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colinthfc
03-13-2010, 07:01 AM
How good was he?

Could he have gone to 130 & 135?

How would have he done against against the likes of Kevin Mitchell etc?

skel1983
03-13-2010, 07:11 AM
IMO very good fighter deffo world class, who would struggle with the best but was a class boxer, Mitchell at super featherweight would of been a ******* prime for prime.

D-MAC
03-13-2010, 07:13 AM
He was a real machine at his best, relentlessly rolling forward, taking punches to land his own, never seemed to get tired. His best performance IMO was the title winning one against Chacon (he was brilliant in that fight).

However he was a bit one-dimensional, and had problems with guys who had decent engines themselves, could move a bit and absorb a bit of punishment. Also, maybe no coincidence that two of the guys who gave him a lot of bother (Manuel Medina and Victor Polo) were lanky fellas with good reach.

Dunky will fill in the blanks in this one (I'm just going by what I remember).

In addition, he was massive at the weight, which helped a lot given his style. I don't really think he would have been as effective going up in weight (he loses a lot of his major assets going up), but he probably would have handled most of the guys at FW today.

robpalmer135
03-13-2010, 08:01 AM
i think harrison was a top level fighter but think he had reached his top level. maybe he could have gone to super feather and done something.

he won a belt but he was never gonna beat the top names at those weights (at the time barrera, morales, pacquiao) and be a true world champion

TheUzi
03-13-2010, 10:15 AM
he wouldn't have beaten women and children

Dan684
03-13-2010, 10:18 AM
:rofl

cityofgod
03-13-2010, 10:49 AM
who cares, he's a horrid bastard who beat up family, friends, women and toddlers.

A drink driver by trade, he's lucky he didnt kill someone.

manbearpig
03-13-2010, 11:23 AM
He's a cunt and so is his brother. They were in a bar in Hamilton which I also happened to be in a few years ago and he shoved a barmaid because he 'deserved to be served first'.

fatcity
03-13-2010, 11:42 AM
Perhaps he is related to a Pikey.

Dan684
03-13-2010, 11:55 AM
I hope Ice sees that :lol:

billy boy balbo
03-13-2010, 11:59 AM
when scott gets out the jail i still think he will do ok boxing wise even though hes not had a fight in ages

NO MAS
03-13-2010, 12:49 PM
Some interesting quotes...:yep

Pug1list
03-13-2010, 12:59 PM
Vile individual.

China_hand_Joe
03-13-2010, 02:08 PM
He can't have been far off reaching his potential.

He was basically a good-ish fighter, who was pretty massive at the weight.

Gibbsy
03-13-2010, 03:29 PM
The Darren Fletcher of boxers... (enjoy footballists...)

Dan684
03-13-2010, 03:31 PM
Darren Fletcher is 100 x the footballer Harrison could have ever been a boxer.

Fletcher is 4th to Cantona, Best and Keane

Gibbsy
03-13-2010, 03:33 PM
I think you just made my point...

Dan684
03-13-2010, 03:34 PM
Nice one :good

Welcome to the forum mate, beware of the Yorkies on here, they're all keyboard Warriors :yep

Primadonna Kool
03-13-2010, 03:44 PM
whens he coming out of jail...?

Camm
03-13-2010, 03:51 PM
He's a cunt and so is his brother. They were in a bar in Hamilton which I also happened to be in a few years ago and he shoved a barmaid because he 'deserved to be served first'.


I can better that. I was working in the counting house in Glasgow that day he went nuts!! Grade A nutcase & a complete wank on that occasion im afraid. Wasted talent though, i liked him & style as a boxer. Better than Arthur anyhow

:hi:

jinks
03-13-2010, 04:33 PM
i think scott harrison was a very dedermined boxer who was a class act but he was lead down the wrong road in hindsight scott should have stayed away from his mates but he didnt and thats a shame but scotland benifited from scott harrison as tv was back watching boxing in scotland which in the long run benifited boxers like aaa kevin mcintyre gary young willie limond simpson because they where recieving exposure on sky tv even billy nelson has benifited from scott exposure which has led to him being a very good trainner in his own right so i hope scott comes back but most importantly he is in a good place mentally and he should be remebered for his boxing talent

NO MAS
03-13-2010, 05:54 PM
Darren Fletcher is 100 x the footballer Harrison could have ever been a boxer.

Fletcher is 4th to Cantona, Best and Keane


You rate Fletcher that much...:think

Is Gibbsy a another Manure...Oh fuck...:patsch

mryeags
03-13-2010, 07:02 PM
i think scott harrison was a very dedermined boxer who was a class act but he was lead down the wrong road in hindsight scott should have stayed away from his mates but he didnt and thats a shame but scotland benifited from scott harrison as tv was back watching boxing in scotland which in the long run benifited boxers like aaa kevin mcintyre gary young willie limond simpson because they where recieving exposure on sky tv even billy nelson has benifited from scott exposure which has led to him being a very good trainner in his own right so i hope scott comes back but most importantly he is in a good place mentally and he should be remebered for his boxing talent

Hes a little runt who hould just fuck off the face of this earth ! ...got little mans syndrome .....

TFFP
03-13-2010, 07:05 PM
How good was he?

Good, but not the cream of the crop at any time. People talk about him like he was a mercurial talent lost to booze. The reality he was a guy that was very big for his division, very stong, a hard worker and a solid puncher. For those reasons no he wouldn't have been good at other weights, part of the reason he was good were size and strength.

Dunky McCafferty
03-13-2010, 11:10 PM
Its funny how all of a sudden now that Scottys been banged up for years so many posters here have supposedly 'bumped into' Scotty in pubs/nightclubs & Scottys been such a horrible person!

The made up story brigade are having a field day in this thread:D

Whatever next, Scotty Harrison ate my hamster?

p.Townend
03-13-2010, 11:35 PM
He was a very good fighter,he seems to have totally gone of the rails though.I thought and hoped he was going to get his licence back and then he ends up in a load more bother due to the ale.I think he would have had some big fights and won a lot of them had he stayed away from the beer.He was a very hard fighter who would hold his own against anyone.Its a shame we will never know just what he could have done in boxing.

Camm
03-14-2010, 01:22 AM
Its funny how all of a sudden now that Scottys been banged up for years so many posters here have supposedly 'bumped into' Scotty in pubs/nightclubs & Scottys been such a horrible person!

The made up story brigade are having a field day in this thread:D

Whatever next, Scotty Harrison ate my hamster?


Not at all mate. He had already slipped down the spiral in life, when his mate got refused drink in the pub i afore mentioned! Tried to fight...... then chased the manager into the kitchen & attemptied to bang the door down to smack him!!

My only witness of the guy i "bumped into" was that he was a horrible person. A shame..........................

Dunky McCafferty
03-14-2010, 01:23 AM
He was a very good fighter,he seems to have totally gone of the rails though.I thought and hoped he was going to get his licence back and then he ends up in a load more bother due to the ale.I think he would have had some big fights and won a lot of them had he stayed away from the beer.He was a very hard fighter who would hold his own against anyone.Its a shame we will never know just what he could have done in boxing.

You hit the nail right on the head there my good man.

Scotty was special, its a great shame that the booze beat him before he got the chance to prove himself at elite level.

billy nelson
03-14-2010, 01:19 PM
i think harrison was a top level fighter but think he had reached his top level. maybe he could have gone to super feather and done something.

he won a belt but he was never gonna beat the top names at those weights (at the time barrera, morales, pacquiao) and be a true world championRob let me tell you Scott was a machine at his best nobody could touch him,people think he was just a tough guy but he beat pablo chacon who KO'D koko kovac by outboxing him,nobody in the UK would have beat Scott at FW,SFW OR LW,I base this on at the time he'd spar with the best SFW and LW in the country and no offence to these guys destroy them.You always sound so dismissive of anything a scottish fighter acheives rather rude wee man.

billy nelson
03-14-2010, 01:24 PM
How good was he?

Good, but not the cream of the crop at any time. People talk about him like he was a mercurial talent lost to booze. The reality he was a guy that was very big for his division, very stong, a hard worker and a solid puncher. For those reasons no he wouldn't have been good at other weights, part of the reason he was good were size and strength.the thing is so what if your big at the weight you need to be talented and extra special to be a world champ.ive never in my life seen a bigger lightweight than brescott i rest my case.

alfi balboa
03-14-2010, 01:49 PM
he would of showed mitchell a thing or two about a thing or two..too much power i would say an 8th round ko/tko by harrison for sure....any doubters watch the mcculloch fight...................nuff said :yep

supremo
03-14-2010, 01:55 PM
Its funny how all of a sudden now that Scottys been banged up for years so many posters here have supposedly 'bumped into' Scotty in pubs/nightclubs & Scottys been such a horrible person!

The made up story brigade are having a field day in this thread:D

Whatever next, Scotty Harrison ate my hamster?

#Glasgow aint a big place mate as you probably know and with the socialiscing Harrison reportedly did its hardly surprising that some would have bumped into him.

warrior85
03-14-2010, 01:59 PM
good fighter,but he'd have been absolutely hammered by the elite

mckay_89
03-14-2010, 02:29 PM
He was a very good fighter but was a champion when the division was absolutely loaded with talent - Pacman, Barrera, Morales and Marquez would all have beaten him imo. He is also a grade A cunt.

doylexxx
03-14-2010, 04:12 PM
booze can turn people into cunts, its quite sad

hope he stays away form booze when out

craig stephen
03-14-2010, 09:27 PM
A lot written here about what a horrible cunt he is, but you can only speak as you find.

Early 2006, when Scott Harrison's title defense against Gairy St Clair was looking in doubt and the Scottish press were following his every move, he suddenly disappeared off the radar. I went out for dinner one Saturday night with the family to a little restaurant on Loch Lomond. Walking outside for a fag, I bumped into a guy on his own. I nodded at him and he said "do I know you?" It was Scott Harrison. I said that we had never been introduced but that I was a boxing MC.

He said that was where he knew me from and we talked for over half an hour, so long in fact that my son came out looking for me! He came across as a very down to earth bloke, I think he was happy just to speak to someone that didn't want a story, an autograph or to judge him.

My son, who had thought that he was an arsehole, based only on what he had read in the papers, changed his views on Scott that night.

Don't forget that Glasgow on a night out, like a lot of cities, is full of pissed up dickheads who would go out of their way to bait guys like Harrison or any Old Firm footballer who was out on the town.

I knew that the press were hunting for him and never told anyone in the boxing world that I had seen him that night for months afterwards.

Dunky McCafferty
03-14-2010, 09:38 PM
A lot written here about what a horrible cunt he is, but you can only speak as you find.

Early 2006, when Scott Harrison's title defense against Gairy St Clair was looking in doubt and the Scottish press were following his every move, he suddenly disappeared off the radar. I went out for dinner one Saturday night with the family to a little restaurant on Loch Lomond. Walking outside for a fag, I bumped into a guy on his own. I nodded at him and he said "do I know you?" It was Scott Harrison. I said that we had never been introduced but that I was a boxing MC.

He said that was where he knew me from and we talked for over half an hour, so long in fact that my son came out looking for me! He came across as a very down to earth bloke, I think he was happy just to speak to someone that didn't want a story, an autograph or to judge him.

My son, who had thought that he was an arsehole, based only on what he had read in the papers, changed his views on Scott that night.

Don't forget that Glasgow on a night out, like a lot of cities, is full of pissed up dickheads who would go out of their way to bait guys like Harrison or any Old Firm footballer who was out on the town.

I knew that the press were hunting for him and never told anyone in the boxing world that I had seen him that night for months afterwards.

Thanks for the story my good man, this post makes a mockery of the made up story brigade here wanting to kick a man when hes down. Scotty Harrison wasnt perfect, but hes nowhere near the kinda bad guy the press or the noobs here making up stories make him out to be.

Dan684
03-14-2010, 10:25 PM
A lot written here about what a horrible cunt he is, but you can only speak as you find.

Early 2006, when Scott Harrison's title defense against Gairy St Clair was looking in doubt and the Scottish press were following his every move, he suddenly disappeared off the radar. I went out for dinner one Saturday night with the family to a little restaurant on Loch Lomond. Walking outside for a fag, I bumped into a guy on his own. I nodded at him and he said "do I know you?" It was Scott Harrison. I said that we had never been introduced but that I was a boxing MC.

He said that was where he knew me from and we talked for over half an hour, so long in fact that my son came out looking for me! He came across as a very down to earth bloke, I think he was happy just to speak to someone that didn't want a story, an autograph or to judge him.

My son, who had thought that he was an arsehole, based only on what he had read in the papers, changed his views on Scott that night.

Don't forget that Glasgow on a night out, like a lot of cities, is full of pissed up dickheads who would go out of their way to bait guys like Harrison or any Old Firm footballer who was out on the town.

I knew that the press were hunting for him and never told anyone in the boxing world that I had seen him that night for months afterwards.

Good point, but harrison was normally one of them. :lol:

I agree though take people as they are to you, not what anybody else says

Fighting Weight
03-14-2010, 10:34 PM
Thanks for the story my good man, this post makes a mockery of the made up story brigade here wanting to kick a man when hes down. Scotty Harrison wasnt perfect, but hes nowhere near the kinda bad guy the press or the noobs here making up stories make him out to be.

Alright Dunkster, hope you're well :good

I've said many times about Harrison, he's not a cunt, he's just a cunt when he's been drinking and there is a difference. Shame he couldn't control that when he was active but he's not the first sportsman/alchy and he won't be the last either. Like all boxers he terrifies the average person when he's pissed, therefore the reputation for being a cunt grows and grows, it's hysteria. I bet George Best threw more drunken punches in his time than Harrison ever did, yet he's got a fucking airport named after him now :huh

That's not excusing Harrisons actions by the way, he's done some stupid shit and I'm sure he knows it, but he was a very good fighter. Probably too late for any kind of comeback now, he destroyed his own career which is the only reason I'd ever call him a cunt...

billy nelson
03-15-2010, 03:55 AM
in all the gyms ive been to in my life ive never seen anyone train has hard as scott harrison,in the gym he was a total professional and an excellent man who would talk to prospects and advice them on boxing.

jinks
03-15-2010, 09:57 AM
I was lucky enough to meet scott harrison at a pro show in edinburgh and one off my sponsorer ask to meet him i introduced him to scott and his girl freind and they ended up out that night haveing a great time next again monday big press release in glasgow harrison drunk and fighting with door staff on sateruday night yet i no for a fact he was with my freind at a private party and he had a great night and he was staying at an edinburgh hotel . so not every story that was printed was true and most that where printed got saved because at the time scott sold paper because the glasgow pulic wanted to no about him the press built him up and also had a lot to do with his down fall . i will finish with one more fact until your in this situtation of the fish bowl you dont no how you would handle it look at the number of footballer that end up the same with regards the drink

Lee Mc
03-15-2010, 10:05 AM
He had potential and would have caused a few problems for the elite in his weight class. However, he wouldn't have been THE man.

achillesthegreat
03-15-2010, 03:35 PM
IF only Hearns had Haglers chin. Mental flaws are pretty much as bad as physical ones and sometimes cannot be changed.

hitman_hatton1
03-15-2010, 11:34 PM
I was lucky enough to meet scott harrison at a pro show in edinburgh and one off my sponsorer ask to meet him i introduced him to scott and his girl freind and they ended up out that night haveing a great time next again monday big press release in glasgow harrison drunk and fighting with door staff on sateruday night yet i no for a fact he was with my freind at a private party and he had a great night and he was staying at an edinburgh hotel . so not every story that was printed was true and most that where printed got saved because at the time scott sold paper because the glasgow pulic wanted to no about him the press built him up and also had a lot to do with his down fall . i will finish with one more fact until your in this situtation of the fish bowl you dont no how you would handle it look at the number of footballer that end up the same with regards the drink

he couldn't even stay out of a trouble away from the fishbowl though could he.

getting himself in trouble in spain. :patsch

Greg Houston
03-16-2010, 05:35 PM
I've been reading this thread since it started and figured I had might as well chip in with my say on the matter.
As for Scott's ability I think he could ahve beaten any of the featherweights on his day, but I do have bias in my opinon as he is my favourite boxer. The first fight I ever went to was the night he beat Chacon and that will stick with me forever as will travelling down to Manchester to see him beat Brodie.
I first met Scott at the weigh-in for the McCullough fight and found him to be very pleasant and more than happy to talk to a couple of fans. I then took time ocassionaly to go and watch him train and over the years have had the extreme pleasure of getting to know his father, Peter. Whenever I have spoken to Scott he has always been polite and a genuinley nice guy. I can't comment on his behaviour with a drink in him, as I have never experienced this, but he's not the only guy to be badly affected by drink and I've heard stories of other pro boxers that are almost as bad if not worse than some of those about Scott (I have no intention of naming names as it is not my place to do so), yet didn't make the press.
The last time I saw Scott was when I was announcing at a show in Paisley last year anmd he seemed really upbeat and was even arranging to spar with Gary Young. I was then deeply saddened to hear that he had been given a prison sentence only a couple of months later.
I would love to see him make a comeback when he is free again, but, whilst my heart says he can rule whichever division he fights in, my head does say that it has been too long and we will never know just what exactly he could have achieved

It is thanks to Scott that I have the passion I do for boxing and thanks to him and his father that I know many of the people in boxing that I do, so I am grateful to them.

jinks
03-16-2010, 07:23 PM
hitman i am not trying to condone want scott has or has not done what i was trying to say. until you are living that life in glasgow were everyone thinks your his pal and have the right to talk to you when your out with your family or freinds or even slagg you off . with regards spain he is living with what he done or didnt do as i was not there i cant comment on but what i was saying anytime i met his he was very polite and pleasant and i thought a nice guy

craig stephen
03-16-2010, 09:23 PM
Don't forget that Glasgow on a night out, like a lot of cities, is full of pissed up dickheads

Good point, but harrison was normally one of them. :lol:

And quite a few of the rest of us Dan. I think that "Pissed up dickhead" appears somewhere on my CV.:yep

Dan684
03-16-2010, 09:25 PM
:lol:

:good