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Smudger
03-10-2010, 09:16 AM
On skybet... Fill your boots time :deal
The movable force meets the stoppable object. It's a bit like... A plastic football hitting a thin wooden fence. The plastic football (Paulie's fist) will do little to no damage to a granite kitchen surface (for example, Margarito's chin), and the thin wooden fence (Khan's chin) will hold little resistance to a sledgehammer hitting it (for example, Valero's fists). History has told me after years of playing in the garden with a plastic ball against a wooden fence, the fence will eventually give way and lose to the plastic ball via referee stoppage (mum comes out shouting to stop) or devastating KO with wood shattered all over the grass. The ball is still 100% healthy and playable, if a little marked up. So with that scientific experiment, I conclude Paulie 28/1 to KO Khan are excellent odds imo and should at least get a couple quid on.
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Beeston Brawler
03-10-2010, 09:22 AM
I prefer 16/1 KO/TKO from Sporting Bet.
In truth though.... I can't see Paulie stopping even Khan, he doesn't throw enough ''power'' punches - by that I mean hooks, straights and uppercuts, it's basically jab jab jab jab jab.
Malignaggi points at 5/1 is worthwhile.
ryanm8655
03-10-2010, 09:22 AM
I met put a fiver on it.
Doubt it will happen though...Khan will be moving in and out quickly and I don't think Malignaggi will land cleanly too often.
Dan684
03-10-2010, 09:23 AM
:rofl
28/1 is seriously worth a punt
ed7890
03-10-2010, 09:23 AM
Unlikely, but I might throw a fiver on it for the laugh
Looks good on paper, and probs chuck a 5er on it. If I can get Khan UD at anything above about 1.35 theres some going to be some cash going on it. All that will prevent the Khan UD is a garbage stoppage; Paulie can wear them well and I dont think his chin is cracked yet.
Beeston Brawler
03-10-2010, 09:28 AM
The 28/1 is KO though..... if Paulie TKO's Khan you lose.
Even when Khan was KO'd by Prescott he tried to get up, if Paulie decks him and Khan does a chicken dance and is waved off, it's a TKO.
Smudger
03-10-2010, 09:32 AM
Paulie could've knocked Diaz out if he didn't pull that incredible WTF face when he hurt him. He lands a similar uppercut to Khan's head and Khan's in trouble, when Khan has been hurt, he looses the plot and just rolls over.
I see your point Beeston Brawler. I wasn't thinking, the sight of 28/1 next to Paulie by KO against Khan got me all excited and wet in the underwear.
MagicMan91
03-10-2010, 09:34 AM
I really do think he can stop him. He wobbled Diaz badly and Diaz's chin is a million times better that Khans.
wrimc
03-10-2010, 09:35 AM
I was just about to mention paulies face vs Diaz absolutely hilarious he was so shocked that he had hurt him he actually threw the punch pulled away not expectin him to be hurt and then seeing that he was hurt was just shocked and sorta ws like right wt now i throw more punches???? Like he had never been in that situation before
Beeston Brawler
03-10-2010, 09:35 AM
I've not seen either Diaz fight, so have no idea.
Don't get me wrong it's a good bet.... a fiver is already wagered :hey
True, BB. All my online funds are tied up in a Pac win by any means vs Clottey and I got them in at better odds than Hop over Jones, Floyd over SSM and Haye over Ruiz.
Id be intersted to hear ESB punters views on AA v Direll though... What would you get some serious cash on AA by any means at?
ed7890
03-10-2010, 09:36 AM
I was just about to mention paulies face vs Diaz absolutely hilarious he was so shocked that he had hurt him he actually threw the punch pulled away not expectin him to be hurt and then seeing that he was hurt was just shocked and sorta ws like right wt now i throw more punches???? Like he had never been in that situation before
:lol: That was hilarious, but at the time I was screaming at the tv "HIT HIM AGAIN YOU IDIOT!!"
izmat
03-10-2010, 09:37 AM
Khan should retire if he get's KO'd by Paulie
wrimc
03-10-2010, 09:39 AM
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robpalmer135
03-10-2010, 09:39 AM
i put £50 on mallignaggi to stop hatton lol
Beeston Brawler
03-10-2010, 09:45 AM
True, BB. All my online funds are tied up in a Pac win by any means vs Clottey and I got them in at better odds than Hop over Jones, Floyd over SSM and Haye over Ruiz.
Id be intersted to hear ESB punters views on AA v Direll though... What would you get some serious cash on AA by any means at?
Yeah, I've loaded up a lot on Pacquiao win only..... I've got a sneaky feeling for a KO but odds aren't good enough, at less than even money.
Hopkins vs Jones isn't a fight I've given much thought to, just the same though can't see Hopkins losing to Jones.
Floyd will beat Mosley on points, and Haye will probably get rid of Ruiz late.
Dirrell vs Abraham is a tough fight to analyse. You don't know how the American judges are going to score, but the smart money would be on AA to be able to outpoint Dirrell as the fight progresses and maybe to force a stoppage, unless Dirrell gets on the bike.
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icemax
03-10-2010, 09:50 AM
No way that Paulies lays the KO on Khan, even Prescott couldn't do that
hagman1989
03-10-2010, 09:50 AM
i can see why youd be tempted but look at it logicly
1.khans game will be tight defence and short flurrys whilst moving in and out quickly with some side to side movement , so in short i dont see him getting hit with many power shots at all
2. even if malinagi lands a "bomb " i dont see it knocking khan out , malinaggi has little power and definatly not one punch power
3. i think khans chin has imroved slight;y just by keeping it keeping it tucked in nd not leaving out there t be hit , also moving to a far more comftable weight will also help his punch resistance
servo
03-10-2010, 09:57 AM
I agree with Hagman. I really don't see Malignaggi knocking Khan out. He really doesn't have enough and Khan has proved in the Kotelnik/Barrera fights that he can get in and out quickly.
Malignaggi is really susceptible to the left hook, as seen in the Diaz fight just above. He has been known to keep that left arm low.. and if Khan can get under his jab/hook then i think a left hook/then say a straight from Khan will do the trick. If he can't KO then it's a UD to Khan all day for me.
kosaros
03-10-2010, 10:09 AM
Khan isn't getting stopped and he isn't losing on points - Malignaggi is a hand-picked opponent and will be beaten on points very handily by Khan.
happydrinks
03-10-2010, 10:21 AM
the 100/1 round betting is more interesting to me due to how tired Amir got in the later rounds against Kotelnik.
NoHomeJerome
03-10-2010, 10:45 AM
If he caught him with that uppercut he landed on Diaz he can deffo knock Khan out. Don't forget, Khan was stiffened by a jab and stiffened by many feather fisted featherweights.
s23041983
03-10-2010, 01:15 PM
On skybet... Fill your boots time :deal
The movable force meets the stoppable object. It's a bit like... A plastic football hitting a thin wooden fence. The plastic football (Paulie's fist) will do little to no damage to a granite kitchen surface (for example, Margarito's chin), and the thin wooden fence (Khan's chin) will hold little resistance to a sledgehammer hitting it (for example, Valero's fists). History has told me after years of playing in the garden with a plastic ball against a wooden fence, the fence will eventually give way and lose to the plastic ball via referee stoppage (mum comes out shouting to stop) or devastating KO with wood shattered all over the grass. The ball is still 100% healthy and playable, if a little marked up. So with that scientific experiment, I conclude Paulie 28/1 to KO Khan are excellent odds imo and should at least get a couple quid on.
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:lol::lol::lol::good
paddycfc
03-10-2010, 01:22 PM
its worth sticking a few quid on at 28/1 but a dont really t think malinaggi will get the stoppage but a decent bet is points win look forward to the night
[quote=Smudger;6279721]Paulie could've knocked Diaz out if he didn't pull that incredible WTF face when he hurt him. He lands a similar uppercut to Khan's head and Khan's in trouble, when Khan has been hurt, he looses the plot and just rolls over.
Mate I wouldn't describe myself as a Khan fan but this is just plain wrong.
Ask Willie Limond if Khan rolls over once he's hurt.
Be fair, he's a brave lad.
icemax
03-10-2010, 01:32 PM
its worth sticking a few quid on at 28/1 but a dont really t think malinaggi will get the stoppage but a decent bet is points win look forward to the night
Its not for the stoppage, its for the KO
surreal deal
03-10-2010, 01:34 PM
On skybet... Fill your boots time :deal
The movable force meets the stoppable object. It's a bit like... A plastic football hitting a thin wooden fence. The plastic football (Paulie's fist) will do little to no damage to a granite kitchen surface (for example, Margarito's chin), and the thin wooden fence (Khan's chin) will hold little resistance to a sledgehammer hitting it (for example, Valero's fists). History has told me after years of playing in the garden with a plastic ball against a wooden fence, the fence will eventually give way and lose to the plastic ball via referee stoppage (mum comes out shouting to stop) or devastating KO with wood shattered all over the grass. The ball is still 100% healthy and playable, if a little marked up. So with that scientific experiment, I conclude Paulie 28/1 to KO Khan are excellent odds imo and should at least get a couple quid on.
:yep:lol::lol::lol::thumbsup
paddycfc
03-10-2010, 01:36 PM
Its not for the stoppage, its for the KO
k looking at khans defence in his last few fights under freddie roach hes looked decent and gets out the way of shots better and lookin at paulies last few fights especially the diaz second fight all tho he won he took a lot of shots look at round 12 of that fight they were toe to toe khan will defo not be doin any of that imo can only see paulie winnin on points
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That would put me even more off it Paulie clowned around for too long after that. Remember watching it and thinking wtf paulie hurt him :lol:
Flea Man
03-10-2010, 02:10 PM
Smudger, your opening post is funny as fuck pal.
It's worth a tenner as well. If Paulies punches will have some effect on anyone it'll be Khan.
I see no stylistic advantage for Paulie though, and the speed of Khans punches will see him visibly stunned at some point. I think he'll get stopped and protest, but in a far less convincing matter than when he was stupidly pulled out against Hatton, IMO anyway, he was hurt once in the 2nd and whilst bashed up, not hurt enough to justify pulling him out, unless of course it was a 'why stick around for six more minutes, we ain't won' which in case shows a shocking lack of faith in McGirt. I mean, didn't he feel his fighter had a punchers chance? :lol:
anyway, I'm gonna stick a tenner on it.
Mazallan
03-10-2010, 02:41 PM
I can not see Malinfaggi getting anything from this fight. Khan should stop him by half way.
NO MAS
03-10-2010, 03:10 PM
Khan should retire if he get's KO'd by Paulie
I love that avatar...:nut
NO MAS
03-10-2010, 03:11 PM
Amir Khan will box the ears off The Magic Man...:good
There is zero chance of Khan getting KTFO by powder puff Paulie.
fenoc1
03-10-2010, 05:04 PM
Amir Khan will box the ears off The Magic Man...:good:good
Smudger
03-10-2010, 05:38 PM
[quote=Smudger;6279721]Paulie could've knocked Diaz out if he didn't pull that incredible WTF face when he hurt him. He lands a similar uppercut to Khan's head and Khan's in trouble, when Khan has been hurt, he looses the plot and just rolls over.
Mate I wouldn't describe myself as a Khan fan but this is just plain wrong.
Ask Willie Limond if Khan rolls over once he's hurt.
Be fair, he's a brave lad.
Yeah mate, I didn't mean he just rolls over into submission, not sure why I even put he just rolls over, I meant whenever he gets hurt he does seem to panic and as a result get knocked down. Just wrong wording :good
Anyway, I was just pointing out the wide odds. I think everyone agrees, especially with Khan's jaw very questionable, that it's worth putting some...
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WONGA!!!!...
on it :good
Lazarus
03-10-2010, 05:49 PM
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Yeah mate, I didn't mean he just rolls over into submission, not sure why I even put he just rolls over, I meant whenever he gets hurt he does seem to panic and as a result get knocked down. Just wrong wording :good
Anyway, I was just pointing out the wide odds. I think everyone agrees, especially with Khan's jaw very questionable, that it's worth putting some...
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WONGA!!!!...
on it :good
Did you see the Kotelnik fight? Khan took quite a few flush punches. - Go to the beggining of round 12 in the Kotelnik-Khan fight. Khan get's hit straight on the chin and took it.
Smudger
03-10-2010, 05:58 PM
Yeah I don't remember the fight much, but I do remember him taking a few shots. Were they on the chin? Coz a lot of Amir's KD's have come from getting hit on the top of his head. Also Kotelnik isn't a big puncher, but I guess that comment is void seeing as he's fighting Paulie :lol:
Darni187
03-10-2010, 06:37 PM
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9:07 Kotelnik lands bang on the chin clean, Paulie dont punch any harder than that in my view.
johna_83
03-10-2010, 07:01 PM
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9:07 Kotelnik lands bang on the chin clean, Paulie dont punch any harder than that in my view.
The best thing about that video at 5:40 is tony bellew totally neglecting his commentary duties and bellowing at khan 'the fights won amir just box!!" :lol:
gotta love bomber
kosaros
03-10-2010, 07:06 PM
that was a rubbish fight he gets so much sunshine blown up his ass i'd have imagined he'd have KO'd this bum in 7 rounds or at the very least landed sharper shots rather then the pitter patter BS, My Boi Bradley would crack that skull in 2 rounds Ameer is just a paper champ :-(
Fucking shut up. Kotelnik was, and still is IMO, a world class light-welter and Khan was never going to knock him out (in his previous fight he took everything Maidana had to offer and has never been floored or stopped in the pros).
kosaros
03-10-2010, 07:09 PM
The best thing about that video at 5:40 is tony bellew totally neglecting his commentary duties and bellowing at khan 'the fights won amir just box!!" :lol:
gotta love bomber
:lol: I just watched that bit and it scared the fucking shit out of me! Didn't expect him to be that loud :yep
johna_83
03-10-2010, 07:11 PM
that was a rubbish fight he gets so much sunshine blown up his ass i'd have imagined he'd have KO'd this bum in 7 rounds or at the very least landed sharper shots rather then the pitter patter BS, My Boi Bradley would crack that skull in 2 rounds Ameer is just a paper champ :-(
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Thank fuck for wiki.
In all seriousness try and go one post without calling a fighter a bum, its getting a bit old now
kosaros
03-10-2010, 07:15 PM
No You Shut The Shit Up
:huh
johna_83
03-10-2010, 07:16 PM
:huh
street flavour :deal
Darni187
03-10-2010, 08:50 PM
that was a rubbish fight he gets so much sunshine blown up his ass i'd have imagined he'd have KO'd this bum in 7 rounds or at the very least landed sharper shots rather then the pitter patter BS, My Boi Bradley would crack that skull in 2 rounds Ameer is just a paper champ :-(
You the man White powder :good
Way to go buddy :good
that was a rubbish fight he gets so much sunshine blown up his ass i'd have imagined he'd have KO'd this bum in 7 rounds or at the very least landed sharper shots rather then the pitter patter BS, My Boi Bradley would crack that skull in 2 rounds Ameer is just a paper champ :-(
Not too many fighters deal with Kotelnik the way Khan did,so catch yourself on mate. Andriy is no
way a bum he is eaily a top 20 fighter even after this loss.
Also too those yamering on about Khans chin because Kotelnik caught him watch Witter Vs Kotelnik he caught Witter coming in with his chin hanging a few times and Witter shrug his power off he isn't a big puncher.
TheUzi
03-10-2010, 09:29 PM
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Did you see the Kotelnik fight? Khan took quite a few flush punches. - Go to the beggining of round 12 in the Kotelnik-Khan fight. Khan get's hit straight on the chin and took it.
Wow!!!! Khan gets hit once on the chin by a man with 13 stoppages in 31 wins and he took it. Yes he took it.
Even if Paulie stops him, his fans will no doubt be calling for him to move to Welterweight. This will continue as he moves up the weights suffering ko after ko until a heavyweight does it.
Only then will his fans admit defeat and urge him to retire. All except Darni who will lead the campaign for a new Super Heavyweight division.
icemax
03-11-2010, 03:53 AM
My Boi Bradley would crack that skull in 2 rounds Ameer is just a paper champ :-(
Your boy Bradley barely got past a disinterested and weight drained Witter...he does what he does very well, but what he does is very limited indeed.
Dan684
03-11-2010, 04:03 AM
Ice, who's the gypo in the avatar ?? :yep
icemax
03-11-2010, 04:50 AM
Ice, who's the gypo in the avatar ?? :yep
That is my GGrandfather Ozzy...you cheeky cunt, but good spot :deal...he was killed in Northern France in 1915
Dan684
03-11-2010, 04:54 AM
Oh right. See that hair style (shaved head with fringe kept) was pretty popular with kids around ours in the late 90's :lol:
How's the caravan ? :rofl
icemax
03-11-2010, 06:30 AM
Oh right. See that hair style (shaved head with fringe kept) was pretty popular with kids around ours in the late 90's :lol:
The photo is part of a group shot of the 28th Division boxing team in 1901...the haircut was popular then as it discouraged lice infection
How's the caravan ? :rofl
I shall treat that comment with the disdain it requires...but good, thank you for asking:thumbsup
Dan684
03-11-2010, 06:37 AM
Ha Ha, sorry pal, only jesting
izmat
03-11-2010, 07:12 AM
Wow!!!! Khan gets hit once on the chin by a man with 13 stoppages in 31 wins and he took it. Yes he took it.
Even if Paulie stops him, his fans will no doubt be calling for him to move to Welterweight. This will continue as he moves up the weights suffering ko after ko until a heavyweight does it.
Only then will his fans admit defeat and urge him to retire. All except Darni who will lead the campaign for a new Super Heavyweight division.
Weren't you backing a Kotelnik TKO/KO win over Khan in the past?
I'm a Khan fan and think Khan should retire if he loses to Mallignagi by KO.
No weight draining excuses from me!
Dan684
03-11-2010, 07:36 AM
judge: Franco Ciminale 115-112 | judge: Omar Mintun 113-114 | judge: Daniel Van de Wiele 113-115 ~
Idiot :good
TheUzi
03-11-2010, 11:41 AM
Weren't you backing a Kotelnik TKO/KO win over Khan in the past?
I'm a Khan fan and think Khan should retire if he loses to Mallignagi by KO.
No weight draining excuses from me!
Yes I backed Kotelnik for the stoppage,will do so on any fighter he faces ... Khan fought well that night mind you.
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