Mitchell Kastidis at Upton, how?!

[wrimc]

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This has just been posted on FW facebook group so looks like the fight is definitely at Upton Park but i just dont see how he is going to fill it?

Im thinking heavy marketing at a push he will get between 8000 - 10 000 but am i right in thinking that the night of champions that mitchell feautred on there were a fair few empty seats and that was a stacked card of ******s current crop. In terms of marketing what angle can Frank use to attract the casual fan with this fight?

[Smudger]

Yeah, the arena only filled when Khan was on. The people behind me came from Wales and had no clue who Mitchell was and thought Prescott was a Brazilian who beat Khan lol. I think the West Ham fans like Mitchell, there's two at work who know fuck all about boxing, but were talking about Mitchell's last fight and the funny KO.

[Lee Mc]

Mitchell will use his "West Ham" supporter idenity to the max...This, along with the amount of Aussies in London will ensure a huge crowd of around 20-25,000...

[NoHomeJerome]

at the risk of sounding dumb, what if it is raining?

[chrisfinch]

at the risk of sounding dumb, what if it is raining?

you get wet.......
















But there will be a canopy above the ring that all the lights and sound stuff will hang from, and that'll protect the ring from the rain.

[wrimc]

Are there that many Aussies in London? How many boxers have tried using the look i support this team trick it works to a certain extent but he has to be known for this to work 2 months? is that enough time to get him out in the public eye i dont know both are going to have to do a lot of shouting about themselves

[Grant1]

He's gonna need to stack this undercard.

Cleverly in a Euro.
Britsh Heavyweight title fight.
Enzo Mac vs Norton
Olympians.
Tony Bellew.
Got the Walsh's on there, they bring fans.


Who've I missed?

[Smudger]

Are there that many Aussies in London? How many boxers have tried using the look i support this team trick it works to a certain extent but he has to be known for this to work 2 months? is that enough time to get him out in the public eye i dont know both are going to have to do a lot of shouting about themselves
Wicky 'one of the lads Man City fan pop out to the shops for condoms' Hatton :rofl

I ain't posted here long but that Betty Swollock's hate for Hatton is easy to spot and fucking funny.

[Lee Mc]

Are there that many Aussies in London?

How many boxers have tried using the look i support this team trick it works to a certain extent but he has to be known for this to work 2 months? is that enough time to get him out in the public eye i dont know both are going to have to do a lot of shouting about themselves

1) Shit loads....

2) Ricky Hatton has pathed the way..

3) Yes.

[ishy]

Sky need to hype the fuck out of this thing. Play a bit on the British/Oz thing. Maybe draw a few parallels with Hatton (working class lad, fighting for first world title against Aussie fighter etc). And the West Ham thing as people have said.

[HitmanHatton]

Does anyone think this could be a sign that Khan will definitely be on ITV?

What I mean is, it looks more appealing to SBO having a fight in a football stadium than just a normal arena and he could make more money aswell from staging the fight at Upton Park.

[wrimc]

I think Ricky paved the way but its not a formula easy to replicate in such little time whilst its easy for football fans to pay £20-30 week in week out to watch their team its not as easy converting that to watch one boxing match and that is a sad fact even though most would probably be quite inclined to the idea but boxing just isnt worth £30 for the causual fan atm.
Frank needs to stack the card and pay out for LOADS of promotion and marketing for this his purse bid was $515 000 he is going to lose so much money on this fight he is banking on Mitchell winning then fighting a big US name and making a ton of money on the PPV for that. If not he will have invested an awful lot in Mitchell for no return, have to admit though Frank has a knack for getting just the right fight Tsyzu, Barrera etc

[chrisfinch]

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This has just been posted on FW facebook group so looks like the fight is definitely at Upton Park but i just dont see how he is going to fill it?

Im thinking heavy marketing at a push he will get between 8000 - 10 000 but am i right in thinking that the night of champions that mitchell feautred on there were a fair few empty seats and that was a stacked card of ******s current crop. In terms of marketing what angle can Frank use to attract the casual fan with this fight?

seetickets need fucking shooting. 10% booking fee, a £2.25 transaction fee then P&P. Daylight robbery.

1) Shit loads....

2) Ricky Hatton has pathed the way..

3) Yes.

You've said a lot over the past few days that this fight will sell well and get 25,000 or whatever and I just think you are vastly, vastly overrating the interest in this fight. I hope ****** stacks the undercard with everything he's got and he might stand a chance. I'd take grant's undercard and happily go.

And grant-you missed the Burns v Martinez fight that surely needs to go on this bill.

[LP_1985]

He's gonna need to stack this undercard.

Cleverly in a Euro.
Britsh Heavyweight title fight.
Enzo Mac vs Norton
Olympians.
Tony Bellew.
Got the Walsh's on there, they bring fans.


Who've I missed?

fuck the waslsh brothers. i wont go if there fighting

[wrimc]

Frank is at a turning point here he has some real class in his stable but needs 2-3years for one of the real stars to com through Gavin Degale Ste Smith? And then maybe 1-2 for Clev Bellew Brook to reach challenger level on the world stage Mitchell is all he has in terms of star power. If Froch was in his stable now he would be in that star position whilst the others came through no doubt about it.

[Lee Mc]

seetickets need fucking shooting. 10% booking fee, a £2.25 transaction fee then P&P. Daylight robbery.



You've said a lot over the past few days that this fight will sell well and get 25,000 or whatever and I just think you are vastly, vastly overrating the interest in this fight. I hope ****** stacks the undercard with everything he's got and he might stand a chance. I'd take grant's undercard and happily go.

And grant-you missed the Burns v Martinez fight that surely needs to go on this bill.

Don't get me wrong. Mitchell will have to play the "West Ham" card to the max but it will generate a lot of interest. West Ham's season will be over by then and the possibility exists of rival London firms coming over to take the piss: especially Millwall.

Honestly, this could be huge and Frank ****** knows it but it has to be hyped.

[leforge]

Dont forget this is FA cup final day. Which could have two London teams in the final.

[Grant1]

fuck the waslsh brothers. i wont go if there fighting

Why's that fella?

Only mentioned them because they'll bring decent support.

[LP_1985]

Why's that fella?

Only mentioned them because they'll bring decent support.

cant stand the lil cunts

[LP_1985]

Why's that fella?

Only mentioned them because they'll bring decent support.

other than that good card:thumbsup

[chrisfinch]

Dont forget this is FA cup final day. Which could have two London teams in the final.

Or alternatively, another 50/60,000 extra potential punters in the capital looking for a night out after the cup final.:think

[Grant1]

other than that good card:thumbsup

They'll be on first when we're still in the pub :good

We'll be ok. I'll give Frank a bell now and sort it for you.

[LP_1985]

They'll be on first when we're still in the pub :good

We'll be ok. I'll give Frank a bell now and sort it for you.

:lol:nice 1:good

[doggyland]

Mark Kaylor paved the way years ago.

[Lee Mc]

Mark Kaylor paved the way years ago.

Imagine if he had fought at Upton Park :admin

[pathmanc1986]

i really cant see this happening. im predicting a late change of venue. there isnt the demand for mitchell, katsidis is practically unknown to the casual fan and theres no big ticket seller on the undercard. to my memory by most posters on the british forum bernard dunnes wba superbantam win wasnt a 'real' world title so how is this any different?

explaining to people that juan manuel marquez holds the wbo world lightweight belt, but mitchell will be the wbo champion? judging by the attitude to dunne on here not many would buy into it and affect ticket sales.


****** is in an intersting position. he has always had the 'main fighter' to some extent in the uk since lewis retired but now he doesnt really have anyone which means he is going to push quickly some fighters which in terms of entertainment for us can only be a good thing.


heres a question, if mitchell loses, who will be in your opinion the next frank ****** promoted world title holder?

[HitmanHatton]

i really cant see this happening. im predicting a late change of venue. there isnt the demand for mitchell, katsidis is practically unknown to the casual fan and theres no big ticket seller on the undercard. to my memory by most posters on the british forum bernard dunnes wba superbantam win wasnt a 'real' world title so how is this any different?

explaining to people that juan manuel marquez holds the wbo world lightweight belt, but mitchell will be the wbo champion? judging by the attitude to dunne on here not many would buy into it and affect ticket sales.


****** is in an intersting position. he has always had the 'main fighter' to some extent in the uk since lewis retired but now he doesnt really have anyone which means he is going to push quickly some fighters which in terms of entertainment for us can only be a good thing.


heres a question, if mitchell loses, who will be in your opinion the next frank ****** promoted world title holder?

I think either Nathan Cleverly or Kell Brook.

[wrimc]

he will manouvre somebody somehow he always does he will get a famous boxing name and his prospect will beat him. Kell Brook vs Cotto not a bad shout on that front he will probably push Clev forward fast when he graduates. Either that or Frank might look to make some sort of domestic tournament possibly at Heavyweight? That would produce maybe not a champion but a well known name for the British public to get behind. Possibly expect a fighter to switch stable (Froch?)

[Bodysnatcher]

I know it's different but Haye vs Valuev showed the value of a good marketing campaign.

It'll be harder for Mitchell, not being a heavy, but that's the kind of push they'll need.

[Bodysnatcher]

I think either Nathan Cleverly or Kell Brook.

Yep. I reckon Frank needs to put them both on the bill against good opponents.

[wrimc]

The fight doesnt have the angle of David vs Goliath i mean the boxing ashes Kastidis out for revenge!!! doesnt have much of a ring to it. Also when a casual Brit here heavywieght they go omg mike Tyson ding this guy must be better than him. There is just not the same click with lower wieghts never will be

[GazOC]

The fight doesnt have the angle of David vs Goliath i mean the boxing ashes Kastidis out for revenge!!! doesnt have much of a ring to it. Also when a casual Brit here heavywieght they go omg mike Tyson ding this guy must be better than him. There is just not the same click with lower wieghts never will be


True. I'm going to Haye-Ruiz with 3 non-boxing fan mates. I'd have never convinced them to go if that was middleweight or welterweight fight.

[Lee Mc]

heres a question, if mitchell loses, who will be in your opinion the next frank ****** promoted world title holder?

Alphabet title holder: Gavin (2012)

Significant alphabet title holder: Cleverly (2013)

Ring Title: Cleverly (2015)

[Bodysnatcher]

The fight doesnt have the angle of David vs Goliath i mean the boxing ashes Kastidis out for revenge!!! doesnt have much of a ring to it. Also when a casual Brit here heavywieght they go omg mike Tyson ding this guy must be better than him. There is just not the same click with lower wieghts never will be

You're probably right.

It does smack of desperation that ****** is priming Mitchell as a PPV attraction.

[essexboy]

I might actually go.

[safc1990]

1) Shit loads....

2) Ricky Hatton has pathed the way..

3) Yes.

Jeffries is playing on the fact he supports Sunderland to perfection as well.

[scurlaruntings]

One minute did i read this right. ****** actually thinks he can fill Upton Park stadium?

[thewinfella]

Mitchell will get a great turn out , i will be certainly heading down there , London is a fight city and they will be there in there droans no doubt , 22 - 25'000 imo !!!!!!

[thewinfella]

You're probably right.

It does smack of desperation that ****** is priming Mitchell as a PPV attraction.

Why ???????

[gasman]

Mitchell v Katsidis fight is 10 times better than Khan v Paulie, and it is a Upton Park. Don't think ****** is missing Khan too much now and perhaps it was a good thing for all concerned that Khan is away to the States - the spotlight can now be shone on other good prospects.

[Trenaman]

They can easily fill it. The Aussies love their sport, there will be about 10,000 easily. Plus the West Ham fans, maybe 5,000, then those who know this fight will be a belter another 5,000.

I went to a friendly at Craven Cottage a few years back for Australia v Norway and it was full. Field of dreams if you build it they will come, a stadium is no problem for this fight..

[20a87]

I'll be shocked if they fill the stadium, to be honest I'd rather katsidis won purely because I wanna see more of his fights on tv. To me mitchell isn't someone who can evoke the emotion of wanting him to win like hatton, calzaghe, haye. I think mitchell is more likely going to be a froch-esque character as his fame increases in the sense people will always say khan would beat him.

[Chud]

Does anyone think this could be a sign that Khan will definitely be on ITV?

What I mean is, it looks more appealing to SBO having a fight in a football stadium than just a normal arena and he could make more money aswell from staging the fight at Upton Park.

actually it confirms the exact opposite......this will be the british leg for the Khan-Malinaggi PPV

[Smudger]

Is it just me or are none of the ticket sites working? The ****** link cannot be displayed, the West Ham site makes no mention of the fight and SeeTickets are just rapists. Oh and the location on SeeTickets is 'secret'. FUCK OFF! Why the fuck would I buy tickets for a secret fucking location? Could be the worst venue going and I could buy some shocking seats. GOLLY GOSH!!! AND!!!... The ticket type says 'SEATS'. No mention of upper tier, lower tier, ringside. Just 'SEATS'. Well thankyou for providing seats then. FUCK!

[kosaros]

He's gonna need to stack this undercard.

Cleverly in a Euro.
Britsh Heavyweight title fight.
Enzo Mac vs Norton
Olympians.
Tony Bellew.
Got the Walsh's on there, they bring fans.


Who've I missed?

Danny Williams vs Sam Sexton I think was confirmed for the bill already. So the bill could look something like this:

Mitchell vs Katsidis
Williams vs Sexton
Hall vs Vitu
Cleverly vs Lacy (I'm not joking, could be easy to sell :yep)
Bellew vs McIntosh
Gavin vs Morrison
DeGale vs Dodson

It's going to have to be a very solid undercard to be able to fill Upton Park, that is why I am being optimistic :yep

[HitmanHatton]

actually it confirms the exact opposite......this will be the british leg for the Khan-Malinaggi PPV

Well the story coming out yesterday was that Khan isnt 100% guaranteed to be on SBO.

[king s]

fuck the waslsh brothers. i wont go if there fighting

If the fight goes ahead at upton park they are dead certs to fighting.:deal

[trotter]

Surprised at everyone saying 'it needs to be a good card' - that's pretty irrelevant IMO. The London crowd will either turn out for Mitchell or they won't. 90% wouldn't have a clue about the other lads, except perhaps the Olympians.

[TFFP]

Mitchell only has to turn up at a few West Ham games at half-time between now and then and that'll probably sell a few tickets.

[Mandanda]

Sky will have to play on the fact this could be fight of the year. Play the gladiator music and make it dramatic. Make Katsidis look some sort of beast and show them knocking guys out..there are avenues for this fight to sell well it's up to Sky and Frank to use them wisely.

[scurlaruntings]

Sky will have to play on the fact this could be fight of the year. Play the gladiator music and make it dramatic. Make Katsidis look some sort of beast and show them knocking guys out..there are avenues for this fight to sell well it's up to Sky and Frank to use them wisely.Katsidis is an awesome TV fighter. That guy needs a decent promoter.

[Mandanda]

Katsidis is an awesome TV fighter. That guy needs a decent promoter.
Totally agreed. Golden Boy really messed up with him imo. He's type of guy he will lose some and win some. He's a warrior and brings the heat like a Spartan Warrior does. I'm hoping to go and can't wait. His ring entrance will be good to watch he can work a crowd.

[icemax]

Sky will have to play on the fact this could be fight of the year. Play the gladiator music and make it dramatic. Make Katsidis look some sort of beast and show them knocking guys out..there are avenues for this fight to sell well it's up to Sky and Frank to use them wisely.

To be fair Katsidis should be an easy sell

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"The moment I put on the helmet I don't care if I get carried out" - Michael Katsidis

[Mandanda]

To be fair Katsidis should be an easy sell

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"The moment I put on the helmet I don't care if I get carried out" - Michael Katsidis
:yep that's why i'm split of who i wanna win...he's what boxing should be about.
mix the opening of the first video with the second videos highlights and that type music and i'm sure people will look and think about this fight...people wanna see a fight and there gonna get one.
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[riggers]

I think the fact that this fight is a dead cert war should attract fans. People will be talking about it at work, that will attract people. I think it will get a huge crowd. And the fight will be talked about for ages afterwards.

[scurlaruntings]

Totally agreed. Golden Boy really messed up with him imo. He's type of guy he will lose some and win some. He's a warrior and brings the heat like a Spartan Warrior does. I'm hoping to go and can't wait. His ring entrance will be good to watch he can work a crowd.Katsidis is the new Gatti. With his Greek background and chiselled physique the whole "Spartan" theme goes very well because of his style. This has the potential to be a war. But i doubt Mitchell who does have a decent beard will stand and trade with him.

[Mandanda]

Katsidis is the new Gatti. With his Greek background and chiselled physique the whole "Spartan" theme goes very well because of his style. This has the potential to be a war. But i doubt Mitchell who does have a decent beard will stand and trade with him.
Spot on. What a fight that would be by the way!!!

Yeah i agree i see Mitchell trying to use the ring as much as he can and tie up when Micheal gets close...can he do that for 12 rounds..i'm not so sure.

[icemax]

Yeah i agree i see Mitchell trying to use the ring as much as he can and tie up when Micheal gets close...can he do that for 12 rounds..i'm not so sure.

I think that somewhere along the line Mitchell will get sucked into Katsidis' style of fight...I am expecting a war.

[Mandanda]

I think that somewhere along the line Mitchell will get sucked into Katsidis' style of fight...I am expecting a war.
:yep :good
No way a east end boy on the pitch of his heroes in front of a mad for it crowd is gonna back down if he gets caught or dragged into a war...Kevin is known for liking a tear up and i fear old habits die hard and he will eventually be dragged into Katsidis type fight.

[scurlaruntings]

I think that somewhere along the line Mitchell will get sucked into Katsidis' style of fight...I am expecting a war.
I see this also. I know Mitchell indirectly through a couple of friends. He doesnt live to far from parents and lives on my old stomping ground. He had many gym wars down at the "Heathway" and was known for his gritty style. Theres going to be spots in that fight when he's going to have to get Katsidis respect. I imagine the fight will be much like the Johannsen fight which was also a cracking fight.

[Bulldogs]

From a site here in Oz, quite complimentary about British fans

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[Mandanda]

Cheers for the article.
"I watched his win over Breidis Prescott and he ran like a cat, and Breidis Prescott doesn't punch as hard as me,"

WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[icemax]

"I watched his win over Breidis Prescott and he ran like a cat, and Breidis Prescott doesn't punch as hard as me,"



Thats fighting talk that is :yep

[Beeston Brawler]

Mitchell even said himself on here that Prescott can't punch..... it was after Khan left ****** though - I wonder if there was a bit of horseplay going on :hey

[rusticraver]

West Ham fans will fill it trust me

[Lee Mc]

West Ham fans will fill it trust me

That's what I've been telling everyone but they seem to think I'm a bit mad! :nut :D

[rusticraver]

That's what I've been telling everyone but they seem to think I'm a bit mad! :nut :D

Especially with the season we've had... need something to cheer about

[scurlaruntings]

West Ham fans will fill it trust meTruth. Im not a West Ham fan and il be there! :D:thumbsup

[bronze_bandit]

ill be turning up for this one....that will def be a good weekend for british boxing!!?

[gasman]

This will be a proper stadium event with electric atmosphere, unlike that corporate non-event at the Dallas Cowboy Stadium.

Mitchell is coming out to 'Forever Blowing Bubbles' (I am not a West Ham supporter - but that is a class anthem)

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The fight poster with Mitchell in West Ham scarf and blowing bubbles is already a classic billard.

[royalt0208]

Just had a look on the West Ham forum pages and there seems to be a lot of interest. There won't any problems getting any interest they will just pump this shit up no end on the West Ham pages, programmes, local papers etc. Just expect a shit load of fights between West Ham, Millwall, Chelsea and Spurs fans.

[wrimc]

I feel left out bein a northerner i feel this Mitchell love is a very Southern thing