10 Best Heavyweights of All Time??????

[Grievesy]

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Not a bad list imo.

Thoughts???

[Olz15]

seems like quite a reasonable list, im not a mir fan, i tend to think he is quite overrated, but at the same time i am not sure who i would put in his place

[Grievesy]

seems like quite a reasonable list, im not a mir fan, i tend to think he is quite overrated, but at the same time i am not sure who i would put in his place

He is the one guy who jumped out at me as well, but again like you, I couldn't think of a reasonable guy to replace him.

[Olz15]

He is the one guy who jumped out at me as well, but again like you, I couldn't think of a reasonable guy to replace him.
i think its his losses that bug me, and the fact he really has yet to "dominate" even a segment of his era

[ufoalf]

Lol at Mir being there. He won the title once(not counting interim bs title). He won the title once against Tim Sylvia. Sorry, no go. If anything 10 is the top position he could possibly have.

[socrates]

fedor,barnett,maurice smith,crocop,couture,mir,gilbert yvel,noguiera,bas rutten,severn etc

[socrates]

you cant complain about mir! subbed sylvia,kongo and lesnar,knocked out noguiera! etc and yvel and smith are too often overlooked smith was a pioneer and a great striker,yvel has a top resume! overeem,kongo,rizzo,goodridge,schilts etc

[jimmie]

Coleman at 3 ? Shitty list IMO.

1. Fedor Emelinenko
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Mirko Cro Cop
4. Josh Barnett
5. Randy Couture
6. Frank Mir
7. Tim Sylvia
8. Andrei Arlovski
9. Mark Coleman
10. Pedro Rizzo

[One Punch KO]

Frank Mir is very tough to rank as far as ATG heavyweights go.

He has some excellent wins. He was the first man ever to stop Big Nog, Brock Lesnar and Tim Sylvia. He is a former UFC heavyweight champion. A two-time champion if you count the Interim title. Those are real achievements.

But on the other hand he has some equally bad stoppage losses to guys like Ian Freeman and Marcio Cruz. Losing to Brandon Vera in 69 seconds isn't brilliant either. Not to mention Lesnar smashed him in their rematch.

I think Frank Mir's place in MMA heavyweight history will probably be decided by fights we have yet to see.

[Wige247]

who's that fedor guy @ 1?

[Beebs]

Coleman at 3 ? Shitty list IMO.

1. Fedor Emelinenko
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Mirko Cro Cop
4. Josh Barnett
5. Randy Couture
6. Frank Mir
7. Tim Sylvia
8. Andrei Arlovski
9. Mark Coleman
10. Pedro Rizzo

If you look at what Coleman actually accomplished vs what CroCop actually accomplished, Coleman is clearly ahead.

[boxingcar]

I agree with their TOP 5....but not with the rest of the top 10 list

[Rattler]

If you look at what Coleman actually accomplished vs what CroCop actually accomplished, Coleman is clearly ahead.

He beat Frye (twice), Goodridge, Severn and mostly guys who were smaller than him.

He's lost to the best fighters he's faced, barring the above mentioned folks.

Cro Cop's wins over Barnett easily trump anything Coleman has done... and we're not even bringing his kickboxing career into play.

Cro Cop > Coleman easily.

[Weber]

He beat Frye (twice), Goodridge, Severn and mostly guys who were smaller than him.

He's lost to the best fighters he's faced, barring the above mentioned folks.

Cro Cop's wins over Barnett easily trump anything Coleman has done... and we're not even bringing his kickboxing career into play.

Cro Cop > Coleman easily.

Not to mention, Coleman got a serious asswhooping when they fought:

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[dublynflya]

who's that fedor guy @ 1?

:lol: Some fat Ruskie!!

[jimmie]

Not to mention, Coleman got a serious asswhooping when they fought:

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Exactly Cro Cop make Coleman look almost retarted in that fight. Coleman was past his prime but he would have used the same strategy had it been 1997 and still got KTFO early.

[Grievesy]

Coleman at 3 ? Shitty list IMO.

1. Fedor Emelinenko
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Mirko Cro Cop
4. Josh Barnett
5. Randy Couture
6. Frank Mir
7. Tim Sylvia
8. Andrei Arlovski
9. Mark Coleman
10. Pedro Rizzo

While Coleman may not be worthy of top 3, I wouldn't go as far as to drop him below Sylvia and Arlovski. OK he didn't adapt and has some pretty bad losses on his record but he won two(?) UFC tournaments, was the first UFC HW champ and won the 2000 Pride GP. Those achievements alone eclipse anthing either Sylvia and Arlovski have done imo, although I'll admit Coleman's record does fall short in terms of names.

Apart from that your list isn't bad either. TBH, once you get past the top 5 or so, the list gets a bit iffy and there could be a few names you could throw in. Not surprising really considering that MMA is a relatively young sport.

[Grievesy]

Of course I suppose it depends on your criteria aswell.:think

[Beebs]

He beat Frye (twice), Goodridge, Severn and mostly guys who were smaller than him.

He's lost to the best fighters he's faced, barring the above mentioned folks.

Cro Cop's wins over Barnett easily trump anything Coleman has done... and we're not even bringing his kickboxing career into play.

Cro Cop > Coleman easily.

Coleman though has a UFC HW title and a Pride GP title. CroCop can never point to one point in time where he could say he was the best, Coleman can.

[uppa kut]

What about Gracie? Isn't he better than Severn?