Floyd and Shane ready for Classic battle nose to nose

[Bummy Davis]

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Floyd “Money” Mayweather and Sugar Shane Mosley get in each other’s faces during a press conference today in New York City to officially kick off their May 1 PPV showdown at MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Tha card is billed as “Who R U Picking?”
Photos: Ed Mulholland
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[Bummy Davis]

Looks like Shane is the stronger...Floyd trying mind games but Shane does not back down...Hmmmmm

[burt bienstock]

Too bad that Shane Mosley, in his prime,as a lightweight did'nt meet Floyd Mayweather, at his best...Then again Mayweather ,surely would have never agreed to that match.For good reason....Prime Mosley licks prime Mayweather equal weights....Now it is a toss up....

[lefthook31]

Too bad that Shane Mosley, in his prime,as a lightweight did'nt meet Floyd Mayweather, at his best...Then again Mayweather ,surely would have never agreed to that match.For good reason....Prime Mosley licks prime Mayweather equal weights....Now it is a toss up....
Is Mayweather in his prime, hes 33?

[JudgeDredd]

Is Mayweather in his prime, hes 33?
He's closer to his prime than Mosley.

[Flea Man]

Shane looks old.......so does Floyd........at least Shane has a trainer who knows how to deal with old guys AND strategy.

I think Flyods footspeed/movement will be the difference in this fight.

[lefthook31]

He's closer to his prime than Mosley.
Yes but Mosley is no walking dead man. His suit is horrible though. :blood

[Unforgiven]

I hate seeing these press conferences and all this gay WWE-style bullshit. Why they have to get so close to each other i do not know.

[PowerPuncher]

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:lol:

[PowerPuncher]

Too bad that Shane Mosley, in his prime,as a lightweight did'nt meet Floyd Mayweather, at his best...Then again Mayweather ,surely would have never agreed to that match.For good reason....Prime Mosley licks prime Mayweather equal weights....Now it is a toss up....

Too bad but Mosley turned it down in 2000 not floyd

[techks]

Mosley used some taekwondo moves on Floyd. Money watch out!!!:lol:

[Bummy Davis]

Too bad but Mosley turned it down in 2000 not floyd

The only reason Floyd wanted the fight was Shane was fresh off 2 loses....Prime for prime at 135 Shane beats him....Now Floyd has the advantage but Shane wants this and still has some speed and power and takes a good shot....This will be interesting but Floyd will run his ass off

[techks]

The only reason Floyd wanted the fight was Shane was fresh off 2 loses....Prime for prime at 135 Shane beats him....Now Floyd has the advantage but Shane wants this and still has some speed and power and takes a good shot....This will be interesting but Floyd will run his ass off
:huhMosley didn't lose until fighting Forrest in 2002. The reason he decided not to fight Floyd because Floyd wasn't as known as he is now and why fight Floyd when you can get bigger bucks against a prime Oscar?

[Francis75]

Looks like Shane is growing a bit of a Tommy Hearns style afro for the fight.

[PowerPuncher]

The only reason Floyd wanted the fight was Shane was fresh off 2 loses....Prime for prime at 135 Shane beats him....Now Floyd has the advantage but Shane wants this and still has some speed and power and takes a good shot....This will be interesting but Floyd will run his ass off

Learn your time line and facts straight, Floyd tried to get the Mosley fight when Shane was at 135 in 2000, he called him out again after Mosley beat Delahoya. He called him out again in 2006 after Shane beat Vargas twice and had a few more wins at WW. Mayweather never called Shane out straight after he lost to Winky, thats pure BS, he called Winky out after Winky beat Mosley and Winky overvalued himself

When was the first time Mosley called out Mayweather? 2009

[Boxed Ears]

Oh, it's such a dog and pony show, isn't it? Translate everything into "OOO, we REALLY REALLY DO hate each other! Oooo! It's real this time! Ooooo! Hate!"

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[techks]

Learn your time line and facts straight, Floyd tried to get the Mosley fight when Shane was at 135 in 2000, he called him out again after Mosley beat Delahoya. He called him out again in 2006 after Shane beat Vargas twice and had a few more wins at WW. Mayweather never called Shane out straight after he lost to Winky, thats pure BS, he called Winky out after Winky beat Mosley and Winky overvalued himself

When was the first time Mosley called out Mayweather? 2009
Agreed but they're fighting now so there really shouldn't be an argument because they are scheduled to fight May 1, 2010 just a few months from now. May did call Shane out in his prime but Mosley wanted bigger money. Shane wanted to fight Floyd in 2007 because he already had fought Vargas twice thain 2006 but DLH had other plans. I'm just glad the fight is signed but it's a shame they couldn't fight in their primes BUT that's better for Floyd because he is better now defensively than in the past and that's an advantage going into this fight. I hope Shane can pull the W but gets it fair n square if the fight goes the distance and not Mosley by KO(possible but still VERY unlikely).

[itrymariti]

Learn your time line and facts straight, Floyd tried to get the Mosley fight when Shane was at 135 in 2000, he called him out again after Mosley beat Delahoya. He called him out again in 2006 after Shane beat Vargas twice and had a few more wins at WW. Mayweather never called Shane out straight after he lost to Winky, thats pure BS, he called Winky out after Winky beat Mosley and Winky overvalued himself

When was the first time Mosley called out Mayweather? 2009

See you've changed that avatar, finally.

[itrymariti]

Lightweight Mosley would have beaten Lightweight Mayweather.

I'd slightly favour prime Welterweight Mosley over Mayweather.

At this stage, I'd favour Mayweather over Mosley.

[itrymariti]

Is Mayweather in his prime, hes 33?

Mayweather hasn't had a fraction of the tough, grueling fights Mosley has.

[Boxed Ears]

Mayweather hasn't had a fraction of the tough, grueling fights Mosley has.

I have to think if he got clocked by Vernon the way Mosley was, he would have retired for real.

[lefthook31]

Mayweather hasn't had a fraction of the tough, grueling fights Mosley has.
so, Mosley is coming off his second best career win. That could be bad news for Mayweather anyway, if Shane is capable of dragging him into a fire fight. Who knows how hungry Mayweather is to dig himself out of a tough fight. We know Shane can, but Mayweather has been sleeping in silk pajamas for too long.

[Starched Him]

so, Mosley is coming off his second best career win. That could be bad news for Mayweather anyway, if Shane is capable of dragging him into a fire fight. Who knows how hungry Mayweather is to dig himself out of a tough fight. We know Shane can, but Mayweather has been sleeping in silk pajamas for too long.
After Oscar put Vargas in the Hospital you Heard what George said.
Stay away from guys that sleep in silk Pajamas or sleep on silk sheets wtf ever lol

[Boxed Ears]

so, Mosley is coming off his second best career win. That could be bad news for Mayweather anyway, if Shane is capable of dragging him into a fire fight. Who knows how hungry Mayweather is to dig himself out of a tough fight. We know Shane can, but Mayweather has been sleeping in silk pajamas for too long.

But Margarito is a big slowish guy with a defense that makes Chris Arreola look like Willie Pep. Mosley didn't have to chase Margarito either. How an older fighter looks against an opponent who can't expose potential losses in reflexes and how they look against fighters who are 10/10 on speed are two different things.

[Starched Him]

The only reason Floyd wanted the fight was Shane was fresh off 2 loses....Prime for prime at 135 Shane beats him....Now Floyd has the advantage but Shane wants this and still has some speed and power and takes a good shot....This will be interesting but Floyd will run his ass off

Mosley was undefeated in 2000 pay attention
The next time Floyd called him out Mosley out again after Shane leaping Left hook sent Vargas to a nice quite place i think this was in 06 and shane had a great year I think that same left hook put mayoraga away that year
we got enough inaccurate info in the general forum

[PowerPuncher]

Agreed but they're fighting now so there really shouldn't be an argument because they are scheduled to fight May 1, 2010 just a few months from now. May did call Shane out in his prime but Mosley wanted bigger money. Shane wanted to fight Floyd in 2007 because he already had fought Vargas twice thain 2006 but DLH had other plans. I'm just glad the fight is signed but it's a shame they couldn't fight in their primes BUT that's better for Floyd because he is better now defensively than in the past and that's an advantage going into this fight. I hope Shane can pull the W but gets it fair n square if the fight goes the distance and not Mosley by KO(possible but still VERY unlikely).

It is a shame it didnt happen in their primes, but anyone acting like Mayweather has purposely awaited Mosley to get old is oblivious of the facts. Mosley was busy chasing the big money in Oscar and didnt need Mayweather, which is fair enough. In 2006 when they were finally in the same division and in a place to make the fight he was likely told to step aside by his boss.

BTW dont think Mayweather has improved defensively, I think hes certainly slowed

[red cobra]

I hate seeing these press conferences and all this gay WWE-style bullshit. Why they have to get so close to each other i do not know.
This is a modern day phenomenon, fighters acting like WWF/WWE jackasses..and it dovetails quite well with the declining popularity
and cheapening of boxing over the years. Great fighters of thew past didn't indulge in this undignified horseshit..and even when there was trash talking it was more restrained.

[StWerburghs]

Naseem Richardson...Legend!!!!

Was really funny at the Press conference, seemed like a really decent person aswell

[bodhi]

Lightweight Mosley would have beaten Lightweight Mayweather.

I'd slightly favour prime Welterweight Mosley over Mayweather.

At this stage, I'd favour Mayweather over Mosley.

This.

[Rubber Warrior]

Yes but Mosley is no walking dead man. His suit is horrible though. :blood

That suit would have looked terrific if this was 1985. :good

He looks sorta like Tubbs on the old Miami Vice.

[mcvey]

But Margarito is a big slowish guy with a defense that makes Chris Arreola look like Willie Pep. Mosley didn't have to chase Margarito either. How an older fighter looks against an opponent who can't expose potential losses in reflexes and how they look against fighters who are 10/10 on speed are two different things.

Very astute comments:good.

[lefthook31]

But Margarito is a big slowish guy with a defense that makes Chris Arreola look like Willie Pep. Mosley didn't have to chase Margarito either. How an older fighter looks against an opponent who can't expose potential losses in reflexes and how they look against fighters who are 10/10 on speed are two different things.
Tell that to the other guys hes beaten before Mosley.:roll:

[burt bienstock]

After watching photos of the Mosley/Mayweather antics, I long for the Good old days...When fighters wore short black or white Everlast trunks, acted like adult tough guys at weighins, champions fought the very best contenders, time after time,there were eight weight divisions, and public popular demand,for competitive matches , were heeded by the fighters....Yes I long for the days of yore, because , you know what? THEY WERE BETTER.....

[Minotauro]

Cheers for the pics.

[Boxed Ears]

Tell that to the other guys hes beaten before Mosley.:roll:

...I don't have to. He was the EXACT same way with Cotto and everybody else that I've seen him fight. I'm not running down his strengths, but the weaknesses of being underwhelming in hand speed and blocking with his face in a constant forward motion aren't tough to point out. None of his opponents had to chase him, all could hit him as long as the fight went on. Every guy I've watched him fight. Cotto, Cintron, Clottey, Lujan-the other guys he's beaten before the Mosley fight. It's never been different that I've noticed. Cotto didn't have to chase Margarito, did he? Cotto hit Margo with everything but the kitchen sink, didn't he?

He moved forward and let Cintron bomb him with a smile and returned fire. Slowish fire. Totally, totally different fights anyway, but I don't understand your point, mate. Slower punching fighters that come forward constantly and without head movement do not test older fighters' reflexes for dulling. Had Mosley fought Berto over a year ago instead, then we might better know what kind of shape he's in. Unless Mosley had ended it with the first punch, in which case we wouldn't know. But, again, I'm not running down Margo's strengths or how good Mosley's win over him was. I'm only questioning how telling that fight was for what kind of shape Mosley is in.

[Bummy Davis]

Mosley was undefeated in 2000 pay attention
The next time Floyd called him out Mosley out again after Shane leaping Left hook sent Vargas to a nice quite place i think this was in 06 and shane had a great year I think that same left hook put mayoraga away that year
we got enough inaccurate info in the general forum


I pay attention, I just heard Floyd in an interview and he was told you did not want to fight Shane until he had 2 back to back loses, not before...I dont know who is saying Floyd called him out then. Floyd did not dispute it in the interview

[Bummy Davis]

Learn your time line and facts straight, Floyd tried to get the Mosley fight when Shane was at 135 in 2000, he called him out again after Mosley beat Delahoya. He called him out again in 2006 after Shane beat Vargas twice and had a few more wins at WW. Mayweather never called Shane out straight after he lost to Winky, thats pure BS, he called Winky out after Winky beat Mosley and Winky overvalued himself

When was the first time Mosley called out Mayweather? 2009

Floyd was just told in an interview that he did not want to fight Shane until after the losses to Forest and he did not protest. A lot of fighters say they want to fight and then look for a reason out...I dont think Floyd wanted to fight Pac-man

[lefthook31]

...I don't have to. He was the EXACT same way with Cotto and everybody else that I've seen him fight. I'm not running down his strengths, but the weaknesses of being underwhelming in hand speed and blocking with his face in a constant forward motion aren't tough to point out. None of his opponents had to chase him, all could hit him as long as the fight went on. Every guy I've watched him fight. Cotto, Cintron, Clottey, Lujan-the other guys he's beaten before the Mosley fight. It's never been different that I've noticed. Cotto didn't have to chase Margarito, did he? Cotto hit Margo with everything but the kitchen sink, didn't he?

He moved forward and let Cintron bomb him with a smile and returned fire. Slowish fire. Totally, totally different fights anyway, but I don't understand your point, mate. Slower punching fighters that come forward constantly and without head movement do not test older fighters' reflexes for dulling. Had Mosley fought Berto over a year ago instead, then we might better know what kind of shape he's in. Unless Mosley had ended it with the first punch, in which case we wouldn't know. But, again, I'm not running down Margo's strengths or how good Mosley's win over him was. I'm only questioning how telling that fight was for what kind of shape Mosley is in.
Well my point is your downgrading the win because of Margaritos supposed shortcomings that got him through some pretty tough fights in the past. Hes always been the same, yet hes worn down faster younger stronger fighters. Even Paul Williams who throws a thousand punches a round was starting to slow and the fight became very close at the end. Margarito beat opponents on strength, pressure and workraate not savvy boxing skills. Mosley beat him at his own game.
Going into that fight I think a lot of people thought Mosley was going to get killed. Its only after the fight that people are saying he only beat him because of the style matchups.

[PowerPuncher]

After watching photos of the Mosley/Mayweather antics, I long for the Good old days...When fighters wore short black or white Everlast trunks, acted like adult tough guys at weighins, champions fought the very best contenders, time after time,there were eight weight divisions, and public popular demand,for competitive matches , were heeded by the fighters....Yes I long for the days of yore, because , you know what? THEY WERE BETTER.....

You mean like when Duran talked about sleeping with Leonards wife?

[PowerPuncher]

Floyd was just told in an interview that he did not want to fight Shane until after the losses to Forest and he did not protest. A lot of fighters say they want to fight and then look for a reason out...I dont think Floyd wanted to fight Pac-man

So thats your basis of facts, RA Rugged Muchkin :lol: Floyd's not a good debater, RA Rugged was well off with all his 'facts'

Pacquaio walked away from the fight, Mayweather signed

[Bummy Davis]

So thats your basis of facts, RA Rugged Muchkin :lol: Floyd's not a good debater, RA Rugged was well off with all his 'facts'

Pacquaio walked away from the fight, Mayweather signed


Floyd admitted that was the first time he tried to fight Shane. I don't think Floyd wants to fight a tough pressure fighter with speed. Shane may be too old to do it but if Shane makes it a war. I am not sure Floyd can fight that type of fighter...Floyd was trying to play mind games with Pac + the extra testing...come-on fight the guy dont try so hard to find reasons not too

[PowerPuncher]

Floyd admitted that was the first time he tried to fight Shane. I don't think Floyd wants to fight a tough pressure fighter with speed. Shane may be too old to do it but if Shane makes it a war. I am not sure Floyd can fight that type of fighter...Floyd was trying to play mind games with Pac + the extra testing...come-on fight the guy dont try so hard to find reasons not too

Umm no he didnt, Floyd said he wanted Mosley since 2000 and Rugged was like 'yea when he was coming off 2 losses', when in actual fact Mosley was unbeaten. The fight wasnt even offered to Mosley then when he was coming off losses, Mosley turned the fight down on national TV in 06, and he was called out years before that on national TV and in the media never showing an interest in the fight

[Unforgiven]

After watching photos of the Mosley/Mayweather antics, I long for the Good old days...When fighters wore short black or white Everlast trunks, acted like adult tough guys at weighins, champions fought the very best contenders, time after time,there were eight weight divisions, and public popular demand,for competitive matches , were heeded by the fighters....Yes I long for the days of yore, because , you know what? THEY WERE BETTER.....


I concur. :good

[itrymariti]

There's a huge difference between calling somebody out and actually intending to fight him. I'm not blaming Mayweather or Mosley, but talk is very cheap.

[Rubber Warrior]

The fact is Floyd is fighting Shane. Has it occured to anybody that maybe Gilligan and Skipper are working behind the scenes on Shane's behalf? Twelve million turned down for a rubber match with Oscar, the marked inability to do shit after the Margarito fight even though it would have been in the best interest of ALL concerned that Mosley had of fought even a mere tune-up. Fact is, maybe that suit he wore for his little episode with Floyd might well have been from 1986....for good reason.

Not certain about any of you, but I'm not getting all up about this match-up given the fact Shane will have fifteen months of rust under his belt....and I haven't forgotten how stale he looked just a few short months before Margarito when he fought Mayorga.

[Bummy Davis]

The fact is Floyd is fighting Shane. Has it occured to anybody that maybe Gilligan and Skipper are working behind the scenes on Shane's behalf? Twelve million turned down for a rubber match with Oscar, the marked inability to do shit after the Margarito fight even though it would have been in the best interest of ALL concerned that Mosley had of fought even a mere tune-up. Fact is, maybe that suit he wore for his little episode with Floyd might well have been from 1986....for good reason.

Not certain about any of you, but I'm not getting all up about this match-up given the fact Shane will have fifteen months of rust under his belt....and I haven't forgotten how stale he looked just a few short months before Margarito when he fought Mayorga.

True

[lefthook31]

The fact is Floyd is fighting Shane. Has it occured to anybody that maybe Gilligan and Skipper are working behind the scenes on Shane's behalf? Twelve million turned down for a rubber match with Oscar, the marked inability to do shit after the Margarito fight even though it would have been in the best interest of ALL concerned that Mosley had of fought even a mere tune-up. Fact is, maybe that suit he wore for his little episode with Floyd might well have been from 1986....for good reason.

Not certain about any of you, but I'm not getting all up about this match-up given the fact Shane will have fifteen months of rust under his belt....and I haven't forgotten how stale he looked just a few short months before Margarito when he fought Mayorga.
Thats what happens when great fighters get a tad older. Their performances become less consistent, but he looked lost against Forrest when he was in his prime.

[Bill Butcher]

Faco-offs prove nothing, its all schoolgirl drama.....

Mayweather will beat Mosely IMO but I`ll be suprised if he does it easily.