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Hopefully we don't get this at the expense of the Pavlik/Martinez and Bute/Miranda HBO double header the week after, but I'm not complaining...
LP_1985
03-09-2010, 01:38 PM
ideal
johna_83
03-09-2010, 01:41 PM
Good stuff, i'd prefer Pavlik-Martinez but i'm not complaining. So we'll have Haye-Ruiz, Berto-Quintana, Mayweather-Mosley and Khan-Paulie all on Sky within 5 weeks plus the 3 Primetime cards :yep
Sky seem to have a bit of a soft spot for Berto
wrimc
03-09-2010, 01:46 PM
sky doingnwell to pick up these cards imo
theuppercut
03-09-2010, 01:48 PM
Quality. I think Rigondeaux is on that card and Caballero too.
theuppercut
03-09-2010, 01:49 PM
If they pick up the card the week later I might just scream like a girl.
GazOC
03-09-2010, 01:50 PM
Sky seem to have a bit of a soft spot for Berto
They're not the only ones, he's getting the big build up from HBO.
EnglishWay
03-09-2010, 01:52 PM
fuck me. didnt expect sky to pick this up.
harvinmagler
03-09-2010, 01:57 PM
fucking yes, bolt out of the blue that one, well done sky
Sky fucking love Berto. They show all of his fights.
Beeston Brawler
03-09-2010, 02:05 PM
If it was a straight choice, I'd rather see Martinez/Pavlik..... but Berto vs Quintana is certainly an intriguing fight - if Quintana is on his game I wouldn't rule out an upset here.... if indeed it is an upset.
Credit to Sky anyway :happy
* Did I just say that..... :D
Hopefully more big fights, fuck off the shitty low level, boring fighter vs boring fighter domestic cards. Quality >>> quantity.
chrisfinch
03-09-2010, 02:13 PM
Sky fucking love Berto. They show all of his fights.
Yeah, they showed a few of his fights last year on a delayed Friday Fight Night for some reason.
It's good to see this on sky, as it seemed like only the mega fights would get shown here. Hopefully its the start of more fights like this being shown, but more realistically its just because its Berto.
EnglishWay
03-09-2010, 02:20 PM
If it was a straight choice, I'd rather see Martinez/Pavlik..... but Berto vs Quintana is certainly an intriguing fight - if Quintana is on his game I wouldn't rule out an upset here.... if indeed it is an upset.
Credit to Sky anyway :happy
* Did I just say that..... :D
Hopefully more big fights, fuck off the shitty low level, boring fighter vs boring fighter domestic cards. Quality >>> quantity.
more big fights would be great but theres no need to fuck off our domestic scene fights.
:good Glad to see that, im one of (apparently very few) Berto fans it seems.
Anyway im abit annoyed that they can confirm this fight but yet they cant bloody tell me if the Hopkins - Jones Jr rematch will be televised on the same night as the Haye fight!!! After i emailed them as well!!!! :fire
HitmanHatton
03-09-2010, 02:24 PM
Yeah, they showed a few of his fights last year on a delayed Friday Fight Night for some reason.
It's good to see this on sky, as it seemed like only the mega fights would get shown here. Hopefully its the start of more fights like this being shown, but more realistically its just because its Berto.
Yeah but I wouldnt say Berto is a mega world name, he isnt the same bracket as the Mayweathers, Mosleys, Pacquiaos of this world, so it could be a sign of things to come.
GazOC
03-09-2010, 02:35 PM
Yeah but I wouldnt say Berto is a mega world name, he isnt the same bracket as the Mayweathers, Mosleys, Pacquiaos of this world, so it could be a sign of things to come.
We do like clutching at straws if we think it could mean more boxing on TV. :D
Berto is an HBO "project", Sky are just following suit.
Beeston Brawler
03-09-2010, 02:35 PM
more big fights would be great but theres no need to fuck off our domestic scene fights.
I wouldn't change the amount of domestic fights shown, if so it would only be slightly less.
But there would be a block put on plenty of fighters and/or some fights that don't appeal to the public.
Sky have really upped their game (generally) by comparison to two years ago, but a few of their fights have been a bit of a let down.... some you could see coming (Hatton-N'Dou) and others you couldn't (Norton-Dolan II).
Given that Sky are the sole screener of boxing in Britain, they could really put their foot down and force a lot of potentially great fights to happen..... rather than the usual ''let's build the fight'' bullshit that seems to happen so much.
EnglishWay
03-09-2010, 02:41 PM
I wouldn't change the amount of domestic fights shown, if so it would only be slightly less.
But there would be a block put on plenty of fighters and/or some fights that don't appeal to the public.
Sky have really upped their game (generally) by comparison to two years ago, but a few of their fights have been a bit of a let down.... some you could see coming (Hatton-N'Dou) and others you couldn't (Norton-Dolan II).
Given that Sky are the sole screener of boxing in Britain, they could really put their foot down and force a lot of potentially great fights to happen..... rather than the usual ''let's build the fight'' bullshit that seems to happen so much.
leave Hatton-Ndou fight alone i was at ringside. :!:
hagman1989
03-09-2010, 02:43 PM
If they pick up the card the week later I might just scream like a girl.
i just did
chrisfinch
03-09-2010, 03:00 PM
I wouldn't change the amount of domestic fights shown, if so it would only be slightly less.
But there would be a block put on plenty of fighters and/or some fights that don't appeal to the public.
Sky have really upped their game (generally) by comparison to two years ago, but a few of their fights have been a bit of a let down.... some you could see coming (Hatton-N'Dou) and others you couldn't (Norton-Dolan II).
Given that Sky are the sole screener of boxing in Britain, they could really put their foot down and force a lot of potentially great fights to happen..... rather than the usual ''let's build the fight'' bullshit that seems to happen so much.
Yeah, I'd agree. In an ideal world, there would be slightly fewer shows that last for 3 hours or so on a saturday night-but realistically that probably won't happen.:-(
I think we'd probably agree that Maloney seems to put on the most FFN's (at least it feels like that) with some of his cards good, and some poor. Try and combine the two like he did with that show in bolton last year. Moore v Rhodes as the main event, then Edwards and Davis on the undercard and it was great. Just a shame sky gave it the regular two hours.
****** (sadly) does it quite well. He doesn't run as many shows these days, but the ones he does have tend to be quite crammed. As much as his PPV cards are a rip-off on sky (mainly down to them for not showing all of it), for the paying attendee they are pretty good.
Out of interest, do people think Khan v Malignaggi will be SBO? You'd presume so, but with Khan not being with FW any more perhaps not. However, surely a deal with 'Khan Promotions' would have PPV as a requirement.
Say the Mitchell v Katsidis fight is moved forward a week to the 15th, and stick Burns v Martinez on it as well and there's a dam good UK leg of a PPV there.
theuppercut
03-09-2010, 03:06 PM
I reckon Khan v Paulie will be ppv regardless. It's his American debut they'll promote the crap out of it. Sky Sports News will be on it like flies on shit etc etc Sky etc etc Sky
Beeston Brawler
03-09-2010, 03:09 PM
I don't blame the promoters, I blame the TV execs.
As you said.... Maloney put together Moore vs Rhodes, Davies vs Napa and another title fight, but they only showed the main event and highlights of the others - despite the main event lasting 7 rounds rather than 12.
Likewise on a box office show they say the old ''that's all we've got time for'' line, despite there being fuck all on until about 7am the following morning. Why not show the entire bloody card - minus commentary or whatever if necessary.
****** is doing pretty well, matching the youngsters up against domestic opposition with identities and form, rather than Maloney who seems to have a human trafficking racket going on from eastern Europe.
chrisfinch
03-09-2010, 03:15 PM
I reckon Khan v Paulie will be ppv regardless. It's his American debut they'll promote the crap out of it. Sky Sports News will be on it like flies on shit etc etc Sky etc etc Sky
Admittedly I haven't watched much SSN recently, but where the fuck is the 'flies on shit' stuff about Haye v Ruiz. It all seems to be about Pacquiao v Clottey (now) and Mosley v Mayweather (last week).
Seems very un-sky like to not be mentioning the Haye fight, it's less than a month away.
I guess after this weekend it'll be more of "YOU MUST BUY THE HAYE FIGHT", and "Here's Ed Robinson with an exclusive look inside haye's training camp" and Aled Jones going "It's a 50/50 fight" even though it'll probably be shit cos Ruiz is boring.
Great news but why can't Sky make a deal to show Top Rank cards like Latin Fury or Pinoy Power fights like Setanta.
I'm sure they don't charge the earth as it's a bit of a niche market but they could always expand on the boxing audience they already have by introducing them to exciting fighters like Gamboa, Donaire, Valero etc
****** is doing pretty well, matching the youngsters up against domestic opposition with identities and form, rather than Maloney who seems to have a human trafficking racket going on from eastern Europe.
Fair point :yep
theuppercut
03-09-2010, 03:19 PM
Great news but why can't Sky make a deal to show Top Rank cards like Latin Fury or Pinoy Power fights like Setanta.
I'm sure they don't charge the earth as it's a bit of a niche market but they could always expand on the boxing audience they already have by introducing them to exciting fighters like Gamboa, Donaire, Valero etc
They've missed a trick not showing the Gamboa - Lopez cards and bigging the potential fight up.
chrisfinch
03-09-2010, 03:19 PM
I don't blame the promoters, I blame the TV execs.
As you said.... Maloney put together Moore vs Rhodes, Davies vs Napa and another title fight, but they only showed the main event and highlights of the others - despite the main event lasting 7 rounds rather than 12.
Likewise on a box office show they say the old ''that's all we've got time for'' line, despite there being fuck all on until about 7am the following morning. Why not show the entire bloody card - minus commentary or whatever if necessary.
****** is doing pretty well, matching the youngsters up against domestic opposition with identities and form, rather than Maloney who seems to have a human trafficking racket going on from eastern Europe.
:lol:
Your on about "why not show the whole card"-and your right. Sky tend to film (and do commentary) of most of the fights on a bill, yet you usually only ever see two or three-so why not show it all?
It's criminal on PPV's, that start at say 6pm and don't come on air till 9. There is fuck all on that SBO channel apart from previews, so why not show all the stuff you are filming? You don't even need dave darts and co till 9, just have Darkie and Watt doing a brief hello at the start and then commentate on the fights. It's not going to cost them much more, if anything extra, but would make me a lot more inclined to buy the UK PPVs.
Beeston Brawler
03-09-2010, 03:39 PM
Exactly.
It would make the coverage that much better.
They could always alter the coverage depending on what time they wanted it to start, so the main event went out at the optimum time.
They've missed a trick not showing the Gamboa - Lopez cards and bigging the potential fight up.
Exactly they could even re-run the fights in the run up to that fight being made:good
fantastic. i like the way everything is on SS1 as well as thats all i'm currently paying for...it annoyed me when they seemed to randomly switch the boxing between different sky sports channels last year.
HitmanHatton
03-09-2010, 03:48 PM
:lol:
Your on about "why not show the whole card"-and your right. Sky tend to film (and do commentary) of most of the fights on a bill, yet you usually only ever see two or three-so why not show it all?
It's criminal on PPV's, that start at say 6pm and don't come on air till 9. There is fuck all on that SBO channel apart from previews, so why not show all the stuff you are filming? You don't even need dave darts and co till 9, just have Darkie and Watt doing a brief hello at the start and then commentate on the fights. It's not going to cost them much more, if anything extra, but would make me a lot more inclined to buy the UK PPVs.
Cant disagree with any of that mate, I was a bit disappointed with the Khan card last time out because I thought they would have shown the three Olympians live and mabye the Alex Arthur fight.
GazOC
03-09-2010, 03:48 PM
Exactly they could even re-run the fights in the run up to that fight being made:good
More chance of a 1 hour highlights special than getting the fights replayed IMHO.
leforge
03-09-2010, 03:51 PM
When will ****** next show be on sky after this weekend?
More chance of a 1 hour highlights special than getting the fights replayed IMHO.
Yeah you're probably right but even that would create a bit of background and excitement for your casual sky sports, bit of boxing fan.
The talents out there they just need to seize upon it and package the fighters and different rivalries.
LP_1985
03-09-2010, 03:57 PM
if they showed the whole card do u think the promoters wud ask for more money. not sure
Chinny
03-09-2010, 04:00 PM
We moan like bitches when they ignore stuff, so in the interests of balance
:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy
well done sky
GazOC
03-09-2010, 04:01 PM
Yeah you're probably right but even that would create a bit of background and excitement for your casual sky sports, bit of boxing fan.
The talents out there they just need to seize upon it and package the fighters and different rivalries.
Its a shame, the way to build these type of fights up is by gradually showing enough fights/ fighters so that when 2 of them meet sports fans have an idea who they are.
I'm realistic and don't expect Sky to show all the "B-level" cards live in order to hopefully build up a fight 2 years down the line but I don't think a weekly 2 hour magazine programme that could catch up with the best of the world action is too much to ask, and would help make casual fans appreciate fights like Gamboa-Lopez.
chrisfinch
03-09-2010, 04:02 PM
if they showed the whole card do u think the promoters wud ask for more money. not sure
Nah, you'd have thought they would prefer it that way, so more of their talent can be showcased-thus more chance of making money off them in the future.
HitmanHatton
03-09-2010, 04:05 PM
Its a shame, the way to build these type of fights up is by gradually showing enough fights/ fighters so that when 2 of them meet sports fans have an idea who they are.
I'm realistic and don't expect Sky to show all the "B-level" cards live in order to hopefully build up a fight 2 years down the line but I don't think a weekly 2 hour magazine programme that could catch up with the best of the world action is too much to ask, and would help make casual fans appreciate fights like Gamboa-Lopez.
When I first started getting into Boxing big time a bit back, Sky used to do a show called Ringside, that was a good show, whatever happened to that??
LP_1985
03-09-2010, 04:06 PM
Nah, you'd have thought they would prefer it that way, so more of their talent can be showcased-thus more chance of making money off them in the future.
yea but they cud also say that some people are tuning in to watch undercard fights AND main event so want more money. cant see the harm myself in showing the whole card but how would that effect ticket sales at the arena
GazOC
03-09-2010, 04:08 PM
When I first started getting into Boxing big time a bit back, Sky used to do a show called Ringside, that was a good show, whatever happened to that??
Thats exactly what I was thinking about mate, duuno why it got pulled.
Years ago even ITV and BBC prgrammes like World of Sport or GrandStand would take time to show us the "next big things" from America.
I'm realistic and don't expect Sky to show all the "B-level" cards live in order to hopefully build up a fight 2 years down the line but I don't think a weekly 2 hour magazine programme that could catch up with the best of the world action is too much to ask, and would help make casual fans appreciate fights like Gamboa-Lopez.
:good That would do the trick, is Bunce a naughty word down at Sky Towers?:lol:
HitmanHatton
03-09-2010, 04:12 PM
yea but they cud also say that some people are tuning in to watch undercard fights AND main event so want more money. cant see the harm myself in showing the whole card but how would that effect ticket sales at the arena
Maybe they could do cheaper tickets if they are getting a bit more money off Sky.
LP_1985
03-09-2010, 04:15 PM
Maybe they could do cheaper tickets if they are getting a bit more money off Sky.
in an ideal world but wud u travel to london manchester to watch the whole card or stay at home and watch the whole card. cudnt see ticket prices dropping tho
chrisfinch
03-09-2010, 04:26 PM
in an ideal world but wud u travel to london manchester to watch the whole card or stay at home and watch the whole card. cudnt see ticket prices dropping tho
Fair point, I think one of the attractions for going to the boxing for me is that it's better in person.
Unlike most sports, you see a hell of a lot more going in person than on TV. As good as it is to go to a big football or cricket match, you can sit in comfort at home watching, saving £100-odd quid, get loads of camera angles and commentary.
With boxing, you see so much more in person than on TV. Plus £30 for a great view at a typical 4 or 5 hour domestic FFN isn't bad value at all. Much rather that than a live main event, and a few highlights on TV.
But your right, I'd think twice about travelling long-ish distances if I could see the whole card on TV.
LP_1985
03-09-2010, 04:29 PM
Fair point, I think one of the attractions for going to the boxing for me is that it's better in person.
Unlike most sports, you see a hell of a lot more going in person than on TV. As good as it is to go to a big football or cricket match, you can sit in comfort at home watching, saving £100-odd quid, get loads of camera angles and commentary.
With boxing, you see so much more in person than on TV. Plus £30 for a great view at a typical 4 or 5 hour domestic FFN isn't bad value at all. Much rather that than a live main event, and a few highlights on TV.
But your right, I'd think twice about travelling long-ish distances if I could see the whole card on TV.
id preferv to watch in person but just think it mite make people think twice. i love when u get butterflies when ur watching a fighter u like. cant beat it
EnglishWay
03-10-2010, 12:35 PM
i would defo travel , its better watching it live in person and u get the whole atmosphere plus when i go on me travels i like to make a good whole day off it on the drink n that.
cant beat it.
Scottish
03-11-2010, 06:36 AM
This is very much not like Sky getting the fans a quality fight that they want to see and actually showing it live and not PPV.
chrisfinch
03-11-2010, 07:05 AM
This is very much not like Sky getting the fans a quality fight that they want to see and actually showing it live and not PPV.
Yeah, because Mayweather v Marquez, Pacquaio v Cotto and Pacquaio v Clottey were on PPV as well weren't they?:patsch
Scottish
03-11-2010, 07:09 AM
Yeah, because Mayweather v Marquez, Pacquaio v Cotto and Pacquaio v Clottey were on PPV as well weren't they?:patsch
Wow 2 quality fights in the past 10 months for almost £50 a month.
chrisfinch
03-11-2010, 07:13 AM
Wow 2 quality fights in the past 10 months for almost £50 a month.
Don't pay it then.:patsch Nobody is forcing you to.
I love how everybody complains about "how much sky is" and "what a rip-off" when nobody is holding them at gun point to pay it. Get Virgin, freesat or whatever instead.
Personally, I think your off your rocker if you pay £50 a month JUST to watch boxing, when alternative methods are so readily available. And I can't believe you would only watch boxing on sky, so your getting more than 2 quality fights in 10 months for £50 a month.:roll:
Scottish
03-11-2010, 07:15 AM
Don't pay it then.:patsch Nobody is forcing you to.
I love how everybody complains about "how much sky is" and "what a rip-off" when nobody is holding them at gun point to pay it. Get Virgin, freesat or whatever instead.
Personally, I think your off your rocker if you pay £50 a month JUST to watch boxing, when alternative methods are so readily available. And I can't believe you would only watch boxing on sky, so your getting more than 2 quality fights in 10 months for £50 a month.:roll:
What job do you do at Sky? :lol:
chrisfinch
03-11-2010, 07:18 AM
What job do you do at Sky? :lol:
Oh, aren't you the funny one.:lol:
Just, seriously tell me why you pay £50 a month to sky then?
Like I say, if you pay it just to watch 2 hours of mostly crap domestic boxing every week you are off your rocker. But I can't believe you ONLY watch boxing on there.
And if your so unhappy, just cancel.
Scottish
03-11-2010, 07:42 AM
Oh, aren't you the funny one.:lol:
Just, seriously tell me why you pay £50 a month to sky then?
Like I say, if you pay it just to watch 2 hours of mostly crap domestic boxing every week you are off your rocker. But I can't believe you ONLY watch boxing on there.
And if your so unhappy, just cancel.
I couldn't live without the football :rofl
I would still pay it even if they had no boxing tbh but maybe they would be better served showing less of the 90% garbage Friday Fight Night and getting some more quality American based fights live.
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