View Full Version : The best father and son relationship in boxing
THE KNUCKLE
02-26-2010, 06:30 PM
JST SEEN ENZO WITH PRICE ON PRIZEFIGHTER ON SKY,,MUST BE MISSING HIS SON ON THAT STOOL ALREADY,,,APART FROM THAT WHO ELSE IN WORLD BOXING AND THESE ISLES HAD A GREAT BOXING RELATIONSHIP WITH THERE FATHER......ROY JONES,MAYWEATHER,...AMERICAN ETC..ENZO CALZAGHE,SCOTT HARRISON,NICKY COOK.ETC,,BRITAIN........LETS HEAR IT LADS:deal
DSweetScientist
02-26-2010, 06:33 PM
mosely
LP_1985
02-26-2010, 06:34 PM
mark and jimmy tibbs
harvinmagler
02-26-2010, 06:35 PM
wouldnt say mayweather has a great relationship with his dad, more so with his uncle
GazOC
02-26-2010, 06:36 PM
Pat and Sean O'Grady. Dad Pat even started a sanctioning body so that Sean could be world champ. He also made his son-in-law Heavyweight champion of the world and then stripped him when the marriage ended in divorce.
THE KNUCKLE
02-26-2010, 06:36 PM
mosely
good shout ,but think nazeem richards is a better trainer
THE KNUCKLE
02-26-2010, 06:38 PM
wouldnt say mayweather has a great relationship with his dad, more so with his uncle
neither did roy jj but it was him who got it started/(father)
LP_1985
02-26-2010, 06:39 PM
Pat and Sean O'Grady. Dad Pat even started a sanctioning body so that Sean could be world champ. He also made his son-in-law Heavyweight champion of the world and then stripped him when the marriage ended in divorce.
u for real mate
Beeston Brawler
02-26-2010, 06:40 PM
I think Mosley just went stale under his father - they did have great success though together.
The masterclass by Hopkins on Pavlik surely influenced him to move to Richardson, who tends to work better with the older fighters..... damn it worked against Margarito.
I'm not sure who else Richardson works with, I'd like to see him pick up a young kid, either a debutant or a fighter coming off a bad KO loss and where that goes.
Enzo Calzaghe doesn't seem to me to be a great technical trainer. His main strengths to me lie in getting the lads fit and motivating them.... and fair play he hasn't done bad.
GazOC
02-26-2010, 06:43 PM
u for real mate
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Sean O'Grady was a decent fighter who fought Jim Watt for the world title but his Dad was a wrong 'un!!
LP_1985
02-26-2010, 06:45 PM
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Sean O'Grady was a decent fighter who fought Jim Watt for the world title but his Dad was a wrong 'un!!
:lol:im gona look into that
THE KNUCKLE
02-26-2010, 06:46 PM
u for real mate
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THE KNUCKLE
02-26-2010, 06:48 PM
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Sean O'Grady was a decent fighter who fought Jim Watt for the world title but his Dad was a wrong 'un!!
HE HEE HE HEE HE HEE HE HEE:tired:tired:tired:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy
THE KNUCKLE
02-26-2010, 07:00 PM
GUTI ESPADAS JNR AND SNR WERE THE FIRST FATHER AND SONS TO WIN WORLD BELTS.....LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY:deal:deal:deal
diagnosismurder
02-26-2010, 07:14 PM
Wilfredo Vazquez Sr. was a super bantamweight world champion and tomorrow his son Wilfredo Vazquez Jr could become WBO super bantamweight
This would make history in Puetro rico by being the first father and son to win world championship
And they both had the same promoter Tuto Zabala Jr
And Vazquez snr is also in his sons corner
Nonito Donaire father couldn't be that bad of a trainer look how his son turned out. Almost sure he dropped his father lately though
FLINT ISLAND
02-26-2010, 07:21 PM
Richie Woodall and his Dad
They trained together
And went fishing together
diagnosismurder
02-26-2010, 07:23 PM
Also there is Aaron Pryor Jr and his dad Aaron Pryor the world light welterweight champion but his kid is only domestic standard
johna_83
02-26-2010, 07:43 PM
Obviously not quite the best just yet but i like the look of Shawn Porter so far, he's trained by his father Kenny Porter. Pac's chief sparring partner for Cotto and by all accounts gave him a few problems early on in camp, currently 13-0-0 (10 ko's) as a pro
Seen him last week seems to do everything well but nothing great.
johna_83
02-26-2010, 08:04 PM
Seen him last week seems to do everything well but nothing great.
Yeah i seen him last week, easily his biggest test to date but came through it pretty comfortably.
He's been doing alot of work with Roach at the Wildcard as well so i can only see him improving. Fantastic prospect IMO
Working at Wildcard is probably the best thing he can do at the minute hopefully he lives up to his billing anyway.
NO MAS
02-27-2010, 02:49 AM
I think the Calzaghe and Woodhall Father and Son partnership have produced World Titles and results...what is there abroad that is better, please don't tell me Moseley... :think
Dan684
02-27-2010, 03:08 AM
Ricky Hatton and his father have done well for themselves. Better than Calzaghe and that impet too :good
Flea Man
02-27-2010, 03:17 AM
u for real mate
Yep 100% true
Flea Man
02-27-2010, 03:19 AM
Nonito Donaire father couldn't be that bad of a trainer look how his son turned out. Almost sure he dropped his father lately though
Yeah, trained his brother Glenn too and now trains Marvin Sonsona, who won a WBC bauble at super fly last year and is fighting TONIGHT for the WBO super bantam title against Wilfredo Vasquez Jr, coincedentally the Son of Wilfredo Vasquez!!!!
Small World, eh:yep
NO MAS
02-27-2010, 03:19 AM
Ricky Hatton and his father have done well for themselves. Better than Calzaghe and that impet too :good
Hattons Dad ain't a coach though...:think
toffeejack
02-27-2010, 04:26 AM
Ricky Hatton and his father have done well for themselves. Better than Calzaghe and that impet too :good
As individuals they've done well but as far as relationships go you can't really beat the Calzaghe one.
Hate away as much as you like but they never lost together including the amateur fights which is some feat considering Enzo taught himself the trade as well.
Dan684
02-27-2010, 04:29 AM
I know what you're both saying but the thread started never stated that it had to be a Father who coached, just the best relationship in the sport.
NO MAS
02-27-2010, 04:38 AM
I know what you're both saying but the thread started never stated that it had to be a Father who coached, just the best relationship in the sport.
That's a fair point Dan and if they all compared their last 3 bank statements I guess that Ricky and Ray would be sitting at the top...:yep
The success is gauged by the greenbacks as we can't forget that pro boxing ain't a sport, it's a brutal business...:yep
Dan684
02-27-2010, 04:43 AM
Yeah thats all I was thinking mate.
I guess deep down Joe would love to have the money that Ricky had and there was also loads and loads of rumours of him being pretty envious of the support and superstardom that Ricky/Naz achieved.
20a87
02-27-2010, 12:56 PM
tony sr and anthony mundine are still working together successfully although they had past issues, the calzaghes had the best relationship in terms of boxing success and closeness.
I think it comes down to two types of relationships you got the roy sr and floyd sr style of putting the success of boxing before their personal relationship with their child and then you have the lasting working relationships like the manfredo's and calzaghes.
thewinfella
02-27-2010, 01:20 PM
Enzo Calzaghe with virtually no boxing coaching experience trains his son up to an undefeated ATG by using pillows on his hands in the house when he was a kid .
It doesnt get a bigger fairytale than that !!!!!!!!!!!!!
xoborp
02-27-2010, 02:56 PM
Wally Swift jnr and his dad.
FLINT ISLAND
02-27-2010, 03:04 PM
Yeah thats all I was thinking mate.
I guess deep down Joe would love to have the money that Ricky had and there was also loads and loads of rumours of him being pretty envious of the support and superstardom that Ricky/Naz achieved.
Its not just romours his jealosuy was self evident.
I remeber him during a interview years ago with Ian Darke
And Ian Darke said : "Is that your Mercedes Joe"
And Joe said very bitterly : " Yeah - but I should be a Ferrari"
Ian Darke said: " You seem quite bitter Joe"
Joe said : "No not bitter at all - just feel I should be earning the big money now"
He just got jealous cos he was a World Champ but he couldnt afford the cars that Naz and Lennox Lewis had :patsch
JIM KELLY
02-27-2010, 03:17 PM
Ricky Hatton and his father have done well for themselves. Better than Calzaghe and that impet too :good
Yeah,. Ricky gets up on stage and disses the shit out his pops and mom..great relationship!!
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