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Superheavyweight
10-07-2007, 11:12 AM
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marauder1999
10-07-2007, 11:14 AM
Looks like he will have more time with his hobbies in the future then after Kessler dismantles him.
Amsterdam
10-07-2007, 11:41 AM
Have to admire his will, he really will go through hell not to lose.
marauder1999
10-07-2007, 11:45 AM
Have to admire his will, he really will go through hell not to lose.
But he still will.
pipe wrenched
10-07-2007, 11:47 AM
I took out of that article that he has doubts against Kessler. I also don't think it helps with him saying how important his 0 is to him, you know with his resume always being brought up.
He will go through hell, but still loose, and he now it!
Amsterdam
10-07-2007, 11:54 AM
But he still will.
He'll decision Kessler wide and take Pavlik out in 3 rounds, so everything is covered mate.
JC doesn't lose.;)
Not to what's available and Kessler is the 2nd best from 160-175 crop, even better than Dawson overall.
Rollo
10-07-2007, 12:13 PM
Calzaghe knows he can´t win this fight - it shows between the lines.
PolishPummler
10-07-2007, 12:15 PM
"I don't know what I'd do if I lost," he said. "My unbeaten record would go and that's important to me."
And that's why he has been facing BUMS his entire career.
Amsterdam
10-07-2007, 12:17 PM
"I don't know what I'd do if I lost," he said. "My unbeaten record would go and that's important to me."
And that's why he has been facing BUMS his entire career.
:lol:
How do you explain the top names avoiding him blatantly then?
PolishPummler
10-07-2007, 12:18 PM
:lol:
How do you explain the top names avoiding him blatantly then?
Such as....
Max Molyneux
10-07-2007, 12:19 PM
When Kessler loses what chump will you people pick to beat Joe next?
Rollo
10-07-2007, 12:21 PM
:lol:
How do you explain the top names avoiding him blatantly then?
:nut
THE topname is coming to Joe´s own backyard to face him - because Joe´s afraid to anywhere.
Amsterdam
10-07-2007, 12:24 PM
Such as....
At the time -
Ottke, Beyer. Offers sent to Jones and Hopkins on their terms, Calzaghe not enough of a draw, fair enough. I even believe DM was sent a pretty good offer, turned it down.
After Lacy -
Offers sent all over the place for fights in the US to every big name possible, after Lacy Calzaghe is finally a money draw after blasting a US fighter to hell and back and no luck, there will be no luck, Calzaghe is a bitch fight for anyone.
Hopkins and Taylor being the big ones obviously, Taylor having the oppurtunity to make 5-6 million in Las Vegas, Hopkins even more, no deal though.
Then they go after Kessler, was a bitch to get that inked with the right money from Palle's end. Want to fault him and ****** for specifically targetting Kessler after the big American names wanted no part of the action?
GazOC
10-07-2007, 12:25 PM
:nut
THE topname is coming to Joe´s own backyard to face him - because Joe´s afraid to anywhere.
Wouldn't you fight at home if you could sell 60,000 tickets?:nut
Amsterdam
10-07-2007, 12:25 PM
:nut
THE topname is coming to Joe´s own backyard to face him - because Joe´s afraid to anywhere.
No friend, because Joe only brings them money in the UK, goes for his end and the other. Hopkins turned down 2.5 million in 2001 - 2002 was it to go for Joppy for sub-500,000$.
Fighters don't want to lose a win streak no matter who they are, even the so called fearless ones.
PolishPummler
10-07-2007, 12:29 PM
At the time -
Ottke, Beyer. Offers sent to Jones and Hopkins on their terms, Calzaghe not enough of a draw, fair enough. I even believe DM was sent a pretty good offer, turned it down.
After Lacy -
Offers sent all over the place for fights in the US to every big name possible, after Lacy Calzaghe is finally a money draw after blasting a US fighter to hell and back and no luck, there will be no luck, Calzaghe is a bitch fight for anyone.
Hopkins and Taylor being the big ones obviously, Taylor having the oppurtunity to make 5-6 million in Las Vegas, Hopkins even more, no deal though.
Then they go after Kessler, was a bitch to get that inked with the right money from Palle's end. Want to fault him and ****** for specifically targetting Kessler after the big American names wanted no part of the action?
Yes let's take Frank's word for it.:thumbsup
Maybe he should target people that are in his weightclass.
How many times was he supposed to move up and take on a Clinton Woods or a Glen Johnson only to pull out.
Brutal fighters are usually ducked not slappers like Joe.
Face it he has a ton of title defense's yet Lacy was his only real huge challenge yourself type fight.And we all know how Lacy ended up.
PolishPummler
10-07-2007, 12:30 PM
BTW Joe wont leave home because he is worried about not getting one of his BS stoppages via a flurry of slaps that dont even land.
Amsterdam
10-07-2007, 12:31 PM
Yes let's take Frank's word for it.:thumbsup
Maybe he should target people that are in his weightclass.
How many times was he supposed to move up and take on a Clinton Woods or a Glen Johnson only to pull out.
Brutal fighters are usually ducked not slappers like Joe.
Face it he has a ton of title defense's yet Lacy was his only real huge challenge yourself type fight.And we all know how Lacy ended up.
He's also been a legitimately injured fighter for much of his career, was Vitali ducked a shit fighter like Rahman, or was he legitimately injured?
And you don't find Joe brutal? Christ mate, he fucks people up nasty.
GazOC
10-07-2007, 12:31 PM
Yes let's take Frank's word for it.:thumbsup
It was HBO who said that Hopkins deliberatly priced himself out of the fight after agreeing the purse.
Amsterdam
10-07-2007, 12:32 PM
BTW Joe wont leave home because he is worried about not getting one of his BS stoppages via a flurry of slaps that dont even land.
You aren't even being unbiased, this is not even worth discussing.
Max Molyneux
10-07-2007, 12:32 PM
Calzaghe Is Incapable of losing to someone with Kessler's style.
He added: "I don't reckon it'll be a scrap, he's more your typical European stand-up fighter - great boxing skills, straight lines, good punch - but I'm prepared for anything.
Joe also has the brain of Enzo Calzaghe.
Rollo
10-07-2007, 12:33 PM
At the time -
Ottke, Beyer. Offers sent to Jones and Hopkins on their terms, Calzaghe not enough of a draw, fair enough. I even believe DM was sent a pretty good offer, turned it down.
After Lacy -
Offers sent all over the place for fights in the US to every big name possible, after Lacy Calzaghe is finally a money draw after blasting a US fighter to hell and back and no luck, there will be no luck, Calzaghe is a bitch fight for anyone.
Hopkins and Taylor being the big ones obviously, Taylor having the oppurtunity to make 5-6 million in Las Vegas, Hopkins even more, no deal though.
Then they go after Kessler, was a bitch to get that inked with the right money from Palle's end. Want to fault him and ****** for specifically targetting Kessler after the big American names wanted no part of the action?
If we are talking Beyer avoiding Calzaghe then he is a TOP name! But if Calz-huggers are discussing Kessler KO win over same Beyer - then he is a BUM!
Come on - Kessler called out for Joe long before Joe even thought about fighting him!
Superheavyweight
10-07-2007, 12:34 PM
No friend, because Joe only brings them money in the UK, goes for his end and the other. Hopkins turned down 2.5 million in 2001 - 2002 was it to go for Joppy for sub-500,000$.
Fighters don't want to lose a win streak no matter who they are, even the so called fearless ones.You confuse me… who are you rooting for?
You’ve sported both Kessler and Calzaghe avatars.
PolishPummler
10-07-2007, 12:35 PM
You aren't even being unbiased, this is not even worth discussing.
Am i wrong?
Just about everyone of his TKO wins look the same.
Slap slap slap hometown ref stops the fight another TKO for Joe.
"I don't know what I'd do if I lost," he said. "My unbeaten record would go and that's important to me."
And that's why he has been facing BUMS his entire career.
:yep :yep Real spit main!^^^Kessler is going to win this fight I always thought he would but I never thought Calzone would fight him (and i know that he's fighting Calzahge) I jus call him Calzone but Calzahge thinks beating Jeff Lacy was his career defining moment but what he has to realize is that Jeff never really beat anybody either!
Toopretty
10-07-2007, 12:36 PM
BHOP..NEVER FUCKING DUCKED CALSLAPPY IN FUCKING 01. He is a fucking middleweight and Calzaghe 168. STFU you retarded monkey fucking retards.
Rollo
10-07-2007, 12:36 PM
Wouldn't you fight at home if you could sell 60,000 tickets?:nut
You could sell the same in Denmark.
Amsterdam
10-07-2007, 12:37 PM
If we are talking Beyer avoiding Calzaghe then he is a TOP name! But if Calz-huggers are discussing Kessler KO win over same Beyer - then he is a BUM!
Come on - Kessler called out for Joe long before Joe even thought about fighting him!
Why was it a bitch to get him and Palle to ink a deal then?
And if you haven't noticed, I rate Kessler and his accomplishments very highly, included that starching of Beyer, who nobody did that definitively.
Toopretty
10-07-2007, 12:37 PM
Kessler is going to knock that protected motherfucker out just b/c his fans have turned into maniacal retards over the last year or so. They used to be normal, I dont know WTF happend.
PolishPummler
10-07-2007, 12:37 PM
:yep :yep Real spit main!^^^Kessler is going to win this fight I always thought he would but I never thought Calzone would fight him (and i know that he's fighting Calzahge) I jus call him Calzone but Calzahge thinks beating Jeff Lacy was his career defining moment but what he has to realize is that Jeff never really beat anybody either!
Great win over Lacy no doubt but Lacy was no long time proven Champ.He never really beat a name during his run.Just a slew of fringe contenders.Look at Lacy now!True Champs are measured on how they bounce back after a loss.Lacy has done none of that.
Rollo
10-07-2007, 12:42 PM
Why was it a bitch to get him and Palle to ink a deal then?
And if you haven't noticed, I rate Kessler and his accomplishments very highly, included that starching of Beyer, who nobody did that definitively.
****** and Palle can´t stand each other, and none of them wanted to give an inch - that´s why.
Maybe you do - most don´t.
Great win over Lacy no doubt but Lacy was no long time proven Champ.He never really beat a name during his run.Just a slew of fringe contenders.Look at Lacy now!True Champs are measured on how they bounce back after a loss.Lacy has done none of that.
I always thought Jeff was one dimensional Mike Tyson-esc like he went out there just knowing he was going to knock out people because he looked tough but dude could never really fight to begin with. Calzaghe is a good fighter he slaps people around and that's impressive for a man to slap another man around and still be undefeated but Kessler punches people around accurately and hard it'll be to much for Joe to handle this go round.
boxfan99
10-07-2007, 01:33 PM
Kessler is going to knock that protected motherfucker out just b/c his fans have turned into maniacal retards over the last year or so. They used to be normal, I dont know WTF happend.
They now that they are nearing the end of the ride and just try to make the most of it.:yep Even Joe doesn't seem as confident as I would have thought judging by that article.:huh
Calzaghe ought to know that as long as he stays on his feet he will get the decision.
boxfan99
10-07-2007, 01:39 PM
Wouldn't you fight at home if you could sell 60,000 tickets?:nut
Let's stay real please, Calzaghe sells a lot of tickets, but he has never sold 60,000 tickets not even against Lacy, and I doubt that they'll even reach that number for the Kessler fight mainly due to fight time.
boxfan99
10-07-2007, 01:41 PM
You could sell the same in Denmark.
No, you can't. Where exactly would you place such a fight? Not in Parken that is for sure.
ThePlugInBabies
10-07-2007, 01:41 PM
Let's stay real please, Calzaghe sells a lot of tickets, but he has never sold 60,000 tickets not even against Lacy, and I doubt that they'll even reach that number for the Kessler fight mainly due to fight time.
it's kinda hard to fit 60,000 people in when you're fighting in a 21,000 capacity arena.
youthmann
10-07-2007, 01:47 PM
I'm a 100% MK fan - and I believe the MK wins the fight. But the fight will be close and can (honostly) go both ways.
I think it would be a shame if JC retires if he looses his 0. I´m certainly not a big fan of eubank but I agree in that a real champ also must be strong enough to eat a loss. Loosing is pretty much the best teacher to become in boxing. JC is too focused of the topic - losing. That very well be his downfall against MK.
Who ever wins the fight should offer the other a rematch in respect within the next 2 or 3 fights.
It's the 2 best in SMW (and MW) that are facing each other and somebodys 0 got to go.
MK is "only" 28 years of age - and he has at least 5 years back in prime time mode. One day he will lose a fight it is almost 100% sure. It is almost impossible to go through a big carrier without having a very bad day at least one time. A real champion comes back from a loss - with all his got - fighting to get his throne back. Thats boxing. If you haven't lost during a long carrier you simply havent done enough to fight the absolut best fighters.
I sure hope that (if MK wins) he will go straight after the IBF belt and fight who ever got the belt (hopefully Bute).Then after 2-3 titel defenses (inkin, frogh ....) he should go to LHW. If MK stops going for the belts and the best of the bests then he will lose me as a fan. But infact thats what I present like about this guy, he goes straight after what he wants (the belts) - afraid of nothing. Maybe he will lose a fight or two but what the hell - as long as we get some intense fights where the best fighters meet.
For now - I believe in the way of the - viking warrior.
Lets hope for a great historical fight the 3 nov.
boxfan99
10-07-2007, 01:47 PM
it's kinda hard to fit 60,000 people in when you're fighting in a 21,000 capacity arena.
Of course it is, but it doesn't prove that he could sell 60,000 tickets no matter what you would like to think.
ThePlugInBabies
10-07-2007, 01:57 PM
Of course it is, but it doesn't prove that he could sell 60,000 tickets no matter what you would like to think.
...and where in my post did i say he could?
boxfan99
10-07-2007, 02:43 PM
...and where in my post did i say he could?
You didn't, but GazOC did, and it was him my post (#35) was for. But since you responded to it with the 21,000 remark, I assumed you were of the same opinion as GazOC.
ThePlugInBabies
10-07-2007, 02:48 PM
You didn't, but GazOC did, and it was him my post (#35) was for. But since you responded to it with the 21,000 remark, I assumed you were of the same opinion as GazOC.
nope, i was just pointing out that your example was a little, well rubbish.
mattress
10-07-2007, 02:53 PM
Great win over Lacy no doubt but Lacy was no long time proven Champ.He never really beat a name during his run.Just a slew of fringe contenders.Look at Lacy now!True Champs are measured on how they bounce back after a loss.Lacy has done none of that.
So Hamed was not a 'true champ'? What a crock.
Smazz20
10-07-2007, 02:59 PM
If we are talking Beyer avoiding Calzaghe then he is a TOP name! But if Calz-huggers are discussing Kessler KO win over same Beyer - then he is a BUM!
Come on - Kessler called out for Joe long before Joe even thought about fighting him!
You find this surprising? An established champ getting called out by an up and coming boxer looking to make a name for himself. Do you honestly think that 2-3 years ago, Joe Calzaghe should of started calling out Mikkel Kessler? Dosen't work that way my good man.
JC was caling out Steve Collins for ages to get a fight with him. Not the other way around. Carl Froch has been calling out JC for the last 2 years and has done nothing to back up his claims bar beat what is now MK sparring partner.
boxfan99
10-07-2007, 03:03 PM
nope, i was just pointing out that your example was a little, well rubbish.
Fine.:roll: Do you believe Calzaghe could have sold 60,000 tickets for all his recent fights if they had had the stadium capacity to do it?
Smazz20
10-07-2007, 03:05 PM
Fine.:roll: Do you believe Calzaghe could have sold 60,000 tickets for all his recent fights if they had had the stadium capacity to do it?
No. He dosen't have the drawing power.
boxfan99
10-07-2007, 03:11 PM
No. He dosen't have the drawing power.
Exactly, very few people do.
At the time -
Ottke, Beyer. Offers sent to Jones and Hopkins on their terms, Calzaghe not enough of a draw, fair enough. I even believe DM was sent a pretty good offer, turned it down.
After Lacy -
Offers sent all over the place for fights in the US to every big name possible, after Lacy Calzaghe is finally a money draw after blasting a US fighter to hell and back and no luck, there will be no luck, Calzaghe is a bitch fight for anyone.
Hopkins and Taylor being the big ones obviously, Taylor having the oppurtunity to make 5-6 million in Las Vegas, Hopkins even more, no deal though.
Then they go after Kessler, was a bitch to get that inked with the right money from Palle's end. Want to fault him and ****** for specifically targetting Kessler after the big American names wanted no part of the action?
An example of buying into Frank ******'s propaganda. They all avoided Joe, why oh why did nobody come to Wales to fight him? :yep
Smazz20
10-07-2007, 04:00 PM
An example of buying into Frank ******'s propaganda. They all avoided Joe, why oh why did nobody come to Wales to fight him? :yep
Calzaghe fought once in Denmark and once in Germany.
Ottke never left Germany
Jones never left America
Taylor never left America
Hopkins fought once outside America
Lacy actually has the balls to travel and fight. Much as what Kessler is doing now. Calzaghe could and should of fought in the states more often, but he wouldn't of made as much money. Do you honestly hold that against him?
He has stated on several occasion that he'd fight Hopkins in Americ and even verbally agreed a deal with him only for, BHOP to change his mind.
bigeddie27
10-07-2007, 04:07 PM
Calzaghe fought once in Denmark and once in Germany.
Ottke never left Germany
Jones never left America
Taylor never left America
Hopkins fought once outside America
Lacy actually has the balls to travel and fight. Much as what Kessler is doing now. Calzaghe could and should of fought in the states more often, but he wouldn't of made as much money. Do you honestly hold that against him?
He has stated on several occasion that he'd fight Hopkins in Americ and even verbally agreed a deal with him only for, BHOP to change his mind.
Ricky Hatton (who WAS promoted by Frank btw) left ******, came to the states, and now has a mega-fight with the best pound-for-pound fighter of the world making more money than calzaghe has ever made. Let me ask you sir, why WOULDNT Calzaghe want to fight in the states if it was all about the money? slayed.
pipe wrenched
10-07-2007, 04:14 PM
Ricky Hatton (who WAS promoted by Frank btw) left ******, came to the states, and now has a mega-fight with the best pound-for-pound fighter of the world making more money than calzaghe has ever made. Let me ask you sir, why WOULDNT Calzaghe want to fight in the states if it was all about the money? slayed.
No doubt! And wouldn't only fighting in Brittain be more like a US fighter only fighting in Texas? Or no more than 2 or 3 large states?
Rollo
10-07-2007, 04:24 PM
No, you can't. Where exactly would you place such a fight? Not in Parken that is for sure.
Parken has around 45.000 seats for events like football and speedway, a small boxing ring would probably make space for an extra 15.000.
Calzaghe fought once in Denmark and once in Germany.
Ottke never left Germany
Jones never left America
Taylor never left America
Hopkins fought once outside America
Lacy actually has the balls to travel and fight. Much as what Kessler is doing now. Calzaghe could and should of fought in the states more often, but he wouldn't of made as much money. Do you honestly hold that against him?
He has stated on several occasion that he'd fight Hopkins in Americ and even verbally agreed a deal with him only for, BHOP to change his mind.
I don't hold his unwillingness to travel against him, just his soft opposition in his 10 years as champ.
Hops and Jones fought P4P level fighters, doesn't matter if the didn't leave the USA.
Jermain Taylor fought all comers and went out on his shield.
Ottke was a fraud.
Joe should have built a better resume sooner. :deal
Smazz20
10-07-2007, 04:34 PM
Ricky Hatton (who WAS promoted by Frank btw) left ******, came to the states, and now has a mega-fight with the best pound-for-pound fighter of the world making more money than calzaghe has ever made. Let me ask you sir, why WOULDNT Calzaghe want to fight in the states if it was all about the money? slayed.
Hatton is a popualr fighter, way more popular than Calzaghe. If Calzaghe did travel to the states and fight and make a bigger name for himself while Hatton satyed at home, Hatton would probably still make more money. Calzaghe couldn't bring 10,000 fans across the atlantic with him. Hatton is a massively marketable fighter. Calzaghe isn't.
Secondly, 168 is not a glamour division despite having good quality fighters in it. It's dominated by Europeans. Kessler v Calzaghe woudn't sell out any of the big arenas in America but it'd make an absolute mint over here. So even if he travelled to the states, who's he gonna fight? Hopkins? Nah, he'd rather face Junior middles up at 175.
The time for Calzaghe having travelled to America to earn major money is long gone. He could only hope for a "legacy" fight with Hopkins, though I find that doubtful. Pavlik or Dawson would be good fights, but he's not gonna make more money for them than he will for Kessler.
Smazz20
10-07-2007, 04:40 PM
I don't hold his unwillingness to travel against him, just his soft opposition in his 10 years as champ.
Hops and Jones fought P4P level fighters, doesn't matter if the didn't leave the USA.
Jermain Taylor fought all comers and went out on his shield.
Ottke was a fraud.
Joe should have built a better resume sooner. :deal
True, but personally, I don't think it's the lack of p4p fighters on Calzaghe's resume that hurts his rep so much, as the amount of shite on it such as Thornberry, Manfredo, McIntyre, Salem, Ashira. Having fights like that, whilst calling yourself the best is quite dumb. Yes, IMO, he should of went to the states much like any fighter should do, but the competetion wouldn't of been vastly different.
Rollo
10-07-2007, 04:41 PM
You find this surprising? An established champ getting called out by an up and coming boxer looking to make a name for himself. Do you honestly think that 2-3 years ago, Joe Calzaghe should of started calling out Mikkel Kessler? Dosen't work that way my good man.
JC was caling out Steve Collins for ages to get a fight with him. Not the other way around. Carl Froch has been calling out JC for the last 2 years and has done nothing to back up his claims bar beat what is now MK sparring partner.
Do you mean the WBO-champ:nut coming of recently wins aginst a hype-job, a journeyman and a tv-star?
Fuck Collins, fuck Froch - Kessler is the real deal, you know it, Calzaghe knows it, even Calz-huggers knows it - and Joe is dead scared if you can read between the lines in his latest statements.
pipe wrenched
10-07-2007, 04:41 PM
Yeah right ! Whats more believable ? Bernard Hopkins , A man who's fought every big name fighter of this generation , ducked Calzaghe ! Or , Calzaghe , A man who's fought nobody , ducked a great fighter ? :patsch
I'll go with the second choice.:good
True, but personally, I don't think it's the lack of p4p fighters on Calzaghe's resume that hurts his rep so much, as the amount of shite on it such as Thornberry, Manfredo, McIntyre, Salem, Ashira. Having fights like that, whilst calling yourself the best is quite dumb. Yes, IMO, he should of went to the states much like any fighter should do, but the competetion wouldn't of been vastly different.
He could have fought better fighters at home. I agree, they didn't need to be P4P level, but a few Lucass, Catley-type fighters (perhaps while they held titles) would have done wonders.
Smazz20
10-07-2007, 04:46 PM
Yeah right ! Whats more believable ? Bernard Hopkins , A man who's fought every big name fighter of this generation , ducked Calzaghe ! Or , Calzaghe , A man who's fought nobody , ducked a great fighter ? :patsch
He fought one elite fighter in Roy Jones. He lost. Nothing shameful in that.
He fought ODLH, a man who started at SF and who couldn't even convincingly beat a euro level fighter in Sturm. He shut out Trinidad, but again, that's man who started way below 160.
Then he jumped 168 altogether to fight Tarver. Are you of the opinion that Tarver is a great fighter? Do you believe Tarver was more of a threat to Hopkins than Calzaghe?
What you decide to believe is entirely up to you, but I'm just going by the reports i've heard and read. Another thing. Why, if Hopkins has fought every great fighter of his generation and isn't afraid to fight anyone, did he never rematch Jones?
Smazz20
10-07-2007, 04:49 PM
Do you mean the WBO-champ:nut coming of recently wins aginst a hype-job, a journeyman and a tv-star?
Fuck Collins, fuck Froch - Kessler is the real deal, you know it, Calzaghe knows it, even Calz-huggers knows it - and Joe is dead scared if you can read between the lines in his latest statements.
Actually he sounded exactly the same in the lead up to the Lacy fight. It was in Boxing Montlhly and he was saying that if he lost the fight that he'd either retire or move to LH.
What's wrong with being afraid of a viking:D
boxfan99
10-07-2007, 04:52 PM
Parken has around 45.000 seats for events like football and speedway, a small boxing ring would probably make space for an extra 15.000.
Parken can't be configured to hold that many people as far as I know. It was not even possible when the eurovision song contest were held in Parken, and a song stage doesn't take up that much more space.
Edit: But let us say it was possible just for the sake of the argument. The fight would still not sell 60,000 tickets in Denmark. Boxing is simply not popular enough to draw such a big number of spectators for such a small country. Only soccer would be big enough to draw 60,000 people in Denmark and then it still had to be a very big match.
boxfan99
10-07-2007, 05:04 PM
Actually he sounded exactly the same in the lead up to the Lacy fight. It was in Boxing Montlhly and he was saying that if he lost the fight that he'd either retire or move to LH.
What's wrong with being afraid of a viking:D
Didn't he try to postpone the Lacy fight in the last moment?
Smazz20
10-07-2007, 05:06 PM
Didn't he try to postpone the Lacy fight in the last moment?
He postponed it twice beforehand. He was told if he postponed it again, that it would more or less be the end of his career.
Rollo
10-07-2007, 05:08 PM
Actually he sounded exactly the same in the lead up to the Lacy fight. It was in Boxing Montlhly and he was saying that if he lost the fight that he'd either retire or move to LH.
What's wrong with being afraid of a viking:D
La Hoya?
Absolutely nothing!
Btw - because of the exitement from the upcoming fight I might be a bit rude from time to time, but there´s no hard feelings - just to clear things up.........:good
Smazz20
10-07-2007, 05:18 PM
Yes tarver was a bigger threat at the tme . He was a bigger man , a harder puncher and the champ in a higher division . Are you really critisizing Hopkins for not rematching Jones ? Never mind rematch , Let's see Calzaghe actually get in the ring with someone . This guy is 43 years old and calling out Calzaghe now !
LMAO. Pure bullshit. Hopkins is big man himself and 10 times the figher that Tarver ever was. Yes Hopkins was underdog, and I myself picked Tarver to win a close ud maybe even a sd. But that was due to Hopkins age. Not to do with ability, weight or his losses to Taylor.
Yes, I am critiscising Hopkins for not rematching Jones. He had plenty of time to do it. Someone else on here said it before that BHOP was offered in the region of 6 million dollars for the fight, but turned it down to fight some loser for only half a mil. Does that sound like ducking to you?
Why wouldn't he call out Calzaghe now. At this stage Hopkins has loads to gain by winning and nothing to lose whereas Calzaghe is the complete opposite.
Rollo
10-07-2007, 05:26 PM
Parken can't be configured to hold that many people as far as I know. It was not even possible when the eurovision song contest were held in Parken, and a song stage doesn't take up that much more space.
Edit: But let us say it was possible just for the sake of the argument. The fight would still not sell 60,000 tickets in Denmark. Boxing is simply not popular enough to draw such a big number of spectators for such a small country. Only soccer would be big enough to draw 60,000 people in Denmark and then it still had to be a very big match.
Ofcause you´re right - the bigger country, the more people, the more money.........
boxfan99
10-07-2007, 05:27 PM
He postponed it twice beforehand. He was told if he postponed it again, that it would more or less be the end of his career.
Looks like Calzaghe has some confidence problems, because he was obviously not hurt when he tried to postpone it the third time. This would also explain why the zero, and the feeling of invincibility that comes along with it, is so important to the guy. I think he will quit his career if he should lose against Kessler, though I hope I'm wrong. I would still love to see him beat an old Hopkins, a Taylor or a Pavlik just to shut up certain people who think everything good in the boxing world comes from the US.:yep
Smazz20
10-07-2007, 05:38 PM
Looks like Calzaghe has some confidence problems, because he was obviously not hurt when he tried to postpone it the third time. This would also explain why the zero, and the feeling of invincibility that comes along with it, is so important to the guy. I think he will quit his career if he should lose against Kessler, though I hope I'm wrong. I would still love to see him beat an old Hopkins, a Taylor or a Pavlik just to shut up certain people who think everything good in the boxing world comes from the US.:yep
To be honest, I always felt the same about Calzaghe. That if he lost, he'd retire, which would be a shame. Even if Kessler pulls of a miracle of biblical proportions and beats Calzaghe:yep , then I still think JC has more to offer. Whether he wants a rematch with Kessler or just move to LH for a couple of fights against Dawson and Hopkins.
It also goes to show, that the longer you go undefeated, the more pressure builds up. Part of me thinks that's why Hatton is fighting Mayweather. He knows he's the MAJOR underdog, but if/when (I hope he wins) he loses, he hasn't anything to be ashamed of as he's lost to the best fighter in the world. I personally feel that it would of been better for JC to of lost early on in his career and get it out of the way. Kinda like David Haye. It probably would of cut his haters in half as most of them seem to just hate the fact that he's udefeated.
Korn_06
10-08-2007, 12:38 AM
Many of the fighters that are considered GREAT has moved up and down trough many weight division, the place for megafights are in USA. I think any Euro fighter that want to become GREAT also knows that this means fighting in the US. Now JC has been stuck in the near vicinity of Wales and he has been stuck at 168, meanwhile we are supposed to believe that all other fighters has ducked him.
I think that JC could have done a lot more with his career than he did. Even if you would have to put in a loss or two. The fact that he has been sitting on the WBO belt for 10 years also shows a weakness - he has been too static.
Amsterdam
10-08-2007, 12:46 AM
Calzaghe is the original 'supernatural', he doesn't lose and won't. It's time to realise this everyone, it would be a good group effort to do so.
I know it's hard.
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