Degale fighting for inter continental belt on Mitchell undercard SURPRISE SURPRISE!

[wrimc]

Degale will never go near the British title by the looks of things and may go the same way as Khan as ****** looks to move him on at a similar rate to Groves whilst avoiding him. With Groves's sights looking set on all the domestic titles. Degale and Groves must be on a collision course within the next few years.

[Mazallan]

DeGale has faced better opponents than Groves so far. Groves has got a great chance of winning the Commonwealth title against Adamu but I can not see DeGale being too interested of fighting for that right now.

[ishy]

Could be a decent card

Mitchell-Katsidis
Williams-Sexton
Chisora-TBA
Olympians

and maybe Clev? :think

[kosaros]

Could be a decent card

Mitchell-Katsidis
Williams-Sexton
Chisora-TBA
Olympians

and maybe Clev? :think

Hall vs Vitu should be on the card as well :yep

[Beeston Brawler]

The main thing is that he is on the card, even though I'm not all that fussed for him.

I/C titles only really piss me off when they are being used to take shortcuts - I don't see him going for this title as a shortcut around anything. ****** won't want to stick him in with Paul Smith right now....

[ishy]

Hall vs Vitu should be on the card as well :yep

Ah yes! Frank won the purse bids for that.

[kosaros]

Ah yes! Frank won the purse bids for that.

It's for the lesser Euro title isn't it? :think

Still, I had a little watch of Vitu the other day and he seems to be a come-forward fighter so it should be a good fight while it lasts :yep

[ishy]

Yep, it's for the EU title. Let's hope it is a good scrap!

[ontheup]

Ah yes! Frank won the purse bids for that.

Hall is not a bad fighter but does not have the tools to go further than European level, he does punch hard but that is not enough on the world stage.

[cheekyvid]

FFS, i dont mind if he, jeffries, groves dont fight till world level but if he avoids british route then ill lose a fair bit of respect. i get the feeling degale is in boxing to make money only, and not so fussed about a legacy. thats his choice and his prerogative but not the way i'd like to see him do it. i think he's doing alright, still slaps a bit too much but only because hes been an amateur so long

[ashedward]

DeGale has faced better opponents than Groves so far. Groves has got a great chance of winning the Commonwealth title against Adamu but I can not see DeGale being too interested of fighting for that right now.

I have to disagree with that,Paul Samuals is more dangerous then anyone Degale has fought.
Degale would of been better having an 8 rounder against King, then the 4 round slapping which happened.I do agree with you that Groves has a great chance against Adamu.

[slip&counter]

I'm just glad kids like Degale and Andrade have moved up in rounds.

I remember thinking the definition of suicide is to actually accept a 4 round fight against these young studs who have nothing to fear in getting gassed. So you are basically fighting a 6'1" destroyer that throws every punch in the book at you and has an Olympian pedigree to boot. Get these kids up to 8 rounds before they kill someone. Lol

[GazOC]

The good ams should turn pro in 6 rounders IMHO Slip.

[boxingprospects]

Yep, it's for the EU title. Let's hope it is a good scrap!

Interview with Matthew Hall talking about going for that title...

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Big fan, hope he does it and gets things back on track. He's better than he showed against Small.

[HitmanHatton]

FFS, i dont mind if he, jeffries, groves dont fight till world level but if he avoids british route then ill lose a fair bit of respect. i get the feeling degale is in boxing to make money only, and not so fussed about a legacy. thats his choice and his prerogative but not the way i'd like to see him do it. i think he's doing alright, still slaps a bit too much but only because hes been an amateur so long

I have never seen a problem when boxers go that way in their careers, legacy is only for pub talk and doesnt buy you nice things.

[avidlemon]

Interview with Matthew Hall talking about going for that title...

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Big fan, hope he does it and gets things back on track. He's better than he showed against Small.

far better than what he showed against hall. I was hoping he was going to fucking batter him tbh, was gutted when he got stopped.

[cheekyvid]

I have never seen a problem when boxers go that way in their careers, legacy is only for pub talk and doesnt buy you nice things.

nice things wont be there when you're dead.
your legacy and record will be.

[HitmanHatton]

nice things wont be there when you're dead.
your legacy and record will be.

Your not going to hear people saying this, that and other about you when your dead, if I was an ATG, while I was alive, I would rather have a nice mansion and a fleet of cars, then someone saying down pub I am the best.

[slip&counter]

The good ams should turn pro in 6 rounders IMHO Slip.

Agreed. I've been very critical of Teddy Atlas lately, but this is something he's been banging on about for a while and he's spot on. There is no reason why fighters with such international experience, facing all sorts of different styles in the Ams should be knocking over ham n egg opponents in 4 rounders for so long, it does them no good IMO. Start them with 6 rounders like you said, it kinda brings an authomatic step up in comp as well.

[cheekyvid]

Your not going to hear people saying this, that and other about you when your dead, if I was an ATG, while I was alive, I would rather have a nice mansion and a fleet of cars, then someone saying down pub I am the best.

well in this day and age, if you do well enough to become an ATG, then the rest should follow quite naturally so you'll have both. a great quality of life and respect from all. there are plenty of more important things in life than money

[HitmanHatton]

well in this day and age, if you do well enough to become an ATG, then the rest should follow quite naturally so you'll have both. a great quality of life and respect from all. there are plenty of more important things in life than money

My point was though IMO, if I had to choose between the two, I would rather have a 10s of millions in bank than a good legacy, might sound shallow but its my opinion lol.

[GazOC]

My point was though IMO, if I had to choose between the two, I would rather have a 10s of millions in bank than a good legacy, might sound shallow but its my opinion lol.

Plenty of old time champs have great legacies but spent the last 20-30 years of their lives broke and alone. Still happens these days.

[LP_1985]

if ur good enough to cement a great legacy the cash should already be there

[achillesthegreat]

Minor belts should be binned, they are killing boxing.

Has anyone seen Woodya's video of Kelly Brook and the newsreader loving up his intercontinental piece of SHIT.

[royalt0208]

Minor belts should be binned, they are killing boxing.

Has anyone seen Woodya's video of Kelly Brook and the newsreader loving up his intercontinental piece of SHIT.

:deal

They are one of my pet hates in Boxing, I'm huge Boxing fan and even I do not know what the fuck they are meant to be other then a legal way to pay the sanctioning bodies to rank a fighter highly for no reason (hence Bienias being something like #5 despite being utter cack and never doing anything of any note).
Why can't they just do an 8 rounder with a decent step up opponent rather then this bs.

[HitmanHatton]

Minor belts should be binned, they are killing boxing.

Has anyone seen Woodya's video of Kelly Brook and the newsreader loving up his intercontinental piece of SHIT.

To be fair to her in the video, she did say she preferred the Londsdale belt, she said it looked far more tasteful.

[Chud]

hopefully with him going 10 rounds vs a better opponent means HBO or Showtime will be keen to showcase him. One of them picks this card up and HBO did do the likes of Khan and Mares quite early on.

[slip&counter]

Some brillient youngsters coming through, which is good to see. I like the look of this kid Cayo, only seen him a few times, the last time Cayo beat a decent blue collar fighter in Diaz. I know Diaz is nothing special at this stage; but all in all, it was very good outing from a young upstart to school a vet the way Cayo did. You can tell that Cayo has watched like 1,000 hours of footage on Sweet Pea (although he reminds me alot of Roy Jones without the freak athleticism but more fundamentals) I love when a young fighter shows signs of studying the great ones and brings it to the ring especially when they're just "coasting" after round 6 and trying to work on different things.

[slip&counter]

Speaking of prospects, any news on Kirkland?

I can't tell you how long I've waited for the second coming of G Man. In my heart I was hoping that Kirkland would've been the southpaw version of pure, unadulterated violence layed down by Gerald. But I just don't see angles, boxing IQ, punch variance, punch variety and about 10 other intangibles that has me believing Kirkland will be anything more than a left H Lacy.

There's no doubt Wolfe has Kirkland transformed into a machine but this aint UFC or WWE. His skills need some serious work and there's not enough time to post all his "unsweet" habits. I heard where Wolfe drives a truck backwards for 3 miles with a bag attached to the tailgate, and guy has to jog 2 miles backwards and punch that bag nonstop, for two f***ing miles! Hardcore no doubt.

Enough with this james Kirkland talk though, maybe when he comes out a few more 'opponents' will hit the canvas like a jackson pollock lol but with his limitations there then comes a time when his bombs will have a second class postage stamp on them.

[Mandanda]

Speaking of prospects, any news on Kirkland?

I can't tell you how long I've waited for the second coming of G Man. In my heart I was hoping that Kirkland would've been the southpaw version of pure, unadulterated violence layed down by Gerald. But I just don't see angles, boxing IQ, punch variance, punch variety and about 10 other intangibles that has me believing Kirkland will be anything more than a left H Lacy.

There's no doubt Wolfe has Kirkland transformed into a machine but this aint UFC or WWE. His skills need some serious work and there's not enough space time to post all his "unsweet" habits. I heard where Wolfe drives a truck backwards for 3 miles with a bag attached to the tailgate, and guy has to jog 2 miles backwards and punch that bag nonstop, for two f***ing miles! Hardcore no doubt.

Enough with this james Kirkland talk though, maybe when he comes out a few more 'opponents' will hit the canvas like a jackson pollock lol but with his limitations there then comes a time when his bombs will have a second class postage stamp on them.
Yeah the bag thing is true.

He's a beast but as you say he doesn't have the IQ. I think he's a bit simple and has noticed he wins by knockout so thinks that's problem solved. His training seems purely conditioning and explosive based.

Boxer's need to evolve not only physically but mentally and there skills cannot be left to rot. He's one hell of a fighter with the ability he's already got with skills he could of been or still could be something close to a poor man's G-Man.

Ann's turned to doing exhibition bouts while he's inside so she can keep up payments on the gym.

around 5.50 mark you see him on bag with truck moving forward.
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[slip&counter]

Minor belts should be binned, they are killing boxing.

Boxing is in my blood and I'll never stray from this beautiful sport, but how many times have we seen this business take 2 steps forward then immediately take 3 steps back with the corrupt politics, international belt this and interim belt that...I always said that getting away from 15 round fights hurt big showdowns because it allowed for all these smoke and mirrors like catch weights and no mandatory opponents. Fighters like Winky get lost in no true division. If Boom Boom didn't kill Kim, we may still have 15 round fights. Not to get off topic, but I always thought they should have kept it to 15 but extended the breaks in- between rounds.

I'm going to sound like a nerd but I actually did a paper in HS on 60 seconds in between rounds. If a fighter gets rocked at the end of a round but survives the bell, 60 secs is enough time for the brain to rebalance on its stem. But it still is short enough to give the finisher enough time to air him out in the following round and go for the KO/TKO. Anything longer than 1 minute, like 90 secs, would give unfair advantage to the fighter, who got rocked, to be fresh again. it's difficult to get the balance right but a longer rest period would not only be good for fighters but it would also make the sport more appealing to TV companies as they would be able to make money from longer ads. it would then bring the ABC's, NBC's and CBS' back into the sport in America and more appealing for networks over here.

[Flea Man]

I have never seen a problem when boxers go that way in their careers, legacy is only for pub talk and doesnt buy you nice things.

Doesn't make great fighters though does it?