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dmt
10-05-2007, 08:09 AM
who wins?

dmt
10-05-2007, 08:12 AM
and i am talking about Sultan

ThePlugInBabies
10-05-2007, 08:14 AM
wlad fucking wastes him, this doesn't go the distance. iggy is by far the weakest of the current champs.

Fat Tony
10-05-2007, 08:15 AM
and i am talking about Sultan

It doesn't matter if you're talking about Sultan or Timur.

Sultan has good handspeed, nice combinations but not the punch to endanger Wlad.
And he has no defence, sooner or later Wlad's right hand will land.
And Sultan was down against AUSTIN, so it's very unlikely he'll survive many of Wlad's bombs.

Wlad KO7 Sultan.

EpsilonAxis
10-05-2007, 08:16 AM
At this point, it is tough to honestly say who Wlad DOESNT waste.

ThePlugInBabies
10-05-2007, 08:26 AM
At this point, it is tough to honestly say who Wlad DOESNT waste.

peter - wlad wins but you don't 'waste' sam peter.

ruslan chagaev - tough as old boots, again wlad takes it on points i think but ruslan is one tough cookie with good skills and power.

valuev - no one is taking him out.

dmt
10-05-2007, 12:31 PM
IGGY is not the weakest champ

Dorfmeister
10-05-2007, 01:22 PM
Who the hell is the Hardest hitting hw ever, Sultan Ibrajimov, Tim(u)r Igragimov or Paolo Maldini? Who wins?... Wlad who is waiting for the IBF tourney winner. Good thread!

bumdujour
10-05-2007, 01:41 PM
wlad has shown to be vunurable to a southpaw sharpshooter......remember corrie sanders??

he´d ambush wlad.....and given wlads china chin, he´d ko him.

brooklyn1550
10-05-2007, 03:02 PM
Klitschko in 5

box03
10-05-2007, 03:07 PM
wlad has shown to be vunurable to a southpaw sharpshooter......remember corrie sanders??

heŽd ambush wlad.....and given wlads china chin, heŽd ko him. I forgot that Iggy was a southpaw, I still dont see Wlad "the fag" losing this one.

ralphc
10-05-2007, 03:12 PM
I forgot that Iggy was a southpaw, I still dont see Wlad "the fag" losing this one.


He shouldn't have lost any fights, but he did. Klitschko might figure out a way of losing this one too.

emanuel_augustus
10-05-2007, 03:16 PM
At this point, it is tough to honestly say who Wlad DOESNT waste.

In a year or so, maybe Povetkin.

I can't publish the link to tigre boxing dot com, but go there and find the article about a possible Povetkin/Wlad matchup.

The author makes some good points, such as the fact that Povetkin's head movement and extreme accuracy could possibly offset Wlad's main front-line weapon, the jab.

Also, AP has a huge arsenal on the inside if Wlad tries to clinch when in close, and his higher activity level could cause the bigger man problems over rounds.

Good points all. By no means is this a certainty, but Povetkin seems to have a skill set, that if honed, could maybe give Wlad his roughest challenge in awhile.

Sakura
10-05-2007, 03:17 PM
Povetkin is stupid if he go against wladimir too early

VHB
10-05-2007, 03:29 PM
Ibragimov by brutal KO in the opening rounds.

ralphc
10-06-2007, 02:07 PM
In a year or so, maybe Povetkin.

I can't publish the link to tigre boxing dot com, but go there and find the article about a possible Povetkin/Wlad matchup.

The author makes some good points, such as the fact that Povetkin's head movement and extreme accuracy could possibly offset Wlad's main front-line weapon, the jab.

Also, AP has a huge arsenal on the inside if Wlad tries to clinch when in close, and his higher activity level could cause the bigger man problems over rounds.

Good points all. By no means is this a certainty, but Povetkin seems to have a skill set, that if honed, could maybe give Wlad his roughest challenge in awhile.



The article would be a good analysis if it was factually correct. Povetkin has head movement, but the wrong kind. What a small puncher needs to do against Klitschko is a Tysonesque lateral head movement actuated from the waist. Most of Povetkin's movement comes from the feet in the typical European style. The problem is he lacks the speed to get around Klitschko's fast jab. If Klitschko overcomes his natural instinct to run when attacked, he will easily knockout Povetkin. If he pulls straight back as usual, Poveltkin could in theory run him down. In practise I have never seen him do it.

Asterion
10-06-2007, 02:09 PM
Wlad by KO.

Cachibatches
10-06-2007, 03:02 PM
I like Ibrigimov, but he has't got the beard to fight Wlad. Its just a bad style match up.

Wlad by brutal KO.

El Bombasto
10-06-2007, 03:45 PM
wlad fucking wastes him, this doesn't go the distance. iggy is by far the weakest of the current champs.

wlad smokes him, i'm not all that sure that ibrag could even hurt him

box03
10-06-2007, 04:14 PM
wlad smokes him, i'm not all that sure that ibrag could even hurt him With Wlads china chin anyone above 160 has chance of knocking him out, I still believe Wlad wins this one relatively easy.

Goose
10-06-2007, 04:19 PM
Ibragimov's left hand would get to Wlad like lightining and he would crumble in the very first round

andyZOR
10-06-2007, 04:19 PM
Wlad by BRUTAL KO inside 5.

El Bombasto
10-06-2007, 04:25 PM
Povetkin is stupid if he go against wladimir too early

looks like he could have wlad within his next three fights. so, he would be facing the best man in the division next year, a little to early imo. works out pretty well for wlad though

box03
10-06-2007, 04:30 PM
looks like he could have wlad within his next three fights. so, he would be facing the best man in the division next year, a little to early imo. works out pretty well for wlad though Or Holyfield, you cant exactly count him out just yet. At least 40% on ESB are perdicting Holyfield to win.

CHEF
10-06-2007, 04:34 PM
Ibragimov by brutal KO in the opening rounds.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :smoke :smoke :smoke :lol: :lol:

Wlad by TKO in 5

El Bombasto
10-06-2007, 04:37 PM
Or Holyfield, you cant exactly count him out just yet. At least 40% on ESB are perdicting Holyfield to win.

i'm pretty sure ibrag should win this, unless he get careless. his handspeed and movement will be too much for holyfield. plus the fight's in moscow, so unless vander can knock him out (he can't) don't expect him to come home with the title

box03
10-06-2007, 04:45 PM
i'm pretty sure ibrag should win this, unless he get careless. his handspeed and movement will be too much for holyfield. plus the fight's in moscow, so unless vander can knock him out (he can't) don't expect him to come home with the title True, I for one think Holyfield will lose by UD, but Holyfield has pulled upsets off before so you never know.

kk17
10-06-2007, 05:48 PM
Ibragimov is the strongest titelholder beside Klitschko and he has all to beat Klitschko speed, power, southpaw

Ibragimov ko5

El Bombasto
10-06-2007, 05:52 PM
True, I for one think Holyfield will lose by UD, but Holyfield has pulled upsets off before so you never know.

the only way i see holyfield pulling it is if he wins by stoppage or gets multiple knockdowns (which would make a decision undeniable). holyfield still has decent power and ibrag has been dropped by slow plodders (which is what vander is now) in the past. ibrag also has very fast hands for a heavyweight and is active with good power, all three attributes are kryptonite for senior citizen boxers like holyfield.

KobeIsGod
10-06-2007, 05:56 PM
My god this would be a beating. Iggy is a solid boxer with very good hand speed and clearly a legit hw. But Sultan doesn't have enough power and chin, the two mandatory prerequisites u need to even have a chance against this Wlad, not the Wald who lost to a part-time golfer :yep

This fight is over as soon as Wlad wants it to be. I'll say round 2-4 by TKO and Iggy barely touches him.

box03
10-06-2007, 05:57 PM
the only way i see holyfield pulling it is if he wins by stoppage or gets multiple knockdowns (which would make a decision undeniable). holyfield still has decent power and ibrag has been dropped by slow plodders (which is what vander is now) in the past. ibrag also has very fast hands for a heavyweight and is active with good power, all three attributes are kryptonite for senior citizen boxers like holyfield. I see it going like Bryd/Holyfield did, with Holyfield looking his age and missing alot. I cant see Holyfield out boxing Iggy, unless Holyfield catches Iggy with something big I cant see Holyfield doing well.

emanuel_augustus
10-06-2007, 06:53 PM
The article would be a good analysis if it was factually correct. Povetkin has head movement, but the wrong kind. What a small puncher needs to do against Klitschko is a Tysonesque lateral head movement actuated from the waist. Most of Povetkin's movement comes from the feet in the typical European style.

I don't know. I haven't seen a lot of clear footage of Povetkin, and he's often on the offensive, but from what I have seen he does move side to side using his waist/hips to move his trunk.

I'd like to see the Donald fight again to get a gauge of this.