Floyd Mayweather vs Ricky Hatton:Great News Inside And It Looks Like The Fight Is On

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[Marnoff]

Sounds good to me.

[David UK]

Hatton wants his next fight to be in Britain, and now has even more barginning power with HBO who want his signatute again now his contract has expired. Will Gayrunner agree to that? Highly unlikely I'd say. So when Hatton agrees to fight, say, Malignaggi in Manchester, Gayrunner will claim Ricky's ducking him. You read it here first folks!!

[Relentless]

boring.

[Strike]

If Floyd fights Hatton, I will be very surprised. I just don't see it happening, but if it does I think Hatton loses and badly. I don't think he gets stopped but totally outclassed.
If however somehow Hatton managed to win, all the haters would say that Mayweather was weight drained and had been inactive, it is typical of Hatton to pick to fight such an opponent.

[David UK]

No way will Floyd want to fight in the UK

[Relentless]

No way will Floyd want to fight in the UK

neither will cotto, mosley, margarito and maybe even malignaggi.

[grayggr]

neither will cotto, mosley, margarito and maybe even malignaggi.

Which is a shame. as Hatton throughout his career was labelled as protected in the UK. Wouldn't get any credit until he fought overseas. Shame PBF, Mosley and Malignaggi wont fight overseas for this one.

[Napuis]

If however somehow Hatton managed to win, all the haters would say that Mayweather was weight drained and had been inactive, it is typical of Hatton to pick to fight such an opponent.

Don't forget old and over the hill, completely past his prime...I mean 30 years old. Castillo was 33 and the way it's made out, came out of a retirement home to find Hatton. And Tszyu at 35, a title holder and demolisher of Harris in 3 rounds, was a geriatric.

Mayweather is past it, I wish Hatton would take on a real challenge.

[David UK]

Floyd has already stated he wants the fight on neutral turf in NY. I dont really see how an American fighting an Englishman in America is neutral territory but whatever, the fight wont be in England.

It's even LESS neutral territory than Hatton v Mayweather in Wales!!

[Relentless]

no matter what anyone says i can tell you now, none of the americans are going to come here to the uk, so quit complaining, there is nothing here for them.

[FlatNose]

Hatton for his part, seems willing enough to travel and take on challenges.Floyd used to, but is becoming a Roy Jones style prima donna.Not to say Hatton would beat Floyd, on the contrary, Mayweather would pummel Hatton probably, but i'd still rather see that than Mayweather take on more old guys for the big bucks.

[Relentless]

then the same people shouldnt moan about Europeans not travelling then!

Europeans dont have to go, but USA is the mecca of boxing, if they want to get rich and famous they will need to travel to the us, there is only so much they can achieve here in the uk.

[Napuis]

A fight at Wembley would get 95,000 pissed singing fans packed in, and would be screened worldwide.

At NYMSG, it will be more like another Elton John concert.

[Relentless]

A fight at Wembley would get 95,000 pissed singing fans packed in, and would be screened worldwide.

At NYMSG, it will be more like another Elton John concert.

dlh-mayweather only had 16,000+ people it made far more than fights like cotto-judah which had 20,000+

[Kojiro]

A fight at Wembley would get 95,000 pissed singing fans packed in, and would be screened worldwide.


Yeah. And perhaps something like 10% of them would know anything about boxing. I'll take the Elton John concert. :yep

[Strike]

Europeans dont have to go, but USA is the mecca of boxing, if they want to get rich and famous they will need to travel to the us, there is only so much they can achieve here in the uk.

Not true. Calzaghe is rich and famous having never fought in the US.

Hatton was rich long before he went to the US and famous in boxing circles which is all he cares about.

[quintonjacksonfan]

I disagree if Hatton wins people will say PFB was in his prime. I think people

would take Hatton all-time P4P ranking going up as long as it puts a blemish

on PBF career

[Relentless]

yes rich but he could have been a mega star if he went to the us, he has speed which match up to roy jones, imagine if the US saw that?

they are rich but could do much better, why do you think hatton went over to the us???

hatton could have gotten urango and collazo to come to the uk and fight.

[Relentless]

i think he cares, because right now he is looking for the big fights, he wants bhops, winky, roy jones, it would have been much easier to get them if he were more known in the US

[Relentless]

actually it would have been far easier, the reason why bhop, winky and jones dont want to fight calzaghe because he is risk over reward, the US dont really know him, beating him will not prove much and losing to him would mess them up,

now say he were fighting in the us making a name for himself bhop, winky and jones would have no problem fighting him since he is a star like them.

[Relentless]

Yet he has to fight on thier turf, and start with a disadvantage? Relentless your hate for British boxers is a joke as we can tell from your classic threads such as ****Castillo will destroy Hatton**** and many of your other posts.

i dont hate british fighters, heck i am british, i might not like hatton but i like calzaghe and have liked benn, lewis, and prince naseem.

i hate amir khan.

[Relentless]

what does any of this have to do with me hating british fighters though?? you dont have an argument so you change the subject and try ti make me look like a cunt?

[grayggr]

no matter what anyone says i can tell you now, none of the americans are going to come here to the uk, so quit complaining, there is nothing here for them.
Nothing here for them??????

There is. Ricky Hatton (2 weight World Champ - Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year 2005, unbeatenin 43), in front of 90,000, and a bumper pay day for the gate alone, if that's nothing then they may as well quit the sport.

If fighting in front a live 90,000 audience means nothing then oh well. So be it. The fight could be done at US time to get on TV like the Kostya fight.

If Hatton fights in the States 90% of the crowd is British. So he gets home advantage whether it's Vegas, NYC, manchester, London, Mongolia.

If he's so bad...give him a beating in his own back yard.

[Relentless]

I do have an argument, you make constant posts about how crap British fighters are, then make the argument that if they dont fight in the US they amount to nothing.....ever heard of Monzon? Being such a boxing-god Im sure you have, how many times did he fight in the USA in 90-odd fights? Once, maybe twice yet we all know who he is dont we!

please show the posts i have made talking about how crap british fighters are except for the castillo destroys hatton thread,

i have said british fighters need to get over to the US if they want to make a name for themselves, they can become richer and more famaous.

i also said the reason winky bhop and jones wont fight calzaghe is because alot of the american boxing fans dont know him, he has skills to match roy jones but what good is it if he didn't show it off, and now he is becoming old.

[Relentless]

Nothing here for them??????

There is. Ricky Hatton (2 weight World Champ - Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year 2005, unbeatenin 43), in front of 90,000, and a bumper pay day for the gate alone, if that's nothing then they may as well quit the sport.

If fighting in front a live 90,000 audience means nothing then oh well. So be it. The fight could be done at US time to get on TV like the Kostya fight.

If Hatton fights in the States 90% of the crowd is British. So he gets home advantage whether it's Vegas, NYC, manchester, London, Mongolia.

If he's so bad...give him a beating in his own back yard.

90.000 people dont mean 90 million pounds/dollars

there were only 16.000 people at the de la hoya - mayweather fight and that was the richest fight in history.

[Relentless]

it looks like arrans getting pissed off, just watch him come on and start the name calling and insults! :lol:

i could imagine him hitting the computer desk and pulling his hair off. :lol:

[Tencount85]

Why would anyone want to see this? I mean, people WILL see it, but it will be a boring fight with PBF evading Hatton because of his body attack enroute to a decision similar to PBF vs. Baldomir.

[Relentless]

Relkentless, why would I get pissed off with someone who knows nothing about boxing, I see this as teaching my 2 year old sister about the sport as you are obviously in the wrong forum, maybe you should try something else.

:|:|:|

wah wah wah!!!!

[Relentless]

Wah Wah Wah? ****Castillo will destroy Hatton**** - classic!

:patsch wow you're desperate :lol::lol::lol:

sounds like a cry for help :|:|:|

why dont you ask david uk to help you?

[China_hand_Joe]

A fight at Wembley would get 95,000 pissed singing fans packed in, and would be screened worldwide.

At NYMSG, it will be more like another Elton John concert.Mayweather fears the English crowd, for good reasons too.

[Relentless]

Really? Are a bunch of emoticons supposed to make up for the lack of a decent response?

the emoticons represent what you are feeling at this moment.

right now this emoticon :fire represents what you are feeling.

[grayggr]

90.000 people dont mean 90 million pounds/dollars

there were only 16.000 people at the de la hoya - mayweather fight and that was the richest fight in history.

No it certainly doesn't but you said that there was nothing for US fighters to come here for.

If performing in front of a gate like that against an opponent like Hatton doesn't appeal then I dont know what else does.

[Relentless]

for guys like mayweather money is everything, i can tell he will not come to england without atleast 8-10 million dollars.

[Relentless]

No im smiling, not angry, some bird at work just spilt a whole cup-a-soup down her top, hopefully she will take it off in a minute. You are a pe-on, your threads and posts prove this. Look through your own post history, nothing but Hatton hate, I would take some quotes and post them up, but I really cant be arsed, maybe later

nah do it now, you have nothing else to do, so you might aswell do it now.

[grayggr]

Why would anyone want to see this? I mean, people WILL see it, but it will be a boring fight with PBF evading Hatton because of his body attack enroute to a decision similar to PBF vs. Baldomir.

Hatton's ability to get inside, his handspeed, footwork, and skill of cutting off the ring, make your Baldomir anology seem way off point. If you are alluding that Hatton is a fighter in a similar vein to Baldomir I suggest you watch lacrosse.

[grayggr]

for guys like mayweather money is everything, i can tell he will not come to england without atleast 8-10 million dollars.

Which surely you'll accept (seen as though PBF was involved in the biggest payday fight against DLH) that it's a shame he wont fight out of principal but just to get richer.

I accept with the short career span, and inherant risk involved, that money is important. But there's living a more than comfortable existance and just downright muther fricken greed.

[China_hand_Joe]

Hatton's ability to get inside, his handspeed, footwork, and skill of cutting off the ring, make your Baldomir anology seem way off point. If you are alluding that Hatton is a fighter in a similar vein to Baldomir I suggest you watch lacrosse.Not to mention Baldomir is all about the right hand (and little else) whilst the left provides many key punches for Hatton. A very two handed fighter.

[pit]

If Floyd fights Hatton, I will be very surprised. I just don't see it happening, but if it does I think Hatton loses and badly. I don't think he gets stopped but totally outclassed.
If however somehow Hatton managed to win, all the haters would say that Mayweather was weight drained and had been inactive, it is typical of Hatton to pick to fight such an opponent.

This statement really make you look bad anyone who follows this sport that weight has never been an issue with floyd and I highly doubt that he would go down to 140 to meet Hatton .. the balls in Floyd court if Hatton want the fight he will have to make 147 not 140..

[bill poster]

catchweight fight

[Lampley]

I don't understand all the angst on this thread. Mayweather is PfP No. 1, so it's his option to demand the bout on his home turf. It's the same reason DM was wrong not to pursue Roy in the U.S., if he really wanted the fight. It's also the same reason that Jeff Lacy needed to go abroad to fight Calzaghe, who was the man at 168. See how that works?

There are other market factors in play, such as HBO money -- let's now overlook how critical this is -- and they prefer venues in the United States. In that regard, both fighters are just following along.

I realize everyone is on a Hatton buzz right now, but how does Ricky present a better challenge to Floyd than Cotto? I'd rather Floyd wait to see whether Williams beats Margarito, and if he does, go ahead and challenge Miguel. If Margo wins, then Hatton or Mosley would seem to be the best options.

[Lampley]

catchweight fight

Hatton doesn't have the truck to demand a catchweight. It's his responsibility to cave to Floyd's demands, provided Floyd offers reasonable compensation for his efforts. I'm guessing Ricky would be willing to do that, and that Floyd will make a bogus offer that kills the fight.

[grayggr]

I don't understand all the angst on this thread. Mayweather is PfP No. 1, so it's his option to demand the bout on his home turf. It's the same reason DM was wrong not to pursue Roy in the U.S., if he really wanted the fight. It's also the same reason that Jeff Lacy needed to go abroad to fight Calzaghe, who was the man at 168. See how that works?

There are other market factors in play, such as HBO money -- let's now overlook how critical this is -- and they prefer venues in the United States. In that regard, both fighters are just following along.

I realize everyone is on a Hatton buzz right now, but how does Ricky present a better challenge to Floyd than Cotto? I'd rather Floyd wait to see whether Williams beats Margarito, and if he does, go ahead and challenge Miguel. If Margo wins, then Hatton or Mosley would seem to be the best options.

Yet if Hatton would have fought Collazo, Urango and Castillo in the UK he would have been labelled 'protected' rather than it was the fact that he is the man at the weight and the bigger draw?

[pit]

Hatton doesn't have the truck to demand a catchweight. It's his responsibility to cave to Floyd's demands, provided Floyd offers reasonable compensation for his efforts. I'm guessing Ricky would be willing to do that, and that Floyd will make a bogus offer that kills the fight.

I agree with you on your first statement and disagree with you on your second just because its speculation. I have feeling that floyd really dislikes Hatton at this point and will go out of his way to show the world that Ricky is full of shit .. whether thats true or not is yet to be seen , I guess we will have to see how this all plays out since its Elebre making the comments and not floyd.

[Lampley]

I agree with you on your first statement and disagree with you on your second just because its speculation. I have feeling that floyd really dislikes Hatton at this point and will go out of his way to show the world that Ricky is full of shit .. whether thats true or not is yet to be seen , I guess we will have to see how this all plays out since its Elebre making the comments and not floyd.

I hope you're right. It just seems to me that Floyd is now overestimating his own appeal the way that Roy Jones always did (although even he made a fair offer to Hopkins), and as a result the two sides coming to a deal may be unlikely. Like I said, though, I hope you're right.

[Lampley]

Yet if Hatton would have fought Collazo, Urango and Castillo in the UK he would have been labelled 'protected' rather than it was the fact that he is the man at the weight and the bigger draw?

Hatton never has been the man at 147. More to your point, Hatton obviously decided that he stood a better chance of demanding fights against the big American names -- best competition, most money -- if he invested some time in the United States. I wouldn't call Hatton protected if he insisted on Urango coming to the UK anymore than I would Calzaghe for calling over Bika, but he made a career move. Doesn't change my opinion of him either way.

But if we're talking about Floyd, then clearly he is in the inferior position in terms of clout, so he needs to make the bulk of the concessions. And do we have any reason to believe he wouldn't? I'd love to see Mayweather vs. Hatton in the UK and, if Floyd thought long-term, maybe he'd realize that the fight would have the most revenue potential there after all. But that's entirely his perogative.

[Guru_Too_You]

for guys like mayweather money is everything, i can tell he will not come to england without atleast 8-10 million dollars.

LOL.

Thats 5 million cheaper than what Hatton demanded last time team Mayweather tried to get him in the ring.

I love how people call Mayweather boring and praise Hatton. Hatton would be exciting, if this was the WWE.

Then, Mayweather is a money grub who will shelf fights because he wont get enough money. Well, he did that against Winky Wright, a fighter who is naturally about 6 weight classes bigger than he is, whereas Hatton did it to Mayweather, a titlist in his natural weight class.

You people crack me up. Good thing though, I needed a laugh this morning.

[Relentless]

LOL.

Thats 5 million cheaper than what Hatton demanded last time team Mayweather tried to get him in the ring.

I love how people call Mayweather boring and praise Hatton. Hatton would be exciting, if this was the WWE.

Then, Mayweather is a money grub who will shelf fights because he wont get enough money. Well, he did that against Winky Wright, a fighter who is naturally about 6 weight classes bigger than he is, whereas Hatton did it to Mayweather, a titlist in his natural weight class.

You people crack me up. Good thing though, I needed a laugh this morning.

you might have missed some of the previous posts, i am far from a hatton fan.

[Guru_Too_You]

you might have missed some of the previous posts, i am far from a hatton fan.

Not targeted at you in any way shape or form.

Its just a general position.

[nervousxtian]

Hatton needs Floyd more than Floyd needs Hatton.

UK fighters who want to get exposure come to the US, unlike Joe Calzaghe. If Joe came to the US, shit.. even for the Manfredo fight, he'd get way more exposure, and more love from US fight fans.

Floyd vs Hatton would never happen in the UK, unless you guys start the fight at like 3am so we could have a decent US start time on the West Coast.

[Relentless]

Hatton needs Floyd more than Floyd needs Hatton.

UK fighters who want to get exposure come to the US, unlike Joe Calzaghe. If Joe came to the US, shit.. even for the Manfredo fight, he'd get way more exposure, and more love from US fight fans.

Floyd vs Hatton would never happen in the UK, unless you guys start the fight at like 3am so we could have a decent US start time on the West Coast.

try explaining that to arran.

[Guru_Too_You]

Do you really think Joe Calzaghe gives a **** if a bunch of people 3000 miles away care for him? I dont! I care what my friends think of me, I dont care waht some geezer in Australia that I have never met thinks of me. I think you guys actually believe your oww verbal bullshit, and that people care what you think....guess what, not everybody does!

Carlos Monzon!


Releentless we did that for Joe V Lacy, thier weres still more fans at 3am than thier would be in the US for 8pm!

LOL. That would explain why he fought Contender RUNNER UP at 147 Peter Manfredo right? Because he doesnt care what Americans think? Or perhaps he came over here to fight Bika because he needed some extra air miles for a free gift?

[Relentless]

Do you really think Joe Calzaghe gives a **** if a bunch of people 3000 miles away care for him? I dont! I care what my friends think of me, I dont care waht some geezer in Australia that I have never met thinks of me. I think you guys actually believe your oww verbal bullshit, and that people care what you think....guess what, not everybody does!

Carlos Monzon!


Releentless we did that for Joe V Lacy, thier weres still more fans at 3am than thier would be in the US for 8pm!

but he wants the big money fights that he can get only in america, he wants guys like roy jones, he wants a few big paydays before he retires and the only way to do that is to go to the US

carlos monzon might have been a great fighter but how much money did he make?

[Relentless]

i'm not gonna argue with you no more, you just dont get itm how about you forget your hate for the US for once and try and understand?

[grayggr]

Hatton never has been the man at 147. More to your point, Hatton obviously decided that he stood a better chance of demanding fights against the big American names -- best competition, most money -- if he invested some time in the United States. I wouldn't call Hatton protected if he insisted on Urango coming to the UK anymore than I would Calzaghe for calling over Bika, but he made a career move. Doesn't change my opinion of him either way.

But if we're talking about Floyd, then clearly he is in the inferior position in terms of clout, so he needs to make the bulk of the concessions. And do we have any reason to believe he wouldn't? I'd love to see Mayweather vs. Hatton in the UK and, if Floyd thought long-term, maybe he'd realize that the fight would have the most revenue potential there after all. But that's entirely his perogative.
I was referring to Hatton being the man at Light Welter. Hatton has not been the man at Welter but had more clout, recognition wise, than Collazo even though he was the belt holder and was therefore in the better bargaining position.

In any event my point was that I hate the fact that every non-us fighter must travel to the US to be verified, it's disrespectul to quality fighters in Europe and Asia who should expect Americans to travel some of the time. I mean talk about refusing to step out of your comfort zone.

*edit*
NB I am not anti-american in any way shape or form. I think there are excellent US fighters and have been throughout the sports history. I have met plenty of American people, visited your country 7 times and have plenty of positive things to say, so I dont wish to come across as a hater. I just think that a balance must be struck. The rest of the world has excellent venues, excellent fighters, the boxing world does not have to be confined to Vegas, Atlantic City or MSG. Indeed the MEN arena has provided some excellent match ups over the years involving fighters such as Hamed, Calzaghe, Hatton, and even Mike Tyson.

[Relentless]

Im not hating on the US, im hating on the people claiming you have to fight in the US to be any good, that is bollox, Joe proved it, Carlos Monzon proved it! Its americans thinking that they are the centre of the universe to which this notion comes from that only people who fight on US soil are any good!

you dont have to fight in the us to be good just be rich, joe is rich but he could be far more richer.

look at naseem hamed, he went to the us and made millions.

[Guru_Too_You]

Im not hating on the US, im hating on the people claiming you have to fight in the US to be any good, that is bollox, Joe proved it, Carlos Monzon proved it! Its americans thinking that they are the centre of the universe to which this notion comes from that only people who fight on US soil are any good! Its bollox, it has been proved! Hence the WBO!

Yeah there are excpetions.

You named two from the last 25 years. Congratulations.

Name five more. Then maybe I'll take anything your biased ass says as pertinent to a debate.

[Guru_Too_You]

Kessler is another, fought in the US once, his 7th fight or something, is he shit or not?

Nobody outside of hardcore fans know who he is.

Why?

He has not been on American television.

Cmon smart ass, keep em coming. It only makes the obvious, blatantly apparent.

NOBODY has problems with it except the Brits.

[Relentless]

why did hatton go to fight collazo and urango?? he could have easily gotten them to come to the uk

[Guru_Too_You]

why did hatton go to fight collazo and urango?? he could have easily gotten them to come to the uk

This kid's favorite fighters even acknowledge the fact yet he cant.

Its sad.

[Guru_Too_You]

ahahahahah Floyd you think that Hatton use your name to promote himself?ahahahah like if he need you..

Then why is Floyd featured in EVERY single Hatton interview?

Hatton had more than one opportunity to fight Floyd and turned them down.

[charlievint]

No way will Floyd want to fight in the UK

Yes he will....Floyd can make so much more money with the GATE revenues in Eng than he could ever do in any State in the US. So he wants the fight in UK.

The gate revenue and the PPV numbers would give Floyd anther very large payday, which is all Floyd cares about.

[Thread Stealer]

The title of the thread is misleading, I was hoping there was some progress more than just the trash talk.

It's far from "on" at this point, I have a bad feeling about the negotiations. Probably b/c being a boxing fan for so long has you often feeling pessimistic.

Both sides will try to fight for every last dollar and advantage. I just hope they can come to terms on the fight.

[charlievint]

1 You can only spend so much cash in 1 lifetime

2 What does he care if someone 3000 miles away dosent know who he is?

EGO! When a person has all the money they can shake a stick at, then they get their "itch scratched" some other way....and normally that is with FAME, Name recognition or just being the center of attention. That's why Ricky came to the US....thats why Joe C wants to come to the US to finish out his career.

[charlievint]

Im not hating on the US, im hating on the people claiming you have to fight in the US to be any good, that is bollox, Joe proved it, Carlos Monzon proved it! Its americans thinking that they are the centre of the universe to which this notion comes from that only people who fight on US soil are any good! Its bollox, it has been proved! Hence the WBO!

Americans dont' think that fighters are NOT good if they don't fight in the US.....they just feel they haven't been in with the very best the WORLD has to offer.

Since the US is the MECCA of boxing....Great fighters from ALL countries flock to the US to test their skills and prove not only to themselves but to the WORLD of boxing that they are as good as their own "backyard" fans feel they are.

Coming to America to box is a way to reach the highest plateau in a boxers career.

[charlievint]

Joe C dosent want to go to the US! He sais this in his documentary ''no ordinary joe'' he will fight thier if the pussy (whoever that pussy be, who has never travelled my guessing)wont come here, same as going to Denmark if he must. Infact if you watch that documentry him and his dad both have very clear opinions of the US fight fans and they arnt good!

Never watched it. BUT...I did read in a couple of articles that he was going to come to the US for his next fight. Did anyone else hear that?

[Guru_Too_You]

The US WAS the mecca of boxing, and thats only because the mob controlled it. Thats why the WBO was created, fact is, thier are more European Champions than American champions, so how can people still claim this? And how can fighting on Amwerican soil be the highest plateau,. im sorry but if 15000 at the Thomas and Mack is better than 60,000 at Wembley to any boxer then I just dont get it!

Maybe you should listen to your countrymen. Hatton almost got hard when he was talking about fighting at MSG.

[Guru_Too_You]

Yeah the MSG and Madison Square are among the so called ''mecca'' but the Thomas and Mack? Boston? None of these places touch Wembley, Millenium or the MEN do they!

Youre right. So many fighters worldwide dream of fighting at Wembley, the Millenium or the MEN long before they dream of fighting at the MGM Grand or Madison Square Garden.

You're delusional dog.

[Relentless]

msg is madison square garden

[Relentless]

i've always dreamed of fighting at Caesars palace

[charlievint]

The US WAS the mecca of boxing, and thats only because the mob controlled it. Thats why the WBO was created, fact is, thier are more European Champions than American champions, so how can people still claim this? And how can fighting on Amwerican soil be the highest plateau,. im sorry but if 15000 at the Thomas and Mack is better than 60,000 at Wembley to any boxer then I just dont get it!

Having more champions in a nation doesn't automatically mean that's the MECCA. Thialand has MANY champions, so does Mexico but they are not the MECCA of boxing...the US is and that's fact.

Fighting in front of 60,000 Fans is great! No doubt, but again...that has nothing to do with finding the very best opposition. The best flock to the US from all parts of the globe which is why the US is the MECCA of boxing.

More quality fighters find their way to the US to train, get better, get famous and reach their highest financial goals. They can't do that anywhere else but the US right now....Things could change, but rome wasn't built in a night.

[charlievint]

Yeah the MSG and Madison Square are among the so called ''mecca'' but the Thomas and Mack? Boston? None of these places touch Wembley, Millenium or the MEN do they!

Sure they do....Wembly, Milleium and MEN are very large arenas but no one really cares about who has the best stadium.

[JETSKI]

No way will Floyd want to fight in the UK

Why fuckin' not??? He's the P4P best fighter in the history of the sport. Location should bother him. If Hatton has been disrespectful of Joy Jr. like his advisor Ellerbe said (which is crock of shit compared to all of Floyds yappin') PBF should welcome the chance to beat hatton ass in front of his home crowd. Thats what I'd want if I was taking this fight "personally", like Floyd says he is.

[charlievint]

so charlie, you would rather perform infron of 18,000 at the Thomas and Mack because its on US soil than on English soil infront of 60000+ at Wembley?

Dude...I'm with you...I can't imagine the feeling of being in front of 60,000 people...let alone fighting in front of 60,000 crazy boxing fans. It would be nuts.

But I'd rather get a ENTRIE experince if I were to be fighting for a championship title. the MGM as you mentioned or Cesars Palace are awesome venue's with lots of "sizzle"....Vegas is a great boxing city, although they can't match the amount of fans they can take in that Wembly can.

[buddynabuick]

No way will Floyd want to fight in the UK


I don't think that paper-tiger would fight Hatton anywhere

[buddynabuick]

no matter what anyone says i can tell you now, none of the americans are going to come here to the uk, so quit complaining, there is nothing here for them.



Except a ass whooping:bbb

[Muskyrat]

believe it when i see it
would have thought if he was after another big payday he'd have a dlh rematch first

[buddynabuick]

then the same people shouldnt moan about Europeans not travelling then!


YEP! maybe they could fight on a ship in international water! ROCK THE BOAT:bbb

[Danny Ocean]

hatton has 2wice turned the fight down

i hope floyd ends his career

[buddynabuick]

Yep, we've heard this all many times:-(


if its boring, why are you fellows reading? Since I have not read it, its not boring for me.:yep Click on something else.

[buddynabuick]

Im not hating on the US, im hating on the people claiming you have to fight in the US to be any good, that is bollox, Joe proved it, Carlos Monzon proved it! Its americans thinking that they are the centre of the universe to which this notion comes from that only people who fight on US soil are any good! Its bollox, it has been proved! Hence the WBO!


I am American and I do not hold this THOUGHT. Do away with the home turf and fight on a boat in international water. It would be HUGE:good

[My dinner with Conteh]

Yanks only think a fight's fair if it's on their own turf anyway and they cry otherwise (just like they always do). Hatton may as well have it there, it'll be mostly full of Brits anyway- and about four Mayweather fans. :lol:

[David UK]

The point is not whether Hatton will fight in the USA because he has and he will again, but he wants his NEXT fight to be in Britain. So if his next fight is against Mayweather will Mayweather get on a plane?

[Guru_Too_You]

The point is not whether Hatton will fight in the USA because he has and he will again, but he wants his NEXT fight to be in Britain. So if his next fight is against Mayweather will Mayweather get on a plane?

Will Ricky ever have the balls to sign the contract?

[Danny Ocean]

mayweather doesnt have to get on a plane

hes fought in other fighters hometowns before

plus hatton wont sign the contract anyway

[C Money]

Great news?? WHERE???


Great NEWS, is the fucking fight is SIGNED!! Ellerbe and team Mayweather always talk shit BUT WHAT ARE THE TERMS????
60/40 for PBF would be fair. 80/20 Floyd or some BS like that??
Then you have yet ANOTHER OFFER/SMOKESCREEN designed to make Floyd look like he wants to fight top opposition.


As for where the fight takes place?? Brit fans are gonna have to suck it up and come back to Vegas. Right or wrong, PBF isnt going to the UK. I'm sure that the british contingent in attendance will be large and vocal as usual.

[sandwichsurgeon]

mayweather doesnt have to get on a plane

hes fought in other fighters hometowns before

plus hatton wont sign the contract anyway

I remember you

Aren't you the one that posted a thread about falling in love with a girl just because you thought she smiled at you on the bus?

I guess you have proved to be pathetic in more than one instance now, well done:good

[Bazooka]

This fight will happen in Vegas no doubt, hell this could happen on Floyds front lawn and I can promise you that there will be more Hatton fans there than Floyd fans.

[sandwichsurgeon]

I would hate it to happen in Vegas because of the gloves, it would slow things down i reckon.

[buddynabuick]

Yanks only think a fight's fair if it's on their own turf anyway and they cry otherwise (just like they always do). Hatton may as well have it there, it'll be mostly full of Brits anyway- and about four Mayweather fans. :lol:


I say hatton needs to show whom is the better man and whoop Floyd in his own back-yard! Floyd WILL NOT fight Hatton anywhere at any price IMO:-(

[My dinner with Conteh]

Yeah there are excpetions.

You named two from the last 25 years. Congratulations.

Name five more. Then maybe I'll take anything your biased ass says as pertinent to a debate.



it didn't harm Eubank much either. I don't think he really cares if he'd known by the Jethro's from Baton Rouge or the Brad's from Keokuck, Iowa. Ali fought out of the US loads of times, Foreman too in his first tenure as champ.The Thrilla in Manila just wouldn't have had the mystique if it been in Yankee Stadium. The thing about a neutral venue is that it helps if both can sell out and frankly, Mayweather couldn't. He'd only sell about nine tickets, so that's a non-strater. So America it'll have to be.

[Guru_Too_You]

I say hatton needs to show whom is the better man and whoop Floyd in his own back-yard! Floyd WILL NOT fight Hatton anywhere at any price IMO:-(

Were you under a rock the first two times Floyd tried to get Hatton in the ring?

[Danny Ocean]

This fight will happen in Vegas no doubt, hell this could happen on Floyds front lawn and I can promise you that there will be more Hatton fans there than Floyd fans.

that just means there will be more people crying after floyd fucks him up

[David UK]

mayweather doesnt have to get on a plane

hes fought in other fighters hometowns before

plus hatton wont sign the contract anyway

:lol: Would he come by boat then? :lol:

[C Money]

Were you under a rock the first two times Floyd tried to get Hatton in the ring?

I dont know about him, BUT I KNOW HATTON WAS UNDER CONTRACT WITH FRANK ****** when those "offers" were made.That contract didnt expire until after Hatton fought Maussa on 11/25/05 and Floyd fought MITCHELL at 47 on 11/19/2005.Why the hell are Floyd fans STILL clinging to that smokescreen?? Its PATHETIC:lol: Why is it OK for Floyd to rid himself of Bob Arum but not for Hatton to rid himself of Frank ******??:-( :-( :-(

BTW, arent they talking about a fight RIGHT NOW?? Quit hanging on to past BULLSHIT and start hoping they COME REAL right now. 60/40 for PBF in Vegas and Hatton should sign :deal

[David UK]

Were you under a rock the first two times Floyd tried to get Hatton in the ring?

Floyd has never tried to get Hatton in the ring. Hatton admitted on previous occasions that he wasn't ready for someone as good as Mayweather. But never mind. The important point is that almost uniquely for boxers Hatton is freshingly honest and Mayweather should have taken these remarks as a huge compliment. Unlike Roy Jones, Hopkins and Taylor, Ricky didn't make various 'excuses' such as pricing himself out of a fight, insisting on home advantage, or jumping two weight divisions to avoid a fight he didn't fancy.

[C Money]

:lol: Would he come by boat then? :lol:


Hatton will have to come to Vegas. Floyd's pompous primadonna ass isnt going overseas. Lets just hope they give Hatton a fair $$$$$ offer and the FIGHT ACTUALLY HAPPENS:good

[sandwichsurgeon]

Fuck Vegas MSG! MSG! MSG!

[Thread Stealer]

Yes he will....Floyd can make so much more money with the GATE revenues in Eng than he could ever do in any State in the US. So he wants the fight in UK.

The gate revenue and the PPV numbers would give Floyd anther very large payday, which is all Floyd cares about.

I don't know about that. Floyd will most likely feel more comfortable in Vegas where he lives and has fought on and off for a long time (and the last 3 fights). Floyd has said he'd go to England, and other times he says he wouldn't go and that Tszyu lost his title in a wrestling match. I don't think he'd go to Manchester.

I'm not really sure about the money either, what makes more. Wembley would have WAY more people than Vegas at the fight itself, but at what prices, and what about the site fee? Casinos in Vegas can afford extremely expensive site fees because they make so much money from the gamblers and high-rollers. The live gate is only part of the money the casino makes on a big fight. If a lot of English fans come over to Vegas to support Hatton and watch the fight, you can bet the casino will make a lot of money from the out-of-towners gambling as well.

I was worried a couple years ago that this would be another RJJ-Darius situation, but to his credit, Hatton is willing to travel and fight in the states. Now it's just a matter of negotiations and ego and greed not getting in the way.

[The Kurgan]

It's on! It's on!

[nervousxtian]

You brits are amazing.. just a couple years ago you were dogging on Joe Calzaghe, talking shit about him, slappy and all that.. English fans didn't like him.

He beats Lacy, and you're all on the bandwagon.. don't pretend like it ain't true.

[Thom]

Floyd has never tried to get Hatton in the ring. Hatton admitted on previous occasions that he wasn't ready for someone as good as Mayweather. But never mind. The important point is that almost uniquely for boxers Hatton is freshingly honest and Mayweather should have taken these remarks as a huge compliment. Unlike Roy Jones, Hopkins and Taylor, Ricky didn't make various 'excuses' such as pricing himself out of a fight, insisting on home advantage, or jumping two weight divisions to avoid a fight he didn't fancy.


Get your facts straight asshole.

“We turned down two offers to face Mayweather last year,” Hatton said.

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[Relentless]

owned....

[MIK1000]

i really hpe this gets made but to be honest i doubt it will.

[Danny Ocean]

“We turned down two offers to face Mayweather last year,” Hatton said. “I think the offers would be more realistic now. But we would like Richard to have two or so fights in America before we look at Mayweather.”

[David UK]

Get your facts straight asshole.

“We turned down two offers to face Mayweather last year,” Hatton said.

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Ok Fair enough. I hadn't realised that, although that wasn't the point I was making. The point I was making is that Hatton was honest enough to admit he wasn't ready for Mayweather, rather than making the usual excuses we have seen over the years from Jones,Hopkins, and most recently, Taylor. Plus hundreds of other boxers

[Danny Ocean]

Ok Fair enough. I hadn't realised that, although that wasn't the point I was making. The point I was making is that Hatton was honest enough to admit he wasn't ready for Mayweather, rather than making the usual excuses we have seen over the years from Jones,Hopkins, and most recently, Taylor. Plus hundreds of other boxers

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

now whos floyd gayrunner

[Relentless]

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

now whos floyd gayrunner

no floyd mayweather still runs.

[hahahax]

Hatton wants his next fight to be in Britain, and now has even more barginning power with HBO who want his signatute again now his contract has expired. Will Gayrunner agree to that? Highly unlikely I'd say. So when Hatton agrees to fight, say, Malignaggi in Manchester, Gayrunner will claim Ricky's ducking him. You read it here first folks!!

mayweather does not have to agree to hatton's terms.. what the fuck are you smoking?

[Danny Ocean]

no floyd mayweather still runs.

but he dont duck hatton

[Thom]

Ok Fair enough. I hadn't realised that, although that wasn't the point I was making. The point I was making is that Hatton was honest enough to admit he wasn't ready for Mayweather, rather than making the usual excuses we have seen over the years from Jones,Hopkins, and most recently, Taylor. Plus hundreds of other boxers


Fair enough, but I'm sick and tired of seeing people repeat the line about Mayweather being responsible for the Hatton fight not happening when they were both at 140 or even going so far as to claim that Floyd was/is afraid of fighting Ricky. The fact is that Mayweather tried to make the fight and team Hatton said they weren't ready, so he moved up to face Judah. I'm also sick of people implying that Floyd is going torpedo this fight before it gets about the gate with "outrageous demands" because of his ego. Seven or eight months ago, everyone said he would ruin negotiations with DLH because of his ego, yet the guy ended up signing a contract for the first valid offer he received w/o even thinking about it.

Bottom line, there's big money to be made here and if both fighters are on board this time, the fight’s going to get done.

[C Money]

60/40 and let the WORLD FIND OUT!! Stop living in BS offer past. They made those offers during the ****** era and Hatton's had 3 fights since. They are discussing it right now and ALL IT SHOULD TAKE IS A FAIR $$$$$OFFER. 60/40, in Vegas and the world has a meaningful fight that should happen :D

[Relentless]

60/40 and let the WORLD FIND OUT!! Stop living in BS offer past. They made those offers during the ****** era and Hatton's had 3 fights since. They are discussing it right now and ALL IT SHOULD TAKE IS A FAIR $$$$$OFFER. 60/40, in Vegas and the world has a meaningful fight that should happen :D

damn.... that is alot of fights.

[David UK]

Fair enough, but I'm sick and tired of seeing people repeat the line about Mayweather being responsible for the Hatton fight not happening when they were both at 140 or even going so far as to claim that Floyd was/is afraid of fighting Ricky. The fact is that Mayweather tried to make the fight and team Hatton said they weren't ready, so he moved up to face Judah. I'm also sick of people implying that Floyd is going torpedo this fight before it gets about the gate with "outrageous demands" because of his ego. Seven or eight months ago, everyone said he would ruin negotiations with DLH because of his ego, yet the guy ended up signing a contract for the first valid offer he received w/o even thinking about it.

Bottom line, there's big money to be made here and if both fighters are on board this time, the fight’s going to get done.

Well I've never said that Floyd was responsible for this fight not happening to date. What I AM saying is that Ricky wants his next fight to be in the UK. So if Mayweather wants to be his next opponent, will he come to Britain?

[pit]

Well I've never said that Floyd was responsible for this fight not happening to date. What I AM saying is that Ricky wants his next fight to be in the UK. So if Mayweather wants to be his next opponent, will he come to Britain?


Ant going to happen Floyd is in the drivers seat not Hatton and if Hattons want the fight it going to be in Vagaus ,,Floyd knows dame well that in Manchester the ref would let Hatton hug him into a UD.
Im pretty sure Floyd not down for Hugging so fight would have to be in the U.S

[Thread Stealer]

You can turn the tables around and figure that Hatton knows in the US
the ref would let PBF run all night to get the UD.

Bottom line, if this fight is to be made it needs to happen in as neutral a territory as possible.

"Running" is legal. Holding and hitting and all the wrestling is not.

The "neutral" territory won't work because you have to fight where the fans will be. That's either the U.S. (most likely Vegas) or England.

I don't think Mayweather will want to go to England. And despite the fact that a whole lot more fans will show up for the fight in Manchester than Vegas, I don't know if it actually can actually outbid a Vegas casino for the site fee. The live gate is only part of the money that a casino pulls in when there's a big fight.

[charlievint]

I don't think that paper-tiger would fight Hatton anywhere

Paper tiger? LOL...Hatton must be a "spit ball" then. All jokes aside Mayweather would only fight Hatton if the money was to his likeing and there is good money to be made in Hattons home.

The question of if Floyd can beat Hatton isn't even a question b/c Floyd would school hatton. And I LIKE Hatton, but the writting is on the wall and Hatton can't beat Pretty boy on any day, In hatton's back yard or in Haton's own kitchen. But it would still be a fun thing to watch.

[charlievint]

I don't know about that. Floyd will most likely feel more comfortable in Vegas where he lives and has fought on and off for a long time (and the last 3 fights). Floyd has said he'd go to England, and other times he says he wouldn't go and that Tszyu lost his title in a wrestling match. I don't think he'd go to Manchester.

I'm not really sure about the money either, what makes more. Wembley would have WAY more people than Vegas at the fight itself, but at what prices, and what about the site fee? Casinos in Vegas can afford extremely expensive site fees because they make so much money from the gamblers and high-rollers. The live gate is only part of the money the casino makes on a big fight. If a lot of English fans come over to Vegas to support Hatton and watch the fight, you can bet the casino will make a lot of money from the out-of-towners gambling as well.

I was worried a couple years ago that this would be another RJJ-Darius situation, but to his credit, Hatton is willing to travel and fight in the states. Now it's just a matter of negotiations and ego and greed not getting in the way.

Very good point! I think Hatton wants this fight NOW. I'm not sure if he really believe he can win, but I think he feels he is on a high right now.

I still think that fighting in Hattons back yard offers more potential to make more money but probably not as much as I thought. Either way I'd like to see this fight. I think Floyd would win pretty easily. Fighting in Manchester could be a dangerous move so Floyd proably is thinking about that heavily.

[Lampley]

And despite the fact that a whole lot more fans will show up for the fight in Manchester than Vegas, I don't know if it actually can actually outbid a Vegas casino for the site fee. The live gate is only part of the money that a casino pulls in when there's a big fight.

This is a critical point. The casinos draw indirect revenues surrounding big fights that enable them to pay very high prices and not really give a shit about the gate. I went to Vegas for Pac/Morales II, and upon arrival a few days in advance, the odds were roughly equal. By Saturday morning, Pac was a big favorite because of all the Filipino money flowing in.

Now just imagine what all the drunk ass (I'm not judging) Brits will do when they see Mayweather installed as a substantial favorite. They'll bet on the fight, hit the tables, restaurants and clubs. Vegas has so many ways to separate you from your money, a traditional stadium venue would have a great deal of difficulty competing.

And let's not forget that HBO PPV would strongly prefer that the fight happen in the United States. HBO is the primary reason Calzaghe/Kessler stands as close to happening as it does, and that involves two non-Americans who haven't spent much time on the network.

[Thom]

I still think that fighting in Hattons back yard offers more potential to make more money but probably not as much as I thought.

Dude, have you ever heard of a site fee? That's why most of the big US fights are held in those small venues in Vegas and Atlantic City instead of stadiums in other towns. 90,000 English fans would certainly make of an impressive sight, but a site fee from a major casino + U.S. domestic PPV > the live gate for the event in a British stadium + U.K. PPV gross.

[Thom]

This is a critical point. The casinos draw indirect revenues surrounding big fights that enable them to pay very high prices and not really give a shit about the gate. I went to Vegas for Pac/Morales II, and upon arrival a few days in advance, the odds were roughly equal. By Saturday morning, Pac was a big favorite because of all the Filipino money flowing in.

Now just imagine what all the drunk ass (I'm not judging) Brits will do when they see Mayweather installed as a substantial favorite. They'll bet on the fight, hit the tables, restaurants and clubs. Vegas has so many ways to separate you from your money, a traditional stadium venue would have a great deal of difficulty competing.

And let's not forget that HBO PPV would strongly prefer that the fight happen in the United States. HBO is the primary reason Calzaghe/Kessler stands as close to happening as it does, and that involves two non-Americans who haven't spent much time on the network.

Good post. :good

[Thom]

Well I've never said that Floyd was responsible for this fight not happening to date.

:roll:

No, you just claimed (falsely) that he never made any attempt to pursue the fight.

[smokey]

"Running" is legal. Holding and hitting and all the wrestling is not.

Not to try to nitpick details with you, but holding and hitting IS actually illegal. Actually turning around and running is illegal, too. However, "running" which is what I think you mean by being elusive and defensive is VERY legal. Ask Willie Pep and Pernell Whitaker.

[David UK]

Ant going to happen Floyd is in the drivers seat not Hatton and if Hattons want the fight it going to be in Vagaus ,,Floyd knows dame well that in Manchester the ref would let Hatton hug him into a UD.
Im pretty sure Floyd not down for Hugging so fight would have to be in the U.S

If that's the case it will probably not be Hatton's next fight then,but maybe the one after

[Knob McDude]

Not to try to nitpick details with you, but holding and hitting IS actually illegal. Actually turning around and running is illegal, too. However, "running" which is what I think you mean by being elusive and defensive is VERY legal. Ask Willie Pep and Pernell Whitaker.

Since when is "holding" and "hitting" legal? :huh

Maybe in Europe.

As far as I know, if you are the holder, you aren't allowed to hit.

On the other hand, what Floyd does is totally legal.

It's just that it isn't easy on the eyes sometimes.

[thunder06]

PBF UD12 Hatton.

[C Money]

damn.... that is alot of fights.

The point being made, is that the hatton camp had said they wanted 2 or 3 fights in the USA to build the fight with floyd. Since the "ofers" which came in 05, Hatton has fought Colloazo, Urango, and Castillo, so all the ISSUES should be out of the way.


60/40, let the world find out:good We dont need to hear about past offers or any more tune-ups.

[roly]

“We turned down two offers to face Mayweather last year,” Hatton said. “I think the offers would be more realistic now. But we would like Richard to have two or so fights in America before we look at Mayweather.”

what does "I think the offers would be more realistic now." tell you? that the offers made were pathetic. the hattons new that if he could have a few good fights in the US and get better known, they could get a much better offer financially, that's surely obvious to everyone. it's nothing to do with ducking.

[sonny73]

Get your facts straight asshole.

“We turned down two offers to face Mayweather last year,” Hatton said.

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Err it says the offers where in 2005..Timesonline is dated 2006

[sonny73]

Since when is "holding" and "hitting" legal? :huh

Maybe in Europe.

As far as I know, if you are the holder, you aren't allowed to hit.

On the other hand, what Floyd does is totally legal.

It's just that it isn't easy on the eyes sometimes. So is elbowing or using forearms something Mayweather likes to do.They both do things ilegal

[Knob McDude]

So is elbowing or using forearms something Mayweather likes to do.They both do things ilegal

Why are you changing the subject?

Holding and hitting are illegal, it was a clueless statement I was responding to.

Lot's of that goes on here though.

[C Money]

This is true....I'm American,and for anyone saying this possible fighht should be held in the USA is a fucking joke....

This fight would and could possibly generate 50,000 fans compared to 11,000 in the states.


Unfortunately, it's ALL ABOUT Primadonna Boy at the moment and HE ISNT GOING OVERSEAS. Now, if the money's right?? Hatton would be FOOLISH to turn down the opportunity. If Hatton beats Floyd?? Then he's in the drivers seat and could call the shots.