UFC 110: Nogueira vs. Velasquez RBR

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Opening this thread for the banter later tonight.

I'm pretty excited for this one. After a couple of lackluster cards this should be a real return to form for the UFC.

MAIN CARD


Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Cain Velasquez
Michael Bisping vs. Wanderlei Silva
George Sotiropoulos vs. Joe Stevenson
Ryan Bader vs. Keith Jardine
Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic vs. Anthony Perosh

PRELIMINARY CARD


Stephan Bonnar vs. Krzysztof Soszynski
Brian Foster vs. Chris Lytle
C.B. Dollaway vs. Goran Reljic
Igor Pokrajac vs. James Te Huna

[D-MAC]

Really looking forward to the Georgi - Stevenson fight.

But, the whole bill is stacked; a lot of high quality match-ups in there.

C'mon Big Nog!

[thejokerswild]

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That bloody psyched fellas. Not far off now.

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Bit of a bloodbath at the end there. Perosh had a lot of guts for a guy who was totally outclassed.

Not vintage Mirko, but I'm happy with it.

[Big T]

As a Cro-Cop fan, I still wish he would hang it up. The speed isn't there..and this guy shouldn't have gone that long with him. A win is a win..but still not great..

[Beebs]

Bader is pretty dominant so far.

Just stood them up from half-guard, that is absurd.

[Grievesy]

Cro Cop was dominant, but against a guy of Perosh's calibre it's no surprise. I expected Cro Cop to finish it earlier really. Something's just not there with him and he's not really enjoyable to watch anymore. He should probably retire.

[Beebs]

Damn, huge KO by Bader. He has some good power.

[One Punch KO]

Awesome finish by Darth Bader there.

[Beebs]

HOLY SHIT!

Lytle with a rolling kneebar! Shame that Foster is hurt, he looks like a spectacular prospect. Great for Lytle though, saw him a few times in Indy.

[One Punch KO]

That was a sweet finish from Chris Lytle - he could be getting submission of the night for that.

[Nuke]

Joe and George should be a decent fight.

[Lostmykeys]

Jardine is 6-6 in the octagon...

[Beebs]

Joe just about pulled mount by trying that suplex

[Grievesy]

Yeah got himself in some shit there. Sotiropoulos jumped all over him as well. Great round. Very entertaining stuff.

[jordan1]

how long before Nogueira starts

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Might be a round each. The second was close. Great fight for BJJ fans.

[sugarngold]

Sotiropoulos showed some slick jiujitsu in that fight. I'm very impressed.

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Not a single round to Stevenson, from any of the judges?

Ah well, George Sotiropoulos deserved to win on the basis of the first round.

[sugarngold]

Let's go Wanderlai!

[Tko4]

I'd love to see Bis get the Henderson treatment tonight. But Wanderlei is pretty washed up, so he might just get outworked. Either way, it should be interesting.

[Grievesy]

Can't get over how weird Wandy looks now.


Anyway, would like to see a trademark Wandy KO here. A last hurrah!

[One Punch KO]

I'm sensing a brutal KO coming up...

[jordan1]

I'd love to see Bis get the Henderson treatment tonight. But Wanderlei is pretty washed up, so he might just get outworked. Either way, it should be interesting.


Interesting like a clown !!!!
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[Big T]

Had Bris rocked at the end of the round...hmm

[Beebs]

Wanderlei comes on very strong in the last part of round 1, but might go to Bisping.

[One Punch KO]

One round to Bisping.

[Atritionist]

did anyone get rocked in that round?

[jordan1]

Not yet!!!!

[Beebs]

I think Wand would do well to take it to the ground again if he can.

[Beebs]

Probably one round each; maybe 2-0 to Wand.

[sugarngold]

I thought Wanderlai won both rounds so far. He landed the more damaging flurries and kicks.

[Tko4]

I have it 1 to 1 so far.

[Atritionist]

sounds like he def took the second (wand).

[Big T]

The Count vs The Dean of Mean anyone?? Someone would get a nice Knock out win.

[Beebs]

Pretty close; I'd give it to Wanderlei.

Edit: that was before the knockdown, that seals it.

[chimba]

win or lose Wand looks good.

[Grievesy]

Goddammit Wandy!! He should have gone after Bisping earlier. I miss the old balls to the wall Axe Murderer.

[Tko4]

If Silva doesn't win, it's robbery. I gave him two and three.

[Deckard]

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Just not the same Wanderlei to me anymore....he looks like a freak. And in a bad way.

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Gave R1 to Bisping, R2 could go either way, R3 was easily Wandy.

[nervousxtian]

Should be 3-0 for Wandy.

[Beebs]

Good decision.

[Koa]

Very impressed with Silva's stuff style.

He never was extremely fast, and his striking has slowed quite a bit imo. Hang em up with a win. Great career, one of my heroes.

[jordan1]

Should be 3-0 for Wandy.


:good:hammertime

[Tko4]

Silva would have had Bisping out way earlier if he had gone nuts like in the old days.

[Nuke]

Bis always seems scared when the punches start coming. I never liked how he keeps his head so high.

[Grievesy]

Silva would have had Bisping out way earlier if he had gone nuts like in the old days.

I agree. Bisping wouldn't have any answers for it. The final flurry proved it.

[IntentionalButt]

Good win, and deserved, but Wandy looked emaciated and slow. Move back up, companheiro.

[Koa]

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Just not the same Wanderlei to me anymore....he looks like a freak. And in a bad way.

The reconstructive surgery made his nose look different.. The dieting, he has virtually no fat on his face.. You see there is no fat around his eyes.. Unless they did some other work to his face, it looks like the dieting did that to him in part. He's just a heavily muscled guy.

[Arriba]

Bisping is a dope. You KNOW the flurry is coming in the last 20 seconds, how can you not be prepared for it? Sad. At the same time though, That was a great great moment for Wanderlei. Nothing but joy for the guy.

And while I'm here, Gotta say that George Sotiropolous really impressed me. Joe Stevenson is no joke and Stevenson is the ultimate gate keeper towards LW relevance. Can't wait to see more of Sotiropolous.

[sugarngold]

Silva would have had Bisping out way earlier if he had gone nuts like in the old days.

If this fight were contested under Pride rules - Wanderlai would have stopped Bisping at the end of the third round. He stopped himself from throwing the left head kick after Bisping fell down. He pulled the kick and switched to his punches giving Bisping a second to defend himself from his back.

[IntentionalButt]

Is Rogan juicing? Talking about Cain Velasquez has veins popping out of his neck.

[Deckard]

Is Rogan juicing? Talking about Cain Velasquez has veins popping out of his neck.

Of course he is. So are the Fertitta brothers and Dana. It's obvious.

[Arriba]

Good win, and deserved, but Wandy looked emaciated and slow. Move back up, companheiro.

All of the big punchers are at LHW. He's pretty much stuck at MW because I doubt his chin can take punches from the likes of Machida, Lil Nog, Shogun, Rashad and Rampage anymore.

At MW he can be at least competitive against guys like Bisping, Chael Sonnen, Maia and Sexyama. Just keep the dude away from Anderson Silva for the love of god.

[sugarngold]

Velazquez vs Big Nog up next!!!

Let's go Minotauro! I expect a jiujitsu clinic tonight.

[Nuke]

Cain has NO power I don't buy the hype.

[J_Roth]

I'm so proud of Wandy tonight. I wouldn't mind seeing him retire on a high note but he looked a lot better. I'm not sure where he goes from here.

[Tko4]

If this fight were contested under Pride rules - Wanderlai would have stopped Bisping at the end of the third round. He stopped himself from throwing the right head kick after Bisping fell down. He pulled the kick and switched to his punches giving Bisping a second to defend himself from his back.

Yeah, I saw a couple times when he went to throw the soccer kick and pulled back. There's no doubt he would have put that fight away kick under Pride rules.

[Arriba]

I picked Nog by old man choke but I think Cain could shock a bunch of people today. His wrestling is very good, his work rate was top notch and you never know when the dreaded "age" factor is going to poke its way into something.

I'm expecting a great fight ending with an old man choke.

[Tko4]

Cain has NO power I don't buy the hype.

But he can take guys down over and over and over...

I hope Nog can stuff the shots early, otherwise this fight could get pretty boring. Let's go Big Nog!

[J_Roth]

Yeah, I saw a couple times when he went to throw the soccer kick and pulled back. There's no doubt he would have put that fight away kick under Pride rules.
I almost wanted to see him let it go.

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Come on Big Nog.

Time for a little bit of that old PRIDE magic.

[sugarngold]

Which choke is the "old man choke?" Guillotine?

[Tko4]

I almost wanted to see him let it go.

Just take the DQ and paste The Count? I wouldn't have complained :smoke

[Arriba]

Which choke is the "old man choke?" Guillotine?

Any choke involving Nog is an old man choke :lol:

Although yes, I'm specifically referring to the guillotine. I figure Cain gets too aggressive, telegraphs a shot and Nog catches him with the Old Man guillotine.

[sugarngold]

But he can take guys down over and over and over...

I hope Nog can stuff the shots early, otherwise this fight could get pretty boring. Let's go Big Nog!


Nog is a submission master. He won't quit trying to lock in the submission until he catches Cain with something. At one time he had the most active - offensive guard in the game.

[Koa]

Velasquez has been training hard? Looks like he eats nothing but burritos. WTF is up with him?

[J_Roth]

Just take the DQ and paste The Count? I wouldn't have complained :smoke
IMHO would have been the best gif ever.

[Arriba]

To their credit, the Aussie crowd has certainly held up their end of the bargain. Very loud and supportive but not bordering on overly drunk. Here we go!

[Koa]

:(

[IntentionalButt]

What?

[Arriba]

Cain Velasquez has arrived.

[Grievesy]

Damn!!! Nog actually got stopped???? (without staph infections)

[IntentionalButt]

What?

:yikes

[KOTF]

GEE that was one helluva shot

[Beebs]

GODDAMN!

Cain with a nasty nasty nasty combo!

[J_Roth]

Fucking hell

[IntentionalButt]

Damn!!! Nog actually got stopped???? (without staph infections)

No.


He got KTFO.

[Arriba]

Junior Dos Santos is still my favorite young up and coming HW but DAMN....Velasquez just made a good case for that spot.

[jordan1]

that was fast

[chimba]

Nogs done, hes so fuckin sluggish out there

[Tko4]

Ouch.

[Beebs]

Cain has NO power I don't buy the hype.

:think

[Nuke]

I still believe it is more due to the fact that Nog is old and taken more abuse then some small countries.

[Arriba]

gee that was one helluva shot

i didn't even know it was like that!

[Koa]

Credit to Cain, his standup looked good against Nog. He showed very good movement, and good instinct to finish like he did.

But dude seriously needs to stop eating torta's and burritos. Spend some of those winnings on a dietician.

[darkaz619]

Nog is just waiting to get hit nice win by Cain Nog got no head movement what so ever.

[KOTF]

i didn't even know it was like that!

oh would you believe it!?!?!

[sugarngold]

Wow! When did Cain Velazquez start kickboxing so expertly? That was an amazing performance.

[Grievesy]

Time to pack it in for Nog.

[MexicanJew]

Its wild to think that the UFC could have a mexican HW Champion before boxing


Big fucking IF, but I'll be damned if Cain didnt look a champion tonight. Hugely improved standup, leg kicks are a new aspect to his striking he has shown before, punches were so much tighter, and in combination

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Nog got brutalised.

So much for Cain's pillow fists and Nog's iron chin.

[IntentionalButt]

Nogs done, hes so fuckin sluggish out there

Yeah, he wasn't quite out when Cain hopped his guard, in fact he was clearly in the act of bringing his arms up to defend himself and bringing his legs into defensive guard position before the hammer fists started falling...he was just....too.........slow......

[KOTF]

Fuckin Rogan, he had to remind me of that stupid statement by that Aussie commentator from that Green-Jones fight when I heard "beat a legend, you become a legend"

[Arriba]

Its wild to think that the UFC could have a mexican HW Champion before boxing


Big fucking IF, but I'll be damned if Cain didnt look a champion tonight. Hugely improved standup, punches were so much tighter, and in combination

Cain looked outstanding with insanely improved stand up. I think Cain should get the loser of Mir/Carwin to sort of move him up the ladder for a title shot. Absolutely dominating.

[IntentionalButt]

Its wild to think that the UFC could have a mexican HW Champion before boxing


Big fucking IF, but I'll be damned if Cain didnt look a champion tonight. Hugely improved standup, leg kicks are a new aspect to his striking he has shown before, punches were so much tighter, and in combination

Well maybe if Mexican HW boxing had somebody better than Crisco-Ball to offer up...oh wait, they do, but Quezada won't be champ either. :D

[Beebs]

I still believe it is more due to the fact that Nog is old and taken more abuse then some small countries.

I don't know if Cain has world beating power; but that was never really part of what you call his "hype." I don't think it's hype anymore, it is a legit package of clinical takedowns, lots of cardio, and as shown tonight solid standup technique.

[Arriba]

Well maybe if Mexican HW boxing had somebody better than Crisco-Ball to offer up...oh wait, they do, but Quezada won't be champ either. :D

Nagy Aguilera? He's....alright.

If they'd like though, as a 1/2 Puerto Rican, I'd have no problem negotiating a trade for John Ruiz if they're willing.

[Koa]

Its wild to think that the UFC could have a mexican HW Champion before boxing


Big fucking IF, but I'll be damned if Cain didnt look a champion tonight. Hugely improved standup, leg kicks are a new aspect to his striking he has shown before, punches were so much tighter, and in combination

I just don't like seeing guys over 30% bf win fights. When I think of a Champ, I think of a guy who does it 100%. EATS, Sleeps, Dreams, Trains Champion..

Cain has everything but the Eating part.

[Nuke]

I'm sorry but I think I could have looked dominate over Nog tonight. Nog looked like a statue, about as slow as I have ever seen a fighter, EVER.

[Nuke]

I just don't like seeing guys over 30% bf win fights. .


I could care less what a man looks like, sounds like you just want to see man muscle flexing around the ring. haha, sorry pal.

[Beebs]

I'm sorry but I think I could have looked dominate over Nog tonight. Nog looked like a statue, about as slow as I have ever seen a fighter, EVER.

It's not like you didn't know that Nog has slowed down significantly before tonight.

Before: Cain has no power and is all hype
Brutal first round KO
After: Nog doesn't count.

[Arriba]

I just don't like seeing guys over 30% bf win fights. When I think of a Champ, I think of a guy who does it 100%. EATS, Sleeps, Dreams, Trains Champion..

Cain has everything but the Eating part.

Cain is an accomplished amateur hamburger eating contest winner....so he's clearly a dual champion and trains accordingly :lol:

[MexicanJew]

I just don't like seeing guys over 30% bf win fights. When I think of a Champ, I think of a guy who does it 100%. EATS, Sleeps, Dreams, Trains Champion..

Cain has everything but the Eating part.

Cain is in good shape :huh


What exactly are you expecting to see, a chiseled 6 pack and 4% body fat.

The kid trains like a man possessed and is acknowledged as being on the best conditioned fighters in the sport.

[IntentionalButt]

Cain is an accomplished amateur hamburger eating contest winner....so he's clearly a dual champion and trains accordingly :lol:

And in the proud latin tradition he eats them Montado style for extra protein. :ibutt

[MexicanJew]

Cain has an edo-meso body type, he's never going to look chiseled

[Arriba]

Yeah when being pudgy starts to affect Cain's work rate, I think we can start questioning his work outs. That said the guy's like a machine out there. Just effortless motion.

[Beebs]

He might just want a bit of extra weight; he isn't a huge HW, something around 240 if I remember.

[freddy-wak]

somebody post a link

[IntentionalButt]

somebody post a link

To the event that's over? Besides, aren't you a mod here? :lol:

[IntentionalButt]

Damn do I want some bistec montado right now. :verysad

[thejokerswild]

Great card, had a good arvo with UFC today.

Aussies are going FKN mad at the pub over UFC.

George had a blinder.

[Dave_j1985]

Having a little bit of weight around the waist never hurt Fedor...

[liger05]

Now will the doubters finally accept that Noguiera is ’shot’ and is finished. Ever since the Herring fight he was done but people used the excuses of he hasnt been 100% due to infections and injuries. He cant pull the trigger anymore. His knees are gone and his so slow being an easy target to hit.

[bored]

I think it is time that Nog said goobye to MMA, he'll probably have a couple more fights but I really don't want to see another repeat of last night. If he fought Carwin after Carwin loses to Mir I could see that fight ending badly for him.

Me and my mates found it odd last night that Wanderlei had a tattoo of Mike Swick on his arm? :p

[Koa]

Cain is in good shape :huh


What exactly are you expecting to see, a chiseled 6 pack and 4% body fat.

The kid trains like a man possessed and is acknowledged as being on the best conditioned fighters in the sport.


Guess he has worked a bit of it off? I guess.. Fedor gets away with it. He does need the weight to compete with the bigger guys considering his style.

[codeman99998]

Cain is in good shape :huh


What exactly are you expecting to see, a chiseled 6 pack and 4% body fat.

The kid trains like a man possessed and is acknowledged as being on the best conditioned fighters in the sport.

Yea... you guys are talking like it's Roy Nelson or Ben Rothwell or something. Cain seems to be in great shape for all of his fights.