View Full Version : Calzaghe wants to Help the Viking Warrior Tame the Cobra
Mandanda
03-13-2010, 10:57 AM
Just seen article about this at live fight and thought i'd post it if it's already been posted then apologies.
Rumours suggest that Joe Calzaghe has allegedly offered his assistance to Mikkel Kessler ahead of his fight with Carl Froch.
According to Lionheart-Boxing.dk and ekstrabladet.dk, Calzaghe has contacted Kesslers manager to offer his help to ensure the Viking Warrior beats Froch and win the WBC Title.
Kessler obviously hasn't rejected the idea and looks likely to use Calzaghes help ahead of the fight.
Thoughts???
Dan684
03-13-2010, 11:12 AM
Yeah and this is good for British boxing isn't it Joe ? You fucking hypocritical Welsh prick. Fuck off back to obscurity with your Dad you fucking bell end.
Mandanda
03-13-2010, 11:16 AM
Yeah and this is good for British boxing isn't it Joe ? You fucking hypocritical Welsh prick. Fuck off back to obscurity with your Dad you fucking bell end.
Can't argue with you mate i feel same way. If this is true which to be honest i think it probably is. He has no reason to get involved he already feels Kessler gonna win so just stay out of it. What ever's gone in the past should stay in the past..showing no class at all if this is true.
hitandhope
03-13-2010, 11:17 AM
Rumours suggest that Joe Calzaghe has allegedly offered his assistance to Mikkel Kessler ahead of his fight with Carl Froch.
If this is true then I'm convinced Calzaghe will come out of retirement to fight Froch sometime, if Froch beats Kessler that is.
Mandanda
03-13-2010, 11:22 AM
If this is true then I'm convinced Calzaghe will come out of retirement to fight Froch sometime, if Froch beats Kessler that is.
Yeah he will have to wait a bit though. He had his chance to fight Froch but he went into retirement and acts like a kid. Froch said silly things yeah but that's because he wanted the man to fight him and surely Joe can understand that...well come to think about it Joe was never keen on calling out the best. And that's from someone who don't mind him. Just don't like this petty stuff...Kessler doesn't need your help Joe so fuck off.
BIG WORM
03-13-2010, 11:27 AM
Lol ...........looooooooooooooooool
haha
threethirteen
03-13-2010, 11:28 AM
Seems a bit sad for a multi-millionaire. Basically Joe, you had the beating of the big nosed banger, so you should have fought him in your farewell.
BIG WORM
03-13-2010, 11:32 AM
It is a bit sad.
But that's Calzaghe for you, a fiery welsh/Italian...... Been bullied as a youngster and don't like lippy cunts like Froch..
warrior85
03-13-2010, 11:34 AM
well froch is a twat so i cant blame joe,just wished he'd been the one to do froch over himself.
Dan684
03-13-2010, 11:39 AM
He wouldn't Warrior because not only is he a bigger twat he's a shithouse too.
kosaros
03-13-2010, 11:42 AM
He is offering to help someone he shared the ring with. Big deal.
Trenaman
03-13-2010, 11:45 AM
He can offer all the help he wants it doesnt change the fact that if Froch wins his next 2 fights which i think he will then his record eclipses his and his legacy is tarnished.
Dan684
03-13-2010, 11:53 AM
Fuck Off Kos
kosaros
03-13-2010, 11:54 AM
He can offer all the help he wants it doesnt change the fact that if Froch wins his next 2 fights which i think he will then his record eclipses his and his legacy is tarnished.
Are you telling me that if Froch beats Kessler and Arbaham he will be in the top 10 British fighters of all time?
GazOC
03-13-2010, 11:56 AM
He is offering to help someone he shared the ring with. Big deal.
Yep, the seemed to get on with Kessler and doesn't like Froch. Let him get on with it.
DOM5153
03-13-2010, 11:56 AM
Yeah and this is good for British boxing isn't it Joe ? You fucking hypocritical Welsh prick. Fuck off back to obscurity with your Dad you fucking bell end.
:lol:
Beeston Brawler
03-13-2010, 11:59 AM
I think Froch needs more than wins over Kessler and Abraham to go above Calzaghe.
Those two, Andre Ward and a decent light heavy or two and he's there.
Froch has already beaten Pascal, Taylor and Dirrell in less than 30 fights - at the same stage of his career he's streets ahead.
ollyc
03-13-2010, 12:01 PM
I doubt this so called offer of 'help' will involve much more than a phone call. I can't see Calzaghe going out to Denmark to offer any hands on assistance.
dan-b
03-13-2010, 12:03 PM
Joe, in a couple of weeks, won't be able to solve what caused Kessler's downfall against Ward, ie, being a bit soft (mentally), robotic and not throwing combinations.
Mandanda
03-13-2010, 12:03 PM
I doubt this so called offer of 'help' will involve much more than a phone call. I can't see Calzaghe going out to Denmark to offer any hands on assistance.
Yeah i think it be a lil talk on the phone about Froch's flaws. To be honest i'm a Froch fan but even i could openly talk to Kessler about his weaknesses they are there for all to see. Joe should just sit back and let these two warriors lay it all on the line.
GazOC
03-13-2010, 12:04 PM
Joe, in a couple of weeks, won't be able to solve what caused Kessler's downfall against Ward, ie, being a bit soft (mentally), robotic and not throwing combinations.
Froch won't present the same problems as Ward though.
Dan684
03-13-2010, 12:05 PM
I swear down if Froch stops Kessler I am gonna travel to Wales and find this cunt and laugh in his fucking face about how the COBRA did what he couldn't. He's a fucking bell end
Mandanda
03-13-2010, 12:06 PM
I swear down if Froch stops Kessler I am gonna travel to Wales and find this cunt and laugh in his fucking face about how the COBRA did what he couldn't. He's a fucking bell end
:rofl love to see that. Hope the Carl can do it.
kosaros
03-13-2010, 12:07 PM
I swear down if Froch stops Kessler I am gonna travel to Wales and find this cunt and laugh in his fucking face about how the COBRA did what he couldn't. He's a fucking bell end
Because Calzaghe, in his later career, was well renown for his power wasn't he?
Anyway, what will you do if Kessler beats Froch? :)
dan-b
03-13-2010, 12:08 PM
Froch won't present the same problems as Ward though.
Very true. But Joe hasn't fought Froch, so what's he going to help him with? He can't overhaul Mikkel's style that quickly.
Besides, Froch will test that mental fortitude of Kessler's again. I was quite shocked at the way a former 'world' champion reacted in the circumstances.
DOM5153
03-13-2010, 12:08 PM
I swear down if Froch stops Kessler I am gonna travel to Wales and find this cunt and laugh in his fucking face about how the COBRA did what he couldn't. He's a fucking bell end
:rofl:lol:
GazOC
03-13-2010, 12:09 PM
I swear down if Froch stops Kessler I am gonna travel to Wales and find this cunt and laugh in his fucking face about how the COBRA did what he couldn't. He's a fucking bell end
Fucking hell mate, I know with Hattons retirement Bettys star is on the wane but don't feel you have to fill his shoes.;)
Dan684
03-13-2010, 12:09 PM
Nothing say well done to him on here I suppose. :lol:
I think Froch will win to be honest but any of the five possible outcomes are a real posibility in this fight so i'm just looking forward to it to be honest.
dan-b
03-13-2010, 12:12 PM
Froch needs to be in his grill all night.
GazOC
03-13-2010, 12:12 PM
Very true. But Joe hasn't fought Froch, so what's he going to help him with? He can't overhaul Mikkel's style that quickly.
Besides, Froch will test that mental fortitude of Kessler's again. I was quite shocked at the way a former 'world' champion reacted in the circumstances.
I don't think that Calzaghe can really help Kessler, I just don't think Kessler has to solve the problems that became apparent in the Ward fight or overhaul anything because of that fight in order to beat Froch.
Dan684
03-13-2010, 12:14 PM
Gaz, i'm not trying to fill anyones shoes pal :lol:
I just fucking dispise all this bollocks that comes from Calzaghe everytime he thinks his name maybe slipping away from the spotlights.
He should shut the fuck up or come out of retirement and fight someone without a bus pass. I bet you Froch would take himself out of this tourny to face Calzaghe too, he wants it that much. Calzaghe wouldn't have stepped anywhere near the conference room to do a deal for a tourny like this let alone take part. Him and his gobshite father should fuck off and retire to Newbridge and not bother the boxing fraternity again. He's an enemy to the game.
DOM5153
03-13-2010, 12:15 PM
Gaz, i'm not trying to fill anyones shoes pal :lol:
I just fucking dispise all this bollocks that comes from Calzaghe everytime he thinks his name maybe slipping away from the spotlights.
He should shut the fuck up or come out of retirement and fight someone without a bus pass. I bet you Froch would take himself out of this tourny to face Calzaghe too, he wants it that much. Calzaghe wouldn't have stepped anywhere near the conference room to do a deal for a tourny like this let alone take part. Him and his gobshite father should fuck off and retire to Newbridge and not bother the boxing fraternity again. He's an enemy to the game.
:huh:lol:
dan-b
03-13-2010, 12:15 PM
I don't think that Calzaghe can really help Kessler, I just don't think Kessler has to solve the problems that became apparent in the Ward fight or overhaul anything because of that fight in order to beat Froch.
You see I do. Froch will, to quote Oscar, "make it a rough and tough fight". Plus I think Kessler will be damaged goods after taking that beating. If Froch stays in his grill, I think Mikkel will wilt.
GazOC
03-13-2010, 12:16 PM
Jesus!!:lol:
GazOC
03-13-2010, 12:20 PM
You see I do. Froch will, to quote Oscar, "make it a rough and tough fight". Plus I think Kessler will be damaged goods after taking that beating. If Froch stays in his grill, I think Mikkel will wilt.
We'll see mate. IMHO that loss wasn't a career changing beating, it was "just" a loss. Rather than trying to fix what cost him the fight against a slick mover like Ward, Kessler would be better served concentrating on what got him the 30 odd wins before the Ward fight.
DOM5153
03-13-2010, 12:23 PM
We'll see mate. IMHO that loss wasn't a career changing beating, it was "just" a loss. Rather than trying to fix what cost him the fight against a slick mover like Ward, Kessler would be better served concentrating on what got him the 30 odd wins before the Ward fight.
or before the Calzaghe fight. (and no im not suggesting that.... even though i might if Froch beats him):smoke
dan-b
03-13-2010, 12:26 PM
We'll see mate. IMHO that loss wasn't a career changing beating, it was "just" a loss. Rather than trying to fix what cost him the fight against a slick mover like Ward, Kessler would be better served concentrating on what got him the 30 odd wins before the Ward fight.
But Ward completely outfought him that night, landing punches on the inside. Admittedly Froch is quite poor technically, but I think he can pressure Mikkel into a fight; which would favour Carl.
Chopper
03-13-2010, 12:27 PM
I doubt this so called offer of 'help' will involve much more than a phone call. I can't see Calzaghe going out to Denmark to offer any hands on assistance.
You really think they would make such a bog stink of it then mate? Froch has conducted himself like real rubbish. Carly handled himself like a punk when Joe was still fighting. So desperate to get where Joe was, its just rubs me all wrong. At least Joe would turn them tables on top of you and you get a fight. Old Carly can hit the bricks m8. He's bloody awful. He can drink all the glasses of wine with his mum that he wants, but its all jus' a sham for the camera's.
Joe has some class and can see right through the kid.
hagman1989
03-13-2010, 12:28 PM
i hate calzaghe nuthuggers
GazOC
03-13-2010, 12:30 PM
But Ward completely outfought him that night, landing punches on the inside. Admittedly Froch is quite poor technically, but I think he can pressure Mikkel into a fight; which would favour Carl.
yep, if Froch can get in his face then he has the punch and chin to beat Kessler.
I just don't see the need on Kesslers part, aged 30, to try and fix the faults in his performance in the Ward fight when he fights Froch.
Trenaman
03-13-2010, 12:30 PM
Are you telling me that if Froch beats Kessler and Arbaham he will be in the top 10 British fighters of all time?
Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler, Abraham back to back in my eyes is more impressive than anything JC has on his record. I am not interested in all time lists, but these 2 were about in the same era.
dan-b
03-13-2010, 12:31 PM
yep, if Froch can get in his face then he has the punch and chin to beat Kessler.
I just don't see the need on Kesslers part, aged 30, to try and fix the faults in his performance in the Ward fight when he fights Froch.
It's certainly a pick 'em fight now imo. I wouldn't have said that 6 months ago.
Beeston Brawler
03-13-2010, 12:32 PM
I'd have put the house on Kessler to stop Froch six months ago.
Now..... cautiously Kessler on points, but no outcome would surprise me.
GazOC
03-13-2010, 12:33 PM
It's certainly a pick 'em fight now imo. I wouldn't have said that 6 months ago.
Yeah, it was seen as very hard fight for Froch now its very winnable.
dan-b
03-13-2010, 12:36 PM
Do you all think AA will chin Dirrell after being messed about for a few rounds? I do.
China_hand_Joe
03-13-2010, 12:37 PM
Kessler is English.
dan-b
03-13-2010, 12:38 PM
Kessler is English.
You're an alien.
GazOC
03-13-2010, 12:39 PM
Do you all think AA will chin Dirrell after being messed about for a few rounds? I do.
Yep, I think he'll get to Dirrell in the end. I wonder if Dirrel will try and be slightly more aggressive after the Froch fight? That'll suit AA.
dan-b
03-13-2010, 12:41 PM
Yep, I think he'll get to Dirrell in the end. I wonder if Dirrel will try and be slightly more aggressive after the Froch fight? That'll suit AA.
Yeah, Andre is in a tough spot here. He won't want to do too much running because of what happened against Froch, but he won't want to be in AA's range for too long either.
NO MAS
03-13-2010, 12:43 PM
Yeah and this is good for British boxing isn't it Joe ? You fucking hypocritical Welsh prick. Fuck off back to obscurity with your Dad you fucking bell end.
If it's true then Joe Calzaghe can fuck right off...:barf
It is bollox that he offers to assist Kessler to beat Froch...:think Why did he not fight Froch himself...:think
I understand that Calzaghe would not want to give Froch a payday in a similar way to how Hatton didn't want to give Witter a payday either...:yep
But by doing what he is doing will only give fuel to the Froch fire and I think that JC could end up having to chisle egg off his chin for a good while and Froch will give him endless verbals for a longtime to come...:deal
This sort of thing is stupid, Lennox did it to try and see the Klitschko's defeated also. It's cringeworthy...
What sort of assistance can Calzaghe give on a fighter he's never fought before? Better than an experienced trainer like Montoya?
GazOC
03-13-2010, 12:51 PM
This sort of thing is stupid, Lennox did it to try and see the Klitschko's defeated also. It's cringeworthy...
What sort of assistance can Calzaghe give on a fighter he's never fought before? Better than an experienced trainer like Montoya?
I'd guess rather than pick holes in Froch, Calzaghe would be more help telling Kessler what faults he saw when they fought?
As said though, more than likely we are just talking a chat on the phone rather than Calzaghe spending time at Kesslers training camp.
I'd guess rather than pick holes in Froch, Calzaghe would be more help telling Kessler what faults he saw when they fought?
As said though, more than likely we are just talking a chat on the phone rather than Calzaghe spending time at Kesslers training camp.
True, its probably a mountain being made of a molehill.
I just hope Kessler was the one that contacted him, it seems a bit desperate to see Froch defeated otherwise.That will surely happen in good time regardless :hey
GazOC
03-13-2010, 12:55 PM
True, its probably a mountain being made of a molehill.
On ESB??? Never!!!:D
dan-b
03-13-2010, 12:57 PM
On ESB??? Never!!!:D
:lol:
Dan684
03-13-2010, 12:58 PM
Can you all imagine the post fight presser if Carl wins by stoppage :rofl
Calzaghe wants to turn his TV off as soon as Kessler gets stopped if it happens coz he'll be in for some Froch Tonugue lashings :lol:
cityofgod
03-13-2010, 01:08 PM
well if this is true and it sounds it, then joe should be ashamed of himself really. i used to be a calzaghe fan, but with each month that passes i came to realise that whenever he a big fight came up he would duck out with any excuse. Bad back, bad wrist, bad cold, bad case of the yellow fever.. when glen johnson got ducked and then he battered jones, all the bluster from calzaghe stopped that very night about johnson.
the guy is a spiteful whinger who is desperate for kessler to win or his ever-tarnishing CV goes up in smoke. froch will have beaten Taylor, Dirrell, and Pascal - add their ages together and it's still less than Hopkins+Jones.
when he takes out the viking, calzaghe's bitterness will see him transform into a man-sized bottle of JIF lemon.
Boro chris
03-13-2010, 01:16 PM
Yeah and this is good for British boxing isn't it Joe ? You fucking hypocritical Welsh prick. Fuck off back to obscurity with your Dad you fucking bell end.
Nah Froch is a bellend, love to see Kessler flatten him. Don't forget its an individual sport so a national bias isn't as strong as it is for a team sport.
anjawnaymiz
03-13-2010, 01:25 PM
calzaghe should get back in his chair, yes froch will beat kessler but he's gettin iced by abraham im certain of this, theres only so much froch's chin can take and abraham is a beast, im sorry carl but you aint gonna know what day of the year it is after abrahams delt with you.
the only way calzaghe comes out of retirement is if froch wins the super 6 and then beats bute plus froch will have to move up to light heavy plus what calzghe will be 39???
aint happnin!
China_hand_Joe
03-13-2010, 01:37 PM
Froch isn't beating Kessler.
You are somewhat insane is you believe he will.
It will soon become apparrent that Dirrell is a little naff, that Kessler is a class above Froch and that Andre Ward is something special.
ellaineo
03-13-2010, 02:11 PM
Is Calzaghe just desperate for a bit of publicity, after his promotions company went tits up and as his resume falls apart he is now getting worried that Froch might end up looking like a better fighter. If Joe hates him so much why didn't he just get in the ring with him??
Dan684
03-13-2010, 02:16 PM
Coz he's a shithouse ellaineo
cityofgod
03-13-2010, 02:32 PM
agreed dan.
noonan
03-13-2010, 02:38 PM
It reminds me of Rocky III when Apollo trains Rocky.......
I would prefer JC to come back and be the one to beat Froch though,
If Froch were to win this super 6, then the money would probably be there for it to happen!!
NO MAS
03-13-2010, 02:45 PM
At Light Heavy though... It would murder JC to do Super Middleweight again...:tired
ellaineo
03-13-2010, 02:45 PM
It reminds me of Rocky III when Apollo trains Rocky.......
I would prefer JC to come back and be the one to beat Froch though,
If Froch were to win this super 6, then the money would probably be there for it to happen!!
Dont think money was ever an issue as far as i know, Joe was offered very good money to fight Froch but always made excuses such as he didn't want to give Froch a payday and he wasn't a big enough name.
I have no ill feeling towards Calzaghe but I do wish he would have took the fight 2 or 3 years ago, the fight will never happen now as Joe as too much to lose in terms of his legacy.
China_hand_Joe
03-13-2010, 02:49 PM
Beating Froch would have done nothing for Calzaghe.
Does anyone think people would in hindsight have seen Froch as a worthwhile opponent after Calzaghe had made appear like a journeyman?
Carnage
03-13-2010, 02:49 PM
Yeah and this is good for British boxing isn't it Joe ? You fucking hypocritical Welsh prick. Fuck off back to obscurity with your Dad you fucking bell end.
Brilliant quote, need not read the rest of the posts, this sums it up.
China_hand_Joe
03-13-2010, 02:51 PM
One could argue Froch doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same forum as Kessler.
Yet people here are describing Kessler vs Froch as a 50/50 'fight'.
It is all very strange and unnerving to see.
Dan684
03-13-2010, 02:54 PM
Yeah alright then China Hand joe, this ISN'T a 50/50 fight :good
:patsch
China_hand_Joe
03-13-2010, 03:04 PM
There is a 95% chance Kessler will win this fight.
I would give Froch about a 15% chance.
If Kessler breaks his own spine by punching to powerfully during the fight, then Froch has at least some hope of winning.
Boro chris
03-13-2010, 03:10 PM
Beating Froch would have done nothing for Calzaghe.
Does anyone think people would in hindsight have seen Froch as a worthwhile opponent after Calzaghe had made appear like a journeyman?
Kinda how I see it as well. Froch was a nobody till after the Pascal fight. Calzaghe would've beaten like Lacy and got even less credit for it.
Will be a little surprised if he get's past Kessler but its certainly possible.
Dan684
03-13-2010, 03:11 PM
WHAT........ THE........ FUCK ????
There is a 95% chance Kessler wins and a 15% chance that Froch wins ?? How does that add up :rofl
And 15%. You need your head testing.
GazOC
03-13-2010, 03:12 PM
Froch has a more than 15% of winning, I'd give him 35% chance and Kessler 85%.
Dan684
03-13-2010, 03:14 PM
:rofl
GazOC
03-13-2010, 03:15 PM
Oh, and another 5% for the draw.
China_hand_Joe
03-13-2010, 03:16 PM
WHAT........ THE........ FUCK ????
There is a 95% chance Kessler wins and a 15% chance that Froch wins ?? How does that add up :rofl
And 15%. You need your head testing.
Sorry, I made a typo.
It was 1.5% for Froch.
The other 3.5% are the chances of a No Contest occuring after Fan Man rises from the dead and interupts the fight by repeating his trick from the 1993 Holyfield - Bowe fight. This should be considered as being just over twice as likely to happen as a Carl Froch win.
icemax
03-13-2010, 03:18 PM
Are you telling me that if Froch beats Kessler and Arbaham he will be in the top 10 British fighters of all time?
...are you suggesting that Calzaghe is?, God sake, get a grip :-(
Dan684
03-13-2010, 03:19 PM
:lol:
See I don't like Calzaghe, no questioning that. But at least I have a reason (Chicken shit, boring, fight dodging, son of a nob head).
But your hatred of Froch is out of fear of him eclipsing Calzaghe's pathetic resume, which is sad :good
noonan
03-13-2010, 03:20 PM
Thing is if JC did come out of retirement took a UD against Froch, people would say Froch was past it, took too many big shots, lost his punch resistance and never that good , ala Lacy!
icemax
03-13-2010, 03:20 PM
I swear down if Froch stops Kessler I am gonna travel to Wales and find this cunt and laugh in his fucking face about how the COBRA did what he couldn't. He's a fucking bell end
Swing by Doncaster first and i'll share the cab fare :deal
Beeston Brawler
03-13-2010, 03:21 PM
They have taxis in Doncaster?
Dan684
03-13-2010, 03:22 PM
:rofl
Doncaster, why the fuck would you be scared of going into a pub up there in that place ? Unless of course (with it being the HIV capital of the UK) it's full of old slappers :-(
Beeston Brawler
03-13-2010, 03:25 PM
:rofl
Doncaster, why the fuck would you be scared of going into a pub up there in that place ? Unless of course (with it being the HIV capital of the UK) it's full of old slappers :-(
Says the cunt from Manchester :nut
I swear this forum is turning into the lounge - about five posts related to boxing and the rest is just a shit load of baiting.
Dan684
03-13-2010, 03:26 PM
Shut up you 'Webbed Feet'
Doncasters full of pussies :deal Infact so is everywhere is Yorkshire :hey
GazOC
03-13-2010, 03:26 PM
Says the cunt from Manchester :nut
I swear this forum is turning into the lounge - about five posts related to boxing and the rest is just a shit load of baiting.
I think Dans been on some sort of assertiveness training course.
kosaros
03-13-2010, 03:29 PM
...are you suggesting that Calzaghe is?, God sake, get a grip :-(
It would be unfair if you didn't rank him in the top 10 IMO.
Beeston Brawler
03-13-2010, 03:30 PM
Shut up you 'Webbed Feet'
Doncasters full of pussies :deal Infact so is everywhere is Yorkshire :hey
Faggit
:finger
From a patriotic point of view it's not great but Carl was drubbing Calzaghe left right and centre. So he obviously doesn't like him and doesn't want him to beat one of his finest victims.
Understandable in some ways.
Also I think there was a real mutual respect between Joe and Mikkel due to Mikkel been a real gent who comes to win but respectfully.
Dan684
03-13-2010, 03:32 PM
It's faggot not faggit :lol:
Stickandmove
03-13-2010, 03:32 PM
Do you all think AA will chin Dirrell after being messed about for a few rounds? I do.
I expect Dirrell to be VERY cautious - even more than he was against Froch. I expect him to steal a close, controversial decision on home soil which will keep the tournament very open.
Beeston Brawler
03-13-2010, 03:37 PM
It's faggot not faggit :lol:
Fill kettle.....
Insert head.....
:hi:
The Blackout
03-13-2010, 03:40 PM
Calzaghe is acting like a dick if this is true.
He's trying to do everything he can to stop Froch having a better resume - apart from of course, getting in the ring and doing the job himself.
(a) Carrying on slagging off another fighter from the safety of your retirement chair - sad.
(b) Helping foreign fighters with a strategy on how to defeat a BRITISH World Champion who you refused to fight - sad.
Dan684
03-13-2010, 03:40 PM
Bit Harsh that Luke :-(
Beeston Brawler
03-13-2010, 03:42 PM
Bit Harsh that Luke :-(
Hardly, compared to the abuse I'm gonna cop in four weeks time when Leeds are condemned to a playoff place :verysad
The Blackout
03-13-2010, 03:44 PM
Hardly, compared to the abuse I'm gonna cop in four weeks time when Leeds are condemned to a playoff place :verysad
We're blowing it again. Knew it would happen though. Typical Leeds.
Hardly, compared to the abuse I'm gonna cop in four weeks time when Leeds are condemned to a playoff place :verysad
Is that for the conference?
Beeston Brawler
03-13-2010, 03:46 PM
We're blowing it again. Knew it would happen though. Typical Leeds.
Do you go much?
Primadonna Kool
03-13-2010, 03:49 PM
Ive said it since Day One..
Joe Calzaghe comes out of retirement, to fight Froch...! If he beats Kessler..
The Blackout
03-13-2010, 03:51 PM
Do you go much?
Had a season ticket for a few years up until this season. Was fed up of Ken ripping me off and us always getting beat in the play offs :lol:
Beeston Brawler
03-13-2010, 03:53 PM
I've not had one for years.
I can always tell whether they are winning or losing judging by the noise from the ground :nut
The Blackout
03-13-2010, 04:10 PM
I've not had one for years.
I can always tell whether they are winning or losing judging by the noise from the ground :nut
Yeah, my uncle used to live in Beeston and he used to say the same. I'm over Middleton way so not a million miles from the ground. It's only ever half full though so it's getting harder and harder to hear the crowd from here :lol:
Beeston Brawler
03-13-2010, 04:16 PM
Yeah, my uncle used to live in Beeston and he used to say the same. I'm over Middleton way so not a million miles from the ground. It's only ever half full though so it's getting harder and harder to hear the crowd from here :lol:
:yep
They've completely blown it.
Beating them scum cunts totally fucked the season up.
Make sure you give Dan684 as much stick as possible ::hey
:yep
They've completely blown it.
Beating the finest club in europe totally fucked the season up.
They're still dining out on that victory now :hat
Dan684
03-13-2010, 04:20 PM
I wish No Mas was on here to read what you just described United as :deal
Dan684
03-13-2010, 04:20 PM
Too late Luke, I seen it
Beeston Brawler
03-13-2010, 04:23 PM
Seen what?
All that fucker has done is quote me and edit what is within the quote.
I'd NEVER acknowledge you scum bastards as the #1.
Never.
Dan684
03-13-2010, 04:28 PM
I seen it
Peter Ridsdale was a MUFC fan.......secretly
Too late Luke, I seen it
I seen it
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
slip&counter
03-13-2010, 05:13 PM
The way Joe's been putting it about, maybe he's putting it on Mikkells sister and she's ordered him to help out little bro. Lol Who could blame him if he has got together with her though.
I've said this before but when I was doing research a few months back on just how Ward could beat Kessler i got off to a good start by watching Calzaghe throw in different gears of that left cross working off a measured jab. But then my research completely stalled after checking out Mikkel's web page because all i've been doing since is figuring out how to get the niece's face on sis' body LOL! To see what i'm on about, on Mikkel's site which is his full name plus the (.) com, under the "Galleri" link is the tab on "family". Check out his older sis in the blue top. Whoever said the Swiss Alps are not in Denmark was a goddamn liar lol. Those are the heavy bags that sprained Calzaghe's wrist before the first RJJ date was set....I'm sure of it lol! that's his big sis and the girl in black is his 18 year old niece.
I said gaaat damn!
The Blackout
03-13-2010, 05:21 PM
They way Joe's been putting it about, maybe he's putting it on Mikkells sister and she's ordered him to help out little bro. Lol Who could blame him if he has got together with her though.
I've said this before but when I was doing research a few months back on just how Ward could beat Kessler i got off to a good start by watching Calzaghe throw in different gears of that left cross working off a measured jab. But then my research completely stalled after checking out Mikkel's web page because all i've been doing since is figuring out how to get the niece's face on sis' body LOL! To see what i'm on about, on Mikkel's site which is his full name plus the (.) com, under the "Galleri" link is the tab on "family". Check out his older sis in the blue top. Whoever said the Swiss Alps are not in Denmark was a goddamn liar lol. Those are the heavy bags that sprained Calzaghe's wrist before the first RJJ date was set....I'm sure of it lol! that's his big sis and the girl in black is his 18 year old niece.
I said gaaat damn!
:rofl
The way Joe's been putting it about, maybe he's putting it on Mikkells sister and she's ordered him to help out little bro. Lol Who could blame him if he has got together with her though.
I've said this before but when I was doing research a few months back on just how Ward could beat Kessler i got off to a good start by watching Calzaghe throw in different gears of that left cross working off a measured jab. But then my research completely stalled after checking out Mikkel's web page because all i've been doing since is figuring out how to get the niece's face on sis' body LOL! To see what i'm on about, on Mikkel's site which is his full name plus the (.) com, under the "Galleri" link is the tab on "family". Check out his older sis in the blue top. Whoever said the Swiss Alps are not in Denmark was a goddamn liar lol. Those are the heavy bags that sprained Calzaghe's wrist before the first RJJ date was set....I'm sure of it lol! that's his big sis and the girl in black is his 18 year old niece.
I said gaaat damn!
Pics or STFU:deal
Grant1
03-13-2010, 05:59 PM
Everybody thought it was great that Froch and Pascal formed a bond after their fight that resulted in Pascal helping Froch in his preperation for the Dirrell fight.
Calzaghe and Kessler have something similar, Calzaghe is a knob?
Dan, you said in another thread that nationality has nothing to do with what fighters you like/dislike.
Then, in your first post in this thread you slag Joe for having the same outlook as yourself.
Have a word with yourself :good
realsoulja
03-13-2010, 06:08 PM
LOL
Calzaghe's resume is getting shittier and shittier as the Super 6 goes forward.
So Calzaghe plans to some how get himself involved hoping his help to Kessler would be seen as a major factor if Kessler beats Froch. Then he can say some shit about Froch to make himself happy.
However if Froch beats Kessler, which I think majority of us are hoping for, Froch can talk shit about Calzaghe.
So Calzaghe is taking a risk, if Kessler wins Calzaghe says It was coz of me
If Froch wins, Froch says what he wants
brown bomber
03-13-2010, 06:38 PM
Desperate..
slip&counter
03-13-2010, 06:44 PM
FFS I've forgotten how to post a pic.
toffeejack
03-13-2010, 06:56 PM
Yeah and this is good for British boxing isn't it Joe ? You fucking hypocritical Welsh prick. Fuck off back to obscurity with your Dad you fucking bell end.
Firstly what's with the 'Welsh Prick'. We all know you hate him but why bring the fact that he is Welsh into it? :huh
And I thought you didn't think nationality was a factor when it came to boxing? Maybe it is you who is the hypocritical prick.
Dan684
03-13-2010, 07:18 PM
Grant Toffe. wasn't Joe the one saying British Boxing is dying, and i hope Froch does well because he's british blah blah blah. He's a fucking nob PERIOD....
And Toffee you seem to have misinterpreted my post..... Calzaghe is Welsh and a prick therefore it makes him a Welsh Prick :good Nothing against the welsh
icemax
03-13-2010, 07:28 PM
They have taxis in Doncaster?
Fuck off BB...we've also got an airport...with planes :deal
NO MAS
03-13-2010, 08:14 PM
I wish No Mas was on here to read what you just described United as :deal
I am here lads...:hi:
Manure Scum Cunts all in one sentence...:thumbsup
Dan684
03-13-2010, 08:57 PM
:yep
They've completely blown it.
Beating the finest club in europe totally fucked the season up.
Did you read Luke's comment :yep
p.Townend
03-13-2010, 10:30 PM
Joe clearly thinks Mikkel is the better guy,you could tell he had a lot of respect for Kessler after thier fight.I dont see anything wrong with him helping Kessler.He can help who he wants and he hates Froch so why would he do anything for him.
NO MAS
03-14-2010, 03:55 AM
Did you read Luke's comment :yep
Has Luke been on a bender...:nut I can't believe that Luke has been nut huggin Manure...:barf
icemax
03-14-2010, 04:10 AM
To be honest I wouldn't expect anything else from Calzaghe...the man is a vinegar hearted individual who would tip off the devil himself if he thought that it would enhance his reputation. Small town small man.
Beeston Brawler
03-14-2010, 06:45 AM
Has Luke been on a bender...:nut I can't believe that Luke has been nut huggin Manure...:barf
That's fucking bollocks.... my post was quoted and what I wrote within it was edited - go back a few pages to see what I really wrote :deal
It's just that sad cunt wanting attention - to say he's not worried about City he sure talks about them a lot :hey
JonRobo
03-14-2010, 06:59 AM
im hoping the old mikkel kessler is back for this 1!!!
Beeston Brawler
03-14-2010, 07:02 AM
:yep
They've completely blown it.
Beating them scum cunts totally fucked the season up.
Make sure you give Dan684 as much stick as possible ::hey
:deal:deal:deal
Emphasise the last line :hey
Max Molyneux
03-14-2010, 07:59 AM
He doesn't need to help Kessler. Kessler's basics are enough to KO Froch on their own.
Grant1
03-14-2010, 08:37 AM
Grant Toffe. wasn't Joe the one saying British Boxing is dying, and i hope Froch does well because he's british blah blah blah. He's a fucking nob PERIOD....
And Toffee you seem to have misinterpreted my post..... Calzaghe is Welsh and a prick therefore it makes him a Welsh Prick :good Nothing against the welsh
Dan, let's be honest, you lose all rationale as soon as Calzaghe comes into the conversation.
Would you honestly give Froch this amount of shit if he helped Pascsal prepare for Dawson?
I would say Clev or Bellew, but as you've said nationality makes no difference.
cityofgod
03-14-2010, 08:42 AM
Joe clearly thinks Mikkel is the better guy,you could tell he had a lot of respect for Kessler after thier fight.I dont see anything wrong with him helping Kessler.He can help who he wants and he hates Froch so why would he do anything for him.
maybe if Mikkel got in touch with Joe. but th truth is, Calzaghe broke his neck to get hold of Mikkel through his agent to offer advice an any help. joe's more bothered about protecting his precious reputation as the best super middleweight in uk and froch is eating alive all his record. after kessler gets tonked with two working hands in his own soil he will have to eat his own hat after all the chat about 'kessler is the best guy i foguht' bollocks.
Dan684
03-14-2010, 08:49 AM
Dan, let's be honest, you lose all rationale as soon as Calzaghe comes into the conversation.
Would you honestly give Froch this amount of shit if he helped Pascsal prepare for Dawson?
I would say Clev or Bellew, but as you've said nationality makes no difference.
Not at all mate and i'll accept that straight away. My comment about Nationality not coming into it is irrelevant here. I said nationality doesn't come into whether I like a fighter or not. I have also said before that if I liked both fighters I would obviously support the one from the UK. But I am different I AM A FAN of the sport. Calzaghe should be supporting Froch as a fellow Brit considering he's the one claiming how British Boxing is dying and how he wishes Froch all the best in the future NOW THAT HE'S RETIRED.
Calzaghe's main objective here is to A. keep his name in the headlines and B. Make sure that no more damage is done to his resume (Imagine the shit he'll kop if Froch KO's Kessler :good)
He's a bitter prick mate :good He had ample opportunities to put very good names on his list of general C+ fighters however he decided against it. That was his choice but he shouldn't be popping out of the woodwork every two minutes mouthing off about a Brit who is doing everything the right way, by fighting the very best constantly. I wouldn't mind if Calzaghe had of fought Dawson/Tarver/Johnson and got beat, at least he'd have had the balls. He's a disgrace to the sport and always was. The sport is now progressing without him and he doesn't like it hence him popping up with this kind of shit now and again
Grant1
03-14-2010, 09:15 AM
Not at all mate and i'll accept that straight away. My comment about Nationality not coming into it is irrelevant here. I said nationality doesn't come into whether I like a fighter or not.
That's all I wanted to know really. You have the same outlook; for you it's fine, for him it's not.
NoHomeJerome
03-14-2010, 09:25 AM
Calzaghe is a sad sad attention seeking little prick of a man.
Dan684
03-14-2010, 09:29 AM
That's all I wanted to know really. You have the same outlook; for you it's fine, for him it's not.
Spin my comments eh ? He's an ambassador for the sport in the UK. I'm not
He doesn't really wish Froch all the best does he ? NO
He can't really complain about British Boxing dying can he (even though it isn't) ? NO
He's a hypocritical, attention seeking prick - End Of :good
Grant1
03-14-2010, 09:37 AM
Spin my comments eh ? He's an ambassador for the sport in the UK. I'm not
So tell me where you draw the line?
What about trainers training foreign boxers to beat fellow brits?
Promoters?
What about Beckham playing for an Italian side against an English side?
There's many examples.
All ambassadors wanting Brit players/teams to lose.
I know where you draw the line.
It's when the name doesn't start with a 'J' and end with an 'oe Calzaghe'.
Going out now, talk later :good
Dan684
03-14-2010, 09:50 AM
So tell me where you draw the line?
What about trainers training foreign boxers to beat fellow brits?
Promoters? What about Beckham playing for an Italian side against an English side?
There's many examples.
All ambassadors wanting Brit players/teams to lose.
I know where you draw the line.
It's when the name doesn't start with a 'J' and end with an 'oe Calzaghe'.
Going out now, talk later :good
They have to earn a crust :good They are still in the business, and doing a job they have to do. Calzaghe is retired and has no reason to intently go out of his way to help in Froch's demise. Plain and simple
Same again, he has no choice about who he plays IN A TEAM GAME. It's like him going to Barcelona and saying I tell you what Frank, 'll give you tips on how to beat United in the CL Final
Listen you know I don't like the fella but this is a low move mate :good
Hope you have a nice day out :good
onourway
03-14-2010, 09:52 AM
How would Calzaghe be able to help anyway?
He's never fought Froch and he's not a trainer.
What a bizarre story.
GazOC
03-14-2010, 09:57 AM
Calzaghe doesn't like Froch, if he wants to give Kessler a few tips (and lets be honest we don't know the extent of the help or even if there was any help) then thats his choice.
I couldn't care less either way about Calzaghe but Froch must have made himself a PITA spouting off all the time in papers about fighting Calzaghe when everyone knew the fight was a complete non-starter at that time.
I don't blame Froch for doing it, he was just getting his name out there but I can also see why Calzaghe doesn't like him and may have "dropped a dime" to Kessler to chat about the fight.
GazOC
03-14-2010, 09:59 AM
How would Calzaghe be able to help anyway?
He's never fought Froch and he's not a trainer.
What a bizarre story.
If its true I can only think he'd have pointed out to Kessler things that happened in their fight that Kessler may want to make adjustments on?
Other than that the story just smacks of the promoters press office trying to get some column inches.
onourway
03-14-2010, 10:01 AM
What's Joe gonna tell him though?
"Well Mik, Froch has no head movement, keeps his hands down, wants to brawl with you, has good, accumulative power, but slow punches and a great chin"
Thanks for that Joe, we never picked up on any of that.
NO MAS
03-14-2010, 10:03 AM
:deal:deal:deal
Emphasise the last line :hey
Nice to see relationships at Old Trafford and Elland Road are on the up...:happy
Beeston Brawler
03-14-2010, 10:05 AM
Nice to see relationships at Old Trafford and Elland Road are on the up...:happy
:lol:
GazOC
03-14-2010, 10:07 AM
When did this turn into the Choi Thread Mark II?
NO MAS
03-14-2010, 10:24 AM
When did this turn into the Choi Thread Mark II?
Fair point Gaz...:yep
I am just doing a bit of peace keeping...:good
'Ben'
03-14-2010, 10:31 AM
Seems quite pathetic to me if true. I can't imagine Calzaghe doing for any other reason than because he hates Froch and is just being petty. I know he has respect for Kessler but I doubt they're close friends or anything. Maybe I'm wrong but who knows either way though? If so though, Calzaghe is just better off just coming out of retirment to face Froch himself. It saves him looking less like a twit than he has done in recent times that's for sure. Froch will have to beat Kessler first though!
Dan684
03-14-2010, 10:50 AM
Ben it's pretty obvious to me that they're not good friends nor are they even in any kind of contact considering the prick had to go through Kesslers agent :deal
46and0
03-14-2010, 10:56 AM
Has this been verified as truth? If not, I fully expect the naysayers to offer Mr Calzaghe a full and frank apology.
Dan684
03-14-2010, 11:00 AM
:rofl
I'll admit that maybe I was wrong for calling him a prick this time but thats it ! He's still a prick
46and0
03-14-2010, 11:01 AM
:rofl
I'll admit that maybe I was wrong for calling him a prick this time but thats it ! He's still a prick
:lol:
GazOC
03-14-2010, 11:02 AM
Has this been verified as truth? If not, I fully expect the naysayers to offer Mr Calzaghe a full and frank apology.
Its been fully confirmed by the Internet.
Dan684
03-14-2010, 11:03 AM
Thats a good enough reason to vilify Calzaghe for me :good
DOM5153
03-14-2010, 11:08 AM
Thats a good enough reason to vilify Calzaghe for me :good
you love him really:think
GazOC
03-14-2010, 11:09 AM
Thats a good enough reason to vilify Calzaghe for me :good
One of these days I'm going to start a thread called "David Haye admits to eating babies", stick a made up link to the "article" (no one clicks the fuckers anyway) and see how many people make their mind up on the issue just from reading the thread title...;)
'Ben'
03-14-2010, 11:27 AM
Ben it's pretty obvious to me that they're not good friends nor are they even in any kind of contact considering the prick had to go through Kesslers agent :deal
Welll in that case it's just pathetic. It must also mean he's pretty insecure about himself and should just come back and fight Froch himself rather than doing these bitch moves.
NO MAS
03-14-2010, 11:31 AM
you love him really:think
When Mitchell takes care of Katsidis in May you will see Dan's love of Joe Calzaghe for 60 days...:good
Dan684
03-14-2010, 11:31 AM
That is never ever happening. Mitchell's getting beat and I really REALLY don't love Calzaghe
cityofgod
03-14-2010, 12:00 PM
Has this been verified as truth? If not, I fully expect the naysayers to offer Mr Calzaghe a full and frank apology.
Half the sites in denmark mention it - i cant see kessler's manager lying about it.
slip&counter
03-14-2010, 12:39 PM
Can't beleive all this hate for Calzaghe, it must stop.
Joe had a style that nobody could figure out. The guy who was supposed to be his air apparent he boxed circles around mid way through the fight to the bell and laid the blueprint. Jeff Lacy got raped by Joe like a prostitute in a back alley lol Bernard for the first time ever got confused from Joe's tricky style. Joe is a great fighter, a future HOF and he dominated his division for 13 years so he's got my support!
Boro chris
03-14-2010, 12:46 PM
Can't beleive all this hate for Calzaghe, it must stop.
Joe had a style that nobody could figure out. The guy who was supposed to be his air apparent he boxed circles around mid way through the fight to the bell and laid the blueprint. Jeff Lacy got raped by Joe like a prostitute in a back alley lol Bernard for the first time ever got confused from Joe's tricky style. Joe is a great fighter, a future HOF and he dominated his division for 13 years so he's got my support!
Yup. Objectivity goes out the room whenever Joe's name is brought up. Not sure I've read a reasoned debate on him.
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