Can the nigerian pizza boy.....

[ralphc]

.....incline McCline? He better do it quick. Stay tuned for another kissing and hugging contest. McCline is never in shape and it looks like Peter has been training at the pizza parlour with James Toney. Both of these bums will both be out of gas by the 5th round and we will have to endure another Tennessee waltz thereafter. Lets pray that Mccline is as careless with his chin as ever and one of Peter's damn fool haymakers makes some hay. It will relieve the boredom of a fight that is destined to be very boring.

[brooklyn1550]

Both look to be in very good shape

[natep]

are you retarded or blind? Or possibly both. Samuel Peter looks to be in great shape, even better shape than the James Toney fight.

[dragosuhail]

peter does look in good shape in those photos but i have to wonder if he trained as hard as he did for wladimir.

even though peter has been lighter than his 243 pounds verses wladimir in previous bouts, he knew what he was up against in facing the klitschko so trained his butt off. (apparently he was beaten around the ring when a sparring partner).

so! i would say peter's body has matured some what since the days he was 233 pounds. however 250 doesn't sound THAT good. he looks fit-ish, but in reality he needs to be around 240-243 for best stamina.

he proved his stamina was good verses wladimir at 243. yes, he looked tired quickly, BUT hard punches to the face all night long tends to do that to you. of course if peter had gone into the wladimir fight at 250+ he would have been ko'ed.

as they say. the better your conditioning, the more punishment you can absorb. the same punch that you shrugged off in round 1, will hurt alot more in round 12.

if mccline is in fighting shape for a change, i would not be surprised to see him box to a careful decision. peter will be surprised if he thinks he can weigh the same against a former old middleweight.

[psychopath]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah pizza boy?

Yeah . . . he will eat McCline alive like a pizza. :rofl :yep

[dave]

I ate james Toney and i will now dine on Mcline

[Sakura]

This fight might be more closer than most people think. Jameel can win UD, if his little lucky..

[Simply_The_Best]

Samuel Peter KO if not he shouldn't bother boxing anymore if he wants to become the undisputed heavweight champion.

[Relentless]

this idiot believes because peter isn't 220 like a young tyson he is a bum,

he made a comment in the training section saying how if cus d'amato had sam peter at a young age he would make him look like a young mike tyson,

sam peter isn't built that way, no matter what peter will not go down that weight, he has a huge frame, and his gut isn't fat.

[ralphc]

peter does look in good shape in those photos but i have to wonder if he trained as hard as he did for wladimir.

even though peter has been lighter than his 243 pounds verses wladimir in previous bouts, he knew what he was up against in facing the klitschko so trained his butt off. (apparently he was beaten around the ring when a sparring partner).

so! i would say peter's body has matured some what since the days he was 233 pounds. however 250 doesn't sound THAT good. he looks fit-ish, but in reality he needs to be around 240-243 for best stamina.

he proved his stamina was good verses wladimir at 243. yes, he looked tired quickly, BUT hard punches to the face all night long tends to do that to you. of course if peter had gone into the wladimir fight at 250+ he would have been ko'ed.

as they say. the better your conditioning, the more punishment you can absorb. the same punch that you shrugged off in round 1, will hurt alot more in round 12.

if mccline is in fighting shape for a change, i would not be surprised to see him box to a careful decision. peter will be surprised if he thinks he can weigh the same against a former old middleweight.




Fitness isn't a matter of appearances, it is the ability to pressure an opponent for all 12 rounds. Both McCline and Peter have consistently shown that they are either unable or unwilling to get in boxing shape. Typical of the boxing bums we have to tolerate these days. Little wonder the sport is in decline.

[box03]

Fitness isn't a matter of appearances, it is the ability to pressure an opponent for all 12 rounds. Both McCline and Peter have consistently shown that they are either unable or unwilling to get in boxing shape. Typical of the boxing bums we have to tolerate these days. Little wonder the sport is in decline. While I agree the Heavywieght division is on the decline, I do feel however Peter looks better than he ever has. Im looking for this one to end in the mid rounds, Peter TKO 6 round.

[ralphc]

While I agree the Heavywieght division is on the decline, I do feel however Peter looks better than he ever has. Im looking for this one to end in the mid rounds, Peter TKO 6 round.



If one of those bombs lands, he could KO McCline in any round. The steroids won't make a damn bit of difference.

[The Kurgan]

Peter looks overmuscled, and McCline looks to be at his best. I wouldn't be TOO surprised by a big, BIG upset.

[swedeone]

Samuel by brutal TKO. Period.

Then a few months to rest and then train again for his TKO desctruction of Wladamir Klitschko in early 2008.

:yep

[josak]

nigerian pizza boy lmao :lol:

[Relentless]

Fitness isn't a matter of appearances, it is the ability to pressure an opponent for all 12 rounds. Both McCline and Peter have consistently shown that they are either unable or unwilling to get in boxing shape. Typical of the boxing bums we have to tolerate these days. Little wonder the sport is in decline.

a person who has not laced a pair of gloves in his life is calling a pro boxer a bum.:patsch

hey ralph why dont you turn pro and show us all?

[Bigcat]

Oh i forgot that Buster douglas was a vegetarian monk.. who lived off nut cutlets and rocket leaves..

[Motor City Sam]

a person who has not laced a pair of gloves in his life is calling a pro boxer a bum.:patsch

hey ralph why dont you turn pro and show us all?

Seems like there is a lot of that going on these days, Relentless. Lots of threads calling boxers "bums", "wimps", etc. I'm always surprised to see so much of that on a boxing fan message board. :huh

[Decker]

a person who has not laced a pair of gloves in his life is calling a pro boxer a bum.:patsch

hey ralph why dont you turn pro and show us all?We usually disagree, but agree w/you here. But what ralph is posting is common fare here on ESB. Is this any different than internet dipshits calling Wlad a "coward" or Lewis "gay" or vice versa or both :-( I'd like to see these web "gangstas" say that to even an average HW f2f, never mind a top HW. :deal

Don't see you chiding posters who say idiotic things about fighters like Wlad. :think

[BoxingGuru]

Samuel by brutal TKO. Period.

Then a few months to rest and then train again for his TKO desctruction of Wladamir Klitschko in early 2008.

:yep

Yeah just like the first fight right, or did you go away and cower after that incorrect prediction too.

I don't call cheating and then getting brutally beat down anything but a total exposure, which is what Wlad did to Peter. He let Peter cheat all night long by hitting him behind the head and still made him look like an amateur.

[box03]

Yeah just like the first fight right, or did you go away and cower after that incorrect prediction too.

I don't call cheating and then getting brutally beat down anything but a total exposure, which is what Wlad did to Peter. He let Peter cheat all night long by hitting him behind the head and still made him look like an amateur. Both parties could say each other cheated, this isnt checkers its boxing of course fouls happen, they happen in every sport your learn to deal with it, if you dont you deserve to lose or in boxing get knocked out. I was taught in boxing when someone fouls you foul them harder, Wlad couldnt say shit about the punches cause he put his head down, I mean come on what do you think is going to happen. The first fight was good and competitive, both men hurt the other one thats just hope they fight again sometime soon.

[IntentionalButt]

I was taught in boxing when someone fouls you foul them harder

So you were taught that point deductions were what, something to be proud of?

[box03]

So you were taught that point deductions were what, something to be proud of? No when another man fouls you, you immediately foul him back. Usually what that does is makes him think next time he wants to fight dirty, in the ring you got to be the bully in there. When a man turns his back to you or puts his head down you keep punching until the ref calls the fight or warns your oppenent for putting his head down and or illegally turning away from punches.

[Stezzie]

peter does look in good shape in those photos but i have to wonder if he trained as hard as he did for wladimir.

even though peter has been lighter than his 243 pounds verses wladimir in previous bouts, he knew what he was up against in facing the klitschko so trained his butt off. (apparently he was beaten around the ring when a sparring partner).

so! i would say peter's body has matured some what since the days he was 233 pounds. however 250 doesn't sound THAT good. he looks fit-ish, but in reality he needs to be around 240-243 for best stamina.

he proved his stamina was good verses wladimir at 243. yes, he looked tired quickly, BUT hard punches to the face all night long tends to do that to you. of course if peter had gone into the wladimir fight at 250+ he would have been ko'ed.

as they say. the better your conditioning, the more punishment you can absorb. the same punch that you shrugged off in round 1, will hurt alot more in round 12.

if mccline is in fighting shape for a change, i would not be surprised to see him box to a careful decision. peter will be surprised if he thinks he can weigh the same against a former old middleweight.

Peter looks to be in the best shape...fitness is not all about weight...you can be ripped but that doesnt guarantee stamina...stamina is about cardio and you can't look at a fighter and see where his stamina is. In light of those facts, Peter looks to be in the best shape...he may or may not be tho..

[madpup]

Peter should win. If he doesn't, he should quit boxing for good

[IntentionalButt]

No when another man fouls you, you immediately foul him back. Usually what that does is makes him think next time he wants to fight dirty, in the ring you got to be the bully in there. When a man turns his back to you or puts his head down you keep punching until the ref calls the fight or warns your oppenent for putting his head down and or illegally turning away from punches.

No offense but your coach is a douchebag. :yep

[box03]

No offense but your coach is a douchebag. :yep Yeah but hes right, usually when a fighter turns back to you that means hes getting hurt and doesnt want to fight anymore, after that its up to the ref to step in and stop the fight. Im not sure If you boxed or that, but the main thing in the ring is you always got to be in control you never want to let your oppenent dictate the pace of the fight.

[El Bombasto]

with all of the nonsense that has ensued, and the early start of training camp for peter, he may have peaked early; but, if you're putting money on the fight, peter is still the best bet.

[PATSYS]

Why is he now called pizza boy?

[ralphc]

Seems like there is a lot of that going on these days, Relentless. Lots of threads calling boxers "bums", "wimps", etc. I'm always surprised to see so much of that on a boxing fan message board. :huh



Remember the Thrilla in Manilla? Two old guys way past their prime came to fight. Peter and McCline won't look anything like that. They are nothing more than bums and we all know it.

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[ralphc]

in shape or not, this will be a grappling match of the highest proportions.


Yeah, if McCline can avoid getting knocked out, that is what most likely will happen. I wonder if these bums ever watched David Tua and Ike Ibeabuchi? If they did, do you think they would feel ashamed?

[Relentless]

Yeah, if McCline can avoid getting knocked out, that is what most likely will happen. I wonder if these bums ever watched David Tua and Ike Ibeabuchi? If they did, do you think they would feel ashamed?

why dont you for the first time in your life lace a pair up, instead of pretending to be a old time boxing guru on the internet?

the navy avatar does not fool anyone, you are a 12 year old girl.

[ralphc]

Why is he now called pizza boy?


Because he is trianing down at Pizza Hut. James Toney, Shannon Briggs, David Tua and many others are down there with him.

[Motor City Sam]

Remember the Thrilla in Manilla? Two old guys way past their prime came to fight. Peter and McCline won't look anything like that. They are nothing more than bums and we all know it.

Yeah, I remember the Thrilla in Manilla. I guess I'm just not big on anonymously calling professional boxers names from the relative comfort of a computer keyboard.

[ralphc]

Yeah, I remember the Thrilla in Manilla. I guess I'm just not big on anonymously calling professional boxers names from the relative comfort of a computer keyboard.


Did you ever hear me call Chris Byrd a bum? Ok, I did call him a bum after that ridiculous performance against Klitschko. Throughout his career Byrd has shown that he is willing to train hard and get in shape for his fights. He may not have a crowd pleasing style, but he usually performed as well he could. Compare that to Peter and McCline who always run out of gas because they don't train porperly. These two men are clearly underachievers, and any underachiever in my book is a bum.

[Dorfmeister]

Peter has a chest comically small and disproportionate to the rest of his body but he is not overweight like McCline or Briggs are... Toney is a complete offense to any fitness concept but Peter is thick and cannot possibly be hurt to the body.

[Relentless]

Did you ever hear me call Chris Byrd a bum? Ok, I did call him a bum after that ridiculous performance against Klitschko. Throughout his career Byrd has shown that he is willing to train hard and get in shape for his fights. He may not have a crowd pleasing style, but he usually performed as well he could. Compare that to Peter and McCline who always run out of gas because they don't train porperly. These two men are clearly underachievers, and any underachiever in my book is a bum.

hey kid just shut the fuck up, if you dont like boxing, dont watch it, boxing will never go back to the ali-frazier time, you dont like it? too bad you can suck my dick.

[Motor City Sam]

Did you ever hear me call Chris Byrd a bum? Ok, I did call him a bum after that ridiculous performance against Klitschko. Throughout his career Byrd has shown that he is willing to train hard and get in shape for his fights. He may not have a crowd pleasing style, but he usually performed as well he could. Compare that to Peter and McCline who always run out of gas because they don't train porperly. These two men are clearly underachievers, and any underachiever in my book is a bum.

I suppose we just have to agree to disagree on this.