Paul Smith might figt for a world title this year....

[Nel has heart]

Just read this.....:patsch...Please tell me this wont happen...lol:patsch

[Dan684]

paul smith might fight for a title this year..............

.................... And he will lose :good

[Nel has heart]

.................... And he will lose :good

Ye he will. iF he gets a world title shot I will cry and never watch another boxing fight again....period.:bart

[avidlemon]

It is likely to be for the wbo title against either stieglitz or miranda, whoever wins their fight. out of all the world champions, at this stage Paul would have the best chance against stieglitz.
Why shit on someones parade, it is a british boxer potentially on the world scene, why not big it up, even if some peeople aren't his greatest fan.
The biggest joke in recent years was elcock fighting abraham.
Smith actually would stand a good chance against steiglitz, whereas elocock was out of his depth

[Beeston Brawler]

I agree with avidlemon..... in terms of Elcock getting the shot at Abraham - Gary Lockett was offered it but said the money wasn't good enough and that he didn't want to fight in Germany.

Steiglitz is certainly beatable - if Smith really screws the nut and comes in tiptop condition I'd make him a live underdog in that matchup.

[antcull]

It is likely to be for the wbo title against either stieglitz or miranda, whoever wins their fight. out of all the world champions, at this stage Paul would have the best chance against stieglitz.
Why shit on someones parade, it is a british boxer potentially on the world scene, why not big it up, even if some peeople aren't his greatest fan.
The biggest joke in recent years was elcock fighting abraham.
Smith actually would stand a good chance against steiglitz, whereas elocock was out of his depth

Stieglitz v Miranda was called off......now Bute v Miranda

[ishy]

Miranda is fighting Bute now, the Stieglitz fight fell through. Stieglitz is easily the weakest champ at 168 to best of luck to Smith if/when he gets the shot.

Smith's got to get past Dodson first though :hey

[moorser]

let smith fight magee for the european title and make it an elimanator for the wbo

that would be a cracking night in belfast

i think magee would take him easily after both there last showings

[Bodysnatcher]

Have to say that I think Smith is a domestic level fighter and no more. Too in love with his power. He loads up on right hands any decent boxer can see coming a mile away.

[avidlemon]

Stieglitz v Miranda was called off......now Bute v Miranda

that slipped my mind to be honest, but i do recall seeing that.

i agree with the comment, let magee and smith slug it out for the chance, if and when smith comes past dodson.

I would give him a much fairer shot at magee than others.

He would defo be a live opponent against stieglitz. Can;t remember who it was who knocked stieglitz out, but i think smith could take him out, as he seems a little bit suspect when under pressure.

Plus Smith ain't a bottle job, and has a bit more in the tank than being just a brawler IMHO

[Boro chris]

He would defo be a live opponent against stieglitz. Can;t remember who it was who knocked stieglitz out, but i think smith could take him out, as he seems a little bit suspect when under pressure.

Plus Smith ain't a bottle job, and has a bit more in the tank than being just a brawler IMHO

Berrio ko'd Stieglitz.

[avidlemon]

Berrio ko'd Stieglitz.

That was the sausage i was thinking of.

Don't get me wrong, i am a smigga fan, but out of all the "champions" he has the best chance of beating stieglitz. I think he is more than capable of doing to him what berrio did to him

[Dan684]

See i'm not particualrly keen on Smith but this doesn't sway the way I think about this. If it was a Britsh boxer who'd earnt his dues and was in with a chance then fair enough. But Smith has spent years marking time against absolutely nobody and then went life and death with a 13-1 MMA fighter in Quigley. He hasn't beaten Dodson yet and is talking World Titles when he hasn't even faced a ranked Euro fighter.

I'd pick Anderson, and DeGale to beat him soon let alone any of the World Champs.

BTW I dont ever remember Quigley being beaten by Cleverley ??

[pathmanc1986]

let smith fight magee for the european title and make it an elimanator for the wbo

that would be a cracking night in belfast

i think magee would take him easily after both there last showings




good shout, stick rogan or martin lindsay on the undercard and they would sell out the oddysey no problem.

[pathmanc1986]

See i'm not particualrly keen on Smith but this doesn't sway the way I think about this. If it was a Britsh boxer who'd earnt his dues and was in with a chance then fair enough. But Smith has spent years marking time against absolutely nobody and then went life and death with a 13-1 MMA fighter in Quigley. He hasn't beaten Dodson yet and is talking World Titles when he hasn't even faced a ranked Euro fighter.

I'd pick Anderson, and DeGale to beat him soon let alone any of the World Champs.

BTW I dont ever remember Quigley being beaten by Cleverley ??



pretty sure he did couple years back

[Top Dog]

He aint gonna win a world title, cant see it at all.

[Robert]

****** will maybe push a couple of fighters this year on to quick world title shots because his boxing stable has not got any at the moment

[Dan684]

Yeah I checked Boxrec, Johnny Owen, and a couple of others. They all mention it I just couldn't ever remeber it

[avidlemon]

See i'm not particualrly keen on Smith but this doesn't sway the way I think about this. If it was a Britsh boxer who'd earnt his dues and was in with a chance then fair enough. But Smith has spent years marking time against absolutely nobody and then went life and death with a 13-1 MMA fighter in Quigley. He hasn't beaten Dodson yet and is talking World Titles when he hasn't even faced a ranked Euro fighter.

I'd pick Anderson, and DeGale to beat him soon let alone any of the World Champs.

BTW I dont ever remember Quigley being beaten by Cleverley ??

I think smith has paid his dues to be fair. If he doesn't give it a dip now, maybe he won;'t get another chance.

I think it is great.

Degale no chance against any decent british SMW right now, and anderson has proved fuck all.

Let smith have his time in the spotlight, i think he will have earned it if he beats dodson

[brown bomber]

I think its a poor division and Smith, Quigley and co aren't far behind the top men.... obviously excluding super 6.

[avidlemon]

It isn't the best it's ever been to be fair. How many times do we see boxers either not fullfill their potential, or end up peniless?

I think if it happens we should all get behind him

[Dan684]

IF he beats Dodson.

What has Smith done to earn his shot out of curiosity?

I know he's had a fair few fights but who has he beat of any stature that would prove him to be worthy ? Beating Quigley (who was 13-1) in such a close horrible fight doesn't prove him to be World Class IMO

[thewinfella]

Just read this.....:patsch...Please tell me this wont happen...lol:patsch

This is old news !!!!!!

Smith talked about fighting Mcgee and then Stieglitz immediatley after the Quigley fight , but i agree with the rest of the forum , i mean i dont know how bad Steiglitz as ive never seen him , but Paul Smith a world champion :huh

[Beeston Brawler]

His promoter owns a sanctioning body.

[thewinfella]

It isn't the best it's ever been to be fair. How many times do we see boxers either not fullfill their potential, or end up peniless?

I think if it happens we should all get behind him

Ha ha ha ha ha ha :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: we meet again hey .

And about our good friend Paul Smith , please tell me who in the top 10 in the world Paul could beat :


Bute
Ward
Froch
Kessler
Bika
Abraham
Green
Andrade
Stieglitz
Gutknecht
Honourable mention Jermain Taylor & Dirrell

Thats the Ring curent top 10 !!!!!! , who does Paul Smith beat there !!! :good

[thewinfella]

I think smith has paid his dues to be fair. If he doesn't give it a dip now, maybe he won;'t get another chance.

I think it is great.

Degale no chance against any decent british SMW right now, and anderson has proved fuck all.

Let smith have his time in the spotlight, i think he will have earned it if he beats dodson


Let me tell you this James De Gale stops Paul Smith right now , not in ten fights or 15 but now its that simple !!!!!

[avidlemon]

Let me tell you this James De Gale stops Paul Smith right now , not in ten fights or 15 but now its that simple !!!!!

I think you are getting me wrong here. i stated tyhat his best chance right now is stieglitz.

i am not saying he can beat the rest right now. get over whatever it is you have against me.

oh, and degale. please behave

[avidlemon]

IF he beats Dodson.

What has Smith done to earn his shot out of curiosity?

I know he's had a fair few fights but who has he beat of any stature that would prove him to be worthy ? Beating Quigley (who was 13-1) in such a close horrible fight doesn't prove him to be World Class IMO

I think he beats dodson, but yes it is still an if.

I don't think anyone has ever said that him beating quigley made him world class really.

He hasn't fought anyone of world class granted. But if you want to blame anyone at this stage of his career for who he has fought, blame frank.

He is being stepped up now, doesn't matter about the past.

So many fighters have stepped up with question marks over them, and don't quite make it, and maybe that will happen to smith, and if it does then so be it. But until then, let's get behind him, he is fucking british at the end of the day. I would throw my weight behind fucking matthew hatton in a world title fight because he is british, and i am patriotic

[thewinfella]

I think you are getting me wrong here. i stated tyhat his best chance right now is stieglitz.

i am not saying he can beat the rest right now. get over whatever it is you have against me.

oh, and degale. please behave

:lol::lol::lol:

I have nothing against you , i just like to pick holes in your un dying love for Paul Smith , i like De Gale in that fight , i actually think Smith gets KO'd to be honest .

[Dan684]

Avid Lemon.

I commend you mate but personally I'm not over patriotic when it comes to the sport. If a fighter from Britain is doing well then brilliant but I either like/loathe fighters by there styles, personalities not there nationality :good

Each to their own I suppose

[avidlemon]

Avid Lemon.

I commend you mate but personally I'm not over patriotic when it comes to the sport. If a fighter from Britain is doing well then brilliant but I either like/loathe fighters by there styles, personalities not there nationality :good

Each to their own I suppose

I can have that attitude to fighters of other nationalities, but in genral not to british fighter, unless your name is chisora.

But i know where you are coming from

[Dan684]

:good

Like I said each to there own but i'd be rooting for BinLaden if he laced them up to fight Matt Hatton :good

[avidlemon]

:lol::lol::lol:

I have nothing against you , i just like to pick holes in your un dying love for Paul Smith , i like De Gale in that fight , i actually think Smith gets KO'd to be honest .

I am not making any statements that are untrue to be fair.

But you are right, it is a love affair, i stalk him day and night :roll:

Let's have it right, Smith is a player on the british scene, but certainly not the world scene. He may get a shot at the wbo, and if he does then great. Will he lose? Posibly, but got great chance against stieglitz.

I don't make statements i don't think are true or not possible.

where have you heard me say he will unify the division etc? You have't.

As for Degale.

Once again, beeeehave

[avidlemon]

:good

Like I said each to there own but i'd be rooting for BinLaden if he laced them up to fight Matt Hatton :good

:yep fair point

[avidlemon]

"i like De Gale in that fight , i actually think Smith gets KO'd to be honest ."

Paul Smith is more likely to get a worse slap off someone in liverpool city centre on a saturday night than he would off Degale

['Ben']

WBO I pressume?

[Nel has heart]

Yeah he is no.4 with the WBO but that doesnt mean he deserves to be. Salita was no.1 with the WBA and there were about 60 guys above him that shouldv'e been no.1.

I pisses me off when guys like Smith f*ck about at doemstic level for 30 fights fighting bums think they can just jump to world level because they are undefeated or in his case one defeat.

How long will it be before he fights some shagged out old Italian for A VACANT euro title??

[avidlemon]

Yeah he is no.4 with the WBO but that doesnt mean he deserves to be. Salita was no.1 with the WBA and there were about 60 guys above him that shouldv'e been no.1.

I pisses me off when guys like Smith f*ck about at doemstic level for 30 fights fighting bums think they can just jump to world level because they are undefeated or in his case one defeat.

How long will it be before he fights some shagged out old Italian for A VACANT euro title??

Listen mate, it is very rare for that to be the fighters decision, who they fight etc. Paul has been patient, and is getting his shot. Maybe he doesn't deserve to be no 4, but he is. Let's see how he fares.

[JCB123]

I've asked this question before .................... Who has Smith beat at SMW to ******t a shot at a f@ckin world title shot????????????????

He never beat anyone of any merrit at MW????????

[Davies]

Smith needs to clear up dometically before going to the European scene let alone the world scene,

I like him and think he could pick up a belt one day and hope he does but timing is evrithing, its one thing winning a belt against a weak champ (which is the only way i see it hapening any tme soon) but its a lot tougher defending it against world class opposition.

He needs to take his time and not rush in to things

[avidlemon]

Smith needs to clear up dometically before going to the European scene let alone the world scene,

I like him and think he could pick up a belt one day and hope he does but timing is evrithing, its one thing winning a belt against a weak champ (which is the only way i see it hapening any tme soon) but its a lot tougher defending it against world class opposition.

He needs to take his time and not rush in to things

I agree with this. I would like to see him do it the traditional route, win lonsdale outright, then go euro, then world, as i believe by this time he will have developed enough to warrant challenges at world level (for the doubters, or those who think i kiss arse, i will point out that i am not saying he will win a world title, but he could work his way to that levle)but also he will have built enough big ocasion experiance and will deserve his shot in the eyes of those who think he does not deserve it.
Additionally, he hasn't fought anyone as yet to warrant a shot at the title, but fighting dodson is a good start. And if he gets a shot at wbo, then great.

[neil hibbert]

is anybody ever happy? lol

[LHL]

I dunno what the fuss is about a lot of good fighters are given a title shot without a meaningful fight and come good. Who did alexander or Bradley fight to get there shots? Who did Gamboa fight for his shot?

Boxing is full of fighters that get something they don't deserve its what they do when they get it that counts.

People saying Degale would KO Smith I know Smith hasn't looked great recently but Degale must be a monster in sparring for you to say that.

[s23041983]

It is likely to be for the wbo title against either stieglitz or miranda, whoever wins their fight. out of all the world champions, at this stage Paul would have the best chance against stieglitz.
Why shit on someones parade, it is a british boxer potentially on the world scene, why not big it up, even if some peeople aren't his greatest fan.
The biggest joke in recent years was elcock fighting abraham.
Smith actually would stand a good chance against steiglitz, whereas elocock was out of his depth
smith has a lot to prove tho. especially after his comments when he won the british SMW belt. he pissed a lot of people off with those comments. i think he will get a shot next year!

[TFFP]

That was the sausage i was thinking of.

Don't get me wrong, i am a smigga fan, but out of all the "champions" he has the best chance of beating stieglitz. I think he is more than capable of doing to him what berrio did to him
Don't fool yourself, Berrio punches like a mule. Smith couldn't knock the skin off custard at this weight.

Stieglitz would hammer him IMO, as average as Stieglitz is he's better than Smith.

[avidlemon]

Don't fool yourself, Berrio punches like a mule. Smith couldn't knock the skin off custard at this weight.

Stieglitz would hammer him IMO, as average as Stieglitz is he's better than Smith.

At this moment in time right now though, thisis the most realistic belt for him to win.
I am not by any means saying smigga is a monster at the weight, but probably has a bit more snap that you suggest.
Stieglitz has folded before when people have pressuerised him, and i think this would be his best chance of vctory if he gets the chance