Great Fighters never the same after a loss

[chimba]

Some might think Meldrick but to me it was Donald Curry losing to Lloyd Honeyghan.

I mean one has to understand how great Curry was.. He had an astonishing amatuer record of 400 - 0 or something. He wasnt able to compete for the olympics in 1980 but would have surely won.

By 1985 he has collected the IBF, WBC, WBA belts undisputed p4p king

Great defense, great power, great technician, smooth as silk I mean he had it all.

Beat the likes of Colin Jones, Starling, Mccrory

then for some reason he looked lethargic against Honeyghan...mysteriously never the same

Any fighters like this who just fell from grace after a fight?

[Thread Stealer]

Donald Curry circa mid-80s was bad-ass. His 2 round destruction of Milton McCory was possibly the dominating performance between two undefeated champs/titlists.

Felix Trinidad never really mentally recovered from the loss to Bernard Hopkins, IMO. It took a good deal of his desire, hence his inactivity.

[theunderdog]

hamed was done after mab

[chimba]

Donald Curry circa mid-80s was bad-ass. His 2 round destruction of Milton McCory was possibly the dominating performance between two undefeated champs/titlists.

Felix Trinidad never really mentally recovered from the loss to Bernard Hopkins, IMO. It took a good deal of his desire, hence his inactivity.

The robbery against DLH took a little out of my liking for Tito a bit although I still liked him

[chimba]

hamed was done after mab

Bro Hamed was a bit hyped Curry had an unbelievable pedigree

[KobeIsGod]

id say roy jones after the win against ruiz. looked sluggish against tarver, then got ko'ed in the rematch. not sure if it was the wieght gain/loss or age or combination of the 2. guess it doesnt meet the criteria of the thread but it's quite shoking how he was so dominant and then just became ordinary so quickly

[unclepaulie]

Originally Posted by KobeIsGod
id say roy jones after the win against ruiz. looked sluggish against tarver, then got ko'ed in the rematch. not sure if it was the wieght gain/loss or age or combination of the 2. guess it doesnt meet the criteria of the thread but it's quite shoking how he was so dominant and then just became ordinary so quickly
Perfectly put, but on a completely different subject you cant mess with my boy LeBron James.

[chimba]

id say roy jones after the win against ruiz. looked sluggish against tarver, then got ko'ed in the rematch. not sure if it was the wieght gain/loss or age or combination of the 2. guess it doesnt meet the criteria of the thread but it's quite shoking how he was so dominant and then just became ordinary so quickly

I dont think that was caused by something else..can you spell BALC...:deal

[Longhhorn71]

Curry was the local Fort Worth fighter(with the hometown trainer Dave Gorman) who at one time was one of the top fighters in the world.

But the typical boxing thing happened when an "outside group" muscled in on Gorman and convinced Curry he should drop Dave.

A distracted Curry got beat up by Honeyghan, then lost additional fights in the future as his will to win declined. And of course, when the "Group" had milked everything from Curry as a boxer, they dumped him and sent him back to Ft. Worth.

I have talked to Gorman several times at local fights about what happened to Curry.

[chimba]

Curry was the local Fort Worth fighter(with the hometown trainer Dave Gorman) who at one time was one of the top fighters in the world.

But the typical boxing thing happened when an "outside group" muscled in on Gorman and convinced Curry he should drop Dave.

A distracted Curry got beat up by Honeyghan, then lost additional fights in the future as his will to win declined. And of course, when the "Group" had milked everything from Curry as a boxer, they dumped him and sent him back to Ft. Worth.

I have talked to Gorman several times at local fights about what happened to Curry.

Thanks for the info its great, When you talked to Dave
I mean was there any doubt about how far could Curry have gone

[Longhhorn71]

Thanks for the info its great, When you talked to Dave
I mean was there any doubt about how far could Curry have gone

Curry trained in some pretty "basic" quarters around Fort Worth and I think on a ranch. He would have needed to move up in his facilities no matter what because training methods were changing.

Remember, at that time there were a bunch of really good welters & Jr Middleweights around, besides Leornard, Hearns & Duran.

I know a Hagler - Curry fight was being projected, but my opinion is Curry was not ready for that fight until 18 months in the future.

Dave Gorman had groomed Curry from as kid, and the trust and bond was broken.....and a bunch of money lost.

Gorman thought Curry could have become 15% better....and what that means my other fellow posters will have to decide.

[Fab2333]

Perfectly put, but on a completely different subject you cant mess with my boy LeBron James.

And neither can mess with my boy T-MAC
baaaaliiiiin:good

[darkness]

Tyson Obviously. Once the invincblity was broken he was done.

[box03]

Tyson Obviously. Once the invincblity was broken he was done. I agree, he wasnt unbeatable anymore. He was champ again in 95-96, but he wasnt the champ he used to be, I really believe if he wouldve beat Holyfield he might of went down as the best boxer of all time.

[gambleer]

Acelino Freitas, no doubt

Fernando Vargas, shot

[mad_takamura]

mab after the pac fight..he won great fights before pac including the trilogy but after pac: hastalavista the good ol' mab..though i'm not counting him out with his rematch with pac this coming sunday (sat for you) :nono

[TBooze]

Most obvious of modern times was the excellent Meldrick Taylor never being the same post ChavezI

[Cruiser1]

Tyson Obviously. Once the invincblity was broken he was done.

In a way you are correct. The invincibility was stripped away but he still managed to beat Ruddock a couple times before he went to prison. He still had something left cuz if he hadn't Ruddock would have beaten him. When I think of a fighter being done I think of it being open season on the guy. This was obviously not the case in Tyson's 4 fights post Douglas/pre-prison. He was still gonna be an extremely difficult opponent for anyone.

[Cruiser1]

Even from a British fight fans perspective Tysons fall from grace had the biggest impact on me. Considering the age I was when he was in his prime I BELIEVED he was invincible.

By the time 95 96 rolled around I was wise to the fact that even as champion Tyson was not the same fighter. Bruno might have won that fight if he'd have thought the same.

The fight was over before the bell rang, Bruno wanted out of there even when he was walking to the ring.

Even as a Tyson fan, that was tough for me to watch. I hate seeing a man unravel like that in the public eye.