View Full Version : Peter = glass jaw
elTerrible
10-07-2007, 12:15 AM
Ha ha what a joke, almost KOed by feather fisted McCline:rofl
mattress
10-07-2007, 12:19 AM
If he's the next big thing on the heavyweight scene then the division is fucked big time.
brooklyn1550
10-07-2007, 12:19 AM
He doesn't have a glass jaw...
Wladimir ruined his chin
:lol: :good :lol:
Wladimir ruined his chin
Gimme a fucking break man. I'm pretty happy about Peter's pathetic display tonight because I really don't like the guy, but enough is enough. Klitschko ran his ass of from that pathetic, talentless, lumbering piece of garbage until he was gassed then Wlad caught him with a few hard shots late, yet still couldn't drop him despite the fact that Peter was dead tired. Sorry, but you don't get to rip Peter apart for his performance and still give Wlad credit for beating him. That fight was almost as ugly as what we saw tonight.
People need to wake up and realize what a joke the HW division is.
Asterion
10-07-2007, 12:46 AM
People need to wake up and realize what a joke the HW division is.
Actually it is pretty competitive and exciting.
Actually it is pretty competitive and exciting.
I like most of your posts man, but I'll choose to respectfully disagree with you on this point. There are bunch of talentless jokes, fat slobs and guys who just wouldn't be anywhere near title contention in almost any other era running around in the top twenty, and to top it off there are about 2/3 meaningful fights in the division, if that, a year. I was honestly looking forward to Peter/Maskaev and Vitali coming back, but noooooooo I got to watch this shit fest instead. Did McCline deserve an interim title shot? I thought he was a tune up for Vitali's comeback. I suppose Peter could be given some credit for surviving the third round, but that fight was embarrassing to watch. WTF happened to skilled big men? Wake me up when there's a unification and Wlad can finally (hopefully) establish himself. The fact that Fat Toney managed to get himself in the HW picture based solely on his remaining skills should have been a tip off.
Zakman
10-07-2007, 01:07 AM
Peter's chin isn't glass - but what we found out tonight is that it ain't granite, either. :nod
Still, I'm impressed he survived at all. That alone proves his chin isn't utter china.
Guys with glass jaws get laid out cold, like Fraudley. :nod
K_Ologist
10-07-2007, 01:19 AM
I was honestly looking forward to Peter/Maskaev and Vitali coming back, but noooooooo I got to watch this shit fest instead. Did McCline deserve an interim title shot? I thought he was a tune up for Vitali's comeback.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your entire post, just this part. Both Oleg and Vitali pulled up lame and Peter and Jameel both needed opponents. I thought it was a good job saving a fight card for the fans and businesses involved. Probably should have been a 10 rd special attraction fight, but networks, promoters, and sanctioning bodies would all see less money. I'm not happy with the state of the division, but the show must go on.
IntentionalButt
10-07-2007, 03:11 AM
Ha ha what a joke, almost KOed by feather fisted McCline:rofl
Feather fisted 260 pound McCline. :think
maciek4
10-07-2007, 03:23 AM
I always thought Mccline had a big punch, its just that he has such a poor stamina that he doesnt commit to his punches out of fear that he will gass to quick and embarrass himself. But on those rare occasions when he commits he has scary power actually.
IntentionalButt
10-07-2007, 03:25 AM
I always thought Mccline had a big punch, its just that he has such a poor stamina that he doesnt commit to his punches out of fear that he will gass to quick and embarrass himself. But on those rare occasions when he commits he has scary power actually.
nail on the head :good
Stinky gloves
10-07-2007, 03:38 AM
He is getting around with stronger competition so his chin is tested more and more.
It will come time somebody KO him soon ...
IntentionalButt
10-07-2007, 03:39 AM
He is getting around with stronger competition so his chin is tested more and more.
It will come time somebody KO him soon ...
In a rematch with Wlad, I would put money on an early conclusion before I put money on either fighter. :yep Either could be stopped.
El Bombasto
10-07-2007, 04:03 AM
I always thought Mccline had a big punch, its just that he has such a poor stamina that he doesnt commit to his punches out of fear that he will gass to quick and embarrass himself. But on those rare occasions when he commits he has scary power actually.
mccline is not a big pucher; but he was a solid, last minute replacement with nothing to lose, he stood-up to peter and, wouldn't you know it, the shield of hype just disapeared. sam can expect tough fights from here on out, because no one's buying into this bs anymore. what's of even more interest to me is how this fight will affect his confidence, and if peter will change his approach in future fights.
Tom_Tocca
10-07-2007, 04:13 AM
Chagaev to uppercut his way tru Peter :deal
2smart4u
10-07-2007, 05:36 AM
Peter's chin isn't glass - but what we found out tonight is that it ain't granite, either. :nod
Still, I'm impressed he survived at all. That alone proves his chin isn't utter china.
Guys with glass jaws get laid out cold, like Fraudley. :nod:patsch The right punch landed at the right time ! Nothing more or less !
Max Molyneux
10-07-2007, 05:38 AM
The way Zakman puts down Ruiz for faking low blows and fouling In ways of holding but doesn't mention Peter's back of the head tatics.
Fraudley beat Peter In the amatuers once too.
Butch Coolidge
10-07-2007, 07:10 AM
Some reports say the first punch Peter went down from was a blow to the neck.
Who was the referee in this fight, Stevie Wonder?
Tom_Tocca
10-07-2007, 07:18 AM
Some reports say the first punch Peter went down from was a blow to the neck.
Who was the referee in this fight, Stevie Wonder?
I think it landed exactly on the left side of his jaw...plus the camera angle didn't allow a clear view on the action...
Even if it was behind the neck - so what?...Peter would just have tasted some of his own medicine from his fight vs. Wlad...
bachatu
10-07-2007, 07:19 AM
Peter's chin isn't glass - but what we found out tonight is that it ain't granite, either. :nod
Still, I'm impressed he survived at all. That alone proves his chin isn't utter china.
Guys with glass jaws get laid out cold, like Fraudley. :nod
IM shocked he went down. I wonder if it was for his inactivity in the ring and him perhaps having some chin rust. From what we've seen in the past, and his ability to get up in this fight and continue shows his chin isn't made in china, but perhaps in Korea or India? Its definitely not made in Japan.
Tom_Tocca
10-07-2007, 07:21 AM
IM shocked he went down. I wonder if it was for his inactivity in the ring and him perhaps having some chin ring rust. From what we've seen, his ability to get up and continue shows his chin wasnt assemble in china, but perhaps in Korea or India. Its definitely not made in Japan.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Butch Coolidge
10-07-2007, 07:29 AM
Klitschko had SP hurt with a 45 and McCline did it with an upper. I am starting to suspect a John Tate situation going on here.
Danny Ocean
10-07-2007, 07:34 AM
In a rematch with Wlad, I would put money on an early conclusion before I put money on either fighter. :yep Either could be stopped.
klitschko wouldnt stop peter early he fights to negative and doesnt throw enough rights to stop any top 10 heavy early
Tom_Tocca
10-07-2007, 07:36 AM
Klitschko had SP hurt with a 45 and McCline did it with an upper. I am starting to suspect a John Tate situation going on here.
Peter keeps his left way too low and don't cover his chin fast enough after a jab of his own...a lefty with a sneaky right hook will put him to sleep...that is peter's weak spot...
ChampionsForever
10-07-2007, 07:37 AM
I thought it might be a points win for Peter after seeing Mccline survive for so long with Wlad, but nobody expected 3 KDs, I havent seen the fight can anybody post it?? ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
bachatu
10-07-2007, 07:45 AM
Klitschko is too scared to engage with a big puncher. It showed in their first fight where it was a klinsch fest. I dont see how anyone can really like a guy who fights like he is scared, especially a big guy with a solid build, I personally cannot tolerate that. If you are in the ring, be a man, fight with confidence.
hitman_hatton1
10-07-2007, 07:47 AM
If he's the next big thing on the heavyweight scene then the division is fucked big time.
he's never been the next big thing in the division.
so he beat an out of shape toney.
big deal. :roll:
wladimir klitschko is the best while his brother still waits to get fit.
vitali klitschko is the best if he can get himself fit. :patsch
hitman_hatton1
10-07-2007, 07:48 AM
Klitschko is too scared to engage with a big puncher. It showed in their first fight where it was a klinsch fest. I dont see how anyone can really like a guy who fights like he is scared, especially a big guy with a solid build, I personally cannot tolerate that. If you are in the ring, be a man, fight with confidence.
u can't blame wlad for those cautious tactics.
fighting more openly has cost wlad before hasn't it. :yep
he takes less risks so he doesn't risk that china chin of his.
The Kurgan
10-07-2007, 07:52 AM
:rofl
Rematch! Rematch!
:lol:
The Kurgan
10-07-2007, 07:54 AM
Wait a tick: does this make McCline a harder hitter than Wlad? :shock:
bachatu
10-07-2007, 08:02 AM
u can't blame wlad for those cautious tactics.
fighting more openly has cost wlad before hasn't it. :yep
he takes less risks so he doesn't risk that china chin of his.
I blame him, because its not entertaining and it looks gay. I don't see how anyone can encourage that type of behavior in the ring. Running around like a 8 yr old girl getting away from the school boys the sand box. At least his brother had some cajones and would come to fight.
hitman_hatton1
10-07-2007, 08:11 AM
I blame him, because its not entertaining and it looks gay. I don't see how anyone can encourage that type of behavior in the ring. Running around like a 8 yr old girl getting away from the school boys the sand box. At least his brother had some cajones and would come to fight.
wlad ain't completely boring with it though.
cos he can crack a wallop and has some good skills. :yep
ralphc
10-07-2007, 08:41 AM
Peter's chin isn't glass - but what we found out tonight is that it ain't granite, either. :nod
Still, I'm impressed he survived at all. That alone proves his chin isn't utter china.
Guys with glass jaws get laid out cold, like Fraudley. :nod
Did you notice that it was Sam Peter's chin that is vulnerable? When Klitschko gave Peter a beating, he was bouncing his fist off everything except his chin. If you want to knockout Peter the best way to do it is with uppercuts. He has is mouth open from fatigue which makes his chin more vulnerable.
Tom_Tocca
10-07-2007, 08:50 AM
Did you notice that it was Sam Peter's chin that is vulnerable? When Klitschko gave Peter a beating, he was bouncing his fist off everything except his chin. If you want to knockout Peter the best way to do it is with uppercuts. He has is mouth open from fatigue which makes his chin more vulnerable.
I say right hook (I explained it before) and therefore Ruslan Chagaev is the best man to get the job done...
The Kurgan
10-07-2007, 09:18 AM
cos he can crack a wallop
Not as hard as McCline.
Nokstar
10-07-2007, 10:01 AM
lol i see people dont know what having a glass chin even means. If u get knocked down 3 times and still come back and win..you have a GREAT CHIN. He was able to recover from some very hard shots....and be right back to normal the very next round..that is a GOOD CHIN...
cross_trainer
10-07-2007, 10:05 AM
Peter's chin isn't glass - but what we found out tonight is that it ain't granite, either. :nod
Still, I'm impressed he survived at all. That alone proves his chin isn't utter china.
Guys with glass jaws get laid out cold, like Fraudley. :nod
Peter is an utter FRAUD. :nod
He was floored THREE TIMES by feather-fisted McCline. :yep
That's even worse than china-chinned Brock! It's only the SHAMEFUL role of Don King that allowed this glass-chinned fraud to get a title shot. I guess connections are a big help if you don't have the gift of chin. :yep
Peter's chin is GRADE A CHINA. :nod
(kidding)
swedeone
10-07-2007, 11:07 AM
This is the dumbest thread I have read in a LONG time. C'mon haters, give us all a break. Peter has a very good chin or else he wouldn't have made it back up from those shots and won every round after. :good
Was his chin knocked down a peg from the granite label?... yep. I wonder how Wlad would have taken those shots IF HE DID TAKE THEM. (I know people would instantly answer "well... Wlad would have never been in that position as he would have knocked McCline out in the first round blah blah blah...). I'm on record as saying that Wlad wouldn't have been able to take those shots and would have been knocked out. :yep
Vantage_West
10-07-2007, 11:34 AM
Feather fisted 260 pound McCline. :thinkknocking down brock and byrd who are far from china chins.
the truth is that mcCline isnt aggresive enough he has handspeed has power and has wieght and hieght and a decent reach but just doesnt let his hands go or try and push guys back..he also has dodgy stamina after 6 roundshe becomes so passive.
against byrd. he totally bullied him to the ropes until he just puffed out and byrd went out at him.
brock fiught was similar aswell he dd alright then puff out and wham.
to be honest mcCline wouldnt of knocked peter out in the 12th...so is it a weak chin or a untapped puncher.
i go with the 2nd. rocked by toney and wlad and could stay upright.not a weak chin but not a granite either.
Dorfmeister
10-07-2007, 12:01 PM
I like most of your posts man, but I'll choose to respectfully disagree with you on this point. There are bunch of talentless jokes, fat slobs and guys who just wouldn't be anywhere near title contention in almost any other era running around in the top twenty, and to top it off there are about 2/3 meaningful fights in the division, if that, a year. I was honestly looking forward to Peter/Maskaev and Vitali coming back, but noooooooo I got to watch this shit fest instead. Did McCline deserve an interim title shot? I thought he was a tune up for Vitali's comeback. I suppose Peter could be given some credit for surviving the third round, but that fight was embarrassing to watch. WTF happened to skilled big men? Wake me up when there's a unification and Wlad can finally (hopefully) establish himself. The fact that Fat Toney managed to get himself in the HW picture based solely on his remaining skills should have been a tip off.
I will opt to wisely respect the moderators, but I can only agree with Thom disagreeing with Asterion. I tell you more, Thom, there's no doubt in my mind that there is dirty money under the table and little mobster games in da backstage, things like Vitaly being given an emeritus status to start his comeback where he left off - injured - same thang with Oleg Maskaev who only made one successful title defense against some Japanese based Ugandan Peter Okhello ( probably the most meaningless WBC HWT title fight in quite some years side by side with the Rahman-Toney snore-fest)... Hwts like Toney and Betchelder have to juice up for a stupid fight nobody cares about, Toney and Rahman are a complete disrespect to all other pro athletes in the game and both Briggs and McCline are very close to the former, Golota, McCall, Gomez, Ruiz, they're all largely un-heralded and un-charismatic... I don't see any aura in the "Eastern Block" fighters, they all look dreadful and now Peter ironically takes the medicine he provided Wlad with, 3 f***in knock-downs and still wins the fight? McCline should hang em up just for dat s***! I believe there are skilled guys like Byrd and Wlad but one is feather fisted and the other doesn't have a fighting heart... Thom, I will give ya a ring call when some meaningful ( but still idiotic) unification fight happens in the heavies, something like a static Olympic sword fight style, jab/counter jab type with Wlad and Tony Thompson. Keep debating about these guys that I will continue to enjoy great fighters displays in other divisons.
I always thought Mccline had a big punch, its just that he has such a poor stamina that he doesnt commit to his punches out of fear that he will gass to quick and embarrass himself. But on those rare occasions when he commits he has scary power actually.
That's exactly what it is. It was funny after the fight how Sam Peter tried to say he slipped and those were the reason's he got knocked down :yep :yep
u can't blame wlad for those cautious tactics.
fighting more openly has cost wlad before hasn't it. :yep
he takes less risks so he doesn't risk that china chin of his.
Oh shit a familiar face what's good main???
Wlad could be the Pac-Man of the heavyweight division if he wasn't so damn scared to be hit because he's powerful enough to just go out there and do damage but he also has had stamina issue's it's more than the chin.
jecxbox
10-07-2007, 12:14 PM
Cmon people yall need to realize something..He just fought James Toney and he lost in the first fight...Forced to fight Toney again both defensive fights against a natural 160-168lber who has NO power at 200lbs!!!...Peter musta forgot what real heavyweights punch like because they sure as hell don't punch like James Toney!!! He took tons of leather against Wlad, But his chin has not been tested in a REAL long time, basically his chin had not been tested since he fought Wlad. His chin had a bit of ring rust.
elTerrible
10-07-2007, 02:18 PM
I thought it might be a points win for Peter after seeing Mccline survive for so long with Wlad, but nobody expected 3 KDs, I havent seen the fight can anybody post it?? ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
It was pretty unexpected the way it played out.
Peter got knocked down at the end of the 2nd. I didnt think he was hurt. He got up fine and went to his corner. His feet were both side by side and McCline caught him with a uppercut in close. It looked like he fell from bad balance.
Then in the 3rd he gets dropped twice and each time he got up, he was staggering bad, the ref was watching him closely to make sure he could continue.
As the fight when on, McCline tired and was breathing heavy. Peter won on activity down the stretch. I didnt keep track of rounds but I think Peter won enough to get the decision.
McCline showed a good chin, he took a lot of Peters shots flush and kept going.
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