed ears, my2sense, mcgrain, teeto, popkins and powerpuncher, mass suicide was carried out, in a secluded farmhouse somewhere abouts the Panamanian countryside.

Fleaman jumped ship, aboard a galleon owned by the last remaining credible poster he could leech knowledge off, MAG185. A fair and honest non-believer. Fleaman became a Duran hater.

As for me, I enrolled in a college course, and, although it was hard, I gutted it out like I always did. I went on to college and eventually became a lawyer. Last week I entered a fast food restaurant. Just ahead of me, two men got into an argument—one of them pulled a knife. Being me, who had always made the best peace, tried to break it up. I was stabbed in the throat. I died almost instantly. I was a Pactard till the end.

Very good actually made me laugh out loud at points, the funniest bit was the fight prediction though.

[Addie]

Look whoever has this alias...fuck off.

[PH|LLA]

I imagine making polls like this is masturbation to classic posters. Bottom line is Pacquiao has destroyed legends, literally destroyed and ended their competative careers, coming up from 106lbs to 147lbs, 7 divisions. Whilst Duran on the other hand, had one single night over a legend(Montreal Duran beats prime Ali, Lewis, Loius, Tyson in same night), and then against other legends was anniahlated, embarassingly quit like a bitch and was outboxed and outclassed.

Duran clearly wins this poll on here, it didnt need to be asked, it was put up because of the small doses of logic seeping through in recent posts which threatens his God status amongst armchair critics in this tiny corner of the internet. Duran is the king of excuses, no excuse is questioned on here and more are made up, his losses are never acknowledged or accepted in debates, theyre always ignored or excused.

Pacquiao on the other hand is spited on here, because of the current buzz surrounding his achievements, which are nothing short of amazing. Theres a billion excuses for his victims and self proclaimed experts claim they already knew the outcome, althoughhe's been the underdog in most major fights, his opponents all of sudden become shot, or were never that good, because Pac has destroyed them.

This is how i see the fight playing out. Duran comes into the fight in perfect shape(after the fight Durantards claim he was shot and past his prime, didnt train at all, was drinking heavily and had a poorly tummy). Duran and Pacquaio rush each other, clashing heads, Pacquiao's is cut above the eye and is bullied into the corner, after taking numerous hooks and uppercuts he wildly fires back, flooring Duran. Duran beats the count and survives the first round by grappling. Over the next three rounds, halted from advancing in fear of Pacquiao's power he tasted in the first, Pacquiao rushes in and out peppering Duran with dazzling flurries and straight lefts. In the last minute of the 4th, frustrated, Duran intentionally low blows Pacquiao, then rushes in a furious rage attempting to capitalise on the winded Pac. Pac fires an eight punch combo in return and floors Duran once more. Duran beats the count and survives the round. Coming out for the fifth, Duran eats 5 consecutive unaswered straights, demoralised and weak hearted, he calls it quits at :057 in the 5th round.

As Pacquiao is raised upon the shoulders of his entourage, two bullets are fired into his sternum. The 3 gunmen are taken down by members of the crowd. They are later found out to be anarci and a couple of un-named essays. They are charge with attemped murder, as Pacquiao survives and recovers, then 6 months later is crowned an 8 division titlist, winning the WBA junior middleweight crown.

Duranimal is found dead at home in his bedroom at 04:37 AM on June 20th, The Brawl in Montreal was still playing on windows media player, it was set to repeat. Naked, upside down on his computer chair, the coroner's report stated that his throat was redened, a sign of choking, his neck had spasmed and dislocated his spine in three places. Upside down and unable to move, he had drowned on his own semen. Margarita and viagra were found in his blood stream.

Stonehands89 re-evaultated the Gods of War ranking, replacing Duran with Pacquiao as the no.5 spot. After posting the article on the ESB Classic Forum, his account was suspended by a Moderator and he wasn't heard from again, until ten years later, when he appeared as a columnist for the Ring magasine.

Sweet Pea found the bottom of a bottle. Homeless and intoxicated, he was later recruited and brought in by The Morlocks, who had since become the Chief executive to a Scientology based offshoot religion, known as Duranology. After 5 years of constant revision of all Duran available Duran fight tapes, they finally realised that he was never actually as good as they had first percieved, and was certainly no Top 20 P4P fighter. Along with bohdi, boxed ears, my2sense, mcgrain, teeto, popkins and powerpuncher, mass suicide was carried out, in a secluded farmhouse somewhere abouts the Panamanian countryside.

Fleaman jumped ship, aboard a galleon owned by the last remaining credible poster he could leech knowledge off, MAG185. A fair and honest non-believer. Fleaman became a Duran hater.

As for me, I enrolled in a college course, and, although it was hard, I gutted it out like I always did. I went on to college and eventually became a lawyer. Last week I entered a fast food restaurant. Just ahead of me, two men got into an argument—one of them pulled a knife. Being me, who had always made the best peace, tried to break it up. I was stabbed in the throat. I died almost instantly. I was a Pactard till the end.
lol epic

[mightyd40]

nice stand by me reference

[8count]

this is at welterweight. Duran was not at his best at that weight,
or we can pick the Duran that beat Leonard against the Manny who fought Cotto.

considering all that, it will be competitive (like a morales-barrera fight). People say Manny does well in the mid-ranges where he can dig his feet in and deliver 8punch combos that hurt. The way to beat him is in the distance and/or up-close, where his punches either can't reach or are too close to gather power. Manny doesn't know how to clinch properly and gets hit with short punches (uppercuts and hooks). All that favoring Duran.

I still see Manny as being more solid than Roberto at welterweight, but for these types of sluggers it could go either way depending on if Duran would corner Pac, or if Pac's footwork can dictate the fight in the mid-ranges.

I can't pick safely but I could understand the poll being overwhelmingly duran. Need more tips.

[Gesta]

I imagine making polls like this is masturbation to classic posters. Bottom line is Pacquiao has destroyed legends, literally destroyed and ended their competative careers, coming up from 106lbs to 147lbs, 7 divisions. Whilst Duran on the other hand, had one single night over a legend(Montreal Duran beats prime Ali, Lewis, Loius, Tyson in same night), and then against other legends was anniahlated, embarassingly quit like a bitch and was outboxed and outclassed.

Duran clearly wins this poll on here, it didnt need to be asked, it was put up because of the small doses of logic seeping through in recent posts which threatens his God status amongst armchair critics in this tiny corner of the internet. Duran is the king of excuses, no excuse is questioned on here and more are made up, his losses are never acknowledged or accepted in debates, theyre always ignored or excused.

Pacquiao on the other hand is spited on here, because of the current buzz surrounding his achievements, which are nothing short of amazing. Theres a billion excuses for his victims and self proclaimed experts claim they already knew the outcome, althoughhe's been the underdog in most major fights, his opponents all of sudden become shot, or were never that good, because Pac has destroyed them.

This is how i see the fight playing out. Duran comes into the fight in perfect shape(after the fight Durantards claim he was shot and past his prime, didnt train at all, was drinking heavily and had a poorly tummy). Duran and Pacquaio rush each other, clashing heads, Pacquiao's is cut above the eye and is bullied into the corner, after taking numerous hooks and uppercuts he wildly fires back, flooring Duran. Duran beats the count and survives the first round by grappling. Over the next three rounds, halted from advancing in fear of Pacquiao's power he tasted in the first, Pacquiao rushes in and out peppering Duran with dazzling flurries and straight lefts. In the last minute of the 4th, frustrated, Duran intentionally low blows Pacquiao, then rushes in a furious rage attempting to capitalise on the winded Pac. Pac fires an eight punch combo in return and floors Duran once more. Duran beats the count and survives the round. Coming out for the fifth, Duran eats 5 consecutive unaswered straights, demoralised and weak hearted, he calls it quits at :057 in the 5th round.

As Pacquiao is raised upon the shoulders of his entourage, two bullets are fired into his sternum. The 3 gunmen are taken down by members of the crowd. They are later found out to be anarci and a couple of un-named essays. They are charge with attemped murder, as Pacquiao survives and recovers, then 6 months later is crowned an 8 division titlist, winning the WBA junior middleweight crown.

Duranimal is found dead at home in his bedroom at 04:37 AM on June 20th, The Brawl in Montreal was still playing on windows media player, it was set to repeat. Naked, upside down on his computer chair, the coroner's report stated that his throat was redened, a sign of choking, his neck had spasmed and dislocated his spine in three places. Upside down and unable to move, he had drowned on his own semen. Margarita and viagra were found in his blood stream.

Stonehands89 re-evaultated the Gods of War ranking, replacing Duran with Pacquiao as the no.5 spot. After posting the article on the ESB Classic Forum, his account was suspended by a Moderator and he wasn't heard from again, until ten years later, when he appeared as a columnist for the Ring magasine.

Sweet Pea found the bottom of a bottle. Homeless and intoxicated, he was later recruited and brought in by The Morlocks, who had since become the Chief executive to a Scientology based offshoot religion, known as Duranology. After 5 years of constant revision of all Duran available Duran fight tapes, they finally realised that he was never actually as good as they had first percieved, and was certainly no Top 20 P4P fighter. Along with bohdi, boxed ears, my2sense, mcgrain, teeto, popkins and powerpuncher, mass suicide was carried out, in a secluded farmhouse somewhere abouts the Panamanian countryside.

Fleaman jumped ship, aboard a galleon owned by the last remaining credible poster he could leech knowledge off, MAG185. A fair and honest non-believer. Fleaman became a Duran hater.

As for me, I enrolled in a college course, and, although it was hard, I gutted it out like I always did. I went on to college and eventually became a lawyer. Last week I entered a fast food restaurant. Just ahead of me, two men got into an argument—one of them pulled a knife. Being me, who had always made the best peace, tried to break it up. I was stabbed in the throat. I died almost instantly. I was a Pactard till the end.

:lol::lol::lol:

Who's alt' are you.

:think:think:think

[Bill Butcher]

who wins this 12 rounder?

You should have did a public poll just so we could laugh at the dumbasses that voted Pac by KO.

I assume we are using the best versions of each men at 147 as always ?

OK.... no version of Pacquiao beats the Duran that beat Palomino or Leonard.

The End !

[Bill Butcher]

I imagine making polls like this is masturbation to classic posters. Bottom line is Pacquiao has destroyed legends, literally destroyed and ended their competative careers, coming up from 106lbs to 147lbs, 7 divisions. Whilst Duran on the other hand, had one single night over a legend(Montreal Duran beats prime Ali, Lewis, Loius, Tyson in same night), and then against other legends was anniahlated, embarassingly quit like a bitch and was outboxed and outclassed.

Duran clearly wins this poll on here, it didnt need to be asked, it was put up because of the small doses of logic seeping through in recent posts which threatens his God status amongst armchair critics in this tiny corner of the internet. Duran is the king of excuses, no excuse is questioned on here and more are made up, his losses are never acknowledged or accepted in debates, theyre always ignored or excused.

Pacquiao on the other hand is spited on here, because of the current buzz surrounding his achievements, which are nothing short of amazing. Theres a billion excuses for his victims and self proclaimed experts claim they already knew the outcome, althoughhe's been the underdog in most major fights, his opponents all of sudden become shot, or were never that good, because Pac has destroyed them.

This is how i see the fight playing out. Duran comes into the fight in perfect shape(after the fight Durantards claim he was shot and past his prime, didnt train at all, was drinking heavily and had a poorly tummy). Duran and Pacquaio rush each other, clashing heads, Pacquiao's is cut above the eye and is bullied into the corner, after taking numerous hooks and uppercuts he wildly fires back, flooring Duran. Duran beats the count and survives the first round by grappling. Over the next three rounds, halted from advancing in fear of Pacquiao's power he tasted in the first, Pacquiao rushes in and out peppering Duran with dazzling flurries and straight lefts. In the last minute of the 4th, frustrated, Duran intentionally low blows Pacquiao, then rushes in a furious rage attempting to capitalise on the winded Pac. Pac fires an eight punch combo in return and floors Duran once more. Duran beats the count and survives the round. Coming out for the fifth, Duran eats 5 consecutive unaswered straights, demoralised and weak hearted, he calls it quits at :057 in the 5th round.

As Pacquiao is raised upon the shoulders of his entourage, two bullets are fired into his sternum. The 3 gunmen are taken down by members of the crowd. They are later found out to be anarci and a couple of un-named essays. They are charge with attemped murder, as Pacquiao survives and recovers, then 6 months later is crowned an 8 division titlist, winning the WBA junior middleweight crown.

Duranimal is found dead at home in his bedroom at 04:37 AM on June 20th, The Brawl in Montreal was still playing on windows media player, it was set to repeat. Naked, upside down on his computer chair, the coroner's report stated that his throat was redened, a sign of choking, his neck had spasmed and dislocated his spine in three places. Upside down and unable to move, he had drowned on his own semen. Margarita and viagra were found in his blood stream.

Stonehands89 re-evaultated the Gods of War ranking, replacing Duran with Pacquiao as the no.5 spot. After posting the article on the ESB Classic Forum, his account was suspended by a Moderator and he wasn't heard from again, until ten years later, when he appeared as a columnist for the Ring magasine.

Sweet Pea found the bottom of a bottle. Homeless and intoxicated, he was later recruited and brought in by The Morlocks, who had since become the Chief executive to a Scientology based offshoot religion, known as Duranology. After 5 years of constant revision of all Duran available Duran fight tapes, they finally realised that he was never actually as good as they had first percieved, and was certainly no Top 20 P4P fighter. Along with bohdi, boxed ears, my2sense, mcgrain, teeto, popkins and powerpuncher, mass suicide was carried out, in a secluded farmhouse somewhere abouts the Panamanian countryside.

Fleaman jumped ship, aboard a galleon owned by the last remaining credible poster he could leech knowledge off, MAG185. A fair and honest non-believer. Fleaman became a Duran hater.

As for me, I enrolled in a college course, and, although it was hard, I gutted it out like I always did. I went on to college and eventually became a lawyer. Last week I entered a fast food restaurant. Just ahead of me, two men got into an argument—one of them pulled a knife. Being me, who had always made the best peace, tried to break it up. I was stabbed in the throat. I died almost instantly. I was a Pactard till the end.

:rofl

[teeto]

who cares if we talk dude you know you cannot argue with speed and the 0 and are you saying leonard benitez & hearns are that much faster than Manny P. or Money May? those are guys who beat duran with ease and my boys Manny and money are just as fasts
Okay then. You're talking about speed as if that automatically qualifies you for a schooling type win over Roberto Duran. You ever heard of Ken Buchanan? Not ultra fast but twice the moving boxer whilst putting bunches of shots together that Pacquiao is. It's not speed my friend that os the problem for Duran, he was beaten by guys who executed a perfect gameplan. He also beat guys who executed perfect gameplans. Your reasoning is ridiculous, picking out incidents and ignoring others. That's why i feel an idiot replying to you, but what can i say, i'm easily wound up.

Wilfred Benitez beat Duran at what would become one of the low points of his volatile career, and at 154 pounds when he had visibly declined. Don't deny this, you look at the man in his prime and then don't speak on that.

Where do Hearns, and Leonard compare to Pacquiao and Mayweather on a STYLISTIC level Ricky Retardo? Notice that i'm not saying Pacquiao and Mayweather are not as good or not as fast as Hearns and Leonard, i'm talking about how they fight.

Now stop pissing me off with these annoying debating techniques, it's shambolic.

[WhataRock]

Intelligent posts go way over his head teeto...Just let the faggot embarrass himself some more.

[teeto]

Intelligent posts go way over his head teeto...Just let the faggot embarrass himself some more.
Yeah haha, the post i replied to there was from page 4. I replied to it then saw everyone not even taking him serious on pages 5 and 6, so i feel a bit silly now! We should be able to delete deliberate (spellcheck?) trolling though, it ruins threads.

[The Morlocks]

I imagine making polls like this is masturbation to classic posters. Bottom line is Pacquiao has destroyed legends, literally destroyed and ended their competative careers, coming up from 106lbs to 147lbs, 7 divisions. Whilst Duran on the other hand, had one single night over a legend(Montreal Duran beats prime Ali, Lewis, Loius, Tyson in same night), and then against other legends was anniahlated, embarassingly quit like a bitch and was outboxed and outclassed.

Duran clearly wins this poll on here, it didnt need to be asked, it was put up because of the small doses of logic seeping through in recent posts which threatens his God status amongst armchair critics in this tiny corner of the internet. Duran is the king of excuses, no excuse is questioned on here and more are made up, his losses are never acknowledged or accepted in debates, theyre always ignored or excused.

Pacquiao on the other hand is spited on here, because of the current buzz surrounding his achievements, which are nothing short of amazing. Theres a billion excuses for his victims and self proclaimed experts claim they already knew the outcome, althoughhe's been the underdog in most major fights, his opponents all of sudden become shot, or were never that good, because Pac has destroyed them.

This is how i see the fight playing out. Duran comes into the fight in perfect shape(after the fight Durantards claim he was shot and past his prime, didnt train at all, was drinking heavily and had a poorly tummy). Duran and Pacquaio rush each other, clashing heads, Pacquiao's is cut above the eye and is bullied into the corner, after taking numerous hooks and uppercuts he wildly fires back, flooring Duran. Duran beats the count and survives the first round by grappling. Over the next three rounds, halted from advancing in fear of Pacquiao's power he tasted in the first, Pacquiao rushes in and out peppering Duran with dazzling flurries and straight lefts. In the last minute of the 4th, frustrated, Duran intentionally low blows Pacquiao, then rushes in a furious rage attempting to capitalise on the winded Pac. Pac fires an eight punch combo in return and floors Duran once more. Duran beats the count and survives the round. Coming out for the fifth, Duran eats 5 consecutive unaswered straights, demoralised and weak hearted, he calls it quits at :057 in the 5th round.

As Pacquiao is raised upon the shoulders of his entourage, two bullets are fired into his sternum. The 3 gunmen are taken down by members of the crowd. They are later found out to be anarci and a couple of un-named essays. They are charge with attemped murder, as Pacquiao survives and recovers, then 6 months later is crowned an 8 division titlist, winning the WBA junior middleweight crown.

Duranimal is found dead at home in his bedroom at 04:37 AM on June 20th, The Brawl in Montreal was still playing on windows media player, it was set to repeat. Naked, upside down on his computer chair, the coroner's report stated that his throat was redened, a sign of choking, his neck had spasmed and dislocated his spine in three places. Upside down and unable to move, he had drowned on his own semen. Margarita and viagra were found in his blood stream.

Stonehands89 re-evaultated the Gods of War ranking, replacing Duran with Pacquiao as the no.5 spot. After posting the article on the ESB Classic Forum, his account was suspended by a Moderator and he wasn't heard from again, until ten years later, when he appeared as a columnist for the Ring magasine.

Sweet Pea found the bottom of a bottle. Homeless and intoxicated, he was later recruited and brought in by The Morlocks, who had since become the Chief executive to a Scientology based offshoot religion, known as Duranology. After 5 years of constant revision of all Duran available Duran fight tapes, they finally realised that he was never actually as good as they had first percieved, and was certainly no Top 20 P4P fighter. Along with bohdi, boxed ears, my2sense, mcgrain, teeto, popkins and powerpuncher, mass suicide was carried out, in a secluded farmhouse somewhere abouts the Panamanian countryside.

Fleaman jumped ship, aboard a galleon owned by the last remaining credible poster he could leech knowledge off, MAG185. A fair and honest non-believer. Fleaman became a Duran hater.

As for me, I enrolled in a college course, and, although it was hard, I gutted it out like I always did. I went on to college and eventually became a lawyer. Last week I entered a fast food restaurant. Just ahead of me, two men got into an argument—one of them pulled a knife. Being me, who had always made the best peace, tried to break it up. I was stabbed in the throat. I died almost instantly. I was a Pactard till the end.
Hey there's nothing wrong w/ Duranology and your sad ending I read about 15 years ago in the book "Sleepers". good post though!:goodThe forum needs more of this than all the total seriousness most get caught up in.

[itrymariti]

Why are people still giving this absolute prat the time of day? He's an obvious alt account, lads...

[Addie]

I'm actually the alt account of Ricardo.

[itrymariti]

I wouldn't mind you having several accounts, each with its own individual picture of W.R. Otherwise, it's a chronic waste.

[Abdullah]

Duran W12 or 15