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"I want to shoot down Braehmer by the end of 2011," stormed Bellew.
"If I get him it will be like Dambusters all over again.
"I'm just like a Lancaster Bomber, I'm a classic fighter like the old days - just like John Conteh. Braehmer will get well and truly blown out of the water.
"It would be a great shoot out because Braehmer's got a fantastic KO record and looks like a decent puncher.
"But I want to test myself against the best and Braehmer's would be a great test."
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Flea Man
03-01-2010, 12:23 PM
Quality! Braehmer is top notch and a serious banger.
kosaros
03-01-2010, 12:23 PM
That would be a great fight late next year :yep
Dan684
03-01-2010, 12:24 PM
Braehmer knocked out Mario Veit in 4, Calzaghe only managed it in 6. Bomber beats Braehmer he already shits on Calzaghe :deal
Yes it would. It could be a FOTY contender.
ollyc
03-01-2010, 12:25 PM
Would love to see Bellew smash that scumbag.
Unfortunately he's going to jail.
ollyc
03-01-2010, 12:26 PM
Braehmer knocked out Mario Veit in 4, Calzaghe only managed it in 6. Bomber beats Braehmer he already shits on Calzaghe :deal
Calzaghe also stopped him inside a round.
Dan684
03-01-2010, 12:29 PM
Oh yeah shit hasn't he got 16 months for assault ? I think it may have been suspended or he has put it off due to his fight in April ??
robpalmer135
03-01-2010, 12:30 PM
Listen I like Bellew and he is a good fighter, i think he will get to world level, and he is a great poster but he hasnt faced anybody close to domestic level yet so
calling out Cleverly and Braehmer is getting a bit boring and its getting to cocky. beat some decent guys, and then he can start talking about Cleverly and world titles because he is a million miles away from Braehmer at the moment.
even in his next fight for the Commonwealth is agaisnt a bit of a joke opponent. afrobum the term most would use.
if Liam Walsh or Stephen Smith started calling out the world and european champions in there weight they would get laughed at, and in reality Tony is at the same level as them, top prospects that have not faced anyone of note yet.
Flea Man
03-01-2010, 12:31 PM
bELLEW IS ALSO 27 WITH GOOD AMATEUR PEDIGREE (oops caps)
As I always say, Sung Kil Moon and Jeff Fenech won a World title within tenf ights. Pushing forward early is not unheard of and not unattainable.
Dan684
03-01-2010, 12:36 PM
Rob.
He's 27 and everyone of note in the UK has refused to fight him. When he wins the belt next month and that doesn't turn out to be an incentive for other lads to want a shot, what else do you expect him to do. If he cannot get decent fights on the domestic scene then why can't he go straight onto the world scene - I don't see why if him and Arnie think he is ready for these kinda chances he shouldn't go for it. Braemer isn't fucking fantastic by any means.
Exactly he's 27 and should be pushing on with his career. If he can't get the domestic fighters in with him then he should look beyond them.
Flea Man
03-01-2010, 01:03 PM
Exactly. Which if the best domestic fighters did Khan face before having a World title?
I'd prefer Bellew to get rid of the useless filler and step it up. He wants to, let him prove himself. People moan when fighters get to 30-0 without fighting anyone of note, and yet when a fighter expresses a desire to step it up he's derided.
robpalmer135
03-01-2010, 03:15 PM
Rob.
He's 27 and everyone of note in the UK has refused to fight him. When he wins the belt next month and that doesn't turn out to be an incentive for other lads to want a shot, what else do you expect him to do. If he cannot get decent fights on the domestic scene then why can't he go straight onto the world scene - I don't see why if him and Arnie think he is ready for these kinda chances he shouldn't go for it. Braemer isn't fucking fantastic by any means.
if you think Bellew would beat Braemer if they had a fight next month your insane.
get some people over from the states. they wont know who the fuck he is and will come over for a decent pay.
NO MAS
03-01-2010, 03:26 PM
Tony Bellew will smash him up...:bbb :bbb
I respect everything that Cleverley has won and acheived but he will get KO'd too by Tony when the first decent shots land...:yep
Dan684
03-01-2010, 03:28 PM
He's not gonna be fighting him next month is he, he has a fight :good
Braemer really isn't stand out mate at all. There's nothing to suggest that a. we have seen the best from Bellew and b. there's obviousl flaws to be exploited.
I doubt very much they are targeting Braemer for his next fight, merely just getting his name into the mix as doing in the UK has thus far proved pointless. Even if he did fight Braemer next, i'm not saying he would defo win but I can't see why us thinking he could would be insane ?? He was a tremendous amateur at a higher weight and like I said before he's 27 and there is nothing that suggest he wont go far.
There is definitely a reason why virtually nobody in the Uk will fight him and it isn't money pal. 1 particular fighter was offered more to face Bellew in a non title fight than he took for fighting Cleverley in a double domestic fight ?? Can't see any sense in that can you?
robpalmer135
03-01-2010, 03:41 PM
He's not gonna be fighting him next month is he, he has a fight :good
Braemer really isn't stand out mate at all. There's nothing to suggest that a. we have seen the best from Bellew and b. there's obviousl flaws to be exploited.
I doubt very much they are targeting Braemer for his next fight, merely just getting his name into the mix as doing in the UK has thus far proved pointless. Even if he did fight Braemer next, i'm not saying he would defo win but I can't see why us thinking he could would be insane ?? He was a tremendous amateur at a higher weight and like I said before he's 27 and there is nothing that suggest he wont go far.
There is definitely a reason why virtually nobody in the Uk will fight him and it isn't money pal. 1 particular fighter was offered more to face Bellew in a non title fight than he took for fighting Cleverley in a double domestic fight ?? Can't see any sense in that can you?
and Bellew doesnt have flaws??? he hasnt faced anyone on the fringe of domestic level so we have no clue how good he is.
Braemer has only two losses and thats to guys who our fringe world class in Garay and Veit. he went 12 rounds with both. He has 28 KO's in 35 wins so he is clearly a huge puncher. He has been fighting a better level of opposition than anyone Bellew has faced for 8 years. Bellew has never been beyond 4 rounds, Braemer has had over 10 12 round fights.
to think Bellew would win this fight is completely ridiculous and INSANE.
If Braemer is that bad, he wont be champion in a years time, so why even talk about it.
If Bellew wants tough tests get some americans over. Yusuff Mack, Byron Mitchell, Jeff Lacy, Joey Spina would all be tests and if Bellew is as good as he and others claim he would walk through them.
it might not be his fault but he shouldnt be calling out world champion when he has done nothing but beat journeyman for 2 1/2 years since turning over.
Dan684
03-01-2010, 03:46 PM
Like I said, i'm not saying he doesn't potentially have flaws, but like you alluded to regardless of the oppostion the flaws haven't been highlighted, so until they are you cannot say either way :good
And on a similiar point if he keeps knocking people out as he moves up in class will there still be the point of discussion as in "He hasn't gone past 4 rounds...." "He hasn't gone past 6 rounds....." - It isn't his fault that the fights haven't lasted. And for the record mate his last fight went 6 (Ableit because of a slight injury) :good
Also I believe your being a little unfair with regards to Velecky :good A very worthwile opponent. Not Tony's fault that he was iced in 1 :yep
BrummyLad
03-01-2010, 04:37 PM
Braehmer knocked out Mario Veit in 4, Calzaghe only managed it in 6. Bomber beats Braehmer he already shits on Calzaghe :deal
Love how you conveniently forgot about the ko1 calzaghe inflicted upon veit. Love your spin mate, you should work for the labour mate. I can see you and mandleson together, :-(
Dan684
03-01-2010, 05:05 PM
Love how you conveniently forgot about the ko1 calzaghe inflicted upon veit. Love your spin mate, you should work for the labour mate. I can see you and mandleson together, :-(
Good point about the Calzaghe KO1 :good
Tell me, what was the rematch in aid of again ????
Grant1
03-02-2010, 04:30 AM
Braehmer knocked out Mario Veit in 4, Calzaghe only managed it in 6. Bomber beats Braehmer he already shits on Calzaghe :deal
Calzaghe banged Veit out in less than a minute first fight.
Veit beat Braehmer.
Your hate blinds you.
robpalmer135
03-02-2010, 04:36 AM
also Dan if Braemer is so shit, how can Bellew beating him make him a better fighter than Calzaghe who was world champion for 10 years and has 7-8 big names on hos record?
Dan684
03-02-2010, 06:11 AM
Calzaghe banged Veit out in less than a minute first fight.
Veit beat Braehmer.
Your hate blinds you.
also Dan if Braemer is so shit, how can Bellew beating him make him a better fighter than Calzaghe who was world champion for 10 years and has 7-8 big names on hos record?
Get a grip boys. If you took my comments out of anything other than tong in cheek you both have problems.
And Grant yes he did, why was he then the only rematch Calzaghe ever took part in ? - Answers on the Choi thread lets not spoil this one :good
Grant1
03-02-2010, 06:49 AM
And Grant yes he did, why was he then the only rematch Calzaghe ever took part in ? - Answers on the Choi thread lets not spoil this one :good
Veit was his mando, he'd strung 15 wins together since his fight with Calzaghe.
He'd still only lost the one fight out of 40-odd.
Still shit though I agree.
robpalmer135
03-02-2010, 06:58 AM
Get a grip boys. If you took my comments out of anything other than tong in cheek you both have problems.
And Grant yes he did, why was he then the only rematch Calzaghe ever took part in ? - Answers on the Choi thread lets not spoil this one :good
you cant sense sarcasam when you type.
Dan684
03-02-2010, 07:00 AM
Fair enough however you seem to want to pick holes in any arguments for a fighter who posts on here or a boxer who's coach posts on here regularly purely out of a need to stand out and not be known to 'ass-kiss' them because they are on here :good
So I can't tell what your genuine opinions are with regards to such fights :good (not just on this occasion)
robpalmer135
03-02-2010, 07:52 AM
Fair enough however you seem to want to pick holes in any arguments for a fighter who posts on here or a boxer who's coach posts on here regularly purely out of a need to stand out and not be known to 'ass-kiss' them because they are on here :good
So I can't tell what your genuine opinions are with regards to such fights :good (not just on this occasion)
wrong actually. I have never said anything negative about Bellew until this thread.
i have said on many occasions the Bellew, Gavin, Ashley Sexton (all ESB posters) are in my top 5 prospects along with Groves and Stephen Smith and will get to at least euro level.
Infact i didnt rate Gavin until he posted on here and i started watching him a bit more closley.
The Billy Nelson/Willie Limmond thing. I was standing up for what I beleive in with the WBU and allot of people on here completley bottled it and started kissing ass. I may have gone over board but thats only becuase others refused to voice the same opinion they would have for a non ESB poster.
Billy comes on here and only posts about his own fighters and says they would take any fight and beat anybody, and that never gets backed up. the 2nd you give an opinion he doesnt like he goes off on one. thats why we dont get on.
Flea Man
03-02-2010, 08:14 AM
wrong actually. I have never said anything negative about Bellew until this thread.
i have said on many occasions the Bellew, Gavin, Ashley Sexton (all ESB posters) are in my top 5 prospects along with Groves and Stephen Smith and will get to at least euro level.
Infact i didnt rate Gavin until he posted on here and i started watching him a bit more closley.
The Billy Nelson/Willie Limmond thing. I was standing up for what I beleive in with the WBU and allot of people on here completley bottled it and started kissing ass. I may have gone over board but thats only becuase others refused to voice the same opinion they would have for a non ESB poster.
Billy comes on here and only posts about his own fighters and says they would take any fight and beat anybody, and that never gets backed up. the 2nd you give an opinion he doesnt like he goes off on one. thats why we dont get on.
Agreed:good
Dan684
03-02-2010, 08:53 AM
:lol:
Your just fucking rude Rob :rofl
WATERBOY
03-02-2010, 12:19 PM
billy doesn't only talk about his own fighters he comments on a few and is a big fan of bellew!
robpalmer135
03-02-2010, 12:54 PM
billy doesn't only talk about his own fighters he comments on a few and is a big fan of bellew!
if you can put links to 10 posts where Billy Nelson comments on a thread about a fighter he doesnt work with i will have a Ricky Burns aviator until his world title fight??
Dan684
03-02-2010, 12:56 PM
You are fucked there Rob. He's already made about 3 in a thread today about El Maachi's opponent Badru:lol:
Good point about the Calzaghe KO1 :good
Tell me, what was the rematch in aid of again ????
Money.
It was on Veits turf. Calzaghe cleaned up on the purse!
You are fucked there Rob. He's already made about 3 in a thread today about El Maachi's opponent Badru:lol:
Actually to be fair he said that Badru was one of the hardest punchers he had ever had on the pads!
That suggests he worked with him so I don't think that qualifies.
Dan684
03-02-2010, 01:17 PM
Yeah but he said Works with, most trainers will take lads who visit the gym for a couple of rounds on the pads. Helps botht the fighter and the trainer come along :good
Even without those 3 posts I reckon I could find 10 easily, just to give Rob the avatar
Yeah but he said Works with, most trainers will take lads who visit the gym for a couple of rounds on the pads. Helps botht the fighter and the trainer come along :good
Even without those 3 posts I reckon I could find 10 easily, just to give Rob the avatar
I'm not taking sides.
Go for it!!!
Grant1
03-02-2010, 02:28 PM
Yeah but he said Works with, most trainers will take lads who visit the gym for a couple of rounds on the pads. Helps botht the fighter and the trainer come along :good
Even without those 3 posts I reckon I could find 10 easily, just to give Rob the avatar
I believe in you Daniel son.
richard mossley
03-02-2010, 05:37 PM
2010 is a crossroads year for Bellew, he can not be at the end of Year blowing bums out in 1 rd as he finished this year and Tony, Jindrich Velecky is not an impressive name to have on your record.
After fighting Jindrich, we have another bum in Martial Bella Oleme who had won one of his previous nine fights! Thats a joke fight Bellew!
When you look through Tonys record he has not really fought a single decent Light Heavyweight Boxer.
robpalmer135
03-03-2010, 03:02 AM
follow up posts dont count. needs to be the first comment from a thread thats not about his fighter. el macchi is 1.
Tony Bellew
03-03-2010, 05:08 AM
Thanks for the comments guys, This is just a press release, I don't have any say in what's been released to be honest, I ain't calling out Brahmer that's for sure!! If I was offered the fight I'd jump at it BUT look at realisticly, I ain't boxed no one of real note yet!! Not my fault like they just keep pulling out, I know how Peter Oboh felt now..:roll:
I respect Brahmer and wouldn't be calling out champions like him at all!! This is just hype stuff from my promotional team!! Believe me when the big fights are finally made I'll be victorious and I'll be thanking you all for your support, It will happen for me in the end of that I am very sure!! With Frank and Arnie I can't see how I could possibly fail!!
Once again guys thank you for your support I really appreciate, Gotta go as Im off to the gym for me 2nd session of the day..:good
Grant1
03-03-2010, 05:16 AM
Thanks for the comments guys, This is just a press release, I don't have any say in what's been released to be honest, I ain't calling out Brahmer that's for sure!! If I was offered the fight I'd jump at it BUT look at realisticly, I ain't boxed no one of real note yet!! Not my fault like they just keep pulling out, I know how Peter Oboh felt now..:roll:
I respect Brahmer and wouldn't be calling out champions like him at all!! This is just hype stuff from my promotional team!! Believe me when the big fights are finally made I'll be victorious and I'll be thanking you all for your support, It will happen for me in the end of that I am very sure!! With Frank and Arnie I can't see how I could possibly fail!!
Once again guys thank you for your support I really appreciate, Gotta go as Im off to the gym for me 2nd session of the day..:good
Nice one Tony, thanks for the inside take :good
Sometimes fans on here forget what really goes on, and make their mind up about a fighter based on these press releases that in truth have never come out of the fighters mouth.
Have a good session.
Thanks for the comments guys, This is just a press release, I don't have any say in what's been released to be honest, I ain't calling out Brahmer that's for sure!! If I was offered the fight I'd jump at it BUT look at realisticly, I ain't boxed no one of real note yet!! Not my fault like they just keep pulling out, I know how Peter Oboh felt now..:roll:
I respect Brahmer and wouldn't be calling out champions like him at all!! This is just hype stuff from my promotional team!! Believe me when the big fights are finally made I'll be victorious and I'll be thanking you all for your support, It will happen for me in the end of that I am very sure!! With Frank and Arnie I can't see how I could possibly fail!!
Once again guys thank you for your support I really appreciate, Gotta go as Im off to the gym for me 2nd session of the day..:good
Thanks for posting Tony. It's what makes ESB great that we get the Pro's on.
Keep up the hard work. There's no shortcut to greatness. Just plain and simple hard work!!!
Flea Man
03-03-2010, 06:21 AM
Bellew=Legend
donno
03-03-2010, 07:08 AM
Tony,
You any idea what order the 3 main fights are going to in on the 12th and what time approx your on? Im going the arena like, but do you know if you will be live on sky, or will it just be the smigga-doddo and kell Brook fights?
Cheers
Tony Bellew
03-03-2010, 12:23 PM
Tony,
You any idea what order the 3 main fights are going to in on the 12th and what time approx your on? Im going the arena like, but do you know if you will be live on sky, or will it just be the smigga-doddo and kell Brook fights?
Cheers
Not too sure pal?? I usually find out at the weigh in or the day before BUT if I hear it any sooner then I'll keep you all informed, It's at the discretion of sky to show who they show once they've purchased the show from the promoter..:good
robpalmer135
03-03-2010, 12:46 PM
is it gonna be a 3 hour sky show??
Tony Bellew
03-03-2010, 12:52 PM
is it gonna be a 3 hour sky show??
Not sure pal?? I doubt it though?? I think there only 3 hour ones on a Saturday night bill??
Thanks for the comments guys, This is just a press release, I don't have any say in what's been released to be honest, I ain't calling out Brahmer that's for sure!! If I was offered the fight I'd jump at it BUT look at realisticly, I ain't boxed no one of real note yet!! Not my fault like they just keep pulling out, I know how Peter Oboh felt now..:roll:
I respect Brahmer and wouldn't be calling out champions like him at all!! This is just hype stuff from my promotional team!! Believe me when the big fights are finally made I'll be victorious and I'll be thanking you all for your support, It will happen for me in the end of that I am very sure!! With Frank and Arnie I can't see how I could possibly fail!!
Once again guys thank you for your support I really appreciate, Gotta go as Im off to the gym for me 2nd session of the day..:good
so you don't want to smash Braehmer?? ;)
Tony Bellew
03-03-2010, 01:25 PM
so you don't want to smash Braehmer?? ;)
It's a while till Im at his level mate if Im being honest.. I'd love to fight somw of the guys he's fought though to get a gage of where I am..;)
scouse red man
03-03-2010, 01:48 PM
It's a while till Im at his level mate if Im being honest.. I'd love to fight somw of the guys he's fought though to get a gage of where I am..;)
You know what, Tony. All the best of luck in the world mate. I believe that when your team actually manage to get you more meaningful fights, in which you CAN gauge your own position, you will find you are a lot closer to these guys than you think. You just need the platform to prove. Bring that Commonwealth title home. That will do for starters. :good
hit me HARDER
03-03-2010, 01:51 PM
Calzaghe banged Veit out in less than a minute first fight.
Veit beat Braehmer.
Your hate blinds you.
Poor Dan, he does get muddled somewhat.
He'll be championing Richard Dunne for the England Captaincy next.
Oh wait...
;)
Tony Bellew
03-03-2010, 04:25 PM
You know what, Tony. All the best of luck in the world mate. I believe that when your team actually manage to get you more meaningful fights, in which you CAN gauge your own position, you will find you are a lot closer to these guys than you think. You just need the platform to prove. Bring that Commonwealth title home. That will do for starters. :good
Thanks mate..;)
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