Marquez, going to eat Pacman

[Robbi]

Marquez is better than Pacquiao and Barrera. I came to this conlusion about 3-4 years ago. He beat them both in my opinion.

He's a better all round techincal fighter than them both, and I'm hoping Marquez gets a shot at Pacfraud.

However, only one thing concerns me about the master of the ring, Marquez. He can be dropped and hurt. Lets hope he gives Pacfraud a lesson again, and Marquez beats him more convincingly than the the terrible draw when they first fought.

[41fever]

I really think PAC will get hurt bad by JMM...@130 Juan is a beast.

[Jersey Boxer]

I hope this fight happens next...I mean who else is there??? If Pac wants to prove that he is the best he's gotta stand and fight Marquez again...otherwise everyone is gonna bitch and say that hes ducking him...

[4Rounder]

If Marquez can still keep up with Pacquiao he is going to kick his ass. Barrera was able to land big rights on Pacquiao on several occasions, JMM will be doing that in every round and land his left hook.

This fight better happen in early 2008, it has to happen.

[KobeIsGod]

id favor pac slightly but he clearly seems to be losing that killer instinct.

[Robbi]

Marquez has become more flat-footed over the last year. However, he's even better than Barrera. His style matches up better against Pacman. I would like to see Marquez get revenge. He deserves it.

Marquez gave Pacman a lesson after getting floored three times in the first round, then losing the 2nd round as well. He came back and owned Pacman for 10 rounds, excluding one round.

[Toopretty]

Pac cant kill something that aint there to be killed. Barrera was moving the whole fight..Manny could not get into a groove. He still won..Marquez is a different guy. We all know that Marquez has what it takes to beat Manny but that is a true 50/50 fight if I could ever see one. Not betting material. I would have to take serious thought into analyzing that fight.

[Raden]

Marquez is nothing to Pac like Barrera and Morales..period.

[johnco]

Marquez is better than Pacquiao and Barrera. I came to this conlusion about 3-4 years ago. He beat them both in my opinion.

He's a better all round techincal fighter than them both, and I'm hoping Marquez gets a shot at Pacfraud.

However, only one thing concerns me about the master of the ring, Marquez. He can be dropped and hurt. Lets hope he gives Pacfraud a lesson again, and Marquez beats him more convincingly than the the terrible draw when they first fought.


let me spank your pea brain about pac-jmm...

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who got his lesson again?? :lol: :lol:

[Spit Bucket]

If Marquez can still keep up with Pacquiao he is going to kick his ass. Barrera was able to land big rights on Pacquiao on several occasions, JMM will be doing that in every round and land his left hook.

This fight better happen in early 2008, it has to happen.

one more thing that concerns me is IF marquez has more power than barrera coz if he doesnt...just by looking at how BIG pac has become at 130 i dont think you need much thinking if you have pacs natural talents to beat a guy like JMM (thats only my opinion though)...i think PAC should just bull rush marquez coz if pac decides to THINK i really think hes gonna lose against JMM(lots of thinking lol)

[Toopretty]

Anyone that say Marquez most definitely beats Pac is a retard.. Marquez is more stationary and looks for a fight more now and no longer is that slick boxer. He is a damned good counter puncher but Barrera could not counter shit and Once Manny realized Barrera could not counter him b/c of his quickness he got a little lazy. MANNY IS A MUCH IMPROVED DEFENSIVE FIGHTER. He gets out of the way quick and damned for sure keeps his left hand up now..to block right hands..his body is open as Barrera was able to left hook him around his elbows...Marquez does not throw that punch..Marquez is a beast up the middle with hard uppercut counters and that left hook that is short and tight...this is a good fight with no clear winner.

[chimba]

Anyone that say Marquez most definitely beats Pac is a retard.. Marquez is more stationary and looks for a fight more now and no longer is that slick boxer. He is a damned good counter puncher but Barrera could not counter shit and Once Manny realized Barrera could not counter him b/c of his quickness he got a little lazy. MANNY IS A MUCH IMPROVED DEFENSIVE FIGHTER. He gets out of the way quick and damned for sure keeps his left hand up now..to block right hands..his body is open as Barrera was able to left hook him around his elbows...Marquez does not throw that punch..Marquez is a beast up the middle with hard uppercut counters and that left hook that is short and tight...this is a good fight with no clear winner.

yOURE VERY SMART CHECK MY POST GIVE PAC CREDIT. A BRAWLER WHO OUTBOXED MAB

[4Rounder]

one more thing that concerns me is IF marquez has more power than barrera coz if he doesnt...just by looking at how BIG pac has become at 130 i dont think you need much thinking if you have pacs natural talents to beat a guy like JMM (thats only my opinion though)...i think PAC should just bull rush marquez coz if pac decides to THINK i really think hes gonna lose against JMM(lots of thinking lol)
Are you kidding, if Pacquiao bull rushes JMM he is going to eat a lot of leather. JMM is a master counter-puncher, that is his style and his baby, and nothing would be better for him than Pac mindlessly moving forward. Roach will try to come up with a strategy to fight Marquez where Pacquiao paces himself and tries to take JMM to a brawl, and it will be hard to outsmart Marquez and Baristain. Whether or not it works remains to be seen. :good

[errsta]

Marquez needs to worry about Juarez. Would be a shame if he got caught looking ahead.

[Spit Bucket]

Are you kidding, if Pacquiao bull rushes JMM he is going to eat a lot of leather. JMM is a master counter-puncher, that is his style and his baby, and nothing would be better for him than Pac mindlessly moving forward. Roach will try to come up with a strategy to fight Marquez where Pacquiao paces himself and tries to take JMM to a brawl, and it will be hard to outsmart Marquez and Baristain. Whether or not it works remains to be seen. :good

yes im perfectly aware of that..but the thing that concerns me is if those counters would be enough to hurt him coz if he could just shake them off then he would just get near enough to land his bombs in flurries...remember JMM's chin isnt as good as those of barrera's and surely morales'

[Raden]

Marquez is going to get another ass whopping again from Pac trust me. Pac has all their numbers. There is not another fighter at those weights who can compete with Pac right now.
yes, look at him...:D:D:D
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[Bangis]

JMM eating PAC... wont happen plain and simple... he could win but it would be a close one if that ever happens. the real question is could JMM handle the bigger, better and definitely badder PAC?

[maciek4]

I like JMM and he has the style to beat Pac but he is 34 to Pac's 28 and is on the decline while Pac is in his prime. I think its a 50/50 fight.

[houseboy]

PAK will KTFO Marquez.:hey

[shelterr]

JMM W12 Pac in the rematch. Barring some freak KO where JMM's brain gets detached, Pac will get countered into oblivion, lose to JMM, and move up to 135. Rest assured, he won't steamroll the Lightweight division.

[chimba]

JMM W12 Pac in the rematch. Barring some freak KO where JMM's brain gets detached, Pac will get countered into oblivion, lose to JMM, and move up to 135. Rest assured, he won't steamroll the Lightweight division.

You cant get countered if he boxed like tonight...In boxing you counter the punchers and the agressors, PAC was very patient tonight, he really didnt let loose even in the 12th.

[dodong]

PAcman sucks

... Pacman weak, Pacman dumb, Valero will outbox Pacman, blah, blah, blah, blah... Dude, get a life! This hate that you have is eating you up.

[Danny Ocean]

marquez beat up pac 1nce before and he will do it again

[Morrissey]

Marquez is better than Pacquiao and Barrera. I came to this conlusion about 3-4 years ago. He beat them both in my opinion.

He's a better all round techincal fighter than them both, and I'm hoping Marquez gets a shot at Pacfraud.

However, only one thing concerns me about the master of the ring, Marquez. He can be dropped and hurt. Lets hope he gives Pacfraud a lesson again, and Marquez beats him more convincingly than the the terrible draw when they first fought.

:lol:

He would have beaten him right after their draw, but now?

JMM won't run from Pac, hence, he will be surely dropped, and get KOd.

[Bangis]

PAcman sucks


aLLBLACK? the number one pac hater?

[retriever]

JMM dont even want to fight PAc. How many times JMM avoided PAc? Anyway thats was PAc's last fight at 130.

[knockout]

JMM dont even want to fight PAc. How many times JMM avoided PAc? Anyway thats was PAc's last fight at 130.way the last fight in 130?

[retriever]

He said he cant make 130 anymore. He barely make 130 at the weigh in.

[psychopath]

Marquez is better than Pacquiao and Barrera. I came to this conlusion about 3-4 years ago. He beat them both in my opinion.

He's a better all round techincal fighter than them both, and I'm hoping Marquez gets a shot at Pacfraud.

However, only one thing concerns me about the master of the ring, Marquez. He can be dropped and hurt. Lets hope he gives Pacfraud a lesson again, and Marquez beats him more convincingly than the the terrible draw when they first fought.

Pacfraud? :think

What happend friend? Can't live with reality like some of the morons here?

:D :rofl :lol:

[psychopath]

El Dinamita is next and he's going to finish what Barrera couldn't. PAc has nobody to fight besides MArquez and Soto. Both these hombres would beat pacmans ass. Marquez outboxes pac and Soto knocks his shit out!

Keep keep hating dude. :yep :D

:tong

[Danny Ocean]

let me spank your pea brain about pac-jmm...

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who got his lesson again?? :lol: :lol:


what ? he dropped him in 1round got his ass schooled for the rest

[Robbi]

let me spank your pea brain about pac-jmm...

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who got his lesson again?? :lol: :lol:

Pacquiao got the lesson. That was only one round :hi:

[knockout]

I dont know about Marquez his last fight,Barrera was abel to outbox Marquez early,then later got knockdown i dont know,i think he dont got the legs no more.

[hmi]

PAc isn't goood enough for Marquez. He can beat washed up fighters like Barrera all he wants but he would get punished once he steps up to a fighter with a heartbeat. MArquez and Soto would end him.

No wonder he ran away from In Jin Chi.
You forgot about Guzman. Soto has to survive Guzman first before we can talk about him fighting Pacman. I think Soto will get some ass whopping from Guzman. As for Marquez, I hope he will not price himself out again. Remember that there was an offer just recently for Marquez to fight Pacman but they are offering Pacman just 25%(!) of the purse. Do they really want to fight Pacman or what? It should be the opposite and Marquez get 25% of the purse.

[Spit Bucket]

now that there is a mention of pac going up in weight...would it make any difference to you guys if JMM fights him at lightweight (going by their styles my guess would be NO)????