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Geraldo R.
10-06-2007, 11:11 AM
Let’s get ready to rematch
Taylor eager to face Pavlik again after getting KO’d

BY CHRIS GIVENS ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. — Jermain Taylor has not seen the last of Kelly Pavlik.

Whether that is a good thing for Little Rock’s Taylor is a question that will be debated from now until the contractually obligated rematch takes place.

No one from either camp is debating, however, the fact that Taylor and Pavlik put on one of the best middleweight fights in recent memory.

Pavlik knocked out Taylor with a devastating flurry of punches in the corner in the seventh round of their middleweight championship fight Saturday night at Boardwalk Hall.

This sudden and explosive end to Taylor’s middleweight reign came after Taylor, who had never been knocked down as a pro, floored Pavlik with a powerful combination of his own in the second round.

Fast-paced and action-packed rounds of boxing took place between the knockdowns, giving 10,127 people at Boardwalk Hall and a national HBO audience their money’s worth. It was the kind of fight that had boxing fans cheering, regardless of which fighter they favored.

Bob Arum, Pavlik’s promoter, and Emanuel Steward, Taylor’s trainer, have more than 80 years of combined boxing experience between them. Both were involved in the legendary Thomas Hearns-Marvin Hagler middleweight title fight in 1985, which is the standard-bearer for judging any great middleweight fight.

“This is one of the best middleweight fights I’ve ever seen,” Arum said. “It runs second to Hagler-Hearns, but other than that, I can’t think of a better middleweight fight.”

“Jermain prepared well, Kelly prepared well, and they gave us a tremendous, great fight,” Steward said. “That’s one of the greatest fights I’ve ever seen. To be a great fighter you have to have great heart, like Ali, Frazier, Hearns, Hagler, and both Jermain and Kelly showed that heart.”

The good news for boxing fans is that heart will be on display again — the question is not if Taylor and Pavlik will rematch, but when.

There was a rematch clause written into the contract, and Arum said that if Taylor demands an immediate rematch, Pavlik will grant it to him.

However, Arum is hoping both f ighters take interim fights first.

“I think it would be silly to do an immediate rematch,” Arum said. “There’s no reason for that. Lou [DiBella, Taylor’s promoter] has indicated the same thing, let’s get some air under it. We will honor the commitment, though.”

Contrary to what Arum said, there are some very viable reasons for an immediate rematch, including the fact that Pavlik’s popularity has never been greater and it is the one fight in the middleweight division that the public wants to see.

DiBella wouldn’t directly address the timing of a rematch, and instead said he will talk it over this week with the Taylor camp.

Taylor did say he wants to fight Pavlik in his next bout and wants the rematch as soon as possible, no matter what the rest of his team says.

“I def initely want a rematch,” a composed Taylor said in the postfight news conference. “That’s what boxing is all about, bouncing back and coming back. Kelly is a great fighter, and I’ll be glad to fight him again. I can’t wait.

“It’s all about bouncing back right now. I still feel like I’ve got a long way to go in boxing, and I have a lot to learn. Now I can’t wait for the rematch.”

Pavlik said he was also open to an immediate rematch.

“If Jermain wants to fight now, I’m ready,” he said. “I never turn a fight down.”

It is likely that when the rematch takes place it will again be a 160-pound title fight, and not at a 166-pound catchweight as originally written in the contract.

When the contract was signed, Taylor believed he would no longer be fighting at middleweight if a rematch took place. However, because he had such little problem making 160 pounds this time around, it appears he might be able to stay in the middleweight division, after all.

Taylor was shaken, and downtrodden, but composed after the fight. He said he had no problem with referee Steve Smoger’s decision to end the fight and rule it a knockout, and he was complimentary of Pavlik, as were Steward and DiBella.

But Taylor was also stunned.

“I can’t believe I lost,” Taylor said. “All that hard work, eight weeks of training camp. I did everything right. I kept my weight down. I don’t know, I just can’t believe I lost.”

Taylor didn’t make any excuses.

He was asked if he could have continued if Smoger didn’t stop the fight, but the former champion said the knockout was legitimate.

“He just caught me with it,” Taylor said. “I didn’t see it coming. I wasn’t expecting it. I couldn’t roll it like I wanted to do. He caught me with a great shot, man.”

Taylor was leading by three points on two judges’ scorecards and four points on the third card entering the seventh round. He caught Pavlik with some great shots of his own in the second round, when Taylor got the first knockdown in any of his title defenses.

But it turns out that knockdown might have been his undoing.

Taylor, knowing Pavlik was in trouble, said he threw a ton of punches trying to get him out. He just didn’t throw the correct kind of punch — an uppercut — as Steward had instructed him.

Throwing that many punches expended too much energy, and Steward said when Pavlik answered the bell to start the third round the momentum had shifted squarely to the Youngstown, Ohio, fighter’s corner.

By the seventh round, despite being in control of the fight on the scorecards, Taylor was not moving as well in the ring. He was no longer avoiding punches and abandoned his jab.

It was only a matter of time before a powerful Pavlik punch connected.

In the end, several did. Pavlik got up off the mat to come back and win a championship. Taylor has to do the same thing with his career now.

“In the second round, I threw a lot of unnecessary punches,” Taylor said. “I should have come with the uppercut. I thought I had him down, but I’ll give it to Kelly. He got up and came back strong. I was very surprised he came back up.”

Taylor said he will find a way to do the same thing.

“Don’t give up on me. I’m coming back next time,” Taylor said. “I lost, but don’t give up on me. I’ll be back.”

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Don't say he wasn't humble. A story on the front page the other day said he made up excuses and said he wasn't legitimately knocked out. He acted much classier in defeat than he had after his last 2 wins.

pipe wrenched
10-06-2007, 11:30 AM
Best of luck to Taylor, but I will again be wishing for Pavlik when they fight again.

jaycuban
10-06-2007, 11:40 AM
Taylor is a great guy, you can see it in his interviews.. very humble, I honestly think he is a better fighter thatn Pavlik, no disrespect to Pavlik at all (great champ) but on the rematch i think Taylor is going to win, the same way i tought he was going to in the first (and it looked that way in the 2nd) but he did get beat. But i got taylor in the rematch.

PavlikPoundsYou
10-06-2007, 11:41 AM
I am eager to see him get knocked out again. It was fun the first time.

pipe wrenched
10-06-2007, 11:44 AM
Pavliks been my favorite fighter since before the Zertuche fight, but I have to admit I've always liked Taylor too and honestly felt kind of bad for him seeing him crumbled in the corner. Hell of a win for Pavlik.

standing 8
10-06-2007, 11:49 AM
It should be intersting to see if Taylor goes into the rematch gunshy or not.

marauder1999
10-06-2007, 11:52 AM
When Taylor got knocked out and finally came to he said to his camp---"What happened, did I get knocked out". Its true.

However, this was not due entirely to the uppercut that Pavlik threw, it was due to the entire 7 rounds of his constant jab that hit taylors face all night long.

If they fight again, Taylor will be asking again, "What happened, did I get knocked out?"

But because alot of Taylor fans only think Taylor is going to train like crazy to regain his belts--they forget that pavlik will be training too and he is still young and hungry and not about to give them belts back any time soon, ecspecially to the man that he took him off of.

El Bombasto
10-06-2007, 11:57 AM
Taylor is a great guy, you can see it in his interviews.. very humble, I honestly think he is a better fighter thatn Pavlik, no disrespect to Pavlik at all (great champ) but on the rematch i think Taylor is going to win, the same way i tought he was going to in the first (and it looked that way in the 2nd) but he did get beat. But i got taylor in the rematch.

taylor was performing well up until the stoppage, but you have to wonder how it will affect him in the rematch. it's hard enough to get over not only a devasting knockout, but the first time he's been stopped and the first time he's lost. i wonder how an already mentally weak fighter like taylor can bounce back from that

pipe wrenched
10-06-2007, 12:00 PM
taylor was performing well up until the stoppage, but you have to wonder how it will affect him in the rematch. it's hard enough to get over not only a devasting knockout, but the first time he's been stopped and the first time he's lost. i wonder how an already mentally weak fighter like taylor can bounce back from that

No doubt. And along with the things you mentioned, it was also his first knock down ever.

BUT, being knocked down or out could have been something he feared most and now that he's tasted it, he might not be afraid of it anymore. Just the other side of the coin.

MrStayman
10-06-2007, 12:34 PM
Did anyone else realize that this article doesn't actually tell us anything new?

audio101
10-06-2007, 12:49 PM
I can't wait to see Taylor punch himself out again...

LeonMcS
10-06-2007, 12:56 PM
No excuses given, classy effort by Taylor. Hope he can pick up another belt in the future.

boxfan99
10-06-2007, 12:58 PM
I will definately cheer for Taylor, Pavliks huggers have almost made me despise the man.

bill poster
10-06-2007, 01:53 PM
I can't wait to see Taylor punch himself out again...

Which is what will happen. I would like to see Taylor win tho as it sets up a rubber

Jinx
10-06-2007, 05:55 PM
i wanted to Taylor to KO Pavlik in that second rd, but when it didn't happen i knew Taylor was in trouble because Pavlik looked more loose in his punches...Taylor can beat Pavlik if he learns how to catch/block/evade a right hand, and starts catching the jab...Taylor also has to box more behind his jab, because no jab means Pavlik can just come with his own right hand...i can't wait for the rematch...

mattress
10-06-2007, 05:57 PM
I will definately cheer for Taylor, Pavliks huggers have almost made me despise the man.

Tis sad but true.

ozziebattler
10-06-2007, 06:13 PM
Who knows this 1st career loss for taylor might bring back the eye of the tiger.

Its hard to stay hungry when your the top dog and every1 around you nuthugs..Only natural to go to ones head..

If i were taylor i would be at my most dangerous right now..Quickly licking my wounds whilst thinking about nothing but redemption...

Hope a rematch does eventuate..

But in all honesty if i were pavlik i would make atleast 1 defence of the title before taylor v pavlik 2.

Make Taylor earn his rematch..

Ambition_Def
10-06-2007, 07:32 PM
What eye of the tiger?

Taylor's limitations aren't exceptional to his last few fights. He's had this stigma for awhile now. Poor stamina because he doesn't have elite training methods, a brawler front runner mentality that he tries too hard to impress in the first few rounds and a vunerabiity to right hands.

I hate to say it, but Taylor isn't far off from Zab Judah. Of course he is a bit more focused but overall almost an exact copy.

There is no denying that Taylor has heart. The problem is heart doesn't come into play if your opponent can end your night with 1 or 2 right hands.

After seeing the first fight a few times I am certain that Taylor won't repeat the second round. Pavlik took alot of punches before he went down and I'm quite certain they will study that round a gazillion times before the rematch. Pavlik will likely bring his guard closer and keep tight behind the jab. Which ultimately will lead to a more patient approach.

His jab was also doing a number on Taylor as the fight wore on. And Sky sports was hilariously biased in their round by round commentary for Taylor.

In any event I see Pavlik more responsible defensively and I see Taylor trying his best, but ultimately sucumbing to his endurance issues and getting knocked out again.

jsimps
10-07-2007, 10:24 AM
Agree, Pavlik won't make the mistake that he made in the 2nd rd, again. This time he won't showboat. it'll be strictly business. The results will be the same. I think Taylor drops Manny.

WiDDoW_MaKeR
10-07-2007, 10:37 AM
You can't dislike a man like Taylor.

Amsterdam
10-07-2007, 10:45 AM
All of the questions were answered in the first bout, this time Pavlik won't be stupid and won't get caught with his hands down like that again. Other than that, as the rounds went on the heat started wearing Taylor down and made him have no poise at all.

Waste of time, Pavlik KO even sooner. I want to see Pavlik fight someone else, like Abraham.

Vincent Gottschalk
10-07-2007, 11:05 AM
I really want too see Pavlik take on Abraham too:good But think he needs a easy one with some like More next as I don't want him to burn out because of fighting one tough fight after other Zertuche,Miranda and Taylor were all rough fights.
Really don't like that they had a rematch clause for Taylor vs Pavlik after all Pavlik was the number one contender he should not had to sign one to get a shot at the title:twisted:

marauder1999
10-07-2007, 11:21 AM
Really don't like that they had a rematch clause for Taylor vs Pavlik after all Pavlik was the number one contender he should not had to sign one to get a shot at the title:twisted:

That is so true. That just shows you that the Taylor camp was worried from the getgo. Doesnt matter though--I dont see Pavlik sticking out his chin in the next fight. I do however see Taylor getting Ko'd again only sooner than last time.

pipe wrenched
10-07-2007, 11:34 AM
I really want too see Pavlik take on Abraham too:good But think he needs a easy one with some like More next as I don't want him to burn out because of fighting one tough fight after other Zertuche,Miranda and Taylor were all rough fights.
Really don't like that they had a rematch clause for Taylor vs Pavlik after all Pavlik was the number one contender he should not had to sign one to get a shot at the title:twisted:

True. Not to mention the "measley" $666,000.00 he got for starring in one of the biggest TV fights of the year. All of which was supposed to make Kelly turn down the deal, but SURPRISE, he took it.

TRUEBELIEVER 66
10-07-2007, 12:07 PM
Pavlik will stop Taylor again, i just can't see anything different than the first fight- only next time my money will be on Kelly..:respect

Pro
10-07-2007, 12:22 PM
The rematch will be just as good as the first one. This time we'll really see what Jermain is made of. Many people including myself thought the old Jermain Taylor would show up but he didn't because the Jermain Taylor that was winning those horrible fights was...well winning. I think he has what it takes to beat Pavlik I believe he can't back away and let Pavlik dictate the pace with his long reach. In order for him to win he's going to have to make it a dog fight if he can do that I think he KO's Pavlik in the rematch.

PACZ
10-07-2007, 12:27 PM
Taylor Needs A Tune Up.