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burt bienstock
02-28-2010, 03:58 PM
Name five of the hardest punching southpaws...Not necessarily the best fighters...

PowerPuncher
02-28-2010, 04:05 PM
Hamed, Moorer, Sanders, Judah, Hagler

Flea Man
02-28-2010, 04:07 PM
Hamed, Moorer, Sanders, Judah, Hagler

But no Pac? Surely Hagler and Naz count as switch hitters?

PowerPuncher
02-28-2010, 04:21 PM
But no Pac? Surely Hagler and Naz count as switch hitters?

Forgot Pac, Im sure theres more I forgot more

Duodenum
02-28-2010, 04:36 PM
Andy Ganigan (to me, the southpaw Shavers), Marvin Johnson (handed steel chinned great Galindez his first knockdown), Rolando Navarrete (nobody who saw him knock out Boza Edwards to become a champion ever forgot it), Marvin Hagler (mainly with his lethal right, not really noted as a two fisted puncher), Michael Moorer (very respectable at heavyweight, utterly nightmarish at 175, where nobody came close to lasting the distance).

janitor
02-28-2010, 04:40 PM
Jim Jeffries would have to be mentioned, but he was again a swith hitter.

Duodenum
02-28-2010, 04:57 PM
But no Pac? Surely Hagler and Naz count as switch hitters?In the case of Hagler, I can't think off hand of a single highlight knockdown or knockout he produced which was not out of the southpaw stance. He was not really noted for the power in his left, but he did drop the armored chinned Antuofermo with one in their rematch, and it was a lead left cross out of the southpaw position, not a hook from orthodox posture.

If Hagler is to be disqualified on switch hitting grounds though, I'll improvise for the moment by substituting Alan Minter's name in his place. (I've seen his knockout of Jacopucci. How many other southpaw punchers have inflicted fatal injuries on a world class opponent?)

Jorodz
02-28-2010, 05:03 PM
Andy Ganigan (to me, the southpaw Shavers), Marvin Johnson (handed steel chinned great Galindez his first knockdown), Rolando Navarrete (nobody who saw him knock out Boza Edwards to become a champion ever forgot it), Marvin Hagler (mainly with his lethal right, not really noted as a two fisted puncher), Michael Moorer (very respectable at heavyweight, utterly nightmarish at 175, where nobody came close to lasting the distance).

good shout out to gannigan:good i'll throw in irish bob murphy, who managed a TKO win over Lamotta

Jorodz
02-28-2010, 05:05 PM
jose luis ramirez was a pretty decent banger. southpaw to yeah?

Russell
02-28-2010, 05:09 PM
Andy Ganigan (to me, the southpaw Shavers), Marvin Johnson (handed steel chinned great Galindez his first knockdown), Rolando Navarrete (nobody who saw him knock out Boza Edwards to become a champion ever forgot it), Marvin Hagler (mainly with his lethal right, not really noted as a two fisted puncher), Michael Moorer (very respectable at heavyweight, utterly nightmarish at 175, where nobody came close to lasting the distance).

You feel that Ganigan truly hit that hard? Not disagreeing but thats a pretty serious compliment of Andys punching power.

Was he really Pacquiao before there was Pacquiao? ;)

Also, have you ever seen Navarrete/Limon?

It reminded me of a Friday the 13th movie. Limon eating absolutely everything Navarrete threw and just walking him down, round after round after round.

Russell
02-28-2010, 05:09 PM
jose luis ramirez was a pretty decent banger. southpaw to yeah?

His KO ratio is misleading if you ask me. :think

Jorodz
02-28-2010, 05:11 PM
You feel that Ganigan truly hit that hard? Not disagreeing but thats a pretty serious compliment of Andys punching power.

Was he really Pacquiao before there was Pacquiao? ;)

Also, have you ever seen Navarrete/Limon?

It reminded me of a Friday the 13th movie. Limon eating absolutely everything Navarrete threw and just walking him down, round after round after round.

ganigan's destruction of o'grady was terribly impressive but arguello completely dissected him. great power but not elite skills

Jorodz
02-28-2010, 05:12 PM
His KO ratio is misleading if you ask me. :think

true. his right hook was good. heavy but not exactly devastating

mcvey
02-28-2010, 05:12 PM
Name five of the hardest punching southpaws...Not necessarily the best fighters...


George Ko Chaney !!!!!

Russell
02-28-2010, 05:13 PM
true. his right hook was good. heavy but not exactly devastating

"Tijuana Cab Driver" syndrome obviously. ;) :lol:

Jorodz
02-28-2010, 05:16 PM
"Tijuana Cab Driver" syndrome obviously. ;) :lol:

haugen?:tong

Jorodz
02-28-2010, 05:19 PM
George Ko Chaney !!!!!

bastard! that's great one

Flea Man
02-28-2010, 05:20 PM
Ramirez dropped Arguello though. Good fight as well, I actually scored it in favour of Ramirez.

Jorodz
02-28-2010, 05:24 PM
Ramirez dropped Arguello though. Good fight as well, I actually scored it in favour of Ramirez.

i always saw him as having a heavy right hook, rather than a precise, descructive one. just kept throwing it until it did the trick. either way, good call on the arguello fight and ramirez certainly belongs in the discussion

burt bienstock
02-28-2010, 05:35 PM
Geoge Ko Chaney
charley White
Lew Tendler
Lou Brouilliard,Bull/against Fullmer, Oh my...
Irish Bob Murphy heavy hitting brawler vs Mathew Saad? run for the hills....WoW..
Michael Moorer as a lightheavyweight....All hard hitting southpaws...

Duodenum
02-28-2010, 07:33 PM
You feel that Ganigan truly hit that hard? Not disagreeing but thats a pretty serious compliment of Andy's punching power.Andy was mainly noted for his straight left, but after warring with Arguello, Alexis repeatedly mentioned the deadly right hook to his body which set up Ganigan's knockdown of him. (Arguello was so confused by his style that he kept referring to this body shot as a "left hook," but the message was clear. Andy was a two handed bomber.) I didn't see anybody buckle Alex's knees the way Ganigan did before Pryor finally got him late in Miami.

O'Grady was never noted for his defense, and he'd only been dropped once, immediately getting up to knock that opponent out with a combination in the very same round. (This event is not currently recorded as yet on :pissboxWRECK, but Sean's then ESPN colleague Sal Marciano described it on the air in detail around 1980 during one of his bouts. Why the hell don't the people who compile this information contact O'Grady for help in compiling his record and career information?:huh While they're at it, they might also find out who the hapless opponent was whose face Sean blew and popped a wad of gum in during a pre fight stare down, psychologically ruining the poor victim and earning O'Grady his soubriquet.)

Anyhow, Sean had acquired a reputation for being able to take a punch. Ganigan dropped him thrice, all with his straight left, triggering an automatic stoppage by flooring him with a final one to the body. This was a sensational upset, as O'Grady hadn't truly been exposed as vulnerable.Was he really Pacquiao before there was Pacquiao? ;)Interesting thought. No question who's greater of course, but the thread asks which ones punch hardest, not who the greatest is.Also, have you ever seen Navarrete/Limon?Arguello cleaned out the division first, then left it behind, laying the foundation for a golden age at 130 in the process. (So much of his greatness lies in how much better he made so many opponents for having challenged him.)

Limon/Navarrete was yet another spectacular title fight in Arguello's wake. I'd seen Navarrete upset Boza Edwards on the first match I'd ever viewed on a then newfangled big screen three color projection television (in a mall where I happened to be shopping at the time), and I expected Corny to repeat what Alexis had done to Rolando. It was stunning to see how it ended, as American fans did not yet realize Navarrete could punch like that.

While I had a notion of Limon as a bleeder (and for that matter, the image of nearly everybody who faced Arguello with Reyes gloves as a potential Wepner), I also knew he could take a punch. Still, I was riveted to the screen to watch them square off. To me, Rafael Limon had a fine chin, but also limited power despite his nickname. The question was whether or not he could manage an attrition stoppage before punching himself out.

Bazooka pulled it off, and was immediately acclaimed by even non sports fans as a great champion, a reputation reinforced when he got back to his feet in the final round of Chacon IV. (Even the female news anchor, not a sportscaster, lauded Limon's championship qualities during the nightly broadcast my father watched following these matches. Imagine something like that happening on the nightly news today!)It reminded me of a Friday the 13th movie. Limon eating absolutely everything Navarrete threw and just walking him down, round after round after round.That's a quality analogy. I did not dream that Navarrete would actually avenge this defeat six and a half years later in Manila, dropping Limon in the process.

Limon, Boza Edwards, Navarrete and Chacon sure made watching the WBC super featherweight championship merry-go-round fun to follow. (Poor Sammy Serrano and Roger Mayweather. Hardly anybody cared about the WBA version of the title. Escalera, Arguello, Limon, Boza Edwards, Navarrete, Chacon, Camacho and Chavez just seemed to monopolize attention for the WBC's version of the title for an eternity.)

anarci
03-01-2010, 01:53 AM
true. his right hook was good. heavy but not exactly devastating I disagree i think Ramirez was a big puncher.

Think Michael Moorer at Light Heavyweight was a big time bomber.

anarci
03-01-2010, 01:54 AM
Ramirez dropped Arguello though. Good fight as well, I actually scored it in favour of Ramirez.Your not the only one so do alot of people.

mcvey
03-01-2010, 06:10 AM
Geoge Ko Chaney
charley White
Lew Tendler
Lou Brouilliard,Bull/against Fullmer, Oh my...
Irish Bob Murphy heavy hitting brawler vs Mathew Saad? run for the hills....WoW..
Michael Moorer as a lightheavyweight....All hard hitting southpaws...

I thought of Tendler ,but decided others would too.
Murphy is a good shout.
Charley White, the great left hooker was orthodox.

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WhataRock
03-01-2010, 06:25 AM
Galaxy deserves a shout.

Flea Man
03-01-2010, 06:54 AM
Galaxy deserves a shout.

Khaokor was a better puncher though:yep

GPater11093
03-01-2010, 11:44 AM
Ramirez dropped Arguello though. Good fight as well, I actually scored it in favour of Ramirez.

I had it solidly to Arguello, thought he was controlling the fight with clean punching and ring generalship. The KD just made the fight close.

Khaokor was a better puncher though:yep

Khaosai really was an amazing puncher his left hand was an awesome punch. He threw his left better than any of Khaokers IMO

Nay_Sayer
03-01-2010, 11:47 AM
But no Pac? Surely Hagler and Naz count as switch hitters?
I think Naz had more power in the orthodox stance...