Choc's next fight.......

[ashley]

....wont be for the WBA International MW title :think

Boxrec shows that this title is NOW VACANT :admin

Hassan N'dam N'Jikan 22 - 0 (15) v Elvin Alya 20 - 4 (9) will fight for Mundines old title

Very interesting....who is choc fighting, what weight and for what title :pop

[IrnBruMan]

I'm sure you'll let us know your imaginings on the matter ashley :yep

[Contendo]

....wont be for the WBA International MW title :think

Boxrec shows that this title is NOW VACANT :admin

Hassan N'dam N'Jikan 22 - 0 (15) v Elvin Alya 20 - 4 (9) will fight for Mundines old title

Very interesting....who is choc fighting, what weight and for what title :pop


Interesting for you.... :lol:

[ashley]

Interesting for you.... :lol:

I see you couldnt resist looking :deal

[IrnBruMan]

Ridiculous really, considering the WBA International MW belt was what apparently made his fight with Medley so important :lol:

I would have thought holding that belt would have made him more desirable as an opponent to the top 5 of the WBA and other feds, but no, he's vacated it to avoid having to fight Hasbeen and Elvira :yep

[the beaver]

You wouldn't believe it but just saw Garth "In the Hood" Wood walking down Pitt St at lunch, didn't realise it until he actually walked past.

Fuxk i shld have asked him if he's fighting Mundine :patsch.

[ashley]

You wouldn't believe it but just saw Garth "In the Hood" Wood walking down Pitt St at lunch, didn't realise it until he actually walked past.

Fuxk i shld have asked him if he's fighting Mundine :patsch.

No hes not but he is on the undercard...source = Cedrichw

[ashley]

Ridiculous really, considering the WBA International MW belt was what apparently made his fight with Medley so important :lol:

I would have thought holding that belt would have made him more desirable as an opponent to the top 5 of the WBA and other feds, but no, he's vacated it to avoid having to fight Hasbeen and Elvira :yep

Hassem is a very good fighter mate...dont see that the risk reward is worth it at this stage.....1 more win and choc will be in line to fight Pavlik :hey

[Contendo]

Hassem is a very good fighter mate...dont see that the risk reward is worth it at this stage.....1 more win and choc will be in line to fight Pavlik :hey


Not this shit again Ash.... :lol:

[ashley]

Not this shit again Ash.... :lol:

Just remember....1 more win :D

I will remind you of this when it gets made :lol:

[Sox]

Just remember....1 more win :D

I will remind you of this when it gets made :lol:
I guess that means we shouldn't hold our breath? :yep

[ashley]

I guess that means we shouldn't hold our breath? :yep

Not long now mate :pop:pop

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

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...and based on things so far, there always will be!

[Kegsy]

How about WBA Interim Middleweight Title????:yep

[ashley]

How about WBA Interim Middleweight Title????:yep

Is that the regular type :hey

[Kegsy]

Is that the regular type :hey
Who knows what they are called with the WBA these days....:yep

[Kegsy]

Decent choice of opponent by Mundine i must say...i honestly wouldnt think i would be saying this a few months ago.

[ashley]

Decent choice of opponent by Mundine i must say...i honestly wouldnt think i would be saying this a few months ago.

You mean this guy?

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[cedrichw]

It will be a great fight or a great choice anyway but am sure plenty will bag it no matter what

[Kegsy]

You mean this guy?

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:lol:

[raff]

i think he will pick someone he can ko, i think his lack of knockouts is getting to him.

[goodnight]

i think he will pick someone he can ko, i think his lack of knockouts is getting to him.

that narrows the list quite considerably.....

[ashley]

that narrows the list quite considerably.....

:lol:......however I dont think the WBA top 15 has any easy KO fights for choc

[LeonMcS]

Its this guy.

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[ashley]

Its this guy.

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I had heard hes making a come back :good

[Kegsy]

Its this guy.

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But he's not Argentinian.:nono

[LeonMcS]

Don't be cruel.

[20a87]

Hassem is a very good fighter mate...dont see that the risk reward is worth it at this stage.....1 more win and choc will be in line to fight Pavlik :hey

You are right, the only certainty is that it will be another move designed to force "the ghost" to give the world what it wants - a mundine vs pavlik shootout.

[IrnBruMan]

Don't be cruel.

:lol:

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Its this guy.

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Pity he's retired Leon.

Heard he was a Flamin' Star.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Next to no speculation in the media (or the Net) about who Mundine's next opponent's likely to be - feeling from that is it's unlikely to be a name of much note.

But hope we'll all be pleasantly surprised very shortly.

[20a87]

We all know mundine rarely fails to shock the world, and I think everyone knows 2010 is his year

[ashley]

Next to no speculation in the media (or the Net) about who Mundine's next opponent's likely to be - feeling from that is it's unlikely to be a name of much note.

But hope we'll all be pleasantly surprised very shortly.

Plenty of speculation going on here :lol:

I have a gut feel its a Falinga rematch :yep

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

plenty of speculation going on here

- but seriously, absolutely zip everywhere else ash.

i have a gut feel its a falinga rematch

- could be on the way to biggest trilogy involving an Aussie since 'the Hitman' vs Andries.



....not!

[boxoncottonon]

We all know mundine rarely fails to shock the world, and I think everyone knows 2010 is his year

:patsch

[ashley]

CHB......No news on chocs fight in the media because the press conference to release details of the fight to the media has not happend yet :yep

There are 2 clues an astute fellow such as yourself could follow so you would have a better idea of who he is fighting and for what....ok so you need to fill in some blanks....just think like a nut hugger and you will know who hes fighting :yep

Clue number 1 is first post in this thread :deal

[Sox]

We all know mundine rarely fails to shock the world, and I think everyone knows 2010 is his year
:rofl:rofl:rofl
Now that's good shit! :good

[boxoncottonon]

We all know mundine rarely fails to shock the world, and I think everyone knows 2010 is his year

Wierdo midget.

[20a87]

....not!

:patsch

:rofl:rofl:rofl
Now that's good shit! :good

Don't you think its time you guys started throwing support behind Australia's finest in the legacy defining years of his career. Mundine is icing his cake and it's time you guys picked up a piping bag and helped out.

:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb

[LeonMcS]

Someones been hitting the pipe all right.

[Francis75]

Stop this nonsense please. We all know the script by now. Anthony will be fighting some nobody with a respectable record on paper to fool the dumb, something like 21-5-2 (12 ko), unfortunately the guy will have fought his whole career somewhere like Venezuela and never beaten anyone with a winning record. Whenever this fighter had stepped up to c and d level opposition he has been stopped.

Do any of Mundine's fans on here have the cheek to say this won't happen.

[ashley]

Stop this nonsense please. We all know the script by now. Anthony will be fighting some nobody with a respectable record on paper to fool the dumb, something like 21-5-2 (12 ko), unfortunately the guy will have fought his whole career somewhere like Venezuela and never beaten anyone with a winning record. Whenever this fighter had stepped up to c and d level opposition he has been stopped.

Do any of Mundine's fans on here have the cheek to say this won't happen.

Pick me :hi::rasta

[20a87]

Stop this nonsense please. We all know the script by now. Anthony will be fighting some nobody with a respectable record on paper to fool the dumb, something like 21-5-2 (12 ko), unfortunately the guy will have fought his whole career somewhere like Venezuela and never beaten anyone with a winning record. Whenever this fighter had stepped up to c and d level opposition he has been stopped.

Do any of Mundine's fans on here have the cheek to say this won't happen.

I'm pretty sure mundines next opponent has had an ibo title fight at light middle (the belt choc by all rights should be wearing now) call that a clue, i'm sure more will surface

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Someones been hitting the pipe all right.

Combining the wearing of rose coloured glasses with the smoking of hooch usually results in dillusions of gradeur.

[patrick]

Considering the distain which Mundine treated the IBO with in recent times I for one would be extremely surprised if they accepted any sort of challenge for one of their belts.

I'm leaning towards a no name of South American extraction with roughly 25-4-2 record or thereabouts.

Why?

Because he's said it all before, he's done it all before and he'll do it all again.

And the dwindling fan base will swallow it all again!

[ashley]

Considering the distain which Mundine treated the IBO with in recent times I for one would be extremely surprised if they accepted any sort of challenge for one of their belts.

I'm leaning towards a no name of South American extraction with roughly 25-4-2 record or thereabouts.

Why?

Because he's said it all before, he's done it all before and he'll do it all again.

And the dwindling fan base will swallow it all again!

That looks like Manny Siaca record...your not having a chop at Greeny are you :hey

[Kegsy]

That looks like Manny Siaca record...your not having a chop at Greeny are you :hey
:lol:

[patrick]

Good pickup Ashley, and well diverted.

The similarities are there except for one wee factor.

Siaca is yet to beat Green.

In saying that, I'm sure he has fond memories of his last trip out here when he managed to expose a fraud.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Considering the distain which Mundine treated the IBO with in recent times I for one would be extremely surprised if they accepted any sort of challenge for one of their belts.

I'm leaning towards a no name of South American extraction with roughly 25-4-2 record or thereabouts.

Why?

Because he's said it all before, he's done it all before and he'll do it all again.

And the dwindling fan base will swallow it all again!

Some St Patrick's Day wisdom Patrick.

What's that they say about leopards and spots?

[ashley]

Good pickup Ashley, and well diverted.

The similarities are there except for one wee factor.

Siaca is yet to beat Green.

In saying that, I'm sure he has fond memories of his last trip out here when he managed to expose a fraud.

Fraud is a bit harsh mate...I mean..Mundine is a pro fighter...he did fight Kess and Green...gotta respect that.

Everybody in boxing talks it up...choc is just a bit better than the rest at it thats all....its all about hype :deal

[ashley]

Some St Patrick's Day wisdom Patrick.

What's that they say about leopards and spots?

Have you worked out who hes fighting yet or would you like the second clue :hey

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Not losing sleep over it actually Ash.

...unless of course it's a significant opponent.

...but based on history, how likely is that?

[ashley]

Not losing sleep over it actually Ash.

...unless of course it's a significant opponent.

...but based on history, how likely is that?

Not likely however stranger things have happened :D

[balmain]

No decision has been made on Chocs next fight because he is still having trouble running after his groin operation. He will make a decision himself in the next few days whether to fight in April or wait until June.

[the beaver]

No decision has been made on Chocs next fight because he is still having trouble running after his groin operation. He will make a decision himself in the next few days whether to fight in April or wait until June.

April or June ........... what happend to May :lol:

[ashley]

No decision has been made on Chocs next fight because he is still having trouble running after his groin operation. He will make a decision himself in the next few days whether to fight in April or wait until June.

I hope it's in April....however if he's not 100% no point in rushing it.

[IrnBruMan]

CHB......No news on chocs fight in the media because the press conference to release details of the fight to the media has not happend yet :yep

When was the press conference to announce he was chasing Pavlik then? :hey

[IrnBruMan]

Combining the wearing of rose coloured glasses with the smoking of hooch usually results in dillusions of gradeur.


Add the above to pre-existing conditions of autism and paranoia and you have one heck of a party :yep

[IrnBruMan]

I hope it's in April....however if he's not 100% no point in rushing it.

In other words, you don't have a fucking clue?

[ashley]

In other words, you don't have a fucking clue?

I dont know if hes 100% fit or not ready for April......I guess we will find out as Balmain said in a few days

["DJ"]

its Lester Ellis.. He has fought for the IBO JMW title!

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[COULDHAVEBEEN]

its Lester Ellis.. He has fought for the IBO JMW title!

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Lester turned 45 earlier this week...what a pity they were different weights and different eras.

["DJ"]

that never matters!!

(I do know that list and Wikipedia is crap BTW....)

[boxoncottonon]

I'm pretty sure mundines next opponent has had an ibo title fight at light middle (the belt choc by all rights should be wearing now) call that a clue, i'm sure more will surface

And this is exactly why you are treated with contempt.

Call that cleuless!

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

that never matters!!

(I do know that list and Wikipedia is crap BTW....)

I know where you're coming from DJ.

...it was a bloody disgrace they fought in 2002...should never have been allowed to happen!

[ashley]

And this is exactly why you are treated with contempt.

Call that cleuless!

Maybe hes talking about this guy :admin


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["DJ"]

well he has fought at 140, 147 and 154.. obviously a BIG JMW...

Woudlnt surprise me!

[goodnight]

zzzzzzzzz

its probably against lovemore

[ashley]

zzzzzzzzz

its probably against lovemore

Forgot about him :think

[scientia]

He's fighting Daniel Santos.

[ashley]

He's fighting Daniel Santos.

Great fight at 154 :good

[20a87]

I hope it's in April....however if he's not 100% no point in rushing it.

True. At this stage of his career it's important he has the legs to go 12, the difference between a 100% choc was evident in the medley fight in terms of movement and cutting off the ring. When compared with the falliga fight in which choc's hindrance allowed falliga more running room.

In other words, I don't have a fucking clue about anything except cat pictures.

Creepy Puppet :hi:, for someone that has me on ignore you seem to be able to see a lot of my posts :rofl. For someone that hates mundine you talk about him a great deal :rofl. Are you going to make any significant post on the subject of boxing before you hit 20k posts?

And this is exactly why you are treated with contempt.

Call that cleuless! :patsch

From your avatar, I can sense you know the score.

[LeonMcS]

You mean the Medley fight where Choc was complaining beforehand of a hip injury and said he wouldn't be 100%?

[20a87]

You mean the Medley fight where Choc was complaining beforehand of a hip injury and said he wouldn't be 100%?

he must be better than even i think :happy

[stiflers mum]

Marcus Beyer.

[ashley]

:pukke

























Someone must know whats going on with choc?

[IrnBruMan]

You fucken don't!!! :lol:

[ashley]

You fucken don't!!! :lol:


:blabla

[JOSEY WALES]

You fucken don't!!! :lol:


:lol: ,,,,Where is Balmain ? I'm begining to think he is the only one with scooby around here as regards to Mundine , Ash ? Nice kid but someone is treating him like a Mushroom , and making a fool out of him . :-(

[ashley]

:lol: ,,,,Where is Balmain ? I'm begining to think he is the only one with scooby around here as regards to Mundine , Ash ? Nice kid but someone is treating him like a Mushroom , and making a fool out of him . :-(

Ha-ha...cheeky JW

However it would be good to hear from Balmain to get his side of the story :hey

[20a87]

You fucken don't!!! :lol:

:lol: ,,,,Where is Balmain ? I'm begining to think he is the only one with scooby around here as regards to Mundine , Ash ? Nice kid but someone is treating him like a Mushroom , and making a fool out of him . :-(

cp and pervy phony

most people know just not you two :lol:

but then again neither of you care :roll:

[stiflers mum]

:pukke

























Someone must know whats going on with choc?
be patient.it will be announced when its announced.probably when this thread like the Mundines next opponent thread hits 30+ pages.

[boxoncottonon]

Why don't they bloody well announce it....I'm looking for a rabbit burrow to yell down, I can't keep it myself much longer.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

They know who they're targeting.

But from what Balmain said it's the post op. fitness issue that's delaying any announcement.

[ashley]

Why don't they bloody well announce it....I'm looking for a rabbit burrow to yell down, I can't keep it myself much longer.

What cant you keep any longer?

Is it the fact that you are coming out of the closet :yep

Congratz mate...welcome to the Mundine nut huggers club :good

[JOELCORE]

Well who are they looking at.

[ashley]

Well who are they looking at.

I don't know anymore (don't say it IrBruMan :D)...maybe Balmain can tell us :pop

[goodnight]

does anyone care?

[pecks]

I seriously doubt Andrade can make middle anyway.

[balmain]

Yes Ash I can tell you but please understand its not my job to be announcing who he fights. I am very well paid to get him ready. Because of his recent groin operation he his delaying our return to training. I am thinking of going to the football on friday night so if I do I will call by and see how hes going. Friday is the religious day for muslims so hopefully I will get a chance to speak to both him and Khoder at prayer. I will at least find out when they are going to announce his next fight.

[ashley]

does anyone care?

You love it mate....or you would have never clicked on the thread :yep

[flamengo]

Porky buzz you Balmain??

[Francis75]

It will be another shit opponent who doesn't have a hope in hell of beating Anthony. It will go the full 12 rounds though and guess what ?, you can have the pleasure of viewing this highly intriguing match-up for $50 in the comfort of your own home.

[ashley]

Yes Ash I can tell you but please understand its not my job to be announcing who he fights. I am very well paid to get him ready. Because of his recent groin operation he his delaying our return to training. I am thinking of going to the football on friday night so if I do I will call by and see how hes going. Friday is the religious day for muslims so hopefully I will get a chance to speak to both him and Khoder at prayer. I will at least find out when they are going to announce his next fight.

Yeah I know it's not your job to promo fights....and on public forums
before the fight is officially announced is a no no.

It would be good to know a date for the announcement....gives the fans something to look forward to :yep

We are all hoping it's a title fight against a top 5 fighter...something to shut the haters up :hi:

[balmain]

Yes Flamengo we spoke for an hour last night. Thank you so much for giving him my number. And one last thing. Hes a very big Anthony fan. And he thinks you are ok also.

[goodnight]

You love it mate....or you would have never clicked on the thread :yep

i click on all threads :hi:

[ashley]

i click on all threads :hi:


Yeah but nothing gets you excited like a new post in a Mundine thread :D

[balmain]

Francis75 the opponent Choc mentioned 3 days ago to me is a very talented fighter. The Mundine camp and family were both happy with his last performance. As this was our first fight together I think he boxed well but after watching the replay we both agreed there was so much more he could of done. Next fight will see a more aggressive Anthony Mundine. So maybe you might be better to save your money. I will let you know how it goes.

[flamengo]

Yes Flamengo we spoke for an hour last night. Thank you so much for giving him my number. And one last thing. Hes a very big Anthony fan. And he thinks you are ok also.

Lmao..

Porky is the games nicest assett. He said you're a great bloke too Balmain.. but Im not convinced .. lol

[ashley]

Francis75 the opponent Choc mentioned 3 days ago to me is a very talented fighter. The Mundine camp and family were both happy with his last performance. As this was our first fight together I think he boxed well but after watching the replay we both agreed there was so much more he could of done. Next fight will see a more aggressive Anthony Mundine. So maybe you might be better to save your money. I will let you know how it goes.

Sounds like great news all round :good

[Francis75]

Francis75 the opponent Choc mentioned 3 days ago to me is a very talented fighter. The Mundine camp and family were both happy with his last performance. As this was our first fight together I think he boxed well but after watching the replay we both agreed there was so much more he could of done. Next fight will see a more aggressive Anthony Mundine. So maybe you might be better to save your money. I will let you know how it goes.

I really hope so BUT i seriously doubt it. Has this " very talented fighter" ever beaten anybody ? does he fight in a lower weight class to Anthony ? Is he in his prime or years past it ? I guess we will find out soon enough. I like Anthony and will support him when/if he fights top level opposition. Unfortunately he continually fights a poor level of opposition.

[ashley]

I really hope so BUT i seriously doubt it. Has this " very talented fighter" ever beaten anybody ? does he fight in a lower weight class to Anthony ? Is he in his prime or years past it ? I guess we will find out soon enough. I like Anthony and will support him when/if he fights top level opposition. Unfortunately he continually fights a poor level of opposition.

I guess you would say Geale and Medley are talented fighters however Medley was out of his ideal weight class....however they are not "VERY TALENTED FIGHTERS".....are they :huh

Lets hope choc fights a live top 5 in the right weight division :deal

[20a87]

Francis75 the opponent Choc mentioned 3 days ago to me is a very talented fighter. The Mundine camp and family were both happy with his last performance. As this was our first fight together I think he boxed well but after watching the replay we both agreed there was so much more he could of done. Next fight will see a more aggressive Anthony Mundine. So maybe you might be better to save your money. I will let you know how it goes.

I thought he boxed very well against medley as I've said many times before his combination punching and general work rate were great. If he'd got medley out of there after he doubled him over it would have been better but I can't see many people at middle out boxing "the man" judging by the medley scrap.

[LeonMcS]

OK...but where would you rate Medley in the rankings as a Middleweight?

[ashley]

OK...but where would you rate Medley in the rankings as a Middleweight?

At the time of the choc fight

# 1 LM in AUST

# 7 MW in AUST

# 25 LMW...World

# 50 MW....World

[20a87]

OK...but where would you rate Medley in the rankings as a Middleweight?

As good enough to fight for the WBA international belt.

I think it's weird how in the various aussie forum "bitchfests" going on in the seemingly small boxing community that the people claiming to be doing the most good for the sport in terms of distribution paid or not are so very quick to discredit any aussie fighter that mundine happens to paste inside the ring. There are various domestic fighters I have a disdain for e.g. froch but I still give him some credit, but the mundine witch hunt conducted by the guys so seemingly active in the australian boxing world is a massive contradiction and gets more laughable with each stupid post. No one gives boxing more exposure in your country than "the man", time to start supporting him :bbb

[LeonMcS]

Thank you Ash...even though the LMW numbers look nice, they weren't really part of the equation were they?

Anyhow, don't really feel like going round in circles so carry on.

[ashley]

Thank you Ash...even though the LMW numbers look nice, they weren't really part of the equation were they?

Anyhow, don't really feel like going round in circles so carry on.

I thought it put things in the light we thought the fight was going to be at...then when it got moved Medleys ranking went down....looks fair to me :D

Why dont you let us know where you had him.....I promice no QLD roundabouts :lol:

[LeonMcS]

Seeing as hes a light middleweight who fights at light middleweight after he'd moved up from welterweight, I didn't have him rated at middleweight.

[ashley]

Seeing as hes a light middleweight who fights at light middleweight after he'd moved up from welterweight, I didn't have him rated at middleweight.


Oh...it was a trick question :lol:

I was saying what his rate would be if he fought and continued at MW

[Francis75]

At the time of the choc fight

# 1 LM in AUST

# 7 MW in AUST

# 25 LMW...World

# 50 MW....World

Thanks for clearing up the FACT that Medley was a shit opponent for Mundine to be fighting. Medley is NOT a good fighter on the world scene, infact he is quite shit. The 3 times he has fought world level opponents he has been thoroughly embarrassed hasn't he.
If fans like yourself and Mr Balmain believe an opponent like a Rob Medley is a good opponent for Mundine then i certainly won't read too much into Balmains assertion that Anthony mentioned that they have a very good fighter lined up next.:hi:

[Kegsy]

Thanks for clearing up the FACT that Medley was a shit opponent for Mundine to be fighting. Medley is NOT a good fighter on the world scene, infact he is quite shit. The 3 times he has fought world level opponents he has been thoroughly embarrassed hasn't he.
If fans like yourself and Mr Balmain believe an opponent like a Rob Medley is a good opponent for Mundine then i certainly won't read too much into Balmains assertion that Anthony mentioned that they have a very good fighter lined up next.:hi:
Totally agree...

I wouldnt even have Medley inside the top 25 at Junior Middleweight.
Probably somewhere round 40-50.

[ashley]

Thanks for clearing up the FACT that Medley was a shit opponent for Mundine to be fighting. Medley is NOT a good fighter on the world scene, infact he is quite shit. The 3 times he has fought world level opponents he has been thoroughly embarrassed hasn't he.
If fans like yourself and Mr Balmain believe an opponent like a Rob Medley is a good opponent for Mundine then i certainly won't read too much into Balmains assertion that Anthony mentioned that they have a very good fighter lined up next.:hi:

I said Medley was a good fight at 154....not 160 :tong

And I said Medley has talent...but I donrt think he is VERY talented.....Balmain said the fighter thay are looking at is a VERY talented fighter.....read what I posted again :D

[ashley]

Totally agree...

I wouldnt even have Medley inside the top 25 at Junior Middleweight.
Probably somewhere round 40-50.

Hey Kegsy just out of interest...where did you rate the fighter that choc was unofficially scheduled to fight last week ?

[Francis75]

Totally agree...

I wouldnt even have Medley inside the top 25 at Junior Middleweight.
Probably somewhere round 40-50.

He was a another joke opponent for Anthony to be fighting and all of Mundine's fans damn well know it to. Mundine fighting a top 25/30 junior middleweight at middleweight :patsch. FFS what is Medley's best win :roll: That's right he doesn't have ANY at all that would be considered remotely credible.

[Francis75]

I said Medley was a good fight at 154....not 160 :tong

And I said Medley has talent...but I donrt think he is VERY talented.....Balmain said the fighter thay are looking at is a VERY talented fighter.....read what I posted again :D

Sorry Ash but imo Mundine fighting someone like Medley even at 154 is a complete joke. Did anyone dare predict that Medley would win more than 2 or 3 rds ? Who is this opponent that Mundine was mentioned as fighting last week ?

[ashley]

Sorry Ash but imo Mundine fighting someone like Medley even at 154 is a complete joke. Did anyone dare predict that Medley would win more than 2 or 3 rds ? Who is this opponent that Mundine was mentioned as fighting last week ?

'scoop kegsy' can tell you :lol:

[Kegsy]

Hey Kegsy just out of interest...where did you rate the fighter that choc was unofficially scheduled to fight last week ?
The fighter Choc was scheduled to face i would have had around the 20 mark at Middleweight, tho Middle is a somewat weak division without much depth.:yep

[Kegsy]

Sorry Ash but imo Mundine fighting someone like Medley even at 154 is a complete joke. Did anyone dare predict that Medley would win more than 2 or 3 rds ? Who is this opponent that Mundine was mentioned as fighting last week ?
The fight seems less & less likely to happen anyways Francis meh nothing out of the norm for Mundine.

[IrnBruMan]

The fighter Choc was scheduled to face i would have had around the 20 mark at Middleweight, tho Middle is a somewat weak division without much depth.:yep


SO IT WASN'T PAVLIK!!!! :lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl

[Kegsy]

The fighter Choc was scheduled to face i would have had around the 20 mark at Middleweight, tho Middle is a somewat weak division without much depth.:yep
Put it this way definitely not top 10 material unless your Ash:yep

[Kegsy]

'scoop kegsy' can tell you :lol:
Check it in Fist Magazine:yep

[boxoncottonon]

As good enough to fight for the WBA international belt.

I think it's weird how in the various aussie forum "bitchfests" going on in the seemingly small boxing community that the people claiming to be doing the most good for the sport in terms of distribution paid or not are so very quick to discredit any aussie fighter that mundine happens to paste inside the ring. There are various domestic fighters I have a disdain for e.g. froch but I still give him some credit, but the mundine witch hunt conducted by the guys so seemingly active in the australian boxing world is a massive contradiction and gets more laughable with each stupid post. No one gives boxing more exposure in your country than "the man", time to start supporting him :bbb


It's your sustained support and fanfare for The Pioneers over whelming success as a mediocre international level boxer which always garners the most laughter on here...

Called blind stupid faith....

I can't recalll anyone on here discrediting Medley, in fact my posts regarding this fight, it's circumstances it was finally fought under and the result held Medley in high regard.....as opposed to how I rated The Pioneer for creating a moot point from what was originally intended to be Medley's opportunity...I guess The Pioneers selfishness and disrespect for Medley counts for nought in the eyes of a part time fight fan.

[IrnBruMan]

I'm simply flabbergasted his next opponent wasn't Pavlik :lol::lol::lol:

[stiflers mum]

I'm simply flabbergasted his next opponent wasn't Pavlik :lol::lol::lol:
Pavlik is ducking him.hes too busy fighting bums and the bottle and finding excuses to pull out of fights.:D

[balmain]

Rob Medley was bad you say and was outclassed by Anthony but lets not forget Gary Dean had only 2 points in it. There are so many people bagging Anthony they let both the judges terrible scorecard and the referees blindness of a knock down go without mention. Also how proud are all you Mundine baggers of Danny Green defending his cruiser title against middleweight Manny Siaca. Manny probably needs the money he hasnt fought for 12 months. Hes also been reported to be punching to hard for Peter Kariuki. A super Middle. Now thats frightening.

[IrnBruMan]

Rob Medley was bad you say and was outclassed by Anthony but lets not forget Gary Dean had only 2 points in it. There are so many people bagging Anthony they let both the judges terrible scorecard and the referees blindness of a knock down go without mention. Also how proud are all you Mundine baggers of Danny Green defending his cruiser title against middleweight Manny Siaca. Manny probably needs the money he hasnt fought for 12 months. Hes also been reported to be punching to hard for Peter Kariuki. A super Middle. Now thats frightening.

Now now balmain, don't deflect, you can't sit there and act astonished at people expecting more of Anthony "I Can't Believe It's Not Pavlik" Mundine, given the rubbish he continually comes out with about being the best etc. Yes I know, it's to hype his fights, but has he ever heard the story about the Boy Who Cried Wolf?

At least Green doesn't go around claiming to be the best etc.

[boxoncottonon]

Rob Medley was bad you say and was outclassed by Anthony but lets not forget Gary Dean had only 2 points in it. There are so many people bagging Anthony they let both the judges terrible scorecard and the referees blindness of a knock down go without mention. Also how proud are all you Mundine baggers of Danny Green defending his cruiser title against middleweight Manny Siaca. Manny probably needs the money he hasnt fought for 12 months. Hes also been reported to be punching to hard for Peter Kariuki. A super Middle. Now thats frightening.

Look over there........:patsch

[Kegsy]

Rob Medley was bad you say and was outclassed by Anthony but lets not forget Gary Dean had only 2 points in it. There are so many people bagging Anthony they let both the judges terrible scorecard and the referees blindness of a knock down go without mention. Also how proud are all you Mundine baggers of Danny Green defending his cruiser title against middleweight Manny Siaca. Manny probably needs the money he hasnt fought for 12 months. Hes also been reported to be punching to hard for Peter Kariuki. A super Middle. Now thats frightening.
Im no Green fan either Balmain with his paper belt & poor defences against the likes of Siaca...even the blind man knows that.

Mundine's choice of opposition has been appalling...fighting only South American cabbies chucked in with some very fringe Aussie contenders that only score wins mainly against guys with sub .500 records.
Look at Rob Medley for example....Medley's best wins are Kaizer Mabuza(natural Junior Welter) & Tui Leveni (natural welterweight).:lol:
Mundine should have only even considered Medley as a supporting act on his undercard.:yep

[IrnBruMan]

Mundine seems to be in the business of excuses, not boxing.

Ottke loss - had the flu, no sparring partners.

Echols win - carried a broken rib into the fight.

Siaca loss - carried badly sprained ankle into fight.

Kessler rematch - decided he was better suited to fight at MW.

Geale rematch - decided he was better suited to fight at LMW.

Medley fight at LMW - demanded own judges and ref for fight, didn't get his way, decided fight would be at MW instead.

Not getting Pavlik/Sturm etc for next fight - recovering from hip operation.

:lol:

I can't believe there are still people who believe this guy, he's been conning you all since he lost to Kessler :nut

[balmain]

Kegsy I agree with what you are saying. Yes in the past he has fought some well below standard guys. I understand Khoders reasoning of staying active while waiting for something big to happen. It has been well overdue so I for one are happy on what has been mapped out for his immediate future. And IBM we all know why your boy Danny doesnt go round claiming hes the best dont we.

[IrnBruMan]

balmain, if one of you pro-Mundine posters would at least admit that he's been cruising on easybeats because his eyesight isn't 100% since his eye infection and/or that his mobility hasn't been great of late due to his hip injury, I would have some respect. But to continually believe, or claim you believe, his continual line of BS that he's taking stay busy fights 'while waiting for something big to happen' indicates to me that you guys are all taken hook, line and sinker by said BS.

'Something big' was when he was Kessler's mandatory but he ran down to MW to avoid that. Then he ran down to LMW to avoid a rematch with Geale.

Can you explain why he avoided a rematch with Kessler by vacating his title and moving down to MW, given he was calling him out for 2 years and it was in defence of his WBA SMW title?

Can you explain why he chose to move down to LMW to fight Medley rather than rematch Geale? Surely a rematch would take him one close closer to a fight with one of the world MW champs?

Exactly what 'big things' did those 2 actions bring closer?

Also, why doesn't Green go around saying he's the best, balmain?

[daz52]

Kegsy I agree with what you are saying. Yes in the past he has fought some well below standard guys. I understand Khoders reasoning of staying active while waiting for something big to happen. It has been well overdue so I for one are happy on what has been mapped out for his immediate future. And IBM we all know why your boy Danny doesnt go round claiming hes the best dont we.


Mate you say Khoder wants him to stay active but at the end of the day there are two things wrong with that.

1. Fine he can stay active but hes been doing it against absolute shit opposition. Theres no reason why Anthony cant fight decent fighters every time out. People give the old excuse of : you cant fight a Pavlik or Kessler every time but that's not the point. Just because you cant fight bigger names fighters it doesnt mean you cant fight good fighters. Just becuase you cant get Pavlik it doesnt mean you fight Jose Alberto Clavero or Allejandro Gustovo Falliga! Why cant Anthony fights guys that while they arent huge names they are still good fighters ranked legitimately in the Top 10 - 15?

2. Look at all of Anthonys injuries. Eye injuy, bicep tear, groin problem, hip problem. Maybe if Anthony would just take 5 or 6 months off from fighting he wouldnt have to be constantly in training and then his body could have a chance to heal. Becuase Khoder is so desperate for Anthony to be active he has to train through injury and they never get better, only gradually worst. As a result his body and his performances gradually decline and suffer.

Point is Anthony isnt getting any younger now is he. And he sure as hell isnt getting better fight by fight any more either. He should first give his body PROPER chance to FULLY heal from all injuries. Then step it up right away and beginning fighting Sturms and Pavliks. Time is running out or according to some has already ran out. He has pretty much had 3 years of meaningless fights no wonder no one is interested anymore.

["DJ"]

The fighter Choc was scheduled to face i would have had around the 20 mark at Middleweight, tho Middle is a somewat weak division without much depth.:yep

20th in the world, 20th in australia or 20th in South America? :huh

[Kegsy]

20th in the world, 20th in australia or 20th in South America? :huh
Probably around 20th in the world....thats a huge step up from fighting 50th or 75th in the world

[Francis75]

Rob Medley was bad you say and was outclassed by Anthony but lets not forget Gary Dean had only 2 points in it. There are so many people bagging Anthony they let both the judges terrible scorecard and the referees blindness of a knock down go without mention. Also how proud are all you Mundine baggers of Danny Green defending his cruiser title against middleweight Manny Siaca. Manny probably needs the money he hasnt fought for 12 months. Hes also been reported to be punching to hard for Peter Kariuki. A super Middle. Now thats frightening.

FFS he was a laughable opponent and you damn well know it but you will sugar coat it because you are on Anthony's payroll. You are a yes man. Green is just as bad by the way with his BS cruiser title.
How can you possibly in any way whatsoever regard Rob Medley as a decent opponent for Anthony Mundine ? :roll:

[balmain]

If you know anything about boxing it was a perfect fight. Rob Medley was always going to be a tough credible opponent who could sell. I am on Chocs payroll because after over 30 years as a professional boxer I have something to offer as a trainer. I did not choose his last fight but agreed with Khoders decision. As far as being a yes man I have never always agreed with Khoder. In fact far from it. Otherwise I would have been on Chocs payroll earlier. Please ask around boxing circles if I am a yes man. Im curious.

[TheDuke]

As an insider in Mundine's camp are you able to tell us how Mundine thinks he is perceived?

Outside of the general public's disdain, true boxing fans are just frustrated by the way he has thrown away a career for reasons that are hard to fathom. The reality is that he has no legacy to leave as a boxer and now it seems unlikely he will create one.

[pecks]

As an insider in Mundine's camp are you able to tell us how Mundine thinks he is perceived?

Outside of the general public's disdain, true boxing fans are just frustrated by the way he has thrown away a career for reasons that are hard to fathom. The reality is that he has no legacy to leave as a boxer and now it seems unlikely he will create one.Whats he supposed to do when all the big names keep on ducking him?!

[goodnight]

Rob Medley was bad you say and was outclassed by Anthony but lets not forget Gary Dean had only 2 points in it. There are so many people bagging Anthony they let both the judges terrible scorecard and the referees blindness of a knock down go without mention. Also how proud are all you Mundine baggers of Danny Green defending his cruiser title against middleweight Manny Siaca. Manny probably needs the money he hasnt fought for 12 months. Hes also been reported to be punching to hard for Peter Kariuki. A super Middle. Now thats frightening.


Difference is Siaca has fought for world titles at light heavy.

In fact, at middleweight he'd probably still scare mundine out of fighting.

[ashley]

The fighter Choc was scheduled to face i would have had around the 20 mark at Middleweight, tho Middle is a somewat weak division without much depth.:yep


:nono.....now now Kegsy.....I'm sorry I blew your scoop....I had no idea you were holding onto that gem :yep

But saying choc's unofficial scheduled fight was ranked around the 20 mark is just plain BS :lol:

Both you and I know he's rated with 2 of the big 4 belts inside the top 5 at MW :deal .....I think the RING has him in the top 10 :tong

[pecks]

:nono.....now now Kegsy.....I'm sorry I blew your scoop....I had no idea you were holding onto that gem :yep

But saying choc's unofficial scheduled fight was ranked around the 20 mark is just plain BS :lol:

Both you and I know he's rated with 2 of the big 4 belts inside the top 5 at MW :deal .....I think the RING has him in the top 10 :tong[Only registered and activated users can see links]

:deal

[Francis75]

If you know anything about boxing it was a perfect fight. Rob Medley was always going to be a tough credible opponent who could sell. I am on Chocs payroll because after over 30 years as a professional boxer I have something to offer as a trainer. I did not choose his last fight but agreed with Khoders decision. As far as being a yes man I have never always agreed with Khoder. In fact far from it. Otherwise I would have been on Chocs payroll earlier. Please ask around boxing circles if I am a yes man. Im curious.

I'm speechless. :shock:

[Sox]

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

:deal
You can thank me for that. :yep

[shanemfr]

If you know anything about boxing it was a perfect fight. Rob Medley
It was a perfect fight for Mundine, seeing how Medley had his arse handed to hime twice by a blown up light weight, so Mundine thought as per usual...perfect here's another easy no risk pay day.

[Sydney Smutt]

yep and Manny is a blown up flyweight ya fucking spanner

[IrnBruMan]

hadaway an shite ye fackin bampot

[Sydney Smutt]

divvent be givven me shite, man....

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

If you know anything about boxing it was a perfect fight. Rob Medley was always going to be a tough credible opponent who could sell. I am on Chocs payroll because after over 30 years as a professional boxer I have something to offer as a trainer. I did not choose his last fight but agreed with Khoders decision. As far as being a yes man I have never always agreed with Khoder. In fact far from it. Otherwise I would have been on Chocs payroll earlier. Please ask around boxing circles if I am a yes man. Im curious.

I wouldn't question your credentials or your credibility Flash - your record speaks for itself. But I would question your opinion regarding Medley and him being a perfect fight for Mundine.

What did Mundine get from that bout other than a payday and another day at the office?

Granted a fairly meaningful fight was in the making before his recovery from surgery curtailed it, but Mundine will be 35 very shortly and still appears to be treading the easy path that leads nowhere.

I share The Duke's view reagrding any legacy Mundine may or may not leave.

[20a87]

It's your sustained support and fanfare for The Pioneers over whelming success as a mediocre international level boxer which always garners the most laughter on here...

Called blind stupid faith....

I can't recalll anyone on here discrediting Medley, in fact my posts regarding this fight, it's circumstances it was finally fought under and the result held Medley in high regard.....as opposed to how I rated The Pioneer for creating a moot point from what was originally intended to be Medley's opportunity...I guess The Pioneers selfishness and disrespect for Medley counts for nought in the eyes of a part time fight fan.

The WBA super middleweight title reigns and his stint as ibo middleweight champion contrast with the supposed mediocrity you cast over "the man".

I don't have blind faith, I just rate his opponents higher than you and I enjoy watching mundine fight whoever, the only recent fight I disliked was the falliga one. Pretty much everyone discredited medley as an opponent for choc and continue to do so this thread is full of shit about him. It was never Medley's opportunity, mundine was clearly the draw and intended to become a pioneer of the sport by becoming a champ at 154. Unfortunately it didn't happen and the WBA stepped in with a middleweight belt. Then mundine went out and beat the shit out of medley in an entertaining fashion - job done. Don't get prissy about apparent lack of respect, he's a ticket seller in the same vein as floyd.

Rob Medley was bad you say and was outclassed by Anthony but lets not forget Gary Dean had only 2 points in it. There are so many people bagging Anthony they let both the judges terrible scorecard and the referees blindness of a knock down go without mention. Also how proud are all you Mundine baggers of Danny Green defending his cruiser title against middleweight Manny Siaca. Manny probably needs the money he hasnt fought for 12 months. Hes also been reported to be punching to hard for Peter Kariuki. A super Middle. Now thats frightening.

The scorecards were not too hot that night. Danny Green has built his name from hounding "the man", siaca is the latest tactic to get a shot at mundine. A lot of attention and plans being made around an "insignificant piss ant". I guess green must be a mundine fan or something :lol:

Now now balmain, don't deflect, you can't sit there and act astonished at people expecting more of Anthony "I Can't Believe It's Not Pavlik" Mundine, given the rubbish he continually comes out with about being the best etc. Yes I know, it's to hype his fights, but has he ever heard the story about the Boy Who Cried Wolf?

At least Green doesn't go around claiming to be the best etc.

Creepy Puppet :hi:, can't wait for your equally dumb partner in crime rocks up to further take your credibility away. It's proven he's on the hunt for kelly. Green can't go around claiming he's the best and we all know why! (hint 2006)

balmain, if one of you pro-Mundine posters would at least admit that he's been cruising on easybeats because his eyesight isn't 100% since his eye infection and/or that his mobility hasn't been great of late due to his hip injury, I would have some respect. But to continually believe, or claim you believe, his continual line of BS that he's taking stay busy fights 'while waiting for something big to happen' indicates to me that you guys are all taken hook, line and sinker by said BS.

'Something big' was when he was Kessler's mandatory but he ran down to MW to avoid that. Then he ran down to LMW to avoid a rematch with Geale.

Can you explain why he avoided a rematch with Kessler by vacating his title and moving down to MW, given he was calling him out for 2 years and it was in defence of his WBA SMW title?

Can you explain why he chose to move down to LMW to fight Medley rather than rematch Geale? Surely a rematch would take him one close closer to a fight with one of the world MW champs?

Exactly what 'big things' did those 2 actions bring closer?

Also, why doesn't Green go around saying he's the best, balmain?

CP :hi:

Geale was stay busy? Medley? - If anyone else had fought these guys it would be credible and much lauded. You really know zero. Kessler was coming off a loss, choc moved down beat geale - no need for a worthless rematch, geale should join the queue. Was meant to move down beat medley anyway etc etc

Green can't say he's the best whilst "the man" is still the sheriff in town.
Please stop writing your nonsense. :hi:

I wouldn't question your credentials or your credibility Flash - your record speaks for itself. But I would question your opinion regarding Medley and him being a perfect fight for Mundine.

What did Mundine get from that bout other than a payday and another day at the office?

Granted a fairly meaningful fight was in the making before his recovery from surgery curtailed it, but Mundine will be 35 very shortly and still appears to be treading the easy path that leads nowhere.

I share The Duke's view reagrding any legacy Mundine may or may not leave.

He was going down to 154 when the fight was made, nice money, pioneer status, got to go rounds against a live opponent, wba int. belt etc

[Kegsy]

:nono.....now now Kegsy.....I'm sorry I blew your scoop....I had no idea you were holding onto that gem :yep

But saying choc's unofficial scheduled fight was ranked around the 20 mark is just plain BS :lol:

Both you and I know he's rated with 2 of the big 4 belts inside the top 5 at MW :deal .....I think the RING has him in the top 10 :tong
Last time i checked he was not in the Ring's top 10 or the espn.com top 10 at middleweight.

Having a big powerful promoter getting u a high rating in a couple orgs does not get u into the overall top 10.:deal

[ashley]

Last time i checked he was not in the Ring's top 10 or the espn.com top 10 at middleweight.

Having a big powerful promoter getting u a high rating in a couple orgs does not get u into the overall top 10.:deal

He's not promoted by universum anymore...and would you settle for ESB top 10 :hey

[Kegsy]

He's not promoted by universum anymore...and would you settle for ESB top 10 :hey
Well he was & they assisted greatly in his high ranking.:yep

Mehh he shouldnt be in the top 15 yet....top 20 i guess so

[balmain]

When the Medley fight was made it was at middleweight. Then both camps both agreed to fight at 154lb. Choc was confident of making the weight and 2 weeks out was doing it very easy. Then the fight was changed back to middleweight because of a problem Khoder had with the IBO. I thought as Choc was going to move to the 154lb class Rob Medley was a good test. Moving to jnr middle I think is the weight he should of fought at a long time ago. And thats coming from a trainer not a yes man on his payroll.

[patrick]

So Khoda had a problem with the IBO eh?

Fancy that. Khoda having a problem with someone.

Go figure! :lol:

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

When the Medley fight was made it was at middleweight. Then both camps both agreed to fight at 154lb...

We were led to believe at the time Mundine chose to fight Medley, in preference to defending his middleweight title against Geale, that it was so he could 'pioneer' the lower weight division (for the light middle title)!

If the Medley fight was originally to be at middle, why didn't Mundine instead hang on to his middleweight title and fight Geale?

This makes about as much sense as some of Mundine's other career directions!

[20a87]

When the Medley fight was made it was at middleweight. Then both camps both agreed to fight at 154lb. Choc was confident of making the weight and 2 weeks out was doing it very easy. Then the fight was changed back to middleweight because of a problem Khoder had with the IBO. I thought as Choc was going to move to the 154lb class Rob Medley was a good test. Moving to jnr middle I think is the weight he should of fought at a long time ago. And thats coming from a trainer not a yes man on his payroll.

Didn't know that mate, was that just to appease the grange?

Apparently that was the first time choc had been on a strict diet in the lead up to a fight, is that true?

You don't have to justify your position, i'm sure even the most of ardent of mundine haters appreciate industry pro's posting. :thumbsup

We were led to believe at the time Mundine chose to fight Medley, in preference to defending his middleweight title against Geale, that it was so he could 'pioneer' the lower weight division (for the light middle title)!

If the Medley fight was originally to be at middle, why didn't Mundine instead hang on to his middleweight title and fight Geale?

This makes about as much sense as some of Mundine's other career directions!

It doesn't matter really, the opportunity came for an ibo light middleweight belt and he decided to drop down to become a pioneer of the sport, that fell through so it was back to plan A. If anything it just shows medley wasn't as blindsided by the fight being at 160 as people like to make out on here.

A geale rematch wouldn't be a bad fight but he needs to earn his shot again. And if you are being honest you couldn't hand on heart say mundine has had a poor career if he retired today, in terms of boxing he has had a good career thus far.

[maco_187]

fuck the word pioneer and mundine in the same sentence shits me

[ashley]

fuck the word pioneer and mundine in the same sentence shits me

Yeah well on the DSS show Monday night Tony Mundine said Choc is looking at both LMW and MW fights.

I for one want him to fight Golovkin at MW for the WBA regular title # 1 v # 2

However it looks like according to Tony Mundine choc could be going down to LMW....therefore becoming the pioneer :lol:...sorry mate...I cant help myself :D

[maco_187]

Yeah well on the DSS show Monday night Tony Mundine said Choc is looking at both LMW and MW fights.

I for one want him to fight Golovkin at MW for the WBA regular title # 1 v # 2

However it looks like according to Tony Mundine choc could be going down to LMW....therefore becoming the pioneer :lol:...sorry mate...I cant help myself :D


mate what anyone wants mundine to do and what he actually does is 2 completely different thing... look at his last 10 fights two fighters world class and the rest nothing if thats not disappointing for you nut huggers thats problems...

[ashley]

mate what anyone wants mundine to do and what he actually does is 2 completely different thing... look at his last 10 fights two fighters world class and the rest nothing if thats not disappointing for you nut huggers thats problems...

Flangia was the only fight I had a problem with....the rest were fine....not saying they are great fighters or even good fights but when choc had the title I was a happy man :D

[Sox]

Flangia was the only fight I had a problem with....the rest were fine....not saying they are great fighters or even good fights but when choc had the title I was a happy man :D
So you're saying you had no problem with these guys fighting your boy?

Alejandro Gustavo Falliga, Rafael Sosa Pintos, Crazy Kim, Jose Alberto Clavero, Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas, Ruben Eduardo Acosta, Rico Chong Nee, and Rashid Matumla?

You're easy to please. :-(
If my favourite boxer was fighting this calibre of fighter at this point of his career, he wouldn't be my favourite for long. :bart

[ashley]

So you're saying you had no problem with these guys fighting your boy?

Alejandro Gustavo Falliga, Rafael Sosa Pintos, Crazy Kim, Jose Alberto Clavero, Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas, Ruben Eduardo Acosta, Rico Chong Nee, and Rashid Matumla?

You're easy to please. :-(
If my favourite boxer was fighting this calibre of fighter at this point of his career, he wouldn't be my favourite for long. :bart

For a start I said the Falinga fight was bad...the question was chocs last 10 fights.....

You left out Geale, Medley, Soliman, Taylor, Hamden....and Pintos was 31 - 2 and the national argi champ...and I was still on a high from the Green win 12 months before that :lol:

[Sox]

For a start I said the Falinga fight was bad...the question was chocs last 10 fights.....
I know that, but these are all the major mismatches since Kessler.

You left out Geale, Medley, Soliman, Taylor, Hamden....and Pintos was 31 - 2 and the national argi champ...and I was still on a high from the Green win 12 months before that :lol:I left those guys out of it because they were at least semi credible opponents, with a couple being very good, and 1 line ball with him.

I'm asking you bout the ones I mentioned though.
Are you happy your boy fights this class of fighter?

And don't give any shit about tune ups, keep busy etc, just answer the question as anti hugging as possible.

[20a87]

Yeah well on the DSS show Monday night Tony Mundine said Choc is looking at both LMW and MW fights.

I for one want him to fight Golovkin at MW for the WBA regular title # 1 v # 2

However it looks like according to Tony Mundine choc could be going down to LMW....therefore becoming the pioneer :lol:...sorry mate...I cant help myself :D

I sincerely hope he embraces the pioneer moniker should he fight at 154, it irks people no end and when he wins a title there like it or not Anthony will go in the history books and the sad sack bert sugars of the future will have to eat it. :happy
So you're saying you had no problem with these guys fighting your boy?

Alejandro Gustavo Falliga, Rafael Sosa Pintos, Crazy Kim, Jose Alberto Clavero, Pablo Daniel Zamora Nievas, Ruben Eduardo Acosta, Rico Chong Nee, and Rashid Matumla?

You're easy to please. :-(
If my favourite boxer was fighting this calibre of fighter at this point of his career, he wouldn't be my favourite for long. :bart

acosta was a good fight, chong nee had a great atmosphere, crazy kim was entertaining etc etc etc

geale vs barbosa?

[ashley]

I know that, but these are all the major mismatches since Kessler.
I left those guys out of it because they were at least semi credible opponents, with a couple being very good, and 1 line ball with him.

I'm asking you bout the ones I mentioned though.
Are you happy your boy fights this class of fighter?

And don't give any shit about tune ups, keep busy etc, just answer the question as anti hugging as possible.

While choc had the WBA title I could not care who he fought :deal

Oh you said anti hugging......see above :hey

[Sox]

acosta was a good fight, chong nee had a great atmosphere, crazy kim was entertaining etc etc etc

So you don't think they were mismatches, and you're perfectly happy for him to fight at this level?

geale vs barbosa?
Not really comparable as Geales at a much earlier stage of his career, but you know that anyway.

Even so, if he continues to fight at that level for too long, my support for him will dwindle.

[20a87]

So you don't think they were mismatches, and you're perfectly happy for him to fight at this level?

Not really comparable as Geales at a much earlier stage of his career, but you know that anyway.

Even so, if he continues to fight at that level for too long, my support for him will dwindle.

I want choc to go to america and get the big fights more than anything else in boxing, but even when he fights cans so long as he entertains me I'm happy. Falliga was a shit fight and was trying to be the same as the chong nee card when geale's entrance music kicked in after mundine and falliga had come out a la danny green. But as for some of the other fights you mention you can't say they were not entertaining.

[Sox]

I want choc to go to america and get the big fights more than anything else in boxing, but even when he fights cans so long as he entertains me I'm happy. Falliga was a shit fight and was trying to be the same as the chong nee card when geale's entrance music kicked in after mundine and falliga had come out a la danny green. But as for some of the other fights you mention you can't say they were not entertaining.
I'll take your word for it as I haven't seen all of them.
Regardless of whether it's entertaining though, I still couldn't support someone who wasn't actually taking themselves to the next level, particularly if they claimed they were going to on a weekly basis.

I guess that's also where someone like Geale differs, in that they don't make claims they rarely keep.

Maybe I'm just harder to entertain, or you and Ash are easy to entertain....

[Francis75]

When the Medley fight was made it was at middleweight. Then both camps both agreed to fight at 154lb. Choc was confident of making the weight and 2 weeks out was doing it very easy. Then the fight was changed back to middleweight because of a problem Khoder had with the IBO. I thought as Choc was going to move to the 154lb class Rob Medley was a good test. Moving to jnr middle I think is the weight he should of fought at a long time ago. And thats coming from a trainer not a yes man on his payroll.

Which ever way you try to explain it Rob Medley was yet another in the continuing list of joke opponents Anthony has fought over the last 3 yrs or so.

[Francis75]

For a start I said the Falinga fight was bad...the question was chocs last 10 fights.....

You left out Geale, Medley, Soliman, Taylor, Hamden....and Pintos was 31 - 2 and the national argi champ...and I was still on a high from the Green win 12 months before that :lol:

Farkin hell Ash. Apart from Geale the rest are joke opponents for Anthony to have been fighting and you know it. Hamden, Taylor, Soliman totally washed up at the time of Mundine fighting them and Medley/Pintos :patsch.

Funny thing is how many of these guys did Anthony stop ? :lol::lol::lol:

[ashley]

Farkin hell Ash. Apart from Geale the rest are joke opponents for Anthony to have been fighting and you know it. Hamden, Taylor, Soliman totally washed up at the time of Mundine fighting them and Medley/Pintos :patsch.

Funny thing is how many of these guys did Anthony stop ? :lol::lol::lol:

I had no idea you rated choc so high mate....the fighters above are solid aussie top 1 to 5 when choc fought then but you make it sound as if they were joe average :D

[20a87]

I'll take your word for it as I haven't seen all of them.
Regardless of whether it's entertaining though, I still couldn't support someone who wasn't actually taking themselves to the next level, particularly if they claimed they were going to on a weekly basis.

I guess that's also where someone like Geale differs, in that they don't make claims they rarely keep.

Maybe I'm just harder to entertain, or you and Ash are easy to entertain....

No offence but I can't be arsed to do a geale vs mundine "debate" again today, I might bite later.

Maybe myself and ashley appreciate naturally talented and slick fighters like mundine, mayweather, naz, calzaghe etc whereas you prefer the technical skills associated with the more traditional stance.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Didn't know that mate, was that just to appease the grange?

Apparently that was the first time choc had been on a strict diet in the lead up to a fight, is that true?

You don't have to justify your position, i'm sure even the most of ardent of mundine haters appreciate industry pro's posting. :thumbsup



It doesn't matter really, the opportunity came for an ibo light middleweight belt and he decided to drop down to become a pioneer of the sport, that fell through so it was back to plan A. If anything it just shows medley wasn't as blindsided by the fight being at 160 as people like to make out on here.

A geale rematch wouldn't be a bad fight but he needs to earn his shot again. And if you are being honest you couldn't hand on heart say mundine has had a poor career if he retired today, in terms of boxing he has had a good career thus far.

Mundine has without doubt had a 'good' career', but good careers are much easier to have than great ones.

Mundine has it in him, ability wise, to have at least a 'very good career', but only if chooses to.

Sadly, so far he has chosen not to. Classic case of a wasted talent to this point.

[20a87]

Mundine has without doubt had a 'good' career', but good careers are much easier to have than great ones.

Mundine has it in him, ability wise, to have at least a 'very good career', but only if chooses to.

Sadly, so far he has chosen not to. Classic case of a wasted talent to this point.

The nature of boxing fans makes putting someone's career in a box nigh on impossible, I could sit here and pull at threads on pacquiao's career or chad dawson's or rjj etc

Obviously good careers are easier than great careers to achieve. If you went back and watched choc's first couple of fights and then looked at what he has done in his 2nd professional sport to the present day you can't knock him really.

A naturally gifted boxer he should have more big fights but he would have nothing to be ashamed of if he left the sport today as a two weight 3 time world champ.

[ipswich express]

I think Anthony hasn't quite lived up to his potential as a boxer, and that's what I believe COULDHAVEBEEN is saying.

[20a87]

I think Anthony hasn't quite lived up to his potential as a boxer, and that's what I believe COULDHAVEBEEN is saying.

I know mate, I agree I wish he'd had more massive fights aswell and I hope he makes a good run at cleaning up the division before his legs go a la rjj. I'm just saying people love to downplay his career like any tosser with a pair of gloves could do the things he's done in the sport.

[ashley]

The good thing about choc's career is he only needs 1 defining win as he has 5 or 6 good wins/ titles already.

All choc needs is to win a full world title fight against the champ and hes there :good

It could be Sylvester.....it should have been Golovkin....how the hell Sturm kept his title is beyond me.

This 1 title fight can come in the next 2 years.....until then he will pick up another 1 or 2 regular belts.....rematch Geale and win....rematch Green and win...then call it a day :yep

[20a87]

The good thing about choc's career is he only needs 1 defining win as he has 5 or 6 good wins/ titles already.

All choc needs is to win a full world title fight against the champ and hes there :good

It could be Sylvester.....it should have been Golovkin....how the hell Sturm kept his title is beyond me.

This 1 title fight can come in the next 2 years.....until then he will pick up another 1 or 2 regular belts.....rematch Geale and win....rematch Green and win...then call it a day :yep

That didn't need to be said, it's obvious he wins those matches. :lol:

[JOSEY WALES]

[QUOTE=20a87;6400432]I want choc to go to america and get the big fights more than anything else in boxing, but even when he fights CANS so long as he entertains me I'm happy. Falliga was a shit fight and was trying to be the same as the chong nee card when geale's entrance music kicked in after mundine and falliga had come out a la danny green. But as for some of the other fights you mention you can't say they were not entertaining.[/QUOTE .....

Do you even read before you post your shit ? You call Pro boxers " CANS " Wtf ? Every fighter that laces them up PRO Or Am deserves more respect .

[Sox]

No offence but I can't be arsed to do a geale vs mundine "debate" again today, I might bite later.

Maybe myself and ashley appreciate naturally talented and slick fighters like mundine, mayweather, naz, calzaghe etc whereas you prefer the technical skills associated with the more traditional stance.
Not trying to debate Mandy and Geale, was just using Geale as an example.

I like Calzaghe & Mayweather, and most fighters really.
I even like Mandys technical ability, and I don't think I've ever denied that, it's him that I don't like.

I don't only like boxers because of their ability, I have to like the person too, and Mandys portrays himself to be an utter idiotic twat, a cheat and a fraud.
Whether he is really like that is anyones guess, the media are responsible for a lot of BS, though some of the things he's stooped to, even the media can't exaggerate it.

I like humble natured people, a bit of fun leading up to fights is ok, but the big mouths leave me cold. Particularly when it's rarely (never) backed up.

[ashley]

Not trying to debate Mandy and Geale, was just using Geale as an example.

I like Calzaghe & Mayweather, and most fighters really.
I even like Mandys technical ability, and I don't think I've ever denied that, it's him that I don't like.

I don't only like boxers because of their ability, I have to like the person too, and Mandys portrays himself to be an utter idiotic twat, a cheat and a fraud.
Whether he is really like that is anyones guess, the media are responsible for a lot of BS, though some of the things he's stooped to, even the media can't exaggerate it.

I like humble natured people, a bit of fun leading up to fights is ok, but the big mouths leave me cold. Particularly when it's rarely (never) backed up.

Money and Vic trashtalking dont bother you :D

[Sox]

Money and Vic trashtalking dont bother you :D
A little, but look who they're fighting by comparison to Mandy.
And Vics first language isn't even english, yet he can string sentences better than Mandy.
Someone like Mandy shouldn't be saying much at all in the public eye.

[20a87]

[quote=20a87;6400432]I want choc to go to america and get the big fights more than anything else in boxing, but even when he fights CANS so long as he entertains me I'm happy. Falliga was a shit fight and was trying to be the same as the chong nee card when geale's entrance music kicked in after mundine and falliga had come out a la danny green. But as for some of the other fights you mention you can't say they were not entertaining.[/QUOTE .....

Do you even read before you post your shit ? You call Pro boxers " CANS " Wtf ? Every fighter that laces them up PRO Or Am deserves more respect .

Pervy phony :-(

Couldn't resist another post in a mundine thread?

I guess a multi faceted rugby playing, amateur boxing superstar, trainer of calzaghe, adviser to ******, pillar of the community, 6ft tall guy that knows how to fight and is a creep to young lads had to have his little say in something he's not interested in (mundine) once again. Heaven forbid you would make a post about a boxer you were a fan of or even in the domestic and general forums - weirdo.

There is no way you are not a "can" in every aspect of your life so if anyone chose to believe your lies about boxing you would be proving yourself wrong as you are the epitome of "can".

:happy

[20a87]

Not trying to debate Mandy and Geale, was just using Geale as an example.

I like Calzaghe & Mayweather, and most fighters really.
I even like Mandys technical ability, and I don't think I've ever denied that, it's him that I don't like.

I don't only like boxers because of their ability, I have to like the person too, and Mandys portrays himself to be an utter idiotic twat, a cheat and a fraud.
Whether he is really like that is anyones guess, the media are responsible for a lot of BS, though some of the things he's stooped to, even the media can't exaggerate it.

I like humble natured people, a bit of fun leading up to fights is ok, but the big mouths leave me cold. Particularly when it's rarely (never) backed up.

Mundine's public persona is far less brash than money's and equally funny to listen to. Arrogant sports figures are by far and away better to follow as a fan :deal

[goodnight]

Money and Vic trashtalking dont bother you :D

they can and do back up their talk.

[ashley]

they can and do back up their talk.

So does choc....he gets in the ring....I remember in his first 8 fights everybody was saying they would smash him....funny...everybody is still saying that :lol:

[balmain]

I know what Choc says sometimes rubs people up the wrong way but anybody who knows him will tell you hes a great person. Watching him grow up hes never caused any trouble for anyone. The people he has helped is just unbelievable. I asked him to come to Nowra 2 weeks ago to help the promoter who was struggling. It wasnt a problem for him. Anybody who bags Choc does not know him. With Tony as your father what kid is giving cheek.

[Sox]

Mundine's public persona is far less brash than money's and equally funny to listen to. Arrogant sports figures are by far and away better to follow as a fan :deal
Not if they don't back up their claims.

[Sox]

So does choc....he gets in the ring....I remember in his first 8 fights everybody was saying they would smash him....funny...everybody is still saying that :lol:
He doesn't back up his talk Ash, and you know it.
Do we need to mention Pavlik again? Or stepping it up and going overseas..... it goes on and on, and you guys keep swallowing it.

[Sox]

I know what Choc says sometimes rubs people up the wrong way but anybody who knows him will tell you hes a great person. Watching him grow up hes never caused any trouble for anyone. The people he has helped is just unbelievable. I asked him to come to Nowra 2 weeks ago to help the promoter who was struggling. It wasnt a problem for him. Anybody who bags Choc does not know him. With Tony as your father what kid is giving cheek.
That may be so, but it's difficult to swallow when he continually portrays himself to be a dumb fraud to the media.
And he makes claims he hasn't backed up.

That's a problem.

[20a87]

Not if they don't back up their claims.

Yes he does, ask danny green.

He doesn't back up his talk Ash, and you know it.
Do we need to mention Pavlik again? Or stepping it up and going overseas..... it goes on and on, and you guys keep swallowing it.

Please don't attempt to play the pavlik card again, it got beaten last time you tried to.

That may be so, but it's difficult to swallow when he continually portrays himself to be a dumb fraud to the media.
And he makes claims he hasn't backed up.


That's a problem.

If you can't see his persona as being tongue in cheek when promoting a fight that's more a perception problem you have.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

I know what Choc says sometimes rubs people up the wrong way but anybody who knows him will tell you hes a great person. Watching him grow up hes never caused any trouble for anyone. The people he has helped is just unbelievable. I asked him to come to Nowra 2 weeks ago to help the promoter who was struggling. It wasnt a problem for him. Anybody who bags Choc does not know him. With Tony as your father what kid is giving cheek.

Reckon that's the thing Flash - his media persona is not that nice, generous person.

The people who critisize Mundine, myself included, don't know him, but dislike the at times obnoxious image he paints of himself.

[Sox]

Yes he does, ask danny green.
What about him? He's not the example I'm using.
I'm talking about all the guys he's supposedly called out and then ducked.
Who did he fight straight after Danny Green?

Please don't attempt to play the pavlik card again, it got beaten last time you tried to.

Truth hurts.

If you can't see his persona as being tongue in cheek when promoting a fight that's more a perception problem you have.
Well, you're the minority with regards to that, so maybe it's you who has the perception problem.

[JOSEY WALES]

[quote=JOSEY WALES;6402050]

Pervy phony :-(

Couldn't resist another post in a mundine thread?

I guess a multi faceted rugby playing, amateur boxing superstar, trainer of calzaghe, adviser to ******, pillar of the community, 6ft tall guy that knows how to fight and is a creep to young lads had to have his little say in something he's not interested in (mundine) once again. Heaven forbid you would make a post about a boxer you were a fan of or even in the domestic and general forums - weirdo.

There is no way you are not a "can" in every aspect of your life so if anyone chose to believe your lies about boxing you would be proving yourself wrong as you are the epitome of "can".

:happy
Like i said "you lack respect" , Wanker .

[20a87]

What about him? He's not the example I'm using.
I'm talking about all the guys he's supposedly called out and then ducked.
Who did he fight straight after Danny Green?

Truth hurts.

Well, you're the minority with regards to that, so maybe it's you who has the perception problem.

Acosta - I told you yesterday it's a good fight, seriously watch it you should enjoy it! even if you hate the guy.

Don't make me post all the pavlik articles.

He's just the australian pbf, don't dwell on everything he says, just enjoy the mundine show.

do we have to do this argument every week? I don't mind, it's an easy guaranteed win for mundine fans

[quote=20a87;6404792]
Like i said "you lack respect" , Wanker .

Pervy phony :hi:

Aretha Franklin wannabe today? You must love gaining nicknames, but it's nice to see you stick to your core sexual language :roll:

[Sox]

Acosta - I told you yesterday it's a good fight, seriously watch it you should enjoy it! even if you hate the guy.

I'll take your word for it.
You're missing my point though, I would prefer my favourite fighter to test himself almost all of the time, rather than the minority of the time.

For example, I was pissed at the efforts of Kessler straight after Calzaghe.
3 mismatched opponents. Mind you he got his ass wiped by Ward after that..... :patsch

Don't make me post all the pavlik articles.
Ok, I won't. I don't believe the media anyway.

He's just the australian pbf, don't dwell on everything he says, just enjoy the mundine show.
Ahuh... :-(

do we have to do this argument every week? I don't mind, it's an easy guaranteed win for mundine fansWhy not, I'm bored, no fights on tonight, I think. :huh

[pecks]

For example, I was pissed at the efforts of Kessler straight after Calzaghe.
3 mismatched opponents. Mind you he got his ass wiped by Ward after that..... :patsch
I thought his level of opposition was fairly decent actually.

His first fight after the loss was against an undefeated Satrison for the WBA belt, then he fought Hausler. Granted that the other guy was nothing to cvheer about but overall a solid return. A lot better than returning against the likes of Bradley Mayo, and Matumla, etc.

[Sox]

I thought his level of opposition was fairly decent actually.

His first fight after the loss was against an undefeated Satrison for the WBA belt, then he fought Hausler. Granted that the other guy was nothing to cvheer about but overall a solid return. A lot better than returning against the likes of Bradley Mayo, and Matumla, etc.
They weren't as bad as Mandys, but they weren't top 10 material either from memory.
I would just have expected more after the great fight with Calzaghe.
Maybe I'm just hard to please. :hey

[ashley]

They weren't as bad as Mandys, but they weren't top 10 material either from memory.
I would just have expected more after the great fight with Calzaghe.
Maybe I'm just hard to please. :hey

I think Sartison was top 3 or 4 WBA as was Hausler...both guys were about 23 - 1 coming into the fight....good fighters just got bashed by Kess...Just like Froch will get his ass handed to him soon :lol:

[Sox]

I think Sartison was top 3 or 4 WBA as was Hausler...both guys were about 23 - 1 coming into the fight....good fighters just got bashed by Kess...Just like Froch will get his ass handed to him soon :lol:
Mmm, thought only Sartisan was either close to top 10 or maybe even in it. :huh
Anyway, looking forward to seeing Froch get bashed too. :good

[ashley]

Mmm, thought only Sartisan was either close to top 10 or maybe even in it. :huh
Anyway, looking forward to seeing Froch get bashed too. :good

Cant remember...thought they were good fights when announced....I dont see how Kess can lose this fight against Froch...it will be a toe to toe war for 6 rounds before the stretcher comes in for Carl :lol:

[JOSEY WALES]

Cant remember...thought they were good fights when announced....I dont see how Kess can lose this fight against Froch...it will be a toe to toe war for 6 rounds before the stretcher comes in for Carl :lol:

Kessler won't stand toe to toe with Frochy Ash but he will out box him , Just .

[JOSEY WALES]

Pervy phony

Aretha Franklin wannabe today? You must love gaining nicknames, but it's nice to see you stick to your core sexual language

Like i said You lack respect , maybe when you grow up a bit you will learn this kid ... .....Wanker

[pecks]

Kessler won't stand toe to toe with Frochy Ash but he will out box him , Just .Just?! I think he'll comfortably beat him to be honest. Am thinking about splashing some large coin on him for the win, and maybe even throw a $50 or so on him to win via stoppage because it's paying $4.

I just dont think that Froch has the tools to beat him and his heart will only cause him punishment all night long.

[kel]

Just?! I think he'll comfortably beat him to be honest. Am thinking about splashing some large coin on him for the win, and maybe even throw a $50 or so on him to win via stoppage because it's paying $4.

I just dont think that Froch has the tools to beat him and his heart will only cause him punishment all night long.

Mate i agree, but for some reason i've got a 5% worry in the back of my head that Kessler has seen better days. That said, Froch is pretty average and how the fuck he got awarded that fight against Dirrell was a complete joke.

[pecks]

Mate i agree, but for some reason i've got a 5% worry in the back of my head that Kessler has seen better days. That said, Froch is pretty average and how the fuck he got awarded that fight against Dirrell was a complete joke.
True, there is a bit of doubt about whether or not Kessler is on his way out.

Still, Froch is far from a Ward in terms of what he has in his tool kit, and Kessler should be able to eat up Frochs style.

Is this fight gunna be on Aussie tv?

[goodnight]

I reckon froch will be in kesslers face and banging away on the inside after watching kess struggle last time out.

kess should have the experirnce and skills to make it a hard night for froch though.

[pecks]

I reckon froch will be in kesslers face and banging away on the inside after watching kess struggle last time out.

kess should have the experirnce and skills to make it a hard night for froch though.
Up until the Calzaghe fight, Kessler never fought on the inside and everyone just assumed he couldn't do it. He actually had a lot of success on the inside against Calzaghe, but Calzaghe just had his measure.

Will be interesting to see...

[stiflers mum]

I had no idea you rated choc so high mate....the fighters above are solid aussie top 1 to 5 when choc fought then but you make it sound as if they were joe average :D
i like you Ash but Taylor is garbage and has been for ages.

[JOSEY WALES]

Just?! I think he'll comfortably beat him to be honest. Am thinking about splashing some large coin on him for the win, and maybe even throw a $50 or so on him to win via stoppage because it's paying $4.

I just dont think that Froch has the tools to beat him and his heart will only cause him punishment all night long.

I see a lot of blokes on here bagging Froch and fair enough he is a dislikaeable enough bloke but don't let these personal feelings of distain cloud your judgement when it comes to predicting a winner , Froch will be going all out to end it early and he will be having a certain amount of succsess up until around stanza's 4-6 ,then kessler will prove his rehabilitation is complete and start to cruise , to a UD decision that is . Despite many people writing Kess off i still see him as the eventual winner of the SS .

[RAB2204]

Osaka Hochi ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) reports that former WBA Super Middleweight champ Anthony Mundine is being discussed as an opponent for current WBA Super Welterweight interim titleholder Nobuhiro Ishida.
Ishida won the trinket last August, defending it once in December. He and his team had hoped to get full champion Yuri Foreman in a unification bout, and rumors had circulated that the fight could be part of a super-event in China with multiple world titles bouts. That, of course, would never have happened, and Foreman is scheduled to meet with fellow Top Rank fighter Miguel Cotto on June 5.
They also add that undefeated American Austin "No Doubt" Trout, the #1 contender, has expressed interest in fighting Ishida....

Is this true?who is his next opponent????

[flamengo]

Just about bank on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grab an interim belt, claim World domination and run away from any genuine offer..

[ashley]

Osaka Hochi ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) reports that former WBA Super Middleweight champ Anthony Mundine is being discussed as an opponent for current WBA Super Welterweight interim titleholder Nobuhiro Ishida.
Ishida won the trinket last August, defending it once in December. He and his team had hoped to get full champion Yuri Foreman in a unification bout, and rumors had circulated that the fight could be part of a super-event in China with multiple world titles bouts. That, of course, would never have happened, and Foreman is scheduled to meet with fellow Top Rank fighter Miguel Cotto on June 5.
They also add that undefeated American Austin "No Doubt" Trout, the #1 contender, has expressed interest in fighting Ishida....

Is this true?who is his next opponent????

Choc is looking at both the 154 and 160 WBA Regular and interim titles....who knows yet :hey

[Sai]

Choc is looking at both the 154 and 160 WBA Regular and interim titles....who knows yet :hey

I'm looking at pictures of attractive ladies, and I'm not going to get them either.

[flamengo]

I'm looking at pictures of attractive ladies, and I'm not going to get them either.

Get an Interim lady..

Claim to root them, when you only said hello.....

[goodnight]

Get an Interim lady..

Claim to root them, when you only said hello.....


:lol::lol::lol:

[stiflers mum]

Get an Interim lady..

Claim to root them, when you only said hello.....
:lol::lol::lol:

[20a87]

Pervy phony

Aretha Franklin wannabe today? You must love gaining nicknames, but it's nice to see you stick to your core sexual language

Like i said You lack respect , maybe when you grow up a bit you will learn this kid ... .....Wanker

Pervy phony - again? :-(

I see a lot of blokes on here bagging Froch and fair enough he is a dislikaeable enough bloke but don't let these personal feelings of distain cloud your judgement when it comes to predicting a winner , Froch will be going all out to end it early and he will be having a certain amount of succsess up until around stanza's 4-6 ,then kessler will prove his rehabilitation is complete and start to cruise , to a UD decision that is . Despite many people writing Kess off i still see him as the eventual winner of the SS .

Did they run this by you?, obviously you have a large influence in all big fights and no doubt have the whole fight choreographed. Just say 'I think' instead. Dunce.

Osaka Hochi ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) reports that former WBA Super Middleweight champ Anthony Mundine is being discussed as an opponent for current WBA Super Welterweight interim titleholder Nobuhiro Ishida.
Ishida won the trinket last August, defending it once in December. He and his team had hoped to get full champion Yuri Foreman in a unification bout, and rumors had circulated that the fight could be part of a super-event in China with multiple world titles bouts. That, of course, would never have happened, and Foreman is scheduled to meet with fellow Top Rank fighter Miguel Cotto on June 5.
They also add that undefeated American Austin "No Doubt" Trout, the #1 contender, has expressed interest in fighting Ishida....

Is this true?who is his next opponent????

An eventual showdown against cotto would be nice to round off 2010....

[Sox]

Get an Interim lady..

Claim to root them, when you only said hello.....
Gold.. :rofl:rofl:rofl

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Get an Interim lady..

Claim to root them, when you only said hello.....

Just awarded you the 'World of Sport' take-home goody basket on the other thread too!

Your on fire!

[balmain]

If Choc fights and wins the now vacant middleweight title you will all say hes a fake as Sturm is the real champion. If he fights and wins the jnr middle interim title you all will say hes a fake as the cotto v Yuri Foreman winner is the real champion. So who cares who he fights. Hes getting bagged anyway. I think he should move up to cruiserweight and fight a middleweight. Nobody will bag that.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

If Choc fights and wins the now vacant middleweight title you will all say hes a fake as Sturm is the real champion. If he fights and wins the jnr middle interim title you all will say hes a fake as the cotto v Yuri Foreman winner is the real champion. So who cares who he fights. Hes getting bagged anyway. I think he should move up to cruiserweight and fight a middleweight. Nobody will bag that.

That's just equates to Mundine vs Green II, give or take a few pounds Flash.

[Kegsy]

If Choc fights and wins the now vacant middleweight title you will all say hes a fake as Sturm is the real champion. If he fights and wins the jnr middle interim title you all will say hes a fake as the cotto v Yuri Foreman winner is the real champion. So who cares who he fights. Hes getting bagged anyway. I think he should move up to cruiserweight and fight a middleweight. Nobody will bag that.
Why not fight a real champ then nuthugger???:hey

[balmain]

Sturm has a conflict with his promoters. Cotto is fighting champion Foreman as both guys are contracted to TOP RANK. What is your advice?

[goodnight]

If Choc fights and wins the now vacant middleweight title you will all say hes a fake as Sturm is the real champion. If he fights and wins the jnr middle interim title you all will say hes a fake as the cotto v Yuri Foreman winner is the real champion. So who cares who he fights. Hes getting bagged anyway. I think he should move up to cruiserweight and fight a middleweight. Nobody will bag that.

so target sturm yuri or cotto then instead of fighting for interims

thats right, they are all ducking him, poor fella

[ashley]

If Choc fights and wins the now vacant middleweight title you will all say hes a fake as Sturm is the real champion. If he fights and wins the jnr middle interim title you all will say hes a fake as the cotto v Yuri Foreman winner is the real champion. So who cares who he fights. Hes getting bagged anyway. I think he should move up to cruiserweight and fight a middleweight. Nobody will bag that.

How many aussies will get a real world title shot at the top 4 belts this year? (not including VIC or John who have belts)

Answer is nobody.

The two fights you have mentioned are the BEST fights for choc :deal

How can anybody bag him if he fights these guys :huh

Lets hope he beats the number 1 contender at either weight :good

Everybody wants choc to step up....both these fights are steps up :deal

I'm hoping choc goes 154 so I can :tong to all those that said he would never make it :yep

[ashley]

so target sturm yuri or cotto then instead of fighting for interims

thats right, they are all ducking him, poor fella

Fighting the interim holder will get choc in a position to fight the belt holder :patsch

If I was choc I would not go to Germany to fight Sturm......hope Sturm would go to USA or AUST to fight choc but dont think he will.

At 154 choc needs a good win first before he gets a shot at Cotto V Foreman winner :hi:

[balmain]

Sturm because of a conflict with his management is inactive at the moment. As Choc is not contracted with Top Rank his only chance of fighting for the jnr middle title is to force a mandatory. So the Interim title that you will bag him over would be his only chance to force the fight. The middleweight title title which is vacant is a chance but the WBA has not made a decision yet. So what is our next move?

[pecks]

I see a lot of blokes on here bagging Froch and fair enough he is a dislikaeable enough bloke but don't let these personal feelings of distain cloud your judgement when it comes to predicting a winnerTo be honest mate, I wouldn't have a clue what the guy is like. I just think that his style plays right into Kessler's hands.

[ashley]

To be honest mate, I wouldn't have a clue what the guy is like. I just think that his style plays right into Kessler's hands.

I tend to agree...however I got the last 2 super 6 fights wrong :patsch...the way I'm going Froch ownes Kessler :lol:

[Sox]

I tend to agree...however I got the last 2 super 6 fights wrong :patsch...the way I'm going Froch ownes Kessler :lol:
:lol::lol: You and me both mate! :fire

[ashley]

:lol::lol: You and me both mate! :fire

If Green beats Ward then were all screwed :lol:

[goodnight]

Sturm because of a conflict with his management is inactive at the moment. As Choc is not contracted with Top Rank his only chance of fighting for the jnr middle title is to force a mandatory. So the Interim title that you will bag him over would be his only chance to force the fight. The middleweight title title which is vacant is a chance but the WBA has not made a decision yet. So what is our next move?

not bagging his choice of fighting for the interim, but we've heard it all before. I'll be supporting him,



if it ever happens

[flamengo]

Sturm because of a conflict with his management is inactive at the moment. As Choc is not contracted with Top Rank his only chance of fighting for the jnr middle title is to force a mandatory. So the Interim title that you will bag him over would be his only chance to force the fight. The middleweight title title which is vacant is a chance but the WBA has not made a decision yet. So what is our next move?


Flash, even you would see the trash talk and dribble that comes out of his mouth for publicity. Yes, the publicity works and the fortune is the largest made by any Aussie boxer who remained 95% on home soil. But, just for once, Mundine might place his mouth to less use and actually prove a valid point by staying in a division long enough to collect a GENUINE world title... rather than running from the chance. Interim means nothing and you know it. It's a governing bodies way of stripping more money from the fighters.. nothing more. Claiming another interim title is the way to the 154 belt, but claiming an interim title and moving out of the division to higher ground is the same crap we'd expect.

What would you like us to expect?? The circus shits me, but yes, I'd like to see him pick up some creditable belt and do what most champs would.. DEFEND IT. Lets hope your input is more positive than our attitudes towards him. I'd prefer to have seen Mordey Promote him, rather than that pile of filth Nassar. Atleast Mordey had a sense of shame.

[ashley]

not bagging his choice of fighting for the interim, but we've heard it all before. I'll be supporting him......

Cool....I bet that feels better to get that off your chest :yep

Now all you need to do is buy a Holden and your life will be better all round :hey

[ashley]

Flash, even you would see the trash talk and dribble that comes out of his mouth for publicity. Yes, the publicity works and the fortune is the largest made by any Aussie boxer who remained 95% on home soil. But, just for once, Mundine might place his mouth to less use and actually prove a valid point by staying in a division long enough to collect a GENUINE world title... rather than running from the chance. Interim means nothing and you know it. It's a governing bodies way of stripping more money from the fighters.. nothing more. Claiming another interim title is the way to the 154 belt, but claiming an interim title and moving out of the division to higher ground is the same crap we'd expect.

What would you like us to expect?? The circus shits me, but yes, I'd like to see him pick up some creditable belt and do what most champs would.. DEFEND IT. Lets hope your input is more positive than our attitudes towards him. I'd prefer to have seen Mordey Promote him, rather than that pile of filth Nassar. Atleast Mordey had a sense of shame.

Tend to agree with most of this FLAMER however no comment on the promoter issue :bart

[flamengo]

Tend to agree with most of this FLAMER however no comment on the promoter issue :bart

Stop chasing free tickets.. lol

[balmain]

Goodnight if it doesnt happen I am wasting my time there also. If he wasnt stepping up they would never had contacted me in the first place. He pays me out of his own pocket so unless he is going to step up he could just keep doing what he has been doing and save his money. I have not always agreed on who he fights just like everybody but I am confident hes making a positive move now.

[balmain]

Flamengo please believe I understand what you are saying. I havent always seen eye to eye with my fellow muslim brother but I know he he has made Choc plenty of money. He tried his heart out to get Choc the Pavlik fight next month but HBO took another option. Khoder has something in the pipeline at the moment that will give Choc the opportunity to finally fight in America. So lets wait and see first.

[ashley]

Flamengo please believe I understand what you are saying. I havent always seen eye to eye with my fellow muslim brother but I know he he has made Choc plenty of money. He tried his heart out to get Choc the Pavlik fight next month but HBO took another option. Khoder has something in the pipeline at the moment that will give Choc the opportunity to finally fight in America. So lets wait and see first.

Sounds great...I dont know Khoder but nobody can argue what hes done for choc from day 1 :deal

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Goodnight if it doesnt happen I am wasting my time there also. If he wasnt stepping up they would never had contacted me in the first place. He pays me out of his own pocket so unless he is going to step up he could just keep doing what he has been doing and save his money. I have not always agreed on who he fights just like everybody but I am confident hes making a positive move now.

Hope time proves you correct Flash, and if it does, they should have got you on-board sooner.

[Sox]

Now all you need to do is buy a Holden and your life will be better all round :hey
:pissWash your mouth out with soap....

[balmain]

I have always been there for him but always no closer than the phone because I was not wanted there by a certain fraction. The reason I am there is because Choc told everyone he was bringing me in and that was his decision. Everything has worked out really well as everybody was happy after the fight so hopefully we can now move into deeper water together. Now you know why I always go to bat for him.

[Sox]

Flamengo please believe I understand what you are saying. I havent always seen eye to eye with my fellow muslim brother but I know he he has made Choc plenty of money. He tried his heart out to get Choc the Pavlik fight next month but HBO took another option. Khoder has something in the pipeline at the moment that will give Choc the opportunity to finally fight in America. So lets wait and see first.
Just one question in reference to the red text.

If you can understand what Flamengo is saying, and I and many others happen to agree with him, why do you come down on anyone who bags these choices which are being made?

I mean you just said you understand what he's saying, so why do you have a problem with anyone who bags the decisions?

BTW, I sent you a PM yesterday, dunno if you saw it.

[balmain]

Sox I am not a poof but I love the bloke. I will always defend him. Yes Khoder makes decisions that leaves himself open to be bagged but as a manager hes kept him earning for 10 years. Remember if Choc retires a lot of people will be on the rockn roll.

[ashley]

:pissWash your mouth out with soap....

haha...wait until goodnight see it...hes not going to be happy :D

[Sox]

Sox I am not a poof but I love the bloke. I will always defend him. Yes Khoder makes decisions that leaves himself open to be bagged but as a manager hes kept him earning for 10 years. Remember if Choc retires a lot of people will be on the rockn roll.
Fair enough. :good

[JOSEY WALES]

Did they run this by you?, obviously you have a large influence in all big fights and no doubt have the whole fight choreographed. Just say 'I think' instead. Dunce,

Its a boxing forum WANKER Boy , What's your contribution ? Oh i see Just the Insults , Grow up ya little cunt ....I was in school with a little wanker like you who just used to sit on the side lines having a snipe , you really are the creepy little cunt around here kid ( if you really are a youngster that is ) .

[goodnight]

haha...wait until goodnight see it...hes not going to be happy :D

sorry mate, no bites ;). Sold my HT monaro to get the coupe. Both handle like barges, more like a controlled slide :nut