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EpsilonAxis
10-06-2007, 10:07 AM
That would be a hell of an accomplishment.

I already consider him and Morales to be right next to each other, somewhere around 3-5.

But this would be quite an accomplishment, to avenge his loss against the pfp#2 (or #1 if you feel that way) guy on the planet.
compukiller
10-06-2007, 11:09 AM
No. MAB, even if he gets a shady GBP decision, would not be fit to carry a vial of sweat that dripped off of the testicles of JC Superstar.

But if MAB was still with Top Rank, he'd be a savior to boxing and a saint to Mexico, right?
compukiller
10-06-2007, 11:52 AM
He'd be a hell of a lot richer, and wouldnt have to drive Schaefer to those GBP meetings.

Yeah, because we all know Arum is a square dealing fellow, who NEVER gets into any shady business dealings. Those federal corruption probes were just playa hatin'. :-(
pipe wrenched
10-06-2007, 11:58 AM
Who am I to say, but it shure as hell wouldn't hurt his standings.
Danny Ocean
10-06-2007, 12:02 PM
he might not be best of all time but he will have pulled off the greatest comeback
bulakenyo
10-06-2007, 01:04 PM
I respect MAB as a top level fighter.

But I respect Morales more as a gallant, clean fighter and as a person.

MAB giving his opponents headbutts, elbows and borderline lowblows isnt cool.

Morales may be an arrogant jackass in the ring, but at least he doesnt commit cheap shots against his opponent. Only pure competitive fistfighting.

But I gotta say, Marco's left hooks to the head and body are beautiful, elegant and dangerous all at once.
PATSYS
10-06-2007, 01:10 PM
No. MAB, even if he gets a shady GBP decision, would not be fit to carry a vial of sweat that dripped off of the testicles of JC Superstar.

THe only edge JC has over Barrera right now is that he has beaten about 2X more bums in his career.
quintonjacksonfan
10-06-2007, 01:53 PM
Chavez also never lost in his prime like Mab did twice against Junior Jones
Shake
10-06-2007, 02:51 PM
He can't touch Julio Cesar Chavez. And he's one of my favorites, too.
The Funny Man 7
10-06-2007, 02:57 PM
Not Number 1, but darn close. Aside from JCC and maybe Sal Sanchez, I don't see anyone ranked ahead of him. I've always regarded Zarate as slightly overrated, and Olivares' prime was just too short to be considered at the very highest level. If he wins decisively, it might rank as the greatest ever win by a Mexican fighter though.
bachatu
10-06-2007, 02:59 PM
A win over Pac and rematch & win against Juan Manuel Marquez would seal his legacy, but hard to say if put him on greatest mexican ever.
The Funny Man 7
10-06-2007, 03:08 PM
Forgot about Miguel Canto. I'd say a win would put him just ahead of Canto.
brooklyn1550
10-06-2007, 03:10 PM
I would put him in the top 3 - perhaps above Salvador Sanchez.
Drew101
10-06-2007, 03:11 PM
It probably moves him into my Top 3.
Fedor Em
10-06-2007, 03:12 PM
#3 right behind Sanchez and Chavez
jopez707
10-06-2007, 03:20 PM
definitely top 3, maybe top 2....Salvador Sanchez was pretty brilliant in his tragically short career. I would put Barrera over JCC if he beats Pacquiao.
El Bombasto
10-06-2007, 03:48 PM
That would be a hell of an accomplishment.

I already consider him and Morales to be right next to each other, somewhere around 3-5.

But this would be quite an accomplishment, to avenge his loss against the pfp#2 (or #1 if you feel that way) guy on the planet.

uh nope, i think jcc has that locked down for now
Brickhaus
10-06-2007, 04:11 PM
Not Number 1, but darn close. Aside from JCC and maybe Sal Sanchez, I don't see anyone ranked ahead of him. I've always regarded Zarate as slightly overrated, and Olivares' prime was just too short to be considered at the very highest level. If he wins decisively, it might rank as the greatest ever win by a Mexican fighter though.
Finito Lopez also, IMHO. Probably 2nd, behind only JCC. I'd put him ahead of Sanchez.
Zakman
10-06-2007, 05:18 PM
Yes, I would say it would. As can be seen is this thread, there would still be debate about him and Chavez - but it would certainly confirm what many of us already believe, which he is the best Mexican fighter since Chavez.
Asterion
10-06-2007, 05:39 PM
2nd or 3rd
Jinx
10-06-2007, 06:13 PM
if MAB pulls this off he'd be right behind Chavez on my list of great Mexican fighters...
TBooze
10-06-2007, 06:19 PM
Top 10 Mexicans

10 Erik Morales
9 Vicente Saldivar
8 Lupe Pintor
7 Salvador Sanchez
6 Marco Antonio Barrera
5 Jose Napoles (Adopted Mexico as his own country; Cuban by birth)
4 Ricardo Lopez
3 Ruben Olivares
2 Carlos Zarate
1 Julio Cesar Chavez

Mentions to: Humberto Gonzales, Miguel Canto, Rodolfo Martinez, Alfonso Zamora, Daniel Zaragoza, Joe Rivers, Baby Arizmendi, Chalky Wright, Manuel Medina, Rafael Limon, Jose Luis Ramirez and Jose Luis Castillo.

A win over Paciquao may in due course take him past Napoles, but not at the moment.
acb
10-06-2007, 07:08 PM
No. MAB, even if he gets a shady GBP decision, would not be fit to carry a vial of sweat that dripped off of the testicles of JC Superstar.

Then JP you are to Barrera what Barrera is to Chavez. :deal :good
vegasdude
10-06-2007, 07:16 PM
He can't touch Julio Cesar Chavez. And he's one of my favorites, too.

He can't touch ODLH!
hmi
10-06-2007, 07:34 PM
He can't touch ODLH!
In terms of money generated...
cuchulain
10-06-2007, 07:48 PM
No.

Chavez has that honour, for now.