When Is the Useless Tyson Fury going to step it up?

[newbridgeboxing]

Man this guy is slow awkward and nothing resembling the original Tyson,, hell a 43 year old Iron Mike would wipe the floor with this kid.

[themacallan]

as soon as he recovers from his uppercut he'll be right as rain and ready for combos.

[HairyHighlander]

Man this guy is slow awkward and nothing resembling the original Tyson,, hell a 43 year old Iron Mike would wipe the floor with this kid.


Bradley ?

[IntentionalButt]

Not on the Morris-Sykes undercard.

[Mr. V.I.P.]

He still running scared from McDermott ffs. Lucky to get to british level.

[ImElvis666]

Man this guy is slow awkward and nothing resembling the original Tyson,, hell a 43 year old Iron Mike would wipe the floor with this kid.
Who has ever said he resembles the original Tyson :lol:. He is nearly a foot taller than him! He is 21 so don't expect it to happen anytime soon. He won't make it beyond Euro level and that is assuming he seriously improves his skills.

[Mr. V.I.P.]

Who has ever said he resembles the original Tyson :lol:. He is nearly a foot taller than him! He is 21 so don't expect it to happen anytime soon. He won't make it beyond Euro level and that is assuming he seriously improves his skills.

The name?:patsch

[ImElvis666]

The name?:patsch
Oh Christ above. Forget about it :patsch

[Jack Dempsey]

Who has ever said he resembles the original Tyson :lol:. He is nearly a foot taller than him! He is 21 so don't expect it to happen anytime soon. He won't make it beyond Euro level and that is assuming he seriously improves his skills.

The real Tyson was HW champ at this age

[ImElvis666]

The real Tyson was HW champ at this age

Mike Tyson was a beast and a freak of nature. Tyson Fury is a nobody. It is not common place for boxers to step up at that age unless you are truly exceptional. The only thing exceptional thing about Tyson Fury is his ability to make people despise him. Why are people comparing them just because they have the same name. :?

[icemax]

Man this guy is slow awkward and nothing resembling the original Tyson,, hell a 43 year old Iron Mike would wipe the floor with this kid.

And Napoleon Solo is nothing like the original Bonaparte....your point is??:huh

[Jack Dempsey]

Mike Tyson was a beast and a freak of nature. Tyson Fury is a nobody. It is not common place for boxers to step up at that age unless you are truly exceptional. The only thing exceptional thing about Tyson Fury is his ability to make people despise him. Why are people comparing them just because they have the same name. :?

Yeah what we'd do for a HW like him in todays era

[SteelTownCobra]

I think from certain angles they look very similar.

[avidlemon]

fury will never step up

[TheGiftedOne]

Fury fought for the British HW title in his 8th fight at the age of 21 and some people still think he needs to be stepped up quicker :patsch

[avidlemon]

Fury fought for the British HW title in his 8th fight at the age of 21 and some people still think he needs to be stepped up quicker :patsch

it was the english HW mate. And the evidence was it was a step too far TBH, although he won. Anyone who saw the fight will know what i mean

[portside]

im afraid some of you boys will feel like chewing nails by the end of the year. tyson fought his last 3 fights with a back injury suffered in sparring last year.took away much of his movement and leverage on his punches. he d been in the hospital with it, fought the last few fights rammed full of pain killers. sorry to upset you s but stay tuned ,you heard it hear first. tyson will be brit champ by end of year and without much trouble.:good

[Mandanda]

Fury stepped up more then most fighters in his first 10 fights. Stopping people that beat other prospects over here. Ok he runs his gums a lot but the end of the day talk aside the lad has stepped up. He's a baby in heavyweight terms and lets face it he's offered him self to other fighters and they backed down.

He's coming back from injury and if he doesn't step it back up after his next fight then i will agree but imo the guy has done a lot more then some have in all there careers so far.

[portside]

he s boxing the face of top euro fighters in suarlands gym. this is a warm up for mcdermott, now he s injury free you,ll see a lot better fighter, he beleived he could beat all the uk heavy,s at half fitness, wich was over confidence bordering on foolishness. youth, wouldent listen to his team, infact changed them when they said rest.

[Flea Man]

Man this guy is slow awkward and nothing resembling the original Tyson,, hell a 43 year old Iron Mike would wipe the floor with this kid.

Are you fighting Yassine El Macchi next?

[DOM5153]

lets be fair to the guy hes working on his fitness and his skills, and has been getting good quality sparring.

[avidlemon]

Fury stepped up more then most fighters in his first 10 fights. Stopping people that beat other prospects over here. Ok he runs his gums a lot but the end of the day talk aside the lad has stepped up. He's a baby in heavyweight terms and lets face it he's offered him self to other fighters and they backed down.

He's coming back from injury and if he doesn't step it back up after his next fight then i will agree but imo the guy has done a lot more then some have in all there careers so far.

if he beats mcdermott, and convincingly next time, then he will start to sway some of the doubters, myself included. But until then....

[SteelTownCobra]

Although I believe he lost the McDermott fight I also believe he showed a lot of character that night which impressed me. He had to dig deep and cope with a lot of pressure from his opponent, something he hadn't previously had to do. He also lasted 10 rounds comfortably enough, although he looked shagged at the end, understandably.

I also give him credit for stepping up to fight for the English title at such an early stage of his career. He also has years of development ahead of him. He still has a lot of potential. I think he deserves a break.

[Flea Man]

I can't believe there are any doubters, what do they want from the lad?

-Fury had a pretty minor amateur career (in terms of amount of fights participated in)

-He's only a young lad.

-He has fought one of the top five domestic Heavys in the country within 10 fights and a year of turning pro.Okay, he didn't deserve the decision. But he proved his chin and most importantly, his heart. He was fucked, no stamina whatsoever, but he gritte his teeth even though he lacked the reflexes to step out of the way.

He has the size and natural toughness, everything else can be worked on. He isn't looking to be a particularly hard puncher, but that isn't the be and end all.I agree that he talks a lot of shit, but as long as we're not GENUINELY expecting him to be fighting for World titles as quick as he says, then how can we give him stick?

He's stepped it up quicker than say, Ajose :lol:

Fury isn't a Tyson-esque sensation. But to slag him off because he isn't living up to his name is f'n ridiculous. Coming from a fellow pro as well (not me, but the OP), I find that harsh to be honest.

[Boro chris]

Tyson has been stepped up in a perectly decent fashion for a fighter of his talent. Cant see the problem really.

[Mandanda]

if he beats mcdermott, and convincingly next time, then he will start to sway some of the doubters, myself included. But until then....
To be honest there's been plenty of fighters who have won controversial fights because there prospects and never gone back for seconds and gone on to have great careers. I would love him to beat Big John convincingly but i won't hold it against him if he doesn't go back to settle score.

[newbridgeboxing]

****Ignore this Post**** NOt Done by me

[SteelTownCobra]

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[avidlemon]

To be honest there's been plenty of fighters who have won controversial fights because there prospects and never gone back for seconds and gone on to have great careers. I would love him to beat Big John convincingly but i won't hold it against him if he doesn't go back to settle score.

what is doing my head in with the lad is not engaging his brain before he opens it, he is like a white audley sometimes to be honest, and maybe my judgement is being clouded by what i think of him out of the ring, more than what i think of him in the ring. However..
He showed a bit of heart with mcdermott, i'll accept that, and he is a big lad, which is always going to go for him.
But as much as he says he is dedictated to the sport, i have yet to see him come into the ring any where near what i would start to call acceptable shape. Granted there are other guys i could say the same about, mcdermott for example, but the top guys boring as they are, look in decent nick. I mean samuel peter, shit champion, and got shown up (i boring fashion granted) against klit, but klit came in conditioned, and peter didn't.

[billy boy balbo]

to be honest i think fury needs a wake up call like getting knocked out which will happen sooner or later,he says he would fight haye and the klitschkos but i think this kid needs to grow up ,maybe he should fight golota

[HairyHighlander]

What, that post?


:lol:

[SteelTownCobra]

to be honest i think fury needs a wake up call like getting knocked out which will happen sooner or later,he says he would fight haye and the klitschkos but i think this kid needs to grow up ,maybe he should fight galota
This galota fella sounds a bit dangerous to me.

[portside]

I can't believe there are any doubters, what do they want from the lad?

-Fury had a pretty minor amateur career (in terms of amount of fights participated in)

-He's only a young lad.

-He has fought one of the top five domestic Heavys in the country within 10 fights and a year of turning pro.Okay, he didn't deserve the decision. But he proved his chin and most importantly, his heart. He was fucked, no stamina whatsoever, but he gritte his teeth even though he lacked the reflexes to step out of the way.

He has the size and natural toughness, everything else can be worked on. He isn't looking to be a particularly hard puncher, but that isn't the be and end all.I agree that he talks a lot of shit, but as long as we're not GENUINELY expecting him to be fighting for World titles as quick as he says, then how can we give him stick?

He's stepped it up quicker than say, Ajose :lol:

Fury isn't a Tyson-esque sensation. But to slag him off because he isn't living up to his name is f'n ridiculous. Coming from a fellow pro as well (not me, but the OP), I find that harsh to be honest.to be fair he was entitled to criticisem on the form of his last 3 fights, but like i said he just wouldent listen, john mcdermott is a good fighter but he wont think he,s in with the same man this time.

[dom in sweden]

Some people know shit about boxing. First Tyson definately needs to work on his fitness and technique, no doubt. He needs to stop thinking he is a flyweight and work out how to make his size count.

But...there are some people who have never stepped into a ring for even one round of sparring and think they know what boxing is about. Tyson has been a pro for just over one year...ONE YEAR...and is 21 years old. Personally I think what he has done in that year is impressive.

Sure he runs his mouth and looks a bit stupid because he is putting on a bullshit act, but if people got in the ring and sparred a few rounds they would understand why...it takes balls to get in the ring, bad mouthing someone at the beginning of their career just makes you look like a twat.

[dan-b]

Hopefully McDermott knocks him out this time, so they can't rob him of the decision.

[TFFP]

Some people know shit about boxing. First Tyson definately needs to work on his fitness and technique, no doubt. He needs to stop thinking he is a flyweight and work out how to make his size count.

But...there are some people who have never stepped into a ring for even one round of sparring and think they know what boxing is about. Tyson has been a pro for just over one year...ONE YEAR...and is 21 years old. Personally I think what he has done in that year is impressive.

Sure he runs his mouth and looks a bit stupid because he is putting on a bullshit act, but if people got in the ring and sparred a few rounds they would understand why...it takes balls to get in the ring, bad mouthing someone at the beginning of their career just makes you look like a twat.
I think people are just calling a spade a spade. He ain't much good. Yes he's young and can refine things but you can't make a silk purse out of cow dung. He's not very co-ordinated, is he?

[mcguirpa]

I think people are just calling a spade a spade. He ain't much good. Yes he's young and can refine things but you can't make a silk purse out of cow dung. He's not very co-ordinated, is he?

I disagree, I think for a 6'9" bloke he moves pretty well. He puts some nice combinations together and despite what the naysayers say his conditioning ain't all that bad.

Truth is it's all relative. Fury isn't shit. There's plenty worse heavyweights out there, and shit fighters don't go in with 35 fight veteran domestic contenders in their 9th fight. Fair enough, he's most likely not going to dominate the division, but how many do?

[ApatheticLeader]

It's unlikely he'll dominate the division domestically....

[mcguirpa]

It's unlikely he'll dominate the division domestically....

Who's your pick to dominate the domestic heavyweight scene over the next 5-10 years?

[nip102]

he has fought better competition then wilder the next great yank hw

[ApatheticLeader]

he has fought better competition then wilder the next great yank hw
Well, no. Not really.

EDIT: Actually, yeah, he has. Also.....6'7 and 216lbs?! Damn the guy is thin.

That's Wilder, absolutely not Fury.

[mcguirpa]

he has fought better competition then wilder the next great yank hw

Yep.

Everyone seems to be coming in their pants over Wilder. Yet at the same stage of their careers Wilder has yet to fight anyone with a winning record. In fact, without looking at Boxrec I think he's only had one opponent with more then 5 fights.

And people are moaning Fury ain't stepping up.:think

[Ilesey]

I can't wait for this guy to get his ass handed to him again. McDermott was the clear winner last time and O'Conner should be fucking shot for his scoring of that fight, npot to mention other notable fuck ups.

He rubs me up the wrong way, Fury and I can't see him getting passed British level. Stick him in with Chisora and let the insults fly.

[Guy]

He's definitely not useless he's got a good array of shots and fast hands, although he doesn't seem to punch his weight but if he's been injured that might be why.:think

[HeavyT]

He's not that bad, he's just a tosser.

[NO MAS]

I think that Chisora will beat Fury...:yep

[Smurker]

He has done well so far, credit where it is due, he is still a puppy and into double figures for professional fights! His trash talk gets very annoying, it pisses me off but you should consider his background, to be a named fighter in the gypsy community you need to big yourself up. A gypsy fighter has to make himself out to be the best in his tribe, he also needs to back it up by taking on challengers, i look forward to T F's future.

[TFFP]

I disagree, I think for a 6'9" bloke he moves pretty well. He puts some nice combinations together and despite what the naysayers say his conditioning ain't all that bad.

Truth is it's all relative. Fury isn't shit. There's plenty worse heavyweights out there, and shit fighters don't go in with 35 fight veteran domestic contenders in their 9th fight. Fair enough, he's most likely not going to dominate the division, but how many do?
His movement is average, its only his handspeed that is any good. Besides, I'm talking about his lack of co-ordination. How many people punch themselves in a boxing ring? He can't time a punch worth shit when he's under pressure, the only time he ever looks good is when the opponent is scared and covering up, which is the majority of the time due to his competition.

[mcguirpa]

His movement is average, its only his handspeed that is any good. Besides, I'm talking about his lack of co-ordination. How many people punch themselves in a boxing ring? He can't time a punch worth shit when he's under pressure, the only time he ever looks good is when the opponent is scared and covering up, which is the majority of the time due to his competition.

Is most of this not just lack of experience though?

Fair enough about punching himself in the face, he's never going to live that down, but it's not like he does it all the time.

One thing he does need to sort out his his nervous tick that makes him blow his nose every 10 seconds. That's annoying as fcuk.

Anyways, I think he gets a rough time on this forum, especially for someone at the beginning of his career. I like the guy, I think he adds something to the British heavy scene. I really hope he comes on and makes a decent career for himself.

[p.Townend]

I think he will carry on much the same as he did last year throughout 2010.He is only young and i think the Mcdermott fight was a bit soon,he needs to take his time and develop more skills.

[kurt2006]

The thing is he is not developing at all and to be honest with you he never will develop. Its like a 1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1L, you can put alloy wheels on it and fancy car stereo but its always going to be an 89 Ford Fiesta.

He is the current equivalent of Roman Greenberg.