Substance abuse during fights.

[janitor]

For most of boxings history, various drugs have been used between rounds to keep a fighter going.

Jim Jeffries asked for cocaine to be injected into his broken hands to alow him to fight a second bout on the same card.

Gene Tunney was fed adrenaline and spirits, to keep him on his feet while Harry Greb was beating him up, and nearly died as a result.

Jake LaMotta drank between rounds, to keep him on his feet through the St Valentines day masacre.

[My2Sense]

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[lora]

Miguel Lora had sugar water confiscated from his corner in the second Davila fight.

[klompton]

Gene Tunney was fed adrenaline and spirits, to keep him on his feet while Harry Greb was beating him up, and nearly died as a result.

Jake LaMotta drank between rounds, to keep him on his feet through the St Valentines day masacre.


The second two of these are questionable. First, LaMotta was not drinking to keep him on his feet against Robinson. Thats a myth that senile old Ferdie Pacheco came up with. Its Bullshit.

Tunney was not "fed" adrenaline. It was being used to try to stop his cuts from bleeding. He did not "nearly die" from it either. The combination of blood he was swallowing from his broken nose and LIBERAL amounts of brandy he was given (this was common at the time) to help from getting feint, made him naseous. He collapsed after the fight and was bed ridden for a time but this was from the beating he suffered and the loss of blood, not from the adrenaline or brandy.

[klompton]

I forgot to add my personal fav: Mike Ayala being on Heroin against Lopez. That was a hell of a fight for a guy who was on another planet at the time.

[Seamus]

I read that Mando Ramos fired up heroin the morning of his second fight with Teo Cruz.

[My2Sense]

TFirst, LaMotta was not drinking to keep him on his feet against Robinson. Thats a myth that senile old Ferdie Pacheco came up with. Its Bullshit.


LaMotta says he had a shot of whiskey in his dressing room before the fight. Ferdie must've taken that and run with it.

[anarci]

Heard Duran drank a quart of beer before a fight, im pretty sure it was the fight against Robbie Sims.

[ripcity]

Nicolino Locche was said to have smoked and drink wine between rounds.

[ricardinho]

Heard Duran drank a quart of beer before a fight, im pretty sure it was the fight against Robbie Sims.

My father told me that Ruben Olivares would disappear on drinking binges that lasted days...only to come in and ko his top ranked opponent

Whitaker allegedly would fight coked out.

[klompton]

I wouldnt be surprised to find out lots of fighters fought coked up, especially in the 80s.

[rusty nails]

ive heard rumours from people that would know about shannan taylor fighting shane mosley after snorting coke all morning.

[john garfield]

Was ringside at the Librado Andrade-Tito Mendoza main-go at the Bren Center in irvine, California. Andrade kept bouncing Mendoza off the canvas, but to his credit, Mendoza kept gettin' up and throwin' bombs, 'n coming out fresh as a daisy every round.

Before the last round, eagle-eyed judge Marty Denkin shouted to the ref that Mendoza's cornerman had an illegal stimulant secreted in the towel covering his face, and to confiscate it. I was sitting right next to Denkin 'n didn't spot it.

Sure enough, he did -- a bluish substance.

Mendoza lost by a lopsided margin. His purse was held-up and his cornerman had a suspension hearing before the California Boxing Commission. Never heard the outcome

[sweet_scientist]

Didn't Young Griffo rock up drunk for fights and swig booze between rounds to keep the buzz going? :D

[anarci]

My avi Mando Ramos was known to drink and do drugs the night before a fight, and most of the time win. Many insiders have said Mando would have been an ATG if not for his drug and alchohol problems.

[Unforgiven]

Jim Jeffries asked for cocaine to be injected into his broken hands to alow him to fight a second bout on the same card.

I'm not sure I'd class that as "abuse". I guess it depends of the extent of the damage to his hands. Lots of guys shot up their hands. Max Baer, Muhammad Ali, many many more. Maybe most of them sometime or another.

Did Jeff fight the second fight ?

[mcvey]

For most of boxings history, various drugs have been used between rounds to keep a fighter going.

Jim Jeffries asked for cocaine to be injected into his broken hands to alow him to fight a second bout on the same card.

Gene Tunney was fed adrenaline and spirits, to keep him on his feet while Harry Greb was beating him up, and nearly died as a result.

Jake LaMotta drank between rounds, to keep him on his feet through the St Valentines day masacre.

I beleive Jeffries was anxious to fulfill his contract ,as it was a big chance for him to display his wares,he was not seeking any advantage ,in fact he should be commended for trying to continue although injured.
He received an unfair panning in the press ,the day after the affair .

Your old mate John L used to imbibe between rounds, sometimes Brandy ,sometimes Champagne.
In one fight he was given gin and water ,and duly vomited, a wag said "John is bringing up the water."

He must have been well pissed by the time he finished off Kilrain.:lol:

[PowerPuncher]

Mosley - EPO

[GPater11093]

Nicolino Locche was said to have smoked and drink wine between rounds.

Yep :lol::lol:

[janitor]

I'm not sure I'd class that as "abuse". I guess it depends of the extent of the damage to his hands. Lots of guys shot up their hands. Max Baer, Muhammad Ali, many many more. Maybe most of them sometime or another.

Did Jeff fight the second fight ?

The second fight was not alowed to go ahead by the fight doctor.

It is true that Jeffries was not seeking advantage, but using cocaine would have got him DQd today.

[lefthook31]

I think its more rampant than anyone thinks. When I was involved with the amatuers in the early 90's I cant tell you how many showed up to fight stoned on weed. Incredible really.

[RockysSplitNose]

Didn't Young Griffo rock up drunk for fights and swig booze between rounds to keep the buzz going? :D

:lol::lol::lol::lol::D:D:D One of the funniest posts ever

[john garfield]

I think its more rampant than anyone thinks. When I was involved with the amatuers in the early 90's I cant tell you how many showed up to fight stoned on weed. Incredible really.

When you fought amateur in the '90s, l, where guys still takin' caffeine tablets 'n Dexedrine?

[Titan1]

They said that Michael"Dynamite"Dokes was high on Cocaine when he lost to Gerrie Coetzee.

[Swarmer]

Was ringside at the Librado Andrade-Tito Mendoza main-go at the Bren Center in irvine, California. Andrade kept bouncing Mendoza off the canvas, but to his credit, Mendoza kept gettin' up and throwin' bombs, 'n coming out fresh as a daisy every round.

Before the last round, eagle-eyed judge Marty Denkin shouted to the ref that Mendoza's cornerman had an illegal stimulant secreted in the towel covering his face, and to confiscate it. I was sitting right next to Denkin 'n didn't spot it.

Sure enough, he did -- a bluish substance.


Probably adderall standard release or something similar

[salsanchezfan]

Lew Jenkins admitted to entering the ring so drunk on numerous occasions that he'd nearly be falling over. Then he'd drink more in his corner.

[Robot16]

I forgot to add my personal fav: Mike Ayala being on Heroin against Lopez. That was a hell of a fight for a guy who was on another planet at the time.

first one i though of.

Also pryor vs Arguello :yep:yep:yep

[The Funny Man 7]

Early in his career Paul Banke entered the ring drunk and was knocked out early.

I think Zack Padilla was high on coke during several of his earlier fights.

[sportofkings]

Tony Ayala was supposed to have used cocaine right before some of his fights

[PhillyPhan69]

I doubt it qualifies what you are looking for as far as substance abuse goes during a fight, but Yaqui Lopez's co-trainer Hank Pericle claims that there was a rule prohibiting smelling salts in their second fight with Saad Muhammad and while he followed that rule he found out that Saad's camp did not. He blamed their usage of it, combined with his following the rule as the reason why Matt got his 2nd wind and Yaqui did not.

On the Miricle Matt Franklin/Saad Muhammad front...there are reports that when he was cut in his first fight with Conteh, the ointment that was used to stop his cut got on his gloves and ultimately into the eyes Conteh. The WBC suspended his cutman Adolph Ritaccio for a year and mandated an immediate rematch.

I don't think thats what you were looking for, but I was doing some reading on Franklin/Muhammad and came across both of those reports.

[prime]

Honey is hardly a substance, but Wali Muhammad is on the record in Hauser's book saying he gave, a by his account reluctant-to-continue, Muhammad Ali a drink of sweetened water, "honey and water, from a bottle I'd made up", in preparation for the 15th round against Frazier in Manila.

Isn't anything but water off-limits?

If the above is accurate, was Ali then given a cheating hand to victory in his biggest fight?

[Russell]

Honey is hardly a substance, but Wali Muhammad is on the record in Hauser's book saying he gave, a by his account reluctant-to-continue, Muhammad Ali a drink of sweetened water, "honey and water, from a bottle I'd made up", in preparation for the 15th round against Frazier in Manila.

Isn't anything but water off-limits?

If the above is accurate, was Ali then given a cheating hand to victory in his biggest fight?

Shhhhhhhh:nono

[alexvoce]

Honey is hardly a substance, but Wali Muhammad is on the record in Hauser's book saying he gave, a by his account reluctant-to-continue, Muhammad Ali a drink of sweetened water, "honey and water, from a bottle I'd made up", in preparation for the 15th round against Frazier in Manila.

Isn't anything but water off-limits?

If the above is accurate, was Ali then given a cheating hand to victory in his biggest fight?

yeah he was a cheat just like he cheated with the smelling salts when he got laid down by LHW henry cooper

[prime]

Honey is hardly a substance, but Wali Muhammad is on the record in Hauser's book saying he gave, a by his account reluctant-to-continue, Muhammad Ali a drink of sweetened water, "honey and water, from a bottle I'd made up", in preparation for the 15th round against Frazier in Manila.

Isn't anything but water off-limits?

If the above is accurate, was Ali then given a cheating hand to victory in his biggest fight?

"Blood" doesn't say he fed Ali the honey at any prior time during the fight, but it seems hard to believe he had prepared the bottle and waited until the last possible moment of a hellish bout to use it.

On the other hand, could the honey have accounted for Ali's late, game-winning surge?

[Ezzard]

There's a fight in the 80s when Holmes sits in the corner between rounds and asks for his blue bottle.

[Boxed Ears]

Honey is hardly a substance, but Wali Muhammad is on the record in Hauser's book saying he gave, a by his account reluctant-to-continue, Muhammad Ali a drink of sweetened water, "honey and water, from a bottle I'd made up", in preparation for the 15th round against Frazier in Manila.

Isn't anything but water off-limits?

If the above is accurate, was Ali then given a cheating hand to victory in his biggest fight?

What? :lol:

[prime]

What? :lol:

From Merriam Webster: SUBSTANCE: (noun) something (as drugs or alcoholic beverages) deemed harmful and usually subject to legal restriction <possession of a controlled substance> <substance abuse>

Thus, honey is hardly a substance.

But it may have given Ali a cheating boost in Manila.

[prime]

There's a fight in the 80s when Holmes sits in the corner between rounds and asks for his blue bottle.

And check out Larry in his corner before Round 4 against Tyson: he is given two drinks from two different bottles. He seems to say: "Big one! Big one!"