How far @ world level can Kevin Mitchell go ???

[thewinfella]

I fancy him against Katsidis i really do , but there are sharks in the water @135 and Mitchell if he beats Katsidis will be swimming amongst them !!!!!!

Valero
JMM
Funeka
Guzman
Peterson

And so on !!!!!!! , how well can he do ????

[anjawnaymiz]

i think mitchell will beat katsidis but after that i doubt we will see him up against those you have listed, possibly marquez is on the way out but mitchell aint a big enough name yet for that fight, a fight with soto would be very interesting.

expect murray to win the euro soon and mitchell will probly defend against him late this year.

[Top Dog]

He aint, he will get swallowed up whole

[Beeston Brawler]

Guzman is a party piece.

After Funeka whoops him (again) it'll take him two years to come out of his shell.

The guy is a joke.

As for the others.... I'm still not sold on Mitchell going above WBO level to a ''big 3'' world title unless the claimant isn't a particularly strong one.

It'll be entertaining though.

[thewinfella]

Guzman is a party piece.

After Funeka whoops him (again) it'll take him two years to come out of his shell.

The guy is a joke.

As for the others.... I'm still not sold on Mitchell going above WBO level to a ''big 3'' world title unless the claimant isn't a particularly strong one.

It'll be entertaining though.

I dont think Guzman is a party peice i beleive Funeka was a terrible stylistic match up and his freakish size and solid jab and extroardinary output makes him a deadly opponent for anybody @135 .

Overall though i agree with you good post mate !!! :good

[thewinfella]

i think mitchell will beat katsidis but after that i doubt we will see him up against those you have listed, possibly marquez is on the way out but mitchell aint a big enough name yet for that fight, a fight with soto would be very interesting.

expect murray to win the euro soon and mitchell will probly defend against him late this year.

I think Soto is a good fight for Mitchell not a particularly dangerous one bearing in mind the company he's in @135 though !!!!!

Id like to see him fight JMM after Katsidis but like you say he's high risk low reward at this stage of Marquez's career .

Personally i dont fancy Kevin with Valero or Funeka so will be interesting where ****** goes with him after Katsidis should he get through that !!!!

[LP_1985]

cud fight moses. not sure about soto straight after katsidis tho

[ollyc]

I think he'll stop Katsidis.
Following that I think Gavin Rees & then Juan Diaz might be his first couple of defences.

[mughalmirza786]

I saw enough on mitchell in the Prescott fight to suggest he would more than handle himself against the divisions elite. Mitchell has good power, speed, reflexes, ring smarts and a chin. He could do with some elite level sparring in the states to take him to the next level.

[Trenaman]

I think he'll beat Katsidis (i hope Frank wins the purse bids on this one) have a manditory, maybe Diaz to get an American name then follow Khan to 140. Could even see Frank lining up Maidana to rub it in if Khan continues to avoid him.

[Davies]

I think he'll stop Katsidis.
Following that I think Gavin Rees & then Juan Diaz might be his first couple of defences.

Good call, they would be good fighters for him to beat and settle him in to the top class, if he gets past Katsidis like

[Mazallan]

He can beat Ree's but the rest I doubt he has a chance against.

[jonnyP]

i cant see him beating katsidis, however if he does he deserves alot of respect and a few softish winnable defences against the likes as rees and diaz as mentioned above

[Lee Mc]

Katsidis, in my opinion, beats Mitchell badly and he will either quit or stay around European level.

[Mazallan]

Katsidis, in my opinion, beats Mitchell badly and he will either quit or stay around European level.



Me too but it is a fantastic fight to make and to be honest I thought he would struggle with Prescott so maybe he pulls off something special...I still fancy Katsidis to TKO him though.

[Lee Mc]

Me too but it is a fantastic fight to make and to be honest I thought he would struggle with Prescott so maybe he pulls off something special...I still fancy Katsidis to TKO him though.

I also thought he would struggle against Prescott but only because I saw him trying to get into a war. Prescott had already been exposed and is quite easy to outbox and, unlike many others, I was not suddenly convinced that we have a good/great boxer in Kevin Mitchell: just a guy whose camp had done their homework.

[thewinfella]

Katsidis, in my opinion, beats Mitchell badly and he will either quit or stay around European level.

Hello no !!!!

Katsidis is the most over rated fighter on this forum and possibly in the world , Graham Earl dropped him , Juan Diaz gave him a boxing clinic and Casamayor stopped him 18 months ago !!!!!!

Katsidis is tailor made for a boxer / puncher like Mitchell , its the Valero's , Diaz and Funeka's of the world i think Mitchell may come up short against down the line !!!!!

[mryeags]

Hello no !!!!

Katsidis is the most over rated fighter on this forum and possibly in the world , Graham Earl dropped him , Juan Diaz gave him a boxing clinic and Casamayor stopped him 18 months ago !!!!!!

Katsidis is tailor made for a boxer / puncher like Mitchell , its the Valero's , Diaz and Funeka's of the world i think Mitchell may come up short against down the line !!!!!

Have to agree totally ... Kat isnt as good as people make out .. exciting yeah but the new Mitchell style wins this comfortably :good

[thewinfella]

Have to agree totally ... Kat isnt as good as people make out .. exciting yeah but the new Mitchell style wins this comfortably :good

At last thank you !!!!! :D

[phonk]

BBoBC won't clear Valero to fight in the UK.

[HMSTempleGarden]

I think Mitchell will fight anyone, he's been out injured for a lengthy period, and has been pretty active since his return during the middle of last year.

It will be interesting to see how he deals with Katsidis' non stop pressure, but I think Mitchell will win by a wide UD.

[Mazallan]

OMG Mitchell beat Prescott...he must the greatest boxer in the world. No one can defeat him. Sure he looked pretty shit against a shot to shit Carl Johanneson but that was ages ago.

[Flea Man]

Mitchell can beat Valero, who is massively overrated IMO.

EXCLUDING MARQUEZ (!!!!) I'd say Funeka is the best there at the moment, and can't see Mitchell putting him away. He managed to stifle a far better technician than Campbell and I'm not sure Mitchell could get the kd's that Nate did to force the fight in his favour. Funeka would win on points I think.

Katsidis is winnable, but both guys are similar fighters, guys that can box a bit but love a good tear-up. Katsidis is no doubt the more proven but he's not exactly an 'Elite' level fighter himself (well he may be considered nowadays, which says it all for the modern game) but nonetheless I'll be rooting for Mitchell all the way (unless he fights Funeka, who I'm a big fan of) :good

[Flea Man]

Hello no !!!!

Katsidis is the most over rated fighter on this forum and possibly in the world , Graham Earl dropped him , Juan Diaz gave him a boxing clinic and Casamayor stopped him 18 months ago !!!!!!

Katsidis is tailor made for a boxer / puncher like Mitchell , its the Valero's , Diaz and Funeka's of the world i think Mitchell may come up short against down the line !!!!!

Casmayaor and Juan Diaz-Both better than Mitchell.

Escebedo-Arguably better than Mitchell.

Graham Earl-Granted, it was a war. But fighters change and Katsidis has obviously improved since that fight, and the KD was one of the most brief touchdowns I've ever seen.

I'd stay off boxrec and watch some boxing you witless little twat :good

[thewinfella]

Casmayaor and Juan Diaz-Both better than Mitchell.

Escebedo-Arguably better than Mitchell.

Graham Earl-Granted, it was a war. But fighters change and Katsidis has obviously improved since that fight, and the KD was one of the most brief touchdowns I've ever seen.

I'd stay off boxrec and watch some boxing you witless little twat :good

Ok the KD was not a flash KD , he was all but done , if Earl had a little bit left upstairs after getting knocked down on several occasions he would of should of stopped him !!!!!!

Casamayor is shot , thats a fact , and at this point cant make 135 but if he could he would be a good fight for Mitchell , at the time of the fight Casa was shot that was my point , as for Diaz , i agree with you he's a better fighter than Mitchell , however Diaz is a puncher / boxer , not a boxer / puncher and he stood behind his boxing and gave Katsidis a lesson in boxing , that shows you how good Katsidis all out pressure style is !!!!!

[mryeags]

Casmayaor and Juan Diaz-Both better than Mitchell.

Escebedo-Arguably better than Mitchell.

Graham Earl-Granted, it was a war. But fighters change and Katsidis has obviously improved since that fight, and the KD was one of the most brief touchdowns I've ever seen.

I'd stay off boxrec and watch some boxing you witless little twat :good

Yup but so has Mitchell :good ..... Mitchell is very good and his fight game has improved no end .... top bloke hope he gets there !

[thewinfella]

Mitchell can beat Valero, who is massively overrated IMO.

EXCLUDING MARQUEZ (!!!!) I'd say Funeka is the best there at the moment, and can't see Mitchell putting him away. He managed to stifle a far better technician than Campbell and I'm not sure Mitchell could get the kd's that Nate did to force the fight in his favour. Funeka would win on points I think.

Katsidis is winnable, but both guys are similar fighters, guys that can box a bit but love a good tear-up. Katsidis is no doubt the more proven but he's not exactly an 'Elite' level fighter himself (well he may be considered nowadays, which says it all for the modern game) but nonetheless I'll be rooting for Mitchell all the way (unless he fights Funeka, who I'm a big fan of) :good

Flea dick i think we should focus on boxing matters now instead of insulting each other , i can see us having some good little debates over boxing as these are the only posts ive seen from you which actually relate to boxing !!!!!!

Anyway , Valero over rated , did you see the De Marco fight ???? if not i suggest you watch it , then im pretty sure you'd be looking at Mitchell getting KTFO !!!!!

As for Funeka i agree he's a top fighter , very tall for a LW , tremendous jab and un beleivable output , he was robbed against Campbell and Guzman !!!!! , but he for me is #2 in the world behind Valero !!!!!

[mryeags]

Ok the KD was not a flash KD , he was all but done , if Earl had a little bit left upstairs after getting knocked down on several occasions he would of should of stopped him !!!!!!

Casamayor is shot , thats a fact , and at this point cant make 135 but if he could he would be a good fight for Mitchell , at the time of the fight Casa was shot that was my point , as for Diaz , i agree with you he's a better fighter than Mitchell , however Diaz is a puncher / boxer , not a boxer / puncher and he stood behind his boxing and gave Katsidis a lesson in boxing , that shows you how good Katsidis all out pressure style is !!!!!

thewinfella has fleaman on the ropes ...

[thewinfella]

thewinfella has fleaman on the ropes ...

I think i got into his head a little too much !!!! :lol::lol:

[Dan684]

:yikes

This thing still going.

Katsidis and Valero will beat Mitchell

[mryeags]

:yikes

This thing still going.

Katsidis and Valero will beat Mitchell

Kat = No ... Valero = probably Yes ......

[Lazarus]

I see him going far in the Lightweight division and unifying the titles(If Valero goes up to 140). But I don't see him in the 140 pound division. Too much talent and I don't think Mitchell can dominate there.

[PaddyD1983]

I like Mitchell. Entertaining fighter.

Katsidis fight has FOTY written all over it. Not sure whether Mitchell has much of a chin. He took some decent shots against Prescott but no real bangers. If he's got a chin, he beats Katsidis in my opinion.

After Kat, division is fairly heavy without being loaded. Agree with whoever said Guzman is a party piece. Mitchell could do worse than to get that fight made (except Guzman would end up pulling out).

After that things get difficult. A Valero fight would make sense to both fighters in a few months. Good test for both with the winner getting real kudos and the loser still in and around the top level.

At this moment, I dont see Mitchell beating the rest of those named.

[jdawg]

Couple of importants factors with Kev- Jimmy tibbs and Frank ******. Categorically no way will over-portective ****** put him in with Valero and Tibbs, as we saw with prescott wont allow his lad to get into the sort of needless scrap he did on that off night (yes its allowed he did win after all!) with johannsen.

Kevs a good size at lightweight, have no idea how he managed to get down to s/f for so long! I think he beats Katsidis, he's very quick on his feet got a solid chin and counter punches smartly and strong enough to win a close points decision. Katsidis' work rate and heart will see him take a few rounds especially early on and last the bell but he'l get caught comin in and the more eye catchin stuff will come from Mitchell.

Would love to see him fight John Murray or Gavin Rees at the o2/upton park etc but wont hold my breath. Kev didnt fight all the other top domestics at s/f like Burns or even Foster Jr. his skills are underrated but i dont think he's quite at the valero jmm funeka level yet.

This'l sound crazy, but... Barrera?? Khans names been mentioned already by Kev and Frank so there'l be another common opponent, still ridiuclously ranked and a name even a faded 1. Makes stupid boxing common sense to me!!

[Mazallan]

Valero would destroy Mitchell bad.

[jdawg]

Valero fights surely a no-go anyway, cant fight here can only fight in Texas in the States- Valero-Mitchell main event in the 100,000 Cowboys stadium... nah i dont see it either!!

[Mazallan]

I thought Valero was allowed to fight in Britain?

[jdawg]

Should have embelished, he's offically banned everywhere in States except Texas, BBofC hasnt had to make the call (hasnt as far as I know..) but if he cant fight in Vegas or New York can u really see the board takin the risk of lettin him fight here?? I dont think so

[stiflers mum]

Casmayaor and Juan Diaz-Both better than Mitchell.

Escebedo-Arguably better than Mitchell.

Graham Earl-Granted, it was a war. But fighters change and Katsidis has obviously improved since that fight, and the KD was one of the most brief touchdowns I've ever seen.

I'd stay off boxrec and watch some boxing you witless little twat :good
the Katsidis knockdown was because he relaxed when the towel was thrown.who expects the ref to throw the towel back out? anyway hope the fight gets made.love the Aussie v England rivalry.:thumbsup

[icemax]

Valero would destroy Mitchell bad.

Valero is a walking KO waiting to happen...anyone with a bit of patience and technique will one day take advantage of Valeros stupid habit of hanging his chin out every time he throws any kind of shot...why can't that person be Mitchell? I would give him more chance against Valero than I would against Katsidis

[Mazallan]

Valero is a walking KO waiting to happen...anyone with a bit of patience and technique will one day take advantage of Valeros stupid habit of hanging his chin out every time he throws any kind of shot...why can't that person be Mitchell? I would give him more chance against Valero than I would against Katsidis


Mictchell has not even fought at european level yet.

[icemax]

Mictchell has not even fought at european level yet.

It doesn't matter what level he has fought at, he is still capable of taking advantage of valeros glaring flaw.

[Mazallan]

It doesn't matter what level he has fought at, he is still capable of taking advantage of valeros glaring flaw.



Nah he is not. Mitchell is good but not in the class of the guys at the top of the division.

[icemax]

Nah he is not. Mitchell is good but not in the class of the guys at the top of the division.

I don't think that Valero is anywhere near the top table...I am beyond surprised that someone hasn't sparked him already

[Flea Man]

I think i got into his head a little too much !!!! :lol::lol:

Don't think so pal.

Okay, the insults can stop. But I have watched the DeMarco fight, and I don't think Katsidis waqs 'out' against Earl.

Basically, Valero is not that good.

[icemax]

Basically, Valero is not that good.

:good

[Flea Man]

Apparently I was 'on the ropes' there :rofl

If you've watched say, Bazooka Limon, Valero is not that Earth shattering.

[wraps]

Mictchell has not even fought at european level yet.
i think that statement years ago would be valid, but dont you rekon these day the boxers get thru for different reasons than beating the best, also in some weight divisions it can be weak, think mitchell will beat katsidis tho, that will give him some more experience at world level

[thewinfella]

Don't think so pal.

Okay, the insults can stop. But I have watched the DeMarco fight, and I don't think Katsidis waqs 'out' against Earl.

Basically, Valero is not that good.

I think we'll agree to differ on that one , i thought Valero looked pretty special in the De Marco fight and id fancy him against anybody @135 , looks a little small for 140 which has been quoted especially for somebody like Lamont Peterson which the old fart is now banging on about .

However i was wrong about you , your knowledge of this sport's history is fuckin astounding for someone so young (as im informed your in your 20's) who the fuck is Bazooka Limon ??????

[essexboy]

I think we'll agree to differ on that one , i thought Valero looked pretty special in the De Marco fight and id fancy him against anybody @135 , looks a little small for 140 which has been quoted especially for somebody like Lamont Peterson which the old fart is now banging on about .

However i was wrong about you , your knowledge of this sport's history is fuckin astounding for someone so young (as im informed your in your 20's) who the fuck is Bazooka Limon ??????

Chacon - Limon IV. Fight of the year 1982. Enjoy.

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[Top Dog]

Mitchell would get KTFO by Valero, anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves on. He beat a pish Prescott and everyone thinks he is the next great thing, come on now for fucks sake. The kid is a good wee fighter but dont get carried away

[kosaros]

Mitchell would get KTFO by Valero, anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves on. He beat a pish Prescott and everyone thinks he is the next great thing, come on now for fucks sake. The kid is a good wee fighter but dont get carried away

Who has Lee McAllister beat to be justified as world class? ;)