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ishy
02-19-2010, 07:01 AM
Good interview conducted by our own Terry D

AMIR KHANS defection to Golden Boy Promotions earlier this month was a massive setback for promoter Frank ******, who guided the Bolton man from the Breidis Prescott KO defeat all the way to the WBA light-welterweight title. The veteran promoter, who has been at the forefront of British boxing for decades and he has seen many boxers come and go, caught up with us to discuss Khan, amongst other things, which we covered extensively last week.

You recently stated that Joe Calzaghes decision to go it alone for the Roy Jones fight was the biggest disappointment of your career. Has Amir Khans decision to move to Golden Boy Promotions relegated Joes defection to the number two spot?

Amir said he wanted to move to take things to the next level and this is disappointing, especially as he hasnt spoken directly to me about it. I think that remark was out of order.

Youve lost the likes of Naseem Hamed, Ricky Hatton, Calzaghe and now Khan; do you feel confident in your ability to produce the next British boxing crossover star?

Ive read about Naz leaving me but he never left me. I took Naz to the States and Atlantic City, then the contract ended and I walked away because I didnt like what was happening with his family, their involvement, and the fact that he wasnt training as hard as he could. I had great times with Naz and decided that was it.

Ricky Hatton didnt get off to go to the States, he signed with another British promoter [Dennis Hobson] who took him to Boston and Vegas and then Hatton himself made a match and dumped him [Hobson] to fight a Golden Boy fighter, [Floyd] Mayweather [Writers note: Floyd has his own promotional company but his last three fights have been promoted by GBP], and got beat.

What was disappointing with Joe [Calzaghe] was all those years where Sky didnt want him, ITV didnt want him, and Ive got letters from both companies to this effect, and people were showing no interest due to a couple of uninspired performances. With Ricky and Joe, I managed to get their fights broadcast on Showtime at least eight or 10 times, so it was sad and disappointing. It was his [Joes] choice to go it alone.

With Amir I am baffled. I did a deal with [Klaus] Peter Kohl, who is with Universum, who are the promoters for [Marcos] Maidana [Khans mandatory challenger], and agreed terms with them for [a fight against] Amir. I also spoke to HBO, who agreed to take the fight. I also agreed terms with Ken Hershman at Showtime for Amir to fight [WBO titlist Timothy] Bradley, which would have given Amir the biggest purse he had ever had, so Amir had a few choices and didnt even come back to me on them.

Lou DiBella phoned about [Paulie] Malignaggi fighting Amir and they were interested, so all those things could have been done. So I dont understand the rationale , though I know what it is deep down but dont want to embarrass anybody. All those big fights were there for him so I find it quite strange. Ive not spoken to him. The last conversation I had with Amir was after the Salita fight when he said, Me and Frank are going to America.

[B]Is the defection made especially disappointing due to the fact that you shielded Khan to a degree after the Prescott defeat?

Of course I shielded him. I had to bring him through, he was only a kid, but when we made the deal for [Andreas] Kotelnik the terms were, and I sent a letter about this to his father and the WBA, that he fights Kotelnik and takes over his obligation to fight [then-WBA mandatory challenger Dmitriy] Salita, which was a nice fight for him but was hard to sell, and then fights the winner of Maidana and [Victor] Ortiz. A lot of people fancied Ortiz to beat Maidana, that is why Golden Boy made the fight, as Ortiz is their fighter, and the fight was shown on HBO, who know who Maidana is as Maidana has had more exposure in the States than Amir so they [Team Khan] knew what the obligations were: fight Maidana or drop the belt and go in another direction I was giving him that opportunity.

Do you think that Amir is now the complete package in boxing terms?

I still think he needs a little more grounding. All Amir needs to do is keep doing what he was doing with Freddie Roach, keep working on his defence. Weve seen what happens when hes hit on the chin but that can happen to any fighter when hit on the chin. He needs to work on his defence and the fights I made to get him back were fights that I calculated he could win. These were fights I had to talk him into taking, there was resistance to him fighting Kotelnik and I talked them [Team Khan] into that.

Do you have any regrets over the Khan situation?

It has happened, sometimes you look around and wonder what you could have done. I did everything I could have done for him and to say that he had to go to America to see what another promoter could do for him is a joke. Look at Golden Boy, nine years theyve been in business and name me one fighter theyve brought through. Fighters come to them because theyve got this blanket deal with HBO, which runs out next year, so it will be interesting to see if they [HBO] do another five-year one. I dont think they will.

Will they look after him? Who were they, Golden Boy, plumping for when Ricky Hatton fought Floyd Mayweather? The American promoter wants an American or Hispanic fighter to win. David Haye is fighting John Ruiz so who do you think the American promoters want to win? David Haye has a three-fight deal with Sauerland and works with Golden Boy but theyve [GBP] got no say in who he fights.

If you remember, Richard Schaefer at one stage said he was p****d off because he didnt know they had made the fight with Valuev. Theyve [GBP] signed John Ruiz so who is better for them, a Hispanic heavyweight or a British one? It goes without saying.

Does it show that you are still learning yourself?

What I wouldnt ever do again is work on a gentlemans agreement. Even at my age you can learn and therell be no more of those. Ive told that to a number of fighters over recent months.

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Some interesting comments from Frank..

NO MAS
02-19-2010, 07:19 AM
There are two sides to every tale but I think that is an okay interview...:yep

I think that the exposure he got Calzaghe and Hatton was great, especially for JC after the Starie fight...:barf and all credit to Starie, he made the best look atrocious...:yep

Amir Khan was and is fortunate that his promoter got him a World Title shot 12 months after been smoked...:yep There is no way that his next promoters will do this if he gets de-railed in the USA...:yep

It will be interesting to see how it all transpires...I must admit I loved the way that JC and RJJ did their business. A few text messages, met in London. Cut the promoters out and made all the money themselves...:happy

Grant1
02-19-2010, 07:32 AM
I like Frank.

mugen82
02-19-2010, 07:38 AM
Maybe i'm a fool, but I actually beleive Frank in most of this, he's actually speaking the truth, except maybe the Naz thing, but even that, he's worded it in such a way, that he's actually right, he didnt wanna be in effect what Barry Hearn turned into.

I actually beleive he was talking with ppl about making Khan have fghts in the uk against the very best, i.e. Alexander, Bradley, Maidana etc, but Khan wanted to fight in America, plus Roach didnt want him fighting these guys so soon, and wanted things done his way, so it came to a choice between Frank and Freddie, and personally i think Khan made the right choice, Freddie's the only one who can protect him from another career threatening beatdown, whilst keeping him respected.

zico2010
02-19-2010, 07:41 AM
A fair enough interview. Interesting point regarding the HBO/Golden Boy deal.

abzmanc
02-19-2010, 07:41 AM
So I dont understand the rationale [behind Khans decision], though I know what it is deep down but dont want to embarrass anybody.

:think

Redondo5
02-19-2010, 07:59 AM
There are some things that ****** says which are questionable... such as blanket statement of GBP wanting US-Hispanic fighter doing better than Brit.... Under the specific circumstances GBP would want the one who is more marketable and who sells more PPVs. Hays clearly has a whole country behind him, Sky PPV maybe and has charisma.... Ruiz...well the less said the better. Not withstanding the fact Haye may end up fighting GBP very own Bernard Hopkins.

Also the stuff he brings up about negotionting the kotelnik deal just stinks of bitterness

Overall ****** just sounds like ******....a complete bitter w******

ryanm8655
02-19-2010, 08:04 AM
:think

I would've thought he was suggesting Khan didn't want to risk getting knocked out by Maidana and at the same time didn't want to relinquish the title, with Goldenboy he had to do neither, with Frank he had to do one or the other.

Robert
02-19-2010, 08:04 AM
for all frank ****** shitey cards and matches he makes he does look after his boxers and make them money

Nel has heart
02-19-2010, 08:08 AM
''I know what it is deep down but dont want to embarrass anybody.''

I wonder what ****** means by that.....

mugen82
02-19-2010, 08:19 AM
''I know what it is deep down but dont want to embarrass anybody.''

I wonder what ****** means by that.....

Amir khan? Shah Khan? Asif Vali? Freddie Roach? Its gotta be one of the four, i think this thread deserves a poll :lol:

Redondo5
02-19-2010, 09:39 AM
Amir khan? Shah Khan? Asif Vali? Freddie Roach? Its gotta be one of the four, i think this thread deserves a poll :lol:

Beleive me, ****** would embarrass at the first opportunity...he's got very little class. The only reasons he wouldn't is either a) He's lying about it b) they would return the compliment and embarrass him with some of his behind the scene suggestions.

Nel has heart
02-19-2010, 09:45 AM
Amir khan? Shah Khan? Asif Vali? Freddie Roach? Its gotta be one of the four, i think this thread deserves a poll :lol:

I have a tingling feeling that Amir went with GBP because they offered him some kind of corrupt deal...It just all seems a bit wierd how ****** keeps dropping hints liek that. :-(

abzmanc
02-19-2010, 10:28 AM
He could be talking shit, on one hand he says he don't know the rationale in the decision... and in an instant later..he does know..but doesnt want to say... hmmmmm.

Darni187
02-19-2010, 10:50 AM
******: Amir made 10 million pounds with me. Plus Khan's Reebok deals.

PaddyD1983
02-19-2010, 10:53 AM
Forgive my cynicism, but I reckon Khan jumped ship for one reason alone...

$$$$$$$$

And fair play to him. Athletes get short careers, he needs to milk the cash cow for all it's worth.

I think ****** did a relatively good job with Khan. We were crying out for him to fight Thaxton and the like, but Frank has gotten him to a title and bags of cash with only one blip on the way. I dont think Frank would have struggled to get him the big fights, but my guess (and it is purely an incinuation) would be that GBP offered Khan some minimum purses which Khan didnt think he would get with Frank.

As an aside point, I hate the fact that we, as fans, get to see this side of it. In an ideal world the only thing we would know about is what happens in the ring. This soap opera around contractual disputes bores me at times.

izmat
02-19-2010, 11:07 AM
The last conversation I had with Amir was after the Salita fight when he said, Me and Frank are going to America.

At the post Salita fight interview ****** didn't seem to keen on the idea of fighting in the States!