Was Sam Peter out on his feet against Wlad in the last round?

[KobeIsGod]

I think he was. Wlad staggered him 2x in the 12th. first, at 1:30 w/that huge left hook and again at 2:20 w/a jab straight right. Peter could barely move late in the round while Wlad was just boxing and moving per Steward's directions. I have watched this fight at least three times and Peter was on his last legs. No doubt if there was a 13th round, Peter would have gottem ko'd :yep

Wlad will finish the job next time but this is hw fight that needs to happen in '08.

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[jonesjrp4p1]

haha it looks like cotto is a midget

[Slothrop]

I don't know if he was "out" but he was definitely chicken-legged.

[box03]

Yeah he wobbled him with a hook so what, Wlad got dropped 3 times and was almost knocked out himself.

[brooklyn1550]

He was wobbled/on his last legs, but not out on his feet. If Wladimir followed it up, he would have stopped Peter. In a second fight, I would expect him to stop Peter.

[KillerInstinct]

Yeah he wobbled him with a hook so what, Wlad got dropped 3 times and was almost knocked out himself.

And he STILL won the fight by 3 points despite getting knocked down 3 times.

[Toopretty]

He was wobbled/on his last legs, but not out on his feet. If Wladimir followed it up, he would have stopped Peter. In a second fight, I would expect him to stop Peter.

In a second fight if the ref takes the pacifier out of WLads mouth and actually warns him for holding everytime the other guy even blinked at him. Wlad would get KTFO in a rematch. Period. That was the most bitch-made win for any fighter in any fight. He fought like a bitch, he ran like a bitch. Got dropped three times like a bitch.

[box03]

And he STILL won the fight by 3 points despite getting knocked down 3 times. I know he did, he was the better boxer that night. I still believe that if Peter would of not smothered his punches the first time he would of been able to finish Wlad off.

[swedeone]

Peter will chin-check Wlad in their rematch and Wlad will go crashing to the canvas. He will get up, hold on, but get cuahgt again and the ref will step in sometime after that. Remember where you heard this. It is coming folks... trust me. :yep

[KobeIsGod]

Yeah he wobbled him with a hook so what, Wlad got dropped 3 times and was almost knocked out himself.

Yeah, Wlad was dropped 3x but he wasnt the one who could barely move his arms and legs by the end. Peter was done and ripe for the pickens. But he has a great chin, a lot of heart, a relentless stlye, and heavy hands and imo is the only one capable of upsetting this wlad. Either way, it would be an exciting rematch that needs to happen

[KobeIsGod]

Peter will chin-check Wlad in their rematch and Wlad will go crashing to the canvas. He will get up, hold on, but get cuahgt again and the ref will step in sometime after that. Remember where you heard this. It is coming folks... trust me. :yep

ok when and if king and duva have the stones to let a wlad-peter rematch happen, lets do a lifetime bet ban. then we'll see if you're so confident in your boy peter. u didnt like the 18:1 odds i gave u on the wlad-brewster rematch, so i doubt u will take me up on this one :yep

[box03]

Yeah, Wlad was dropped 3x but he wasnt the one who could barely move his arms and legs by the end. Peter was done and ripe for the pickens. But he has a great chin, a lot of heart, a relentless stlye, and heavy hands and imo is the only one capable of upsetting this wlad. Either way, it would be an exciting rematch that needs to happen I feel Peter hurt Wlad more than Wlad hurt Peter, but Wlad one the fight in the end and thats all that matters. I hope we see this fight again as well.

[Cruiser1]

How does this shit even come up? If anybody was saved in that fight it was Wladimir cuz the bell rang while he was still on shaky legs after the 3rd knockdown.

[box03]

peter never hurt wlad like wlad hurt peter. All knockdowns were not really nock downs. Wlad was just off balance but peter was one punch from being flat on his back if wlad followed up. I think the fight with wlad took its toll on peter and if he ever fights wlad agian he will be crushed mid rounds like byrd was. Hell even feather fisted toney hurt peter so dont expect peter to last 12 with wlad again he will be stopped early. Wlad got hurt and knocked down by a jab against Williamson, you obviously never watched the fight before, If Wlad wasnt hurt why was he grabbing on to Peter having what looked like a panic attack in the ring. So 1 of 2 things it could be the reson for him trying to clinch Peter, he was ever hurt by Peter or he gassed out early in the fight, so whats your guess then?

[TRUEBELIEVER 66]

This was 1 helluva fight people are still yakking about it 2 years later, if it would have been a 15rd fight like the old days Peter most likely would have been Knocked OUT:dead YEA Peter knocked Wlad down 3 times from rabbit punches but let's face it if they fight again Wlad would win again..

[box03]

This was 1 helluva fight people are still yakking about it 2 years later, if it would have been a 15rd fight like the old days Peter most likely would have been Knocked OUT:dead YEA Peter knocked Wlad down 3 times from rabbit punches but let's face it if they fight again Wlad would win again.. Only 2 of the knockdowns were from rabbit punches, ask any ref both of the knockdowns were perfectly legal since Wlad was hurt and put his head down to turn away from the action and was knocked down. The ref that was in there new what he was doing, and knows the rules better than anyone on this site, if it was a foul he would of been warned and knockdowns wouldnt of counted.

[KobeIsGod]

In a second fight if the ref takes the pacifier out of WLads mouth and actually warns him for holding everytime the other guy even blinked at him. Wlad would get KTFO in a rematch. Period. That was the most bitch-made win for any fighter in any fight. He fought like a bitch, he ran like a bitch. Got dropped three times like a bitch.

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[box03]

my guess is he was listening to his trainer and clinching because that was what he was told to do. I dont remember wlad doing a chicken dance. Wlad could of finished him in the last round but listened to his trainer and just boxed thats what good fighters do. The reason a boxer should repeatedly clinch and hold on to a another fighter for dear life is if hes hurt or is tired, thats it. Wlads faced looked pretty bad after that round was over and yes he was begining to have a panic attack, I believe the fight happend in late september or early october of 05 and I have watched the fight probably 10 times already. Trust me Wlad was hurt, and Peter did get hurt as well later on in the fight.

[box03]

[Only registered and activated users can see links] Wlads face looked worse after Brewster knocked his ass out, in there first fight.

[KobeIsGod]

Wlads face looked worse after Brewster knocked his ass out, in there first fight.

not talking about brewster-klit, im responding to toopretty's statement that wlad fought like a bitch and ran the whole fight. so sam peter got beaten and bloodied by a bitch :nut

[box03]

not talking about brewster-klit, im responding to toopretty's statement that wlad fought like a bitch and ran the whole fight. so sam peter got beaten and bloodied by a bitch :nut He lost the boxing match, and the fight was competitive enough for people to want to see it again. I understand you having to post that picture, sometimes toopretty goes to far with his views. It really dont matter how busted up someone is to see who really got there ass kicked, Lewis looked fine after his fight with Vitali, but Vitali looked all fucked up. I just want to see a rematch, theres alot of unanswered questions I would like to see answered when they hopefully fight again.

[box03]

maybe wlad was hurt as most boxers are in every fight and that is what steward has trained him to do when hurt, lennox was a master at doing it every time he was hurt but peter was nearly unconsious and on his back. Wlad went down 3 times in that fight, Peter was never down, thats the difference. Wlads chin will always be weak, thats one thing that rarely changes over time. You will see soon, there will be a boxer that has a good chin and a heavy punch that pressures Wlad and Wlad will melt in the ring again. Alot of you posters think Wlads bad chin just diappeared, its only because no has tested it in 2 years since Peter, its only a matter of time before it happens again and I cant wait.

[KobeIsGod]

Wlad went down 3 times in that fight, Peter was never down, thats the difference. Wlads chin will always be weak, thats one thing that rarely changes over time. You will see soon, there will be a boxer that has a good chin and a heavy punch that pressures Wlad and Wlad will melt in the ring again. Alot of you posters think Wlads bad chin just diappeared, its only because no has tested it in 2 years since Peter, its only a matter of time before it happens again and I cant wait.

i dont think it is his chin as much as panic when under pressure. he almost goes into a shell instead of just boxing. that's why peter poses the biggest threat. he constantly pressured and wlad handled it well for the most part, but when he was hit at times he seemed lost and became vulnerable. wlad's chin isnt great but if he doesnt get flustered by peter's constant pressure he will have a relatively easy time of it

[Zakman]

I think he was. Wlad staggered him 2x in the 12th. first, at 1:30 w/that huge left hook and again at 2:20 w/a jab straight right. Peter could barely move late in the round while Wlad was just boxing and moving per Steward's directions. I have watched this fight at least three times and Peter was on his last legs. No doubt if there was a 13th round, Peter would have gottem ko'd :yep

Of course there is doubt, as there is no way to really know exactly how hurt Peter was. In fact, it is highly debatable whether Peter was hurt enough to have been KOd in the next round. He got wobbled in the 12th, but did not seem as hurt as you or others allege. Jeez, he wasn't even knocked off his feet, and some of you want to make it seem like he was ready to go!!:patsch

[KobeIsGod]

Of course there is doubt, as there is no way to really know exactly how hurt Peter was. In fact, it is highly debatable whether Peter was hurt enough to have been KOd in the next round. He got wobbled in the 12th, but did not seem as hurt as you or others allege. Jeez, he wasn't even knocked off his feet, and some of you want to make it seem like he was ready to go!!:patsch

he was ready to go. george foreman even said it in the last round and he never contradicts himself :lol:

[box03]

i dont think it is his chin as much as panic when under pressure. he almost goes into a shell instead of just boxing. that's why peter poses the biggest threat. he constantly pressured and wlad handled it well for the most part, but when he was hit at times he seemed lost and became vulnerable. wlad's chin isnt great but if he doesnt get flustered by peter's constant pressure he will have a relatively easy time of it I think thats a big If IMO. His last 5 fights he hasnt been tested which is good in away and bad in away, its good because with Mannys help he learned to box his way to victory while rarely getting hit flush, the only bad thing with that is he starts to gain a false sense of security and will start feeling like no fighter can get past my jab. Its not if its when it happens, Wlad will be tested soon thats see how he reacts to a fighter that comes in and pressures him like a Sam Peter again.

[box03]

whats wlads chin got to do with being off balance three times in that fight. Peter did a chicken dance witch is what happens when your chin is cracked and your loseing your senses and your body cant respond. If anyone had a bad chin in that fight it was peter and his chicken dance.:nut If you actually watched the fight you will see Wlad hitting canvas 3 times, unlike Wlad when Peter did get hurt he was able to control himself and remain on his feet, because most fighters have what is called a durable chin something Wlad doesnt have and never will.

[dave]

Vlad clearly won the fight and that was 2 years ago, now it would be a one sided pasting in Vlad's favour again. The guy Vlad sure fear in Tony Thompson who can box and hit.

[madpup]

Its hardly a suprise that Peter got wobbled as Wlad is a massive hitter and Peter's defence is very poor. That doesn't deter from a fact that Peter has an amazing chin.

Still if they fought again, Wlad should win and I think it will be TKO. The skill disparity is massive and Wlad's confidence is extremely high. Whilst Peter has some chance, the odds of Wlad landing are much higher than that of Peter. If Wlad repeats a couple of times the treatment he gave to Peter in Rd 12 of their first fight, the fight will be over.

[dave]

Wladimir would slaughter Thompson. Thompson has crap power for a heavyweight, and Wladimir would outbox him before knocking him the fuck out. Thompson would be lucky to make it to 8 roundsWell that answers that question....who is Vlads biggest threat??? I don't think Peter is.

[madpup]

I think its gotta be Peter. Hard to find another boxer at the moment with the same combination of chin and power. Whilst Chagaev's skills are way above Peter, his power is not on the same level and his chin hasn't really been tested yet (I haven't seen the Virchis fight though).

[Mendoza]

I don't know if he was "out" but he was definitely chicken-legged.

Right and Peter was clinching to keep him self up right. I don't think Wlad opened up much vs Sam Peter. He certainly hit Brock, Austin, and Byrd much harder than he hit Peter.

Wlad fought a tactical box and move type of fight, and proved his stamina was good enough to do this for 12 rounds.

[Antwuan Maxx]

I think Peter would have KO'd Wlad had there been another 30 seconds or so left in round 10. That was probably the only legit knockdown in the fight. After getting up Wlad went into a shell against the ropes like he did against Sanders. Lucky for him the bell sounded.

Peter was definitely ready to go in the 12th. He was dead tired, and because of that had no legs. Therefore, Wlad's punches began to do serious damage. Another round in the fight and Peter gets brutally stretched.

[Burundanga]

I think he was. Wlad staggered him 2x in the 12th. first, at 1:30 w/that huge left hook and again at 2:20 w/a jab straight right. Peter could barely move late in the round while Wlad was just boxing and moving per Steward's directions. I have watched this fight at least three times and Peter was on his last legs. No doubt if there was a 13th round, Peter would have gottem ko'd :yep

Wlad will finish the job next time but this is hw fight that needs to happen in '08.

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Is that Queen Latifa on the left?

[lion]

if somebody will be KO'ed betewen them it will be wlad.. wlad was running all night, how can you knock somebody when you run? wlad will not get up next time they fight

[Stezzie]

that was peter on shaky legs after doing the zab chicken dance :lol:

But at least Peters legs were able to support his body weight throughout the fight...

[madpup]

if somebody will be KO'ed betewen them it will be wlad.. wlad was running all night, how can you knock somebody when you run? wlad will not get up next time they fight

The bruises on Peter's face must be a result of the wind tunnel effect of Wlad running away.

[Orang-Utan Jim]

To all the Peter nuthuggers who wanna rewrite history.

Lets say Peter knocked down Klitschko once, maybe 1 1/2 times. People who call the 1st KD and especially the 2nd KD a KnockDown are retarded and cannot be taken serious. The second KD was completely bogus. You hear that? BOGUS!!!!! Peter at that time was the HW hype and they wanted Peter to win so the judges and Lederman (notorious Klitschkohater) called it KD. But every neutral spectator (as well as Lampley and Merchant) with a little amount of boxing knowledge saw with their own eyes what the "Knockdowns" in the 5th were. A joke.

BTW where are all the people who thought Peter will murder, rape and whatever Klitschko within 2,3,4 rounds in their 1st fight (atleast half of that board). I guess they are the same, now picking Peter again via KO. I tell you, you will be wrong again.

Despite rooting for Peter that night, I saw Klitschko taking him to school for 11 1/2 rounds. and Peter didn´t learn to box meanwhile. Just Fat Toney lost his boxing skills.

[KobeIsGod]

Wlad got hurt and knocked down by a jab against Williamson, you obviously never watched the fight before, If Wlad wasnt hurt why was he grabbing on to Peter having what looked like a panic attack in the ring. So 1 of 2 things it could be the reson for him trying to clinch Peter, he was ever hurt by Peter or he gassed out early in the fight, so whats your guess then?

wlad got countered by a right and was not hurt at all. he threw an off-balance lead right and got caught. it was the textbook flash knockdown. in fact, he went on to hurt williamson later in the round.

while i do agree he panicks at times when constantly pressured, clinching is a major part of his style now w/steward. use your massive weight and height to wear down the smaller opponent. in the rematch with brewster, he handled it much better. however, one must admit peter would apply more pressure than brewster did. only one way to find out though, that is, if peter can ever fight again :yep

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Damn, Cotto isn't much smaller than Wlad, he may do it (knock Wald out cold).:D

[LennoxGOAT]

The bruises on Peter's face must be a result of the wind tunnel effect of Wlad running away.


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Yep. Get real people. Peter's face at the end of the fight looked like he was hit by a truck!

[Shane_Erich]

I think if it had been a 15 round fight Peter would have said goodnight. He was in trouble, but he also showed a hell of a chin throughout the fight.

[Stezzie]

To all the Peter nuthuggers who wanna rewrite history.

Lets say Peter knocked down Klitschko once, maybe 1 1/2 times. People who call the 1st KD and especially the 2nd KD a KnockDown are retarded and cannot be taken serious. The second KD was completely bogus. You hear that? BOGUS!!!!! Peter at that time was the HW hype and they wanted Peter to win so the judges and Lederman (notorious Klitschkohater) called it KD. But every neutral spectator (as well as Lampley and Merchant) with a little amount of boxing knowledge saw with their own eyes what the "Knockdowns" in the 5th were. A joke.

BTW where are all the people who thought Peter will murder, rape and whatever Klitschko within 2,3,4 rounds in their 1st fight (atleast half of that board). I guess they are the same, now picking Peter again via KO. I tell you, you will be wrong again.

Despite rooting for Peter that night, I saw Klitschko taking him to school for 11 1/2 rounds. and Peter didn´t learn to box meanwhile. Just Fat Toney lost his boxing skills.

Only one knock down was from behind the head...and the only reason the punches that did land behind the head are because Klitschko leaned in away from Peter's right hand to hold...

Peter wobbled momentarily in the 12th...not even for a full second, and he was exhausted but people think 'oh suddenly Wlad decided to get aggressive...in a rematch Peter knocks Wlad out...

[CHEF]

I think he was. Wlad staggered him 2x in the 12th. first, at 1:30 w/that huge left hook and again at 2:20 w/a jab straight right. Peter could barely move late in the round while Wlad was just boxing and moving per Steward's directions. I have watched this fight at least three times and Peter was on his last legs. No doubt if there was a 13th round, Peter would have gottem ko'd :yep

Wlad will finish the job next time but this is hw fight that needs to happen in '08.

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I think he was hurt more than we all think...especially Wlad. I just watched the 12th round of that fight. Peter looked like he was doing a ballet move..after that left hook...hahaha...I think if Wlad had pressed he could have finished him

[CHEF]

I think if it had been a 15 round fight Peter would have said goodnight. He was in trouble, but he also showed a hell of a chin throughout the fight.

Even Wlad ay the post fight with Peter talked about what a great chin Peter had......what happened against McCline?

[CHEF]

Peter will chin-check Wlad in their rematch and Wlad will go crashing to the canvas. He will get up, hold on, but get cuahgt again and the ref will step in sometime after that. Remember where you heard this. It is coming folks... trust me. :yep

:lol: :-(

[LennoxGOAT]

Even Wlad ay the post fight with Peter talked about what a great chin Peter had......what happened against McCline?


I don't think Peter will ever be the same after the Wlad fight. It has happened to other fighters. You get beat so bad physically and mentally that you are just not the same fighter.

[Stezzie]

Even Wlad ay the post fight with Peter talked about what a great chin Peter had......what happened against McCline?

I think an uppercut is a different punch...Peter saw Wlads coming straight through the middle. McCline just hit the sweet spot...thats why you are suppose to keep you chin down...I have fought before and you chin is not always the same despite what people think...sometimes you can just take just about anything and then there are those days when you simply can't...I think people believe boxers are robots...

[Boxfan1]

I think the Wlad fight ruined Peter. Wlad beat the "iron" out of his chin that night, and he will never be the same again. In a rematch, Wlad ends it early inside of 7 rounds. Another thing to remember was Wlad didn't throw any hooks until the last round and didn't throw a single uppercut the whole fight. Basically it was jab, jab, straight right hand, jab, jab, jab. Stick and move strategy all night because Manny didn't want him blowing his load early. He punched off his back foot all night. McCline caught Peter with the uppercut while stepping towards Peter, and with Peter moving towards him at the same time. Results: A hell of a punch on Peter.

[Bubba]

Judge for yourself:

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